Dear Sheri, You said: "It appears that Nancy, Sherrod's daughter, was born in VA in All siblings born prior to Nancy were born in VA, and the siblings born after Nancy were born in TN." Not necesarily. Some researchers list my third great grandmother Jane Mayes Ivy's birthplace as Virginia. The 1850 census says she was born Virginia. The 1860 census has the irritating feature of only listing the birthplace of the HOH which I am sure most of you already know. <grin> I actually once sent Selena DuLac a long and (and perhaps boring <grin>) exposition on the fact that later census information (both for her and her surviving children on the 1870 Grianger County census and for the children on the 1880 Hamblen county census) list Tennessee as Jane's birthplace. However, in once again plowing through the 1900 census about a year ago I noticed that Manson Ivy's census entry listed his mother's birthplace as Virginia. William Manson Ivy lived long enough to have a Tennessee death certificate. I probably should order a copy of this document OTOH I seriously doubt that the information given by some "informant" about the birthplace of the deceased's mother 125 years after she was born could be regarded as definitive. <smile> William Manson Ivy's entry in the Weifaring index BTW says that Benjamin Ivy was born in Virginia and Jenny Mayes was born in Tennessee. (Benjamin Ivy was born in North Carolina so I could say that perhaps the entry was in error. However, after some experiences in which I thought the Weifaring index might be wrong and hoping to find better information on the actual death certificate and then discovering the actual certificate did list the same information as Weifaring's I wouldn't make a bet on this. <smile>) The earliest information listing Sherrod Mayes in East Tennessee dates from about 1795 so I don't think one can say for a certainty where Jenny Ivy was born. The older children including Nancy are believed to have been born in Henry County, Virginia since that was where Sherrod and Elizabeth were living at the time. Priscilla "Ciller" and Jonathon's birthplaces are usually listed as Tennessee (Sherrod is definitely known to have been in East Tennessee at the time when Priscilla would have been born.) Anyway my own records presently indicate that I am not sure where Jane Mayes Ivy is born. Gail > > Information I have states that John and Nancy married in 1805. This would have made Nancy about 17 years old and John 31 years old. John seems to have been married before since his son William looks to have been born in the 1801 area. There may have been other children, but I don't know yet. > > It would appear that Sherrod's family came to TN from VA after 1788 but before 1792 and most likely a young daughter would stay with the family, not remain in VA. Does anyone know where the marriage between John and Nancy may have occured? Also would anyone know where any of the children born by John and Nancy would have been born? I know most ended up in Grainger Co., TN to marry and die. > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sheri P. Kelly [email protected] ' Genealogy is Perpetual' > > VA, NC, TN, & KY: COFFEY-COLLINS-GREEN-HICKS-JONES-JORDAN-PERRY-RUSSELL. > > SC & AL: McCOOL-MILLS-McCOOL-SEGREST-THRASHER-WOOD > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Does anyone have a Virginia county name where Sherrod Mayes and others of the family name are found before moving to TN? Would appreciate any help along this line. Perhaps I have missed it, not thinking it might apply to me! Thanks Eleanor

List: It appears that Nancy, Sherrod's daughter, was born in VA in 1788. At this time I do not know yet where John was born but he appears to have been born about 1774. All siblings born prior to Nancy were born in VA, and the siblings born after Nancy were born in TN. Information I have states that John and Nancy married in 1805. This would have made Nancy about 17 years old and John 31 years old. John seems to have been married before since his son William looks to have been born in the 1801 area. There may have been other children, but I don't know yet. It would appear that Sherrod's family came to TN from VA after 1788 but before 1792 and most likely a young daughter would stay with the family, not remain in VA. Does anyone know where the marriage between John and Nancy may have occured? Also would anyone know where any of the children born by John and Nancy would have been born? I know most ended up in Grainger Co., TN to marry and die. Thanks, Sheri P. Kelly [email protected] ' Genealogy is Perpetual' VA, NC, TN, & KY: COFFEY-COLLINS-GREEN-HICKS-JONES-JORDAN-PERRY-RUSSELL. SC & AL: McCOOL-MILLS-McCOOL-SEGREST-THRASHER-WOOD --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more

Tracy, The full marriage bond date: George McCann and Elizabeth Hayes marriage bond dated 21 Aug 1888. I found the abstract of Mary (Whitt) McCann's death certificate. She died after the 1920 census in which she appears with her son-in-law and daughter George Samuel Whitt and Marthy. McCann, Mary, age 92, born Virginia, father Seth Whitt, born VA, mother Sinda Herald, born TN, died 1920, certificate #325. However, the death certificate of her brother Robert Whitt who married Sarah Cameron is abstracted as: Whitt, Robert, age 79, born Grainger Co., father Syath(?) Whitt, born VA, mother Cinda Overland, born VA, died 1922, certificate #80. 1850 Census, Tennessee, Grainger Co., District No. 4, sheet 24B, lines 11-13, dwelling 339 (3 on that page), family 351 (3 on that page): Seth Whitt, 57, m, Virginia Lucindy ", 44, f, " Martha ", 14, f, " Robt. ", 11, m, " Seth Whitt was a head of household in the 1830 and 1840 Halifax Co., Virginia censuses. Perhaps that is where the McCanns were from also. I did not find Andrew McCann in Sistler's 1850 Tennessee Census Index. Nor did I find a marriage record for Andrew McCann and Mary Whitt in Grainger Co. It seems likely that they married in Virginia before coming to Tennessee. Ross Cameron >>> [email protected] 03/31/03 08:23PM >>> Ross and Tina, Thank you for the information on the McCann family. It looks to be the right one. I believe that the John C McCann is my husband's grandfather. Without the kindness of volunteers it would make finding the leads to research almost impossible. Thanks Again, Tracy McCann

""""List, I see from my post that my questions and responses to Gail may not have come out clearly. Funny, it looked good on my computer while I typed it. I am indicating my responses and questions so that it will be easier to determine my writings. I am posting quotes on the areas of my responses and questions.""""Sheri"""" "Sheri P. Kelly" <[email protected]> wrote: """"Gail, I appreciate you taking the time to email me. I agree that all correspondence (within reason) should flow through the list because surely there will be one small clue which could help another researcher on a totally different ancestor."""" """"Some where I have a small list of families who left Grainger Co., TN and headed to Trigg Co., KY-going through Stewart Co., TN. I have found Mays (all spellings) records in Stewart Co., TN which happens to be just one step from Trigg Co., KY. This list of families were Joyce, Solomon, Meredith, Litchfield, and Flora. They left in a wagon train of 6 wagons from Grainger about 1850."""" """"I also went on FamilySearch.net and have found there are several publications from early Mays descendants as well as a Joyce tome which could have some important clues. These books may be available for inter-library loan, but I do not know. I will try to answer some of your questions below. I do not have as much at my fingertips as I do in my mind and so I will answer only those things I know as a fact."""" Gail Roorda wrote: Dear Sheri Kelly, In a letter to the list dated March 3 You said: "Thank You, Gail. Would you or anyone on this list have any dates on Big John's children?" I was going to reply to this that I know who the children would be, but have no listing as to their ages. As I said I do not have that large a database and I consider it primarily a researching tool and it just includes the families I am working on especially if good information exists elsewhere. That is why I just keep referring you to other researcher's websites. """"I do not mind being refered to other areas and sites. As I said above, sometimes there is one little clue which can turn a search into a more productive direction."""" However, inspired by your questions my database is increasing since I am pulling files and entering data. Linking these people up requires a little careful thought and work as anyone who does research in this county will understand (we have all noticed that these people lend a whole new meaning to the term "collateral kin".) """"(I am kin to myself I think.)"""" Yesterday I accordingly I opened my 1850 census CD and printed off the households of Jane May Mayes, Frederick Mayes (the older Frederick), Marcus Daniel, John Oliver, Edward Hodge (Pheby was of course dead by 1850 and Edward was married to his second wife Orlena). I also printed out the ancestry index entries for "Big" John's children who were living in Trigg County Kentucky so I can look these up (if I ever find the time.) """"I need to find my papers to see who lived where. However Frederick (son of Big John) did move to, and live in Trigg Co., KY. Of course he would have been a young child were his full siblings."""" However, I find I have a question for you. Today I decided to look at the Kentucky Vital records index to see if any of Big John's children lived long enough to have a death certificate (I thought it unlikely.) I did not find Thomas or David or Wm Mayes. However, when I did a search on Mays I found a "Fredink Mays". Actually I thought that Frederick s/o Jane May and Big John remained in the Grinager/Hamblen County area and that I had seen him on later censuses. """"Without doing additional research, I can tell you there was also a Frederick May who married Elizabeth, Big John's daughter and they may have remained in Grainger Co., TN or a surround area. Also I believe there was yet another Frederick May in the area, perhaps a son of Peter May. I have not followed up on either one of these. Actually I though perhaps Peter could be a sibling of Big John and this would make Elizabeth the first cousin of said Frederick. First cousins married often as you know. Small gene pool."""" However, "Fredink" is the right age to be Frederick and i wonder if Frederick moved to Trigg County like his half brothers. I am hoping you can enlighten me. Bet everyone is wondering why I am posting this to the list rather than writing to Sheri personally. Well, since everyone in the county is "connected" I am wondering whether anyone has further information on what became of the Marcus Daniels, John Olivers, Frederick May husband of Big John's daughter Elizabeth and if anyone knows which of the Johns listed on the 1850 Grainger County census is Big John and Nancy's son. BTW I was looking at the infromation on GenForum again, and I noticed that Larry Hodge (I must have seen this before, but it didn't register) believes that Big John was married before he married Nancy. This would, of course, mean that Big John was married three times. Sheri, (or anyone?? ) do you have any further information on this?? """"I agree with Larry and think that at least William was the son of an earlier marriage of Big John. The gentleman I correspond with thought that Elizabeth may be from another marriage as well, but having no dates of birth or death on the majority of the kids """": """"Greenberry b c 1825, David b c 1826, Samuel b c 1838, Thomas b before 05/01/1849 & died 1852, {I just realized the this young Thomas was most probably a son of Big John and Jane based only on the mention of him being a minor heir in 1849. All the others with the exception of William and Samuel, are married by Big John's death.} Big John married Jane May in 1840.) then Mary b c 1842, Rhoda b c 1845, Frederick b c 1847 & d 1926, and Amanda b c 1849 is all I have.)"""" """"I have read where an Alexander McConnel received money for part of the share for William Mayes, one of the heirs of Big John, and who was the Lafferty guy who also received money on behalf of William Mayes? """" """"Also regarding the Levi Satterfield who was 'minding' the eleven slaves in the estate inventory of Nancy Mayes, he was born about 1787 and his spouse was Martha Mayes, daughter of Elizabeth Mayes (Sherrod) and John McCarty. I do not know the connection but Levi was a witness to Mary Edwards will and had some dealings with the selling some property directly by Mary Edward's property to Balsar Shirley. Thomas Dyer, Noah Jarnagin, and Marvel Weekly were also mentioned in the deed document. It seems that a daughter of Sterling Mayes and a daughter of Johnson Mayes married Edwards men. I do not know if there is any connection to Mary Edwards."""" """"I also have found a cemetery record for a William Mayes, born 10/31/1776 and died or buried 11/18/1861 in Sumner Co., TN. Thomas Mayes was born about 1774, as was Big John. Surely somewhere there is a link or clue to the relationship of the VA Mayes who ended up in TN. I also researched Jordans for quite sometime and they've done the same thing, from VA to TN to KY, or as will everyone else, one branch always seemed to pass through NC on their way to GA and AL. My Coffey lines are NC to TN and then some branched off to KY. Plenty to research."""" """"If anyone has any help to offer or suggestions to make, please do."""" Sheri P. Kelly [email protected] ' Genealogy is Perpetual' VA, NC, TN, & KY: COFFEY-COLLINS-GREEN-HICKS-JONES-JORDAN-PERRY-RUSSELL. SC & AL: McCOOL-MILLS-McCOOL-SEGREST-THRASHER-WOOD --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more

Tina: Thanks. Francis was my father's aunt. Horace was Francis's son. Grover was my father's half-brother. Neal was my father's brother. Nancy was my grandmother. My father was married living in Hamblen Co TN. Don't know who this Oscar is, My Waller info doesn't have him. Guess the 1920 census would show him single with parents. Neal Waller's wife was a Mallicoat. Her mother was Cynthia ACUFF, dau of Simeon ACUFF. In my ACUFF info I don't find a Clarence ACUFF b ca 1920. Thanks again, I appreciate your help.--Bill R&T_Cooke wrote: > > Hey Bill,I told you that I would send you the info when I got the book,well here it is- > Waller-1930-Grainger Co.TN > > Francis Waller 70-widow > Hugh 39-married > Dess 35-daughter in law > > Horace Waller 45 > Betie 39 > > Grover Waller 45 > Mary 39 > Gladys 20 > Sophia 17 > William R. 14 > Katy C. 11 > > Oscar Waller 29 > Vara 21 > Minnie R. 1 > > Neal Waller 62 > Lula 54 > Vallen 34-son > Clarence Acuff 10-nephew > > Nancy Waller 60-widow > Mack 28 > Carson 22 > Lonnie 20-daughter > Tina Lephew Cooke > Union Co.TN > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected]

1930 Ian McCann 24 Susan 21 Earl K. 2 1/12 next door Pless S. McCann 63 Renetta 57 Kermit 19 Dena 15 James McCann 54 Rosa N. 48 Claude J. 26 Etheridge D. 19 Mattie L. 18 Ethel M. 7 They were the only households of that surname. Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] McCann's in Grainger > Ross and Tina, > Thank you for the information on the McCann family. It looks to be the right > one. I believe that the John C McCann is my husband's grandfather. Without > the kindness of volunteers it would make finding the leads to research almost > impossible. > Thanks Again, > Tracy McCann > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Ross and Tina, Thank you for the information on the McCann family. It looks to be the right one. I believe that the John C McCann is my husband's grandfather. Without the kindness of volunteers it would make finding the leads to research almost impossible. Thanks Again, Tracy McCann

Gail, I appreciate you taking the time to email me. I agree that all correspondence (within reason) should flow through the list because surely there will be one small clue which could help another researcher on a totally different ancestor. Some where I have a small list of families who left Grainger Co., TN and headed to Trigg Co., KY-going through Stewart Co., TN. I have found Mays (all spellings) records in Stewart Co., TN which happens to be just one step from Trigg Co., KY. This list of families were Joyce, Solomon, Meredith, Litchfield, and Flora. They left in a wagon train of 6 wagons from Grainger about 1850. I also went on FamilySearch.net and have found there are several publications from early Mays descendants as well as a Joyce tome which could have some important clues. These books may be available for inter-library loan, but I do not know. I will try to answer some of your questions below. I do not have as much at my fingertips as I do in my mind and so I will answer only those things I know as a fact. Gail Roorda <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Sheri Kelly, In a letter to the list dated March 3 You said: "Thank You, Gail. Would you or anyone on this list have any dates on Big John's children?" I was going to reply to this that I know who the children would be, but have no listing as to their ages. As I said I do not have that large a database and I consider it primarily a researching tool and it just includes the families I am working on especially if good information exists elsewhere. That is why I just keep referring you to other researcher's websites. I do not mind being refered to other areas and sites. As I said above, sometimes there is one little clue which can turn a search into a more productive direction. However, inspired by your questions my database is increasing since I am pulling files and entering data. Linking these people up requires a little careful thought and work as anyone who does research in this county will understand (we have all noticed that these people lend a whole new meaning to the term "collateral kin".) (I am kin to myself I think.) Yesterday I accordingly I opened my 1850 census CD and printed off the households of Jane May Mayes, Frederick Mayes (the older Frederick), Marcus Daniel, John Oliver, Edward Hodge (Pheby was of course dead by 1850 and Edward was married to his second wife Orlena). I also printed out the ancestry index entries for "Big" John's children who were living in Trigg County Kentucky so I can look these up (if I ever find the time.) I need to find my papers to see who lived where. However Frederick (son of Big John) did move to, and live in Trigg Co., KY. Of course he would have been a young child were his full siblings. However, I find I have a question for you. Today I decided to look at the Kentucky Vital records index to see if any of Big John's children lived long enough to have a death certificate (I thought it unlikely.) I did not find Thomas or David or Wm Mayes. However, when I did a search on Mays I found a "Fredink Mays". Actually I thought that Frederick s/o Jane May and Big John remained in the Grinager/Hamblen County area and that I had seen him on later censuses. Without doing additional research, I can tell you there was also a Frederick May who married Elizabeth, Big John's daughter and they may have remained in Grainger Co., TN or a surround area. Also I believe there was yet another Frederick May in the area, perhaps a son of Peter May. I have not followed up on either one of these. Actually I though perhaps Peter could be a sibling of Big John and this would make Elizabeth the first cousin of said Frederick. First cousins married often as you know. Small gene pool. However, "Fredink" is the right age to be Frederick and i wonder if Frederick moved to Trigg County like his half brothers. I am hoping you can enlighten me. Bet everyone is wondering why I am posting this to the list rather than writing to Sheri personally. Well, since everyone in the county is "connected" I am wondering whether anyone has further information on what became of the Marcus Daniels, John Olivers, Frederick May husband of Big John's daughter Elizabeth and if anyone knows which of the Johns listed on the 1850 Grainger County census is Big John and Nancy's son. BTW I was looking at the infromation on GenForum again, and I noticed that Larry Hodge (I must have seen this before, but it didn't register) believes that Big John was married before he married Nancy. This would, of course, mean that Big John was married three times. Sheri, (or anyone?? ) do you have any further information on this?? I agree with Larry and think that at least William was the son of an earlier marriage of Big John. The gentleman I correspond with thought that Elizabeth may be from another marriage as well, but having no dates of birth or death on the majority of the kids (Greenberry b c 1825, David b c 1826, Samuel b c 1838, Thomas b before 05/01/1849 & died 1852, {I just realized the this young Thomas was most probably a son of Big John and Jane based only on the mention of him being a minor heir in 1849. All the others with the exception of William and Samuel, are married by Big John's death.} Big John married Jane May in 1840.) then Mary b c 1842, Rhoda b c 1845, Frederick b c 1847 & d 1926, and Amanda b c 1849 is all I have.) I have read where an Alexander McConnel received money for part of the share for William Mayes, one of the heirs of Big John, and who was the Lafferty guy who also received money on behalf of William Mayes? Also regarding the Levi Satterfield who was 'minding' the eleven slaves in the estate inventory of Nancy Mayes, he was born about 1787 and his spouse was Martha Mayes, daughter of Elizabeth Mayes (Sherrod) and John McCarty. I do not know the connection but Levi was a witness to Mary Edwards will and had some dealings with the selling some property directly by Mary Edward's property to Balsar Shirley. Thomas Dyer, Noah Jarnagin, and Marvel Weekly were also mentioned in the deed document. It seems that a daughter of Sterling Mayes and a daughter of Johnson Mayes married Edwards men. I do not know if there is any connection to Mary Edwards. I also have found a cemetery record for a William Mayes, born 10/31/1776 and died or buried 11/18/1861 in Sumner Co., TN. Thomas Mayes was born about 1774, as was Big John. Surely somewhere there is a link or clue to the relationship of the VA Mayes who ended up in TN. I also researched Jordans for quite sometime and they've done the same thing, from VA to TN to KY, or as will everyone else, one branch always seemed to pass through NC on their way to GA and AL. My Coffey lines are NC to TN and then some branched off to KY. Plenty to research. If anyone has any help to offer or suggestions to make, please do. Sheri P. Kelly [email protected] ' Genealogy is Perpetual' VA, NC, TN, & KY: COFFEY-COLLINS-GREEN-HICKS-JONES-JORDAN-PERRY-RUSSELL. SC & AL: McCOOL-MILLS-McCOOL-SEGREST-THRASHER-WOOD --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more

Hey Bill,I told you that I would send you the info when I got the book,well here it is- Waller-1930-Grainger Co.TN Francis Waller 70-widow Hugh 39-married Dess 35-daughter in law Horace Waller 45 Betie 39 Grover Waller 45 Mary 39 Gladys 20 Sophia 17 William R. 14 Katy C. 11 Oscar Waller 29 Vara 21 Minnie R. 1 Neal Waller 62 Lula 54 Vallen 34-son Clarence Acuff 10-nephew Nancy Waller 60-widow Mack 28 Carson 22 Lonnie 20-daughter Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN

I just bought the 1930 census of Grainger and was starting to go through it. She lived alone so I can't go by any other household members. I looked in the 1920 and that surname was not there. The surnames listed before her was Greer and the one after hers was McMillian. It's puzzling to me. Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] 1930 Census Question > Tina, > > Where did you find this name...I LQQKed on ancestry.com and I didn't see it > anywhere in the USA. I typed in Gintigan. There are 41 ELIZA JENNINGS in the > USA. > > > Milly WARD Piros > <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/millyella/listofpages.html">A List of All My Pages</A> > http://www.geocities.com/millyella/listofpages.html > > My mind is like lightning, one brilliant flash and Pooofffffffffff It's gone < > G> > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Tina, Where did you find this name...I LQQKed on ancestry.com and I didn't see it anywhere in the USA. I typed in Gintigan. There are 41 ELIZA JENNINGS in the USA. Milly WARD Piros <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/millyella/listofpages.html">A List of All My Pages</A> http://www.geocities.com/millyella/listofpages.html My mind is like lightning, one brilliant flash and Pooofffffffffff It's gone < G>

Dear Sheri Kelly, In a letter to the list dated March 3 You said: "Thank You, Gail. Would you or anyone on this list have any dates on Big John's children?" I was going to reply to this that I know who the children would be, but have no listing as to their ages. <teehee> As I said I do not have that large a database and I consider it primarily a researching tool and it just includes the families I am working on especially if good information exists elsewhere. That is why I just keep referring you to other researcher's websites. <grin> However, inspired by your questions my database is increasing since I am pulling files and entering data. Linking these people up requires a little careful thought and work as anyone who does research in this county will understand (we have all noticed that these people lend a whole new meaning to the term "collateral kin".) Yesterday I accordingly I opened my 1850 census CD and printed off the households of Jane May Mayes, Frederick Mayes (the older Frederick), Marcus Daniel, John Oliver, Edward Hodge (Pheby was of course dead by 1850 and Edward was married to his second wife Orlena). I also printed out the ancestry index entries for "Big" John's children who were living in Trigg County Kentucky so I can look these up (if I ever find the time.) However, I find I have a question for you. Today I decided to look at the Kentucky Vital records index to see if any of Big John's children lived long enough to have a death certificate (I thought it unlikely.) I did not find Thomas or David or Wm Mayes. However, when I did a search on Mays I found a "Fredink Mays". Actually I thought that Frederick s/o Jane May and Big John remained in the Grinager/Hamblen County area and that I had seen him on later censuses. However, "Fredink" is the right age to be Frederick and i wonder if Frederick moved to Trigg County like his half brothers. I am hoping you can enlighten me. Bet everyone is wondering why I am posting this to the list rather than writing to Sheri personally. <smile>Well, since everyone in the county is "connected" I am wondering whether anyone has further information on what became of the Marcus Daniels, John Olivers, Frederick May husband of Big John's daughter Elizabeth and if anyone knows which of the Johns listed on the 1850 Grainger County census is Big John and Nancy's son. BTW I was looking at the infromation on GenForum again, and I noticed that Larry Hodge (I must have seen this before, but it didn't register) believes that Big John was married before he married Nancy. This would, of course, mean that Big John was married three times. Sheri, (or anyone?? <grin>) do you have any further information on this?? Gail

I was wondering if this is a misspelling Eliza Gintigan 60-widow Could this be Jennings? Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN

Tracy, George H. McCann married Elizabeth Hayes in 1888 in Grainger Co. I will send you full information later. Although I don't have the 1900 Census index, I thought I could check to see if the McCann's who were neighbors of some of my Camerons in 1920 were also their neighbors back in 1900 and they were. 1900 Census, Tennessee, Grainger Co., District # 5, E.D. 20, shhet 11A, lines 6-14, dwelling 217, family 219: McCann, George H., head, w, m, Sept 1859, 40, married, married 12 years, Tenn., Virginia, Virginia, Farmer Elizabeth, wife, w, f, Apr 1870, 30, married, married 12 years, 8 children, 7 of whom are still living, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn. George H., son, w, m, Mar 1890, 10, single, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn., farm labor Henry L., son, w, m, Mar 1890, 10, single, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn., farm labor, John C., son, w, m, Jan 1891, 9, single, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn. Cornelia J., daughter, w, f, Sept 1892, 7, single, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn. Thomas A., son, w, m, Nov 1894, 5, single, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn. Luther, son, w, m, Jan 1897, 3, single, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn. Hassie, daughter, w, f, Jun 1898, 1, single, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn. lines, 15-20, dwelling 218, family 220: McCann, Pleasant, head, w, m, Feb 1869, 31, married, married 12 years, Tenn., Virginia, Virginia Nettie, wife, w, f, Feb 1874, 26, married, married 12 years, 4 children of whom 4 are still living, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn. Hattie P.(?), daughter, w, f, Dec 1889, 10, single, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn. Mary E., daughter, w, f, Oct 1892, 7, single, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn. Cory K., daughter, w, f, Sept 1895, 4, single, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn. Ula, daughter, w, f, Mar 1898, 2, single, Tenn., Tenn., Tenn. I didn't look for others once I found these. I think that the John C., born Jan 1891 is probably your John Carl which you reported as born in Jan 1889. Later records apparently indicate a birth year of 1889. However, because his parents were not married until 1888 and he had twin older brothers, it seems likely that 1891 is a more likely birth year. It is not unusual for ages to be different between different records for persons born back in that time period and earlier. Many people did not keep as accurate an age record as we do today. Sometimes they may have even changed their age to be older or younger for some purpose and then continued to use that age. Because John Carl's father, George listed his birth as Sept 1859, I decided to check the 1860 census. Sure enough he is there with his parents. 1860 Census, Tennessee, Grainger Co., p. 49, sheet 427, lines 23-31, dwelling 345, family 345: McCann, Andrew J., 38, m, farmer, $100 P.E., Va Mary J., 30, f Larkin E., 14, m, Mary A., 11, f Nortin H., 9, m Emelia F., 8, f [possibly Emelie] Elizabeth, 3, f George H., 9/12, m Grove, Ruben H., 19, m, farm laborer [NOTE: Ruben Grove, 83, m, farmer, is the head of the previous family, #344] [NOTE: Birthstates are only listed for heads of households.] As you may remember last week I sent the McCanns from the 1880 Grainger Co. Census which I repeat here for comment. 1880 Census, Tennessee, Grainger Co., 5th Civil Dist., ED 97, p. 22, lines 49-50, dwelling 184, family 184: McCan, George H., w, m, 18, [head], married, farm hand, TN, VA, VA Eliza J., w, f, 22, wife, married, housekeeper, TN, TN, TN The very next family on the next page, George being at the bottom of a page. p. 23, lines 1-6, dwelling 185, family 185: McCan, Andrew, w, m, 58, [head], married, farm hand, VA, VA, VA Mary J., w, f, 52, wife, married, housekeeper, VA, VA, VA [probably the Mary, 91, in the 1920 Whitt household] John W., w, m, 16, son, single, farm hand, epileptic, TN, VA, VA Pleasant W., w, m, 14, son, single, student, TN, VA, VA Harriett L., w, f, 12, single, student, TN, VA, VA Marshel R. R., w, f, 10, gr. daughter, single, TN, TN, TN It is possible that the granddaughter's last name is Marshel or Marshal instead of McCan/McCann even though this census record indicates her last name is McCan and first name is Marshel. Perhaps checking some early marriage records would help. Also she should be listed in the 1870 census because she was ten in 1880. McCan, Horton (or Norton), 30, TN, TN, TN Martha, 23, TN, TN, TN James, 4, TN, TN, TN, Mary, 2, TN, TN, TN In the 1880 census above, George is listed as married and head of household with wife Elizabeth J. who is slightly older than he and is age two years younger than the other censuses. The marriage records for Grainger County for 1880 are apparently lost. One book ends in 1879 and the next starts in 1881. So this could be a first marriage for George. I did not find a marriage for him in the book that ends in 1879. It is possible, for example, that this wife Elizabeth died in childbirth with their first child. Ross Cameron >>> [email protected] 03/27/03 09:38PM >>> Ross, A family story states that John Carl's mother's maiden name was Hayes. I have no proof of this. I am very interested in what you find on the McCann-Hayes connection. 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I have come across a couple of address re the American Civil War on the inet that might interest some of you if you have not already discovered them. sue http://www.researchonline.net/tncw/page2.htm and an excerpt from a James River Publications page http://www.mosocco.com/tennessee.html Hello, my name is Tim Burgess and for the past 20 years I have been researching the Confederate Soldiers killed or mortally wounded at the Battles of Franklin and Nashville, Tennessee and all the actions within Gen. Hood's Tennessee Campaign of 1864/65. I wish to publish the Confederate Death Roster upon completion. I have at present documented well over 1500 Confederate Dead from Franklin and over 350 from Nashville along with many from the other various engagements. I have details regarding their Deaths and Burials. In the process I have gathered copies of letters, diaries, and over 100 photographs of these brave men and boys from across the South. I wish to correspond with any descendants of these men in hopes of gathering biographical and family information on these soldiers for use in my book. Please feel free to contact me at . Thank you. --- Tim Burgess :[email protected] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 03/17/2003

Dear Bill ~ I completely agree. And thank you for your courage in posting your concurrence. God Bless America! Betty B. From: "Bill Roach" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Fw: Our military men Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 17:44:58 -0600 Dear Betty, I was touched to see the owner of the list deviate from our normal rules and post this message about our young men and women serving their country. I think there are times when there are exceptions to most all rules. Thank you for your courage to post this. GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS- AND GOD BLESS AMERICA Bill Roach - Original Message ----- From: "Betty Allen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:22 AM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Fw: Our military men > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John/Margo > To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 2:05 PM > Subject: Our military men > > > > > The average age of the military man is 19 years. > He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, under normal circumstances is considered by society as half man, half boy. Not > yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his country. > > He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax his own car than wash his father's; but he has never collected unemployment either. > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

!900 Andrew McCan 77-born June 1822-married 55 yrs VA VA VA Marry 72-born June 1827-11 kids 6 living VA VA VA George H.McCann 40-born Sept.1859-married 12 yrs TN VA VA Elizabeth 30-born April 1870-8 kids 7 living TN TN TN George H.10-born Mar.1890 TN TN TN Henry L.10-born Mar.1890 TN TN TN John C. 9-born Jan.1891 TN TN TN Cornelia J. 7-born Sept.1892 TN TN TN Thomas A. 5-born Nov.1894 TN TN TN Luther 3-born Jan.1897 TN TN TN Hassie 1-born June 1898 TN TN TN Pleasant S. McCann 31-born Feb.1869-married 12 yrs TN VA VA Nettie G. 26-born Feb.1874-4 kids 4 living TN TN TN Hattie H. 10-born Dec.1889 TN TN TN Mary E. 7-born Oct.1892 TN TN TN Cory K. 4-born Sept.1895 TN TN TN Ula 2-born Mar.1898 TN TN TN Pleasant & George lived next door. Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 2:16 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Lookup for McCann 1900 Grainger > Hello List, > If anyone has the 1900 Grainger County, TN Census, I would very much > appreciate if you could do a look up for McCann. > Thanks, > Tracy McCann > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Dear Betty, I was touched to see the owner of the list deviate from our normal rules and post this message about our young men and women serving their country. I think there are times when there are exceptions to most all rules. Thank you for your courage to post this. GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS- AND GOD BLESS AMERICA Bill Roach - Original Message ----- From: "Betty Allen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:22 AM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Fw: Our military men > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John/Margo > To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 2:05 PM > Subject: Our military men > > > > > The average age of the military man is 19 years. > He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, under normal circumstances is considered by society as half man, half boy. Not > yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his country. > > He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax his own car than wash his father's; but he has never collected unemployment either. > > > > >

HAMMOCK, Ephraim to LONG, Jane 9-2-182o HAMMACK, John to SHARPE, Sally 2-21-1820 these are the only ones I see.. Shar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Bateman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Need a Marriage or Census Look Up > 1880 Union Co Dist 3 p 148D census from familysearch.com > > Pleasant Hammack 78 TN TN TN > Mary A. Hammack 70 SC SC SC > Elizabeth Hammack 29 TN TN SC > > There is a marriage record for a Wm Hammack m. Sarah Brock on Aug 10 1801 in > Grainger Co TN. Could be his possible parents. I haven't found a records for > Pleasant. > > The 1850 census is listed on rootsweb.com message board for HAMMOCK in > Grainger Co. > > This is not part of my family. > > Mary in CA > ************* > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:32 AM > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Need a Marriage or Census Look Up > > > > I need a Marriage look up for Pleasant Hammock, Grainger Co, TN out of a > > 1787-1866 Marriage Records Book. > > Pleasant was born in 1802 In Grainger Co, Or any Census records after his > > birth. Could also be listed in Union Co. > > I would really like to know who he married. > > Any Info Appreciated, Connie > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >