Betty, Done with 1 phone call from them and 2 telephone calls from, me to them..... I do understand about unsubscribing...... :-) Just wanted everyone to understand that there are some crooks out there....... I enjoyed my subscription, but I certainly can't go back for another year now,,,,, as I had planned on doing innn Sept anyway....... Florence > Just curious - Did you call them on the telephone to cancel your > subscription? You cannot cancel with an email - it has to be a phone call - > > and it has to be cancelled before the subscription is due. They give all > this information in the email they send telling us the subscription will > expire in a few weeks. When I cancelled my subscription, on the phone, they > > gave me a Confirmation Number for the cancellation. > > I recommend that anyone cancelling a subscription with Ancestry take down > the name of the person that you spoke with, make sure you get a > confirmation number, and hang onto number until you are sure they did not > charge your credit card. > > The customer service phone number is 1-800-262-3787. > > Betty

Betty, Thanks for posting the copyright information. This is good to know. I just posted a message in response to the Ancestry automatic renewal. That is true, subscriptions are automatically renewed IF you do not follow their policy for cancellation. They send an email a few weeks before the subscription is due, and in it, they tell you the subscription can only be cancelled or changed by placing a telephone call to them. I cancelled part of my subscription the end of May, and they only billed me for the census records, which is all I wanted to keep. I have also cancelled a subscription due to a move, and due to a crashed computer in the past, and I have had no trouble with them automatically billing me for it. Thanks again, Betty B. From: "Betty Allen" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Ancestry.com and other items of interest FYI Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:29:40 -0500 Hi, After receiving the post from Florence Cornwell, I checked out a little bit of info on the Ancestry site: Memberships to Ancestry are automatically renewed! MyFamily.com, Inc. Copyright MyFamily.com, Inc. Internet Services (This also includes GenForum) Copyright Policy MyFamily.com, Inc. (we, us or our) owns and operates the World Wide Web sites MyFamily.com, Ancestry.com, Ancestry.co.uk, RootsWeb.com and FamilyHistory.com. The design, content and graphics of those sites and all other elements created by us or third parties as work for hire or where the copyright has been assigned to us or one of our subsidiaries remains copyrighted with all rights reserved. To obtain permission to use any of these copyrighted elements, and such permission may be granted or refused at our discretion, write with a full description of the element which you desire to use, the purpose, place and extent of use intended and full contact information including name, address, phone fax and email to: Copyright Permissions MyFamily.com, Inc. 360 W 4800 N Provo, UT 84604 USA or Email [email protected] with all requested information. Content which has been contributed to public area of the MyFamily.com, Inc. sites by users remain the property of the submitter or the original creator and we are a licensed distributor of such content. Occasionally, a person may feel that content submitted by a user is their property or is covered by the copyright of someone other than the submitter. Please remember that we are the distributor of user supplied content and the submitter, not MyFamily.com, Inc., is the one who has violated copyright if such a violation has occurred. However, we will respond to substantiated claims of violation. In such a case, the person who believes they have a claim under copyright should send a claim of copyright violation to: David P. Farnsworth Copyright Agent for Notice MyFamily.com, Inc. 360 W 4800 N Provo, UT 84604 USA or Email [email protected] All the following must be included: a.. Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to be infringed, and the basis of the claim b.. Identification of the material which is claimed to be infringing, including the URL c.. Full contact information on the claimed copyright owner or other claimant, (who must have a license which is being infringed or other standing to make the claim.) This should include the name, address, telephone, fax and email information. d.. A statement, under penalty of perjury, that the information sent is accurate and the complaining party is the owner or an authorized agent of the owner. e.. A physical or electronic signature of the claiming party ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Just curious - Did you call them on the telephone to cancel your subscription? You cannot cancel with an email - it has to be a phone call - and it has to be cancelled before the subscription is due. They give all this information in the email they send telling us the subscription will expire in a few weeks. When I cancelled my subscription, on the phone, they gave me a Confirmation Number for the cancellation. I recommend that anyone cancelling a subscription with Ancestry take down the name of the person that you spoke with, make sure you get a confirmation number, and hang onto number until you are sure they did not charge your credit card. The customer service phone number is 1-800-262-3787. Betty From: "R&T_Cooke" Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Ancestry Subscription Renewal Confirmation Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:13:34 -0400 That's awful they should never automatically renew a subscription without anyone's approval. Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:22 AM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Ancestry Subscription Renewal Confirmation >I just want everyone to know that is is almost impossible to get unsubscribed >from Ancestry.com...... I canceled this subscribtion 3 weeks ago, so to have >the summer off,,,,,, Look what I got Sunday!!! I have had to cancel my credit >card and wait another few days to get my money back..... Nothing could be done >thro ancestry.com...... My only way was thru the bank. Lots of headaches > > >----------------- Forwarded Message: Subj: Ancestry Subscription Renewal >Confirmation Date: 6/15/2003 5:09:26 AM Central Daylight Time From: >HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected] To: >[email protected] Sent from the Internet (Details) > > >Order Status Dear Florence Cornwell, > >Your Ancestry Subscription has been renewed. > >Detailed order information appears below. Thank you for shopping with us! > >Ancestry.com Customer Service > > >Order Date: 6/15/2003 3:45:07 AM Order # 7389884 > > >Billing Address: Florence Cornwell 94 Joseph Lane Glendale Heights, IL >60139 US 630-653-9540 [email protected] > > > > >Ship Method: Standard US > > >Description Price Qty Total Ancestry Subscription Renewal $159.85 1 $159.85 >U.S. Records Collection Subscription - Bil > >U.S. Census Images & Indexes Subscription > >Historical Newspapers Subscription- Billed > >Subtotal $159.85 Shipping $0.00 Sales Tax $0.00 Total $159.85 > > >As a Valued Customer, we recommend the following item(s): > >Land & Property Research in the United States 44.95 >HREF="http://buy.ancestry.com/shops/makedigitaloffer.asp?shminfo=FEO2RBCi2Ho W1yVKuCMLo2zNn3hYQi47d3sCoP+RpO2e3CHCcJU52FHTsIuOWE1jJgCNkcsKhZUOqy5H/j28fA= =">BUY NOW >Land & Property Research in the United States 44.95 >HREF="http://buy.ancestry.com/shops/makedigitaloffer.asp?shminfo=FEO2RBCi2Ho W1yVKuCMLo2zNn3hYQi47d3sCoP+RpO2e3CHCcJU52FHTvYiOXE9uf3yCnK5dgYEBsTNa83mw">B UY NOW >To purchase at a discounted price, please call 1-800-262-3787 > > >If you have any questions or concerns about your renewal, please contact us >using one of the following options and please remember to provide this >information: > >-Order number -Name on the order -Date you placed your order -Phone number, >in case we need to contact you > >For Support Click Here >HREF="http://ancestry.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ancestry.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp. php">Right Now >E-mail - [email protected] Telephone Customer Service - 1-800-262-3787 > >If you are calling from outside the United States, please dial >1-801-705-7620 > >Hours: 8 a.m.-8 p.m. Monday-Friday (Mountain Time). Closed Saturday and >Sunday. > > >Find valuable information for your family, create your own site, do genealogy >research online, or sign up for newsletters! Visit: > > >- MyFamily.com (HREF="http://www.myfamily.com/">http://www.myfamily.com) - >Ancestry.com (HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/">http://www.ancestry.com) - >RootsWeb.com (HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/">http://www.rootsweb.com) > > >==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to >[email protected] > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Hi, After receiving the post from Florence Cornwell, I checked out a little bit of info on the Ancestry site: Memberships to Ancestry are automatically renewed! MyFamily.com, Inc. Copyright MyFamily.com, Inc. Internet Services (This also includes GenForum) Copyright Policy MyFamily.com, Inc. (we, us or our) owns and operates the World Wide Web sites MyFamily.com, Ancestry.com, Ancestry.co.uk, RootsWeb.com and FamilyHistory.com. The design, content and graphics of those sites and all other elements created by us or third parties as work for hire or where the copyright has been assigned to us or one of our subsidiaries remains copyrighted with all rights reserved. To obtain permission to use any of these copyrighted elements, and such permission may be granted or refused at our discretion, write with a full description of the element which you desire to use, the purpose, place and extent of use intended and full contact information including name, address, phone fax and email to: Copyright Permissions MyFamily.com, Inc. 360 W 4800 N Provo, UT 84604 USA or Email [email protected] with all requested information. Content which has been contributed to public area of the MyFamily.com, Inc. sites by users remain the property of the submitter or the original creator and we are a licensed distributor of such content. Occasionally, a person may feel that content submitted by a user is their property or is covered by the copyright of someone other than the submitter. Please remember that we are the distributor of user supplied content and the submitter, not MyFamily.com, Inc., is the one who has violated copyright if such a violation has occurred. However, we will respond to substantiated claims of violation. In such a case, the person who believes they have a claim under copyright should send a claim of copyright violation to: David P. Farnsworth Copyright Agent for Notice MyFamily.com, Inc. 360 W 4800 N Provo, UT 84604 USA or Email [email protected] All the following must be included: a.. Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to be infringed, and the basis of the claim b.. Identification of the material which is claimed to be infringing, including the URL c.. Full contact information on the claimed copyright owner or other claimant, (who must have a license which is being infringed or other standing to make the claim.) This should include the name, address, telephone, fax and email information. d.. A statement, under penalty of perjury, that the information sent is accurate and the complaining party is the owner or an authorized agent of the owner. e.. A physical or electronic signature of the claiming party

That's awful they should never automatically renew a subscription without anyone's approval. Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 11:22 AM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Ancestry Subscription Renewal Confirmation <Beware> > I just want everyone to know that is is almost impossible to get unsubscribed > from Ancestry.com...... I canceled this subscribtion 3 weeks ago, so to have > the summer off,,,,,, Look what I got Sunday!!! I have had to cancel my credit > card and wait another few days to get my money back..... Nothing could be done > thro ancestry.com...... My only way was thru the bank. Lots of headaches > > > ----------------- > Forwarded Message: > Subj: Ancestry Subscription Renewal Confirmation > Date: 6/15/2003 5:09:26 AM Central Daylight Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > Order Status > Dear Florence Cornwell, > > Your Ancestry Subscription has been renewed. > > Detailed order information appears below. Thank you for shopping with us! > > Ancestry.com Customer Service > > > Order Date: 6/15/2003 3:45:07 AM > Order # 7389884 > > > Billing Address: > Florence Cornwell > 94 Joseph Lane > Glendale Heights, IL 60139 > US > 630-653-9540 > [email protected] > > > > > Ship Method: > Standard US > > > Description Price Qty Total > Ancestry Subscription Renewal $159.85 1 $159.85 U.S. > Records Collection Subscription - Bil > > U.S. Census Images & Indexes Subscription > > Historical Newspapers Subscription- Billed > > Subtotal $159.85 > Shipping $0.00 > Sales Tax $0.00 > Total $159.85 > > > As a Valued Customer, we recommend the following item(s): > > Land & Property Research in the United States > 44.95 > <A HREF="http://buy.ancestry.com/shops/makedigitaloffer.asp?shminfo=FEO2RBCi2Ho W1yVKuCMLo2zNn3hYQi47d3sCoP+RpO2e3CHCcJU52FHTsIuOWE1jJgCNkcsKhZUOqy5H/j28fA= =">BUY NOW</A> > Land & Property Research in the United States > 44.95 > <A HREF="http://buy.ancestry.com/shops/makedigitaloffer.asp?shminfo=FEO2RBCi2Ho W1yVKuCMLo2zNn3hYQi47d3sCoP+RpO2e3CHCcJU52FHTvYiOXE9uf3yCnK5dgYEBsTNa83mw">B UY NOW</A> > To purchase at a discounted price, please call 1-800-262-3787 > > > If you have any questions or concerns about your renewal, please contact us > using one of the following options and please remember to provide this > information: > > -Order number > -Name on the order > -Date you placed your order > -Phone number, in case we need to contact you > > For Support Click Here <A HREF="http://ancestry.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ancestry.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp. php">Right Now</A> > E-mail - [email protected] > Telephone Customer Service - 1-800-262-3787 > > If you are calling from outside the United States, please dial > 1-801-705-7620 > > Hours: 8 a.m.-8 p.m. Monday-Friday (Mountain Time). Closed Saturday and > Sunday. > > > Find valuable information for your family, create your own site, do genealogy > research online, or sign up for newsletters! > Visit: > > > - MyFamily.com (<A HREF="http://www.myfamily.com/">http://www.myfamily.com</A>) > - Ancestry.com (<A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/">http://www.ancestry.com</A>) > - RootsWeb.com (<A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/">http://www.rootsweb.com</A>) > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

I just want everyone to know that is is almost impossible to get unsubscribed from Ancestry.com...... I canceled this subscribtion 3 weeks ago, so to have the summer off,,,,,, Look what I got Sunday!!! I have had to cancel my credit card and wait another few days to get my money back..... Nothing could be done thro ancestry.com...... My only way was thru the bank. Lots of headaches ----------------- Forwarded Message: Subj: Ancestry Subscription Renewal Confirmation  Date: 6/15/2003 5:09:26 AM Central Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Order Status Dear Florence Cornwell, Your Ancestry Subscription has been renewed. Detailed order information appears below. Thank you for shopping with us! Ancestry.com Customer Service Order Date: 6/15/2003 3:45:07 AM Order # 7389884 Billing Address:      Florence Cornwell      94 Joseph Lane      Glendale Heights, IL 60139      US      630-653-9540      [email protected] Ship Method:      Standard US Description   Price   Qty   Total Ancestry Subscription Renewal   $159.85   1   $159.85 U.S. Records Collection Subscription - Bil U.S. Census Images & Indexes Subscription Historical Newspapers Subscription- Billed   Subtotal   $159.85   Shipping   $0.00   Sales Tax   $0.00   Total   $159.85 As a Valued Customer, we recommend the following item(s): Land & Property Research in the United States 44.95 <A HREF="http://buy.ancestry.com/shops/makedigitaloffer.asp?shminfo=FEO2RBCi2HoW1yVKuCMLo2zNn3hYQi47d3sCoP+RpO2e3CHCcJU52FHTsIuOWE1jJgCNkcsKhZUOqy5H/j28fA==">BUY NOW</A> Land & Property Research in the United States 44.95 <A HREF="http://buy.ancestry.com/shops/makedigitaloffer.asp?shminfo=FEO2RBCi2HoW1yVKuCMLo2zNn3hYQi47d3sCoP+RpO2e3CHCcJU52FHTvYiOXE9uf3yCnK5dgYEBsTNa83mw">BUY NOW</A> To purchase at a discounted price, please call 1-800-262-3787 If you have any questions or concerns about your renewal, please contact us using one of the following options and please remember to provide this information:      -Order number      -Name on the order      -Date you placed your order      -Phone number, in case we need to contact you For Support Click Here <A HREF="http://ancestry.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ancestry.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php">Right Now</A> E-mail - [email protected] Telephone Customer Service - 1-800-262-3787 If you are calling from outside the United States, please dial 1-801-705-7620 Hours: 8 a.m.-8 p.m. Monday-Friday (Mountain Time). Closed Saturday and Sunday. Find valuable information for your family, create your own site, do genealogy research online, or sign up for newsletters! Visit:   - MyFamily.com (<A HREF="http://www.myfamily.com/">http://www.myfamily.com</A>)   - Ancestry.com (<A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com/">http://www.ancestry.com</A>)   - RootsWeb.com (<A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/">http://www.rootsweb.com</A>)

Dear List, my mom saw an email from a cousin about a couple of our grandparents, and i thought i'd ask the help of our lists, if you will please, soooo does anyone know where in GRAINGER Co. SHEROD & wife ELIZABETH MAYES are buried? a cousin said in an email just now, that RUTLEDGE was listed, but no cemetery name.or he had overlooked it. please email me if you can help here, thank you very much, love Dawn

Hey cousin , if you learn where our grands are buried PLEASE, PLEASE let me know, mine and me are going there the SEPTEMBER, geez, what a little girl, wish/dream come true for me, well please let me know on grans SHERROD and LIZ, thank you so much, in kinship, Deborah ~~~~~~~~~~*~~~~~~~~~~ Our Family Website; http://www.geocities.com/jaybessieparton maternal side;Tennessee HELTON/HILTON/HYLTON-COLLINS-WILLIAMS-MAYES-WITT/WHITT/WHYTT/DeWITT-LIPTROT- ROGERS-DAUX/DAWKES-MITCHELL-BURGESS-WILSON-BERRY-ANDRESEN-GARLAND-PAINTER-RO SSER-NEAVIL-SMITH-SATTERFIELD-LAMB-and many others paternal side; Kentucky PARTON/PARTIN-HELTON-FOLEY-HUBBARD-LEIGH/LAY-TRIMBLE-TARTER-DORTER-BALTHSER- FLEMING-LOGAN-HAWKINS-ENGLAND-ENGLE-STRUM-BEYERLE-CAMPBELL-WOODS-MUNCY/MUNCI E-WARREN-UTTERBACK/OTTERBACK-COBB-FISHBACK-LOWE-MC/FARLAND-SHERROD-SUTTON-JO NES-STANFIELD/STANFILL-THOMAS-PORTER-MAILAND-LAUDERDALE-RICHER/RECTOR-HITT-G OLDEN-GREEN/GREENE-and many more Luke 8:10, Make your own Miracles ----- Original Message ----- From: "TN MAN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] MAYES info given to me > hi all,this list quite!.to all of you that > have sent me MAYES info and other surnames > such as MOORE...i'm requesting permission to > put the info on my webpages.a "DUSTY" sent > a huge WILLIAM HENRY MAYES list.i'd like to > use it.due to lack of brain power i failed to > save e addresses connected to the info.i got > 1 of a GOODWIN MAYES..so if not asking to much > let me know if ok to post the info.also does > anyone know where in GRAINGER Co.SHEROD & > wife ELIZABETH MAYES are buried? i saw > RUTLEDGE listed,but no cemetery name.or i > overlooked it.i was in POOR VALLEY visiting > my brothers last weekend.would have visited our > g-g-g-greatgrandparents graves.thank you, > Ray Moore. > Researching (this name most wanted: MOORE.) MAYES,SMITH, > TOWNSLEY,HUNDLEY,HUNLEY & MANIS.my base is CLAIBORNE County,TN > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

hi all,this list quite!.to all of you that have sent me MAYES info and other surnames such as MOORE...i'm requesting permission to put the info on my webpages.a "DUSTY" sent a huge WILLIAM HENRY MAYES list.i'd like to use it.due to lack of brain power i failed to save e addresses connected to the info.i got 1 of a GOODWIN MAYES..so if not asking to much let me know if ok to post the info.also does anyone know where in GRAINGER Co.SHEROD & wife ELIZABETH MAYES are buried? i saw RUTLEDGE listed,but no cemetery name.or i overlooked it.i was in POOR VALLEY visiting my brothers last weekend.would have visited our g-g-g-greatgrandparents graves.thank you, Ray Moore. Researching (this name most wanted: MOORE.) MAYES,SMITH, TOWNSLEY,HUNDLEY,HUNLEY & MANIS.my base is CLAIBORNE County,TN -- http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service?

I am trying to find records in Grainger Co. Tennessee for ADAM STROPES b. 1793 in North Carolina to Peter STROPES and unknown mother. Peter died shortly after Adam was born and the mother married a Mr. TANKERSLEY and moved to Tennessee with Adam. [Adam's obituary says Jacksboro, Tennessee which apparently wasn't founded until 1806 and so that information cannot be correct.  However since that's the only area I have a reference to, that's where I've been searching.  I believe in between 1799-1801 that area would have been in Grainger Co. before that Knox Co., after that Anderson Co.] Adam's mother died in 1800 in Tennessee, and Adam was raised by a Mr. THARP. [Again according to his obituary.] By 1812, Adam had joined the Army at Knoxville, and fought in the war and then moved to Vincennes Indiana. I have been searching for records of orphans and guardians or perhaps apprenticeship records for Adam or his other Stropes siblings. Actually I'm looking for anything on Stropes in Eastern Tennessee, it has been most frustrating trying to find the names of his mother and step-father or the mysterious Mr. Tharp who raised him. Adam's name was originally spelled STROUP, but he spelled it Stropes in all the records in Indiana. I would welcome any suggestions or help with my mystery. thanks! Denise [email protected]

Ray - I took a look at your site, but didn't see anything on Moore that might help me. It is interesting, though, that the names Townsley, Mayes, and Whitaker are also old Hays County TX names. And that's back when Buda's population was barely over 100! When I say Hays County, I mean Buda, Kyle, and San Marcos primarily. I don't think there are any Whitakers left in Buda, but there are some in Kyle -a cousin married one of them. I don't know about Townsley, either, but there is at least one Mayes - that being John Wayne Mayes, son of J. W. and Shirlene Satterwhite Mayes or at least, I saw John Wayne Mayes there about a year ago. And, there were Moore's in San Marcos, and in Dripping Springs. The one in Dripping Springs was a County Commissioner and was killed by Indians while he was horseback and on his way to a Court meeting in San Marcos. Thought I'd tell you this before I forget it. I learned long ago that there is just no guessing where useful information might come from, or just how we come to be in the right place at the right time. It may not be a coincidence that four of your names were located in the same area of TX. Buda is located about 15 miles South of Austin and about 60 miles North of San Antonio, off I-35. Betty B. Betty B. From: "TN MAN" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Moore Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:06:39 -0600 hi Betty,same with me just trying.trouble is to many MOOREs!!!.i've no clue as to my great gramps other than a son said his dad was from TX.best to do is go to my homepages and look. also while there look at that huge LEWIS SURNAMES list.lots names & TX people.theres 1 MOORE in it killed at the ALAMO...let me knpw how it goes.a shot in the dark..Ray Moore. my hp addy.... http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore/moore.htm On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:56:24 +0000, "Betty B" <[email protected]> said: > Ray - > > Just wondering if you have any information the Moore Family that lived in > Lincoln Co. TN in the early to mid-1830s? Am particularly interested in > a > Jonathan Moore that had a daughter named Mary Amantha Moore. Jonathan > Moore > and family moved to Bibb County AL at some point, and Mary Amantha > married > George Washington Creel there. He died during the Civil War and Mary > died > shortly thereafter. Their three children, one of whom was my > great-grandfather, were raised by the Grandfather Moore. These children > later went to MS, and came to Texas from Tate Co. MS in about 1895. > > Just taking a shot in the dark that you might know something about this > family. > > Thanks, > > Betty > > > > > > > > > From: "TN MAN" > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Vineyard relatives > Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:38:59 -0600 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > Researching (this name most wanted: MOORE.) MAYES,SMITH, TOWNSLEY,HUNDLEY,HUNLEY & MANIS.my base is CLAIBORNE County,TN -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Thanks, Ray. Yes, there are lots of Moores around. There were several families of Moores in Buda TX, where I grew up. One of them had a drug store downstairs and they lived upstairs. The had a son (I think - Clifton) and a daughter that had polio and was in a wheel chair the rest of her life. It facinated us kids that they had an elevator at the back of the store for the daughter's use. Odd, I hadn't thought about those people in years! What was your grandfather's name, and about when was he born? I can see if I can find anything when I go to the State Archives next. (Don't know when that will be!) Good luck, Betty From: "TN MAN" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Moore Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:06:39 -0600 hi Betty,same with me just trying.trouble is to many MOOREs!!!.i've no clue as to my great gramps other than a son said his dad was from TX.best to do is go to my homepages and look. also while there look at that huge LEWIS SURNAMES list.lots names & TX people.theres 1 MOORE in it killed at the ALAMO...let me knpw how it goes.a shot in the dark..Ray Moore. my hp addy.... http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore/moore.htm On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:56:24 +0000, "Betty B" <[email protected]> said: > Ray - > > Just wondering if you have any information the Moore Family that lived in > Lincoln Co. TN in the early to mid-1830s? Am particularly interested in > a > Jonathan Moore that had a daughter named Mary Amantha Moore. Jonathan > Moore > and family moved to Bibb County AL at some point, and Mary Amantha > married > George Washington Creel there. He died during the Civil War and Mary > died > shortly thereafter. Their three children, one of whom was my > great-grandfather, were raised by the Grandfather Moore. These children > later went to MS, and came to Texas from Tate Co. MS in about 1895. > > Just taking a shot in the dark that you might know something about this > family. > > Thanks, > > Betty > > > > > > > > > From: "TN MAN" > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Vineyard relatives > Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:38:59 -0600 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > Researching (this name most wanted: MOORE.) MAYES,SMITH, TOWNSLEY,HUNDLEY,HUNLEY & MANIS.my base is CLAIBORNE County,TN -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Sheri, Almost all of the information I have on Moore is in my query! I do know that one or more John/Jonathan Moore's owned quite a bit of land in and around the vacinity where my g-g-grandfather G. W. Creel had land. Almost all Creel family researchers believe that Grandfather Moore either tried or did beat the boys out of their land in AL, and that's why they packed up and went to MS. Maybe Grandpa thought he deserved it for having spent years raising the boys, all of whom were very young when both father and mother died, and maybe he did deserve it. I'm no help to you right now, but I will keep my eyes open for your McCools when I search in Bibb County for Moores and Creels. Good luck, Betty From: "Sheri P. Kelly" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Moore Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Betty, would you have any McCools in with your Bibb Co., AL Moore family? Sheri Betty B <[email protected]> wrote: Ray - Just wondering if you have any information the Moore Family that lived in Lincoln Co. TN in the early to mid-1830s? Am particularly interested in a Jonathan Moore that had a daughter named Mary Amantha Moore. Jonathan Moore and family moved to Bibb County AL at some point, and Mary Amantha married George Washington Creel there. He died during the Civil War and Mary died shortly thereafter. Their three children, one of whom was my great-grandfather, were raised by the Grandfather Moore. These children later went to MS, and came to Texas from Tate Co. MS in about 1895. Just taking a shot in the dark that you might know something about this family. Thanks, Betty From: "TN MAN" Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Vineyard relatives Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:38:59 -0600 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Ray - Just wondering if you have any information the Moore Family that lived in Lincoln Co. TN in the early to mid-1830s? Am particularly interested in a Jonathan Moore that had a daughter named Mary Amantha Moore. Jonathan Moore and family moved to Bibb County AL at some point, and Mary Amantha married George Washington Creel there. He died during the Civil War and Mary died shortly thereafter. Their three children, one of whom was my great-grandfather, were raised by the Grandfather Moore. These children later went to MS, and came to Texas from Tate Co. MS in about 1895. Just taking a shot in the dark that you might know something about this family. Thanks, Betty From: "TN MAN" Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Vineyard relatives Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:38:59 -0600 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Betty,all we know of greatgtamps is name JACK MOORE b.TX. maybe. thats it. 0! sure helps! thata all we have.Ray On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:45:51 +0000, "Betty B" <[email protected]> said: > Thanks, Ray. Yes, there are lots of Moores around. There were several > families of Moores in Buda TX, where I grew up. One of them had a drug > store downstairs and they lived upstairs. The had a son (I think - > Clifton) > and a daughter that had polio and was in a wheel chair the rest of her > life. > It facinated us kids that they had an elevator at the back of the store > for the daughter's use. Odd, I hadn't thought about those people in > years! > > What was your grandfather's name, and about when was he born? I can see > if > I can find anything when I go to the State Archives next. (Don't know > when > that will be!) > > Good luck, > > Betty > > > From: "TN MAN" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Moore > Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:06:39 -0600 > > hi Betty,same with me just trying.trouble is > to many MOOREs!!!.i've no clue as to my great > gramps other than a son said his dad was from > TX.best to do is go to my homepages and look. > also while there look at that huge LEWIS SURNAMES > list.lots names & TX people.theres 1 MOORE in > it killed at the ALAMO...let me knpw how it > goes.a shot in the dark..Ray Moore. > my hp addy.... http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore/moore.htm > On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:56:24 +0000, "Betty B" <[email protected]> said: > > Ray - > > > > Just wondering if you have any information the Moore Family that lived in > > Lincoln Co. TN in the early to mid-1830s? Am particularly interested in > > a > > Jonathan Moore that had a daughter named Mary Amantha Moore. Jonathan > > Moore > > and family moved to Bibb County AL at some point, and Mary Amantha > > married > > George Washington Creel there. He died during the Civil War and Mary > > died > > shortly thereafter. Their three children, one of whom was my > > great-grandfather, were raised by the Grandfather Moore. These children > > later went to MS, and came to Texas from Tate Co. MS in about 1895. > > > > Just taking a shot in the dark that you might know something about this > > family. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Betty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "TN MAN" > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Vineyard relatives > > Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:38:59 -0600 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > > [email protected] > > > > > Researching (this name most wanted: MOORE.) MAYES,SMITH, > TOWNSLEY,HUNDLEY,HUNLEY & MANIS.my base is CLAIBORNE County,TN > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders > wherever you are > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > Researching (this name most wanted: MOORE.) MAYES,SMITH, TOWNSLEY,HUNDLEY,HUNLEY & MANIS.my base is CLAIBORNE County,TN -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are

Betty, would you have any McCools in with your Bibb Co., AL Moore family? Sheri Betty B <[email protected]> wrote: Ray - Just wondering if you have any information the Moore Family that lived in Lincoln Co. TN in the early to mid-1830s? Am particularly interested in a Jonathan Moore that had a daughter named Mary Amantha Moore. Jonathan Moore and family moved to Bibb County AL at some point, and Mary Amantha married George Washington Creel there. He died during the Civil War and Mary died shortly thereafter. Their three children, one of whom was my great-grandfather, were raised by the Grandfather Moore. These children later went to MS, and came to Texas from Tate Co. MS in about 1895. Just taking a shot in the dark that you might know something about this family. Thanks, Betty From: "TN MAN" Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Vineyard relatives Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:38:59 -0600 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

hi Betty,same with me just trying.trouble is to many MOOREs!!!.i've no clue as to my great gramps other than a son said his dad was from TX.best to do is go to my homepages and look. also while there look at that huge LEWIS SURNAMES list.lots names & TX people.theres 1 MOORE in it killed at the ALAMO...let me knpw how it goes.a shot in the dark..Ray Moore. my hp addy.... http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore/moore.htm On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 18:56:24 +0000, "Betty B" <[email protected]> said: > Ray - > > Just wondering if you have any information the Moore Family that lived in > Lincoln Co. TN in the early to mid-1830s? Am particularly interested in > a > Jonathan Moore that had a daughter named Mary Amantha Moore. Jonathan > Moore > and family moved to Bibb County AL at some point, and Mary Amantha > married > George Washington Creel there. He died during the Civil War and Mary > died > shortly thereafter. Their three children, one of whom was my > great-grandfather, were raised by the Grandfather Moore. These children > later went to MS, and came to Texas from Tate Co. MS in about 1895. > > Just taking a shot in the dark that you might know something about this > family. > > Thanks, > > Betty > > > > > > > > > From: "TN MAN" > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Vineyard relatives > Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:38:59 -0600 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > Researching (this name most wanted: MOORE.) MAYES,SMITH, TOWNSLEY,HUNDLEY,HUNLEY & MANIS.my base is CLAIBORNE County,TN -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are

Sheri was this Claude/Cloud Baumgardner connected to the CUMBERLAND GAP,TN family? i grew up knowing several people by that name. Ray On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:36:35 -0700 (PDT), "Sheri P. Kelly" <[email protected]> said: > Ray: I have a Howerton/Baumgardner family I'm doing some work in and I > found where a Claude/Cloud Baumgardner married one woman (actually she > was 13) then in other information found where he's married to the girl's > older sister. I felt the researcher was wrong, then I finally found > where most likely the younger girl died and the next oldest sister > married Claude to become a mother for the young baby. Have you checked > any death dates of Gardner? Or was one of the Catherine Vineyards a > married before woman, and she just happened to marry a Vineyard and when > he died, she married a Mays. Also, want to know who Myra Inez Mayes > belongs to. Sheri > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > Researching (this name most wanted: MOORE.) MAYES,SMITH, TOWNSLEY,HUNDLEY,HUNLEY & MANIS.my base is CLAIBORNE County,TN -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail...

hi Sheri, heres what cuz sent me.INEZ was his grandmother.also he sent me his dad % mom's 50th wedding photo.INEZ is steve's dad's mom. ---------------------------------------------- this from cuz in KNOXVILLE.his granny was MYRA INEZ MAYS of BLOUNT Co.TN..note this GARDNER married CATHERINE VINEYARD.also 10 nonths apart a GOODWIN MAYS/MAYRS married a CATHERINE VINEYARD. same lady? married both? or a word of mouth got the 2 MAYS/MAYES names mixed up?.as a result of finding GARDNER's lines connected to my main MAYES lines & the marriage of HOUSTON & ROSA BROWN's son to a MAYS. as it is HOUSTON's mom was a MAYES. the E added in 1860. our greatgramps JACK MOORE is a mystery.as we are now thinking he may be from the BLOUNT Co.area. thanks Ray Moore. -------------------------------------------------- Gardner Mayes was born around 1780 in Virginia. Died 1-29-1859 in Blount County Tennessee buried at Logen's Chapel cemetary. In 1803 married Catherine Vineyard in Grainger County Tennessee she was born 1783 in Virginia. Her parents are John and Mary Bess Muse Vineyard. There children are: Mary (Polly) Born 1803; Died 1890; Married Joseph TiptonJr. 8-30-1825 Elizabeth Born 1806; Died 1891: Married Rev. Spencer Henry David Born 1807; Married Lucinda Tipton 7- 15-1830 John Born 1809 Millie Amelia Born 1811; Married John Wheeler 8-2-1827 Frances (Frannie) Born 1813; Died 1898; Married Joseph Caldwell 11-16-1833 Flemming Born 1815; Died 1870; Married Jane Sherrill 8-28-1836 Susan Born 1816; Died 1887; Married William Kidd 12-29-1853 Wilson Born 181? (maybe 1812 hard to read) Married Mary Polly Sherrill James Married Susan Brakebell or Brakeville Flemming was my line. He and Jane Sherrill had the following children: Catherine born 1839 Martha born 1840 James born 1842 Serena born 1843 married a Godfrey Susan born 1844 Joseph born 1846 David Pryor born 7-7-1850; Died 2-20-1921; Married Alice Minerva Davis 11-14-1897 2nd wife John R. born 1852 Alexander born 1854; Married Nancy Boyd Elizabeth born 1856 David Pryor Mays was my line. He and Alice Minerva Davis had the following children: Alvin Eugene Died in infancy. Lynn Howard Died in infancy. Veryl Mahalia Born 6-2-1903; Died 3-4-1975; Married Murphy Brown Harlan LaFayette Born 6-10-1905; Died in childhood Ruth Louise Born 9-5-1907; Married Cecil Frank Keith Jr. 1-15-1927 Percy Elmore Died in infancy Myra Inez born 11-16-1911 Myra Inez Mays was my grandmother she married James Earl Moore ----------------------------------------------- On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:36:35 -0700 (PDT), "Sheri P. Kelly" <[email protected]> said: > Ray: I have a Howerton/Baumgardner family I'm doing some work in and I > found where a Claude/Cloud Baumgardner married one woman (actually she > was 13) then in other information found where he's married to the girl's > older sister. I felt the researcher was wrong, then I finally found > where most likely the younger girl died and the next oldest sister > married Claude to become a mother for the young baby. Have you checked > any death dates of Gardner? Or was one of the Catherine Vineyards a > married before woman, and she just happened to marry a Vineyard and when > he died, she married a Mays. Also, want to know who Myra Inez Mayes > belongs to. Sheri > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > Researching (this name most wanted: MOORE.) MAYES,SMITH, TOWNSLEY,HUNDLEY,HUNLEY & MANIS.my base is CLAIBORNE County,TN -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service