Gail: When you say St. Joe are you in St. Joseph, Missouri? If so, do you ever get down to the genealogy library at the Mid Continent Library in Independence, MO. They have a pretty good section that includes information from other areas of the US and not just Independence, Jackson County or Missouri. In fact, I have donated some materials I purchased while doing my own family research. I usually make copies of what I want and ship it to them from Ohio. Unfortunately I don't have much from Grainger County because they don't have an active genealogy society that publishes materials. I have recently located some from S-K Publications and plan to order them as my time and money permits. Again, as soon as I finish with them I will donate to the library in Independence. Just a thought in case that's where you are located. Conni Mitchell Braun ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Cox and Mayes Families > Dear Sheri, (and anyone else who is interested in the family of Big John > Mayes.) > > Further re: John Mayes son of "Big" John. If you read the entire thread at > GenForum you will note that Ruby Sharp mentioned that the letter of > administration gave John Mayes, Jr.'s middle initial, N. and that knowing > the middle initial could be helpful. (Unfortunately, no initial is given > for the John I believe to be Big John's son on the 1850 census.) I appear > to have missed transcribing this John's household on one of my several trips > through the 1860 Grainger County census. I don't have this census on CD > (CDs are really terrific, but I really hate to buy censuses I already have > on microfilm.) I have been trying to find time to run over to my neighbor's > (she has a microfilm reader) and see if I can find this John. > > Anyway I am still hoping to get a chance to do this. I may try ancestry > later this evening. I mean REALLY late this evening <grin>, but even on the > larger and faster computer my husband usually uses ancestry images are sooo > slow loading that I think I would just prefer to wait until I have access to > a microfilm reader. > > I finally got a chance to get off this farm and do some research last week. > Unfortunately a microfilm I had ordered into the FHC in St. Joe had not yet > come in so I journeyed to my genealogy society library to view the dread > 1870 Grainger County census. I discovered many years ago that my gen > library had a copy of the 1870 Grainger County census (a census I never > intend to purchase in any form and have never even TRIED to view on > ancestry.com) and that I could actually read it on the reader/printer at my > genealogy library. Unfortunately everyone wants to use the reader/printer > so I have to be patient. For some years now whenever I am at the library > and have nothing else to work on and the reader/printer is available I have > been ploughing through the 1870 Grainger County census. Anyway Sheri, I > didn't find the household of the right John Mayes. I did locate Mark Daniel > and am hoping to find John next time provided he hadn't died or left the > county by 1870. > > Sorry to natter on so guys<grin>, but there have been quite a few remarks > about the 1870 Grainger census on the list recently... I still remember my > first attempts to decipher this census on my neighbor's little microfilm > machine some years ago. She was sitting quietly in the office working on > her own genealogy materials and I was viewing this census in the living room > and I kept bursting in on her yelling about all the initials. I eventually > calmed down and realized that most of my ancestors and connections were > listed under their full names. (Regrettably this is the section of the > census that was done in what I am convinced was disappearing ink.) On this > first trip through I ONLY transcribed the households of my ancestors and > their closest connections. This is not my all time favorite census. > > Bye for now, > > Gail > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gail Roorda <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 20:01 > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Cox and Mayes Families > > > > Dear Sheri, > > . > > You said, > > > > "I have posted a query to the lists, but have had no response as of yet. > > This young John could be the son of Big John, or one of the many other > Mayes > > lines in that area. " > > > > I would have answered your query earlier if I had figured out what you > were > > getting at..<grin> ie that the John Maze in the 1850 Hancock MIGHT be "Big > > John" and Nancy's son. > > > > I am about 100 percent certain that the John Maze in Hancocke County is > NOT > > John the son of "Big John" and Nancy MAYES MAYES son John. > > > > See the Mayes Family Genealogy Board at GenForum > > > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes/ > > > > Read the last line of Larry Hodge's posting dated 07 September 2001. > > > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes/messages/1137.html > > > > Larry said, "Also from other records, big John had a son John Mayes jr, > but > > i haven't figured out which one he would be - he may be the one who > married > > Mary Hodge(s) or the one that married Margaret Noe." > > > > (Actually I am going to narrow it down EVEN further than Larry and say > that > > I believe that Big John and Nancy's son was the one that married Margaret > > Noe since I think that the John that married Mary Hodges is Edward's son > > (that's Edward son of Liggen) ie the OTHER Mayes family we have been > > discussing over the last months. (Shar R. it is good to see you posting > to > > the list!! I am taking steps to do further research into Edward's family. > > Will write as soon as the materials come in). > > > > How can Larry (or I for that matter) narrow it down to these possibilities > > (and as I said <grin> I believe I can narrow it down even further...)??? > > Because Big John died intestate and the Grainger County court appointed > the > > administrators. Court appointed administrators quite often a son and a > > son-in-law (in the case of Big John's estate, his son John Mayes and > > son-in-law, Marcus L "Mark" Daniel were appointed to administer the > estate. > > These court apponted administrators would have lived in the area (I can't > > think of a single exception in all of my research). The administrators > > would have had to have been available to handle the details connected with > > settling the estate. > > > > Bye for Now, > > > > Gail in MO > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Dear Grainger County researchers. Whenever I get a chance to access Grainger County materials (out here I am mostly dependent on film) I like to write to the list and tell everybody what can be found in the record books. As most of you know records were entered in odd places and sometimes where one would least expect to find a particular record. The Grainger County deed book for the years 1865-1869 contains union soldiers' discharge papers. I have no idea why these records were entered in the deed books. They are not entered at the end as if they were using available paper, but are interspersed among the deeds. I copied these as I had time so I could have some examples to send to the list. (I was only able to get to St. Joe for one day). I probably should have renewed the film (the nice lady at the FHC kept it much longer than the period that |I had rented it for and kept calling to see if I was going to be able to make it back to St. Joe. I finally told her to send the film back since I had new film coming. Anyway I have transcribed some examples and will be sending them to the list either this evening or tomorrow. (Hopefully) Gail

Dear Shar, I do think you have found William!! He was listed as age 6 on the 1860 census with Edward and his unmarried half sister Phebe. I am still working on finding some document in which all of Edward's heirs would be listed. Both Wm and those I believe to be Edward's other sons. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: SharR <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 13:58 Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Heirs of Edward Mayes February 1866 > PS. that awful 1870 census (with all the Initials) shows Absolum Roach & > Catherine "Kate" Yates....with a William age 16,(no last name) I had thought > he was a Roach, but he probably was Wm Mayes....he isn't their son they were > not married that long before 1870, their eldest child is 7... > Shar > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:27 PM > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Heirs of Edward Mayes February 1866 > > > > It has been quite a few tomorrows since I sent the following email to the > > list. As I have already told Sharon the these documents shed no further > > light on Edward's heirs including young William Mayes son of Edward's > second > > marriage to Sarah Roach. > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Dear Sheri, (and anyone else who is interested in the family of Big John Mayes.) Further re: John Mayes son of "Big" John. If you read the entire thread at GenForum you will note that Ruby Sharp mentioned that the letter of administration gave John Mayes, Jr.'s middle initial, N. and that knowing the middle initial could be helpful. (Unfortunately, no initial is given for the John I believe to be Big John's son on the 1850 census.) I appear to have missed transcribing this John's household on one of my several trips through the 1860 Grainger County census. I don't have this census on CD (CDs are really terrific, but I really hate to buy censuses I already have on microfilm.) I have been trying to find time to run over to my neighbor's (she has a microfilm reader) and see if I can find this John. Anyway I am still hoping to get a chance to do this. I may try ancestry later this evening. I mean REALLY late this evening <grin>, but even on the larger and faster computer my husband usually uses ancestry images are sooo slow loading that I think I would just prefer to wait until I have access to a microfilm reader. I finally got a chance to get off this farm and do some research last week. Unfortunately a microfilm I had ordered into the FHC in St. Joe had not yet come in so I journeyed to my genealogy society library to view the dread 1870 Grainger County census. I discovered many years ago that my gen library had a copy of the 1870 Grainger County census (a census I never intend to purchase in any form and have never even TRIED to view on ancestry.com) and that I could actually read it on the reader/printer at my genealogy library. Unfortunately everyone wants to use the reader/printer so I have to be patient. For some years now whenever I am at the library and have nothing else to work on and the reader/printer is available I have been ploughing through the 1870 Grainger County census. Anyway Sheri, I didn't find the household of the right John Mayes. I did locate Mark Daniel and am hoping to find John next time provided he hadn't died or left the county by 1870. Sorry to natter on so guys<grin>, but there have been quite a few remarks about the 1870 Grainger census on the list recently... I still remember my first attempts to decipher this census on my neighbor's little microfilm machine some years ago. She was sitting quietly in the office working on her own genealogy materials and I was viewing this census in the living room and I kept bursting in on her yelling about all the initials. I eventually calmed down and realized that most of my ancestors and connections were listed under their full names. (Regrettably this is the section of the census that was done in what I am convinced was disappearing ink.) On this first trip through I ONLY transcribed the households of my ancestors and their closest connections. This is not my all time favorite census. Bye for now, Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail Roorda <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 20:01 Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Cox and Mayes Families > Dear Sheri, > . > You said, > > "I have posted a query to the lists, but have had no response as of yet. > This young John could be the son of Big John, or one of the many other Mayes > lines in that area. " > > I would have answered your query earlier if I had figured out what you were > getting at..<grin> ie that the John Maze in the 1850 Hancock MIGHT be "Big > John" and Nancy's son. > > I am about 100 percent certain that the John Maze in Hancocke County is NOT > John the son of "Big John" and Nancy MAYES MAYES son John. > > See the Mayes Family Genealogy Board at GenForum > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes/ > > Read the last line of Larry Hodge's posting dated 07 September 2001. > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes/messages/1137.html > > Larry said, "Also from other records, big John had a son John Mayes jr, but > i haven't figured out which one he would be - he may be the one who married > Mary Hodge(s) or the one that married Margaret Noe." > > (Actually I am going to narrow it down EVEN further than Larry and say that > I believe that Big John and Nancy's son was the one that married Margaret > Noe since I think that the John that married Mary Hodges is Edward's son > (that's Edward son of Liggen) ie the OTHER Mayes family we have been > discussing over the last months. (Shar R. it is good to see you posting to > the list!! I am taking steps to do further research into Edward's family. > Will write as soon as the materials come in). > > How can Larry (or I for that matter) narrow it down to these possibilities > (and as I said <grin> I believe I can narrow it down even further...)??? > Because Big John died intestate and the Grainger County court appointed the > administrators. Court appointed administrators quite often a son and a > son-in-law (in the case of Big John's estate, his son John Mayes and > son-in-law, Marcus L "Mark" Daniel were appointed to administer the estate. > These court apponted administrators would have lived in the area (I can't > think of a single exception in all of my research). The administrators > would have had to have been available to handle the details connected with > settling the estate. > > Bye for Now, > > Gail in MO > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

probably, these men were neibors, friends or possibly related... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conni Braun" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Douglass Apprenticeships > The William Mitchell mentioned is probably my 5th great grandfather. No > clue as to the connection. > > Conni Mitchell Braun > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SharR" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:49 PM > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Douglass Apprenticeships > > > > RE: [TNGRAING-L] ApprenticeshipsMathew Campbell > > > > We Mathew Campbell, William Mitchel & Samuel Peery all of the County of > Grainger and state of Tennessee are bound unto David Tate, Noah Jarnagin & > William Keith Justice of the County Court to said County in the sum of > $700.00 for the benefit of the said minors here after named committed to the > tuition of the said Mathew Campbell 1st May 1811. > > > > Where as the above bounden Mathew Campbell is constituted & > appointed guardian to Susannah Douglass, Fanny Douglass, Nancy Douglass and > Younger Douglass minor heirs of Joseph Douglass dec'd > > > > Delived in open Court > > John F. Jack > > Mathew Campbell {Seal} > > William Mitchell {Seal} > > Sam l Peery {Seal} > > > > Entered > > ------------------------ > > then in 1812 > > > > Younger Douglass. 9 yrs. bound to Claiborne Hailey Until 21. Feb 17 > > ------------------------- > > Marr: > > Douglass, John to Rachel West 13 Feb 1827 > > > > Hope this helps, > > Shar > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 6:47 AM > > Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships > > > > > > William, John, Berreman, or Yaunger(!). > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SharR [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 3:36 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships > > > > > > Janice, > > no Fears listed, but several Douglass kids were bound out (Douglas > with 2 ss) what given names are you looking for? > > Sharon > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 8:27 AM > > Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships > > > > > > Are there any FEARS or DUGLASS (DOUGLAS) 1830 or earlier in your > book? > > > > Thanks for your time, > > Janice Pearson > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SharR [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:12 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships > > > > > > > > I have this book and I already looked when you first sent that info > > in....there was nothing on either of those names, sorry > > SharR > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

The William Mitchell mentioned is probably my 5th great grandfather. No clue as to the connection. Conni Mitchell Braun ----- Original Message ----- From: "SharR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:49 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Douglass Apprenticeships > RE: [TNGRAING-L] ApprenticeshipsMathew Campbell > > We Mathew Campbell, William Mitchel & Samuel Peery all of the County of Grainger and state of Tennessee are bound unto David Tate, Noah Jarnagin & William Keith Justice of the County Court to said County in the sum of $700.00 for the benefit of the said minors here after named committed to the tuition of the said Mathew Campbell 1st May 1811. > > Where as the above bounden Mathew Campbell is constituted & appointed guardian to Susannah Douglass, Fanny Douglass, Nancy Douglass and Younger Douglass minor heirs of Joseph Douglass dec'd > > Delived in open Court > John F. Jack > Mathew Campbell {Seal} > William Mitchell {Seal} > Sam l Peery {Seal} > > Entered > ------------------------ > then in 1812 > > Younger Douglass. 9 yrs. bound to Claiborne Hailey Until 21. Feb 17 > ------------------------- > Marr: > Douglass, John to Rachel West 13 Feb 1827 > > Hope this helps, > Shar > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 6:47 AM > Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships > > > William, John, Berreman, or Yaunger(!). > -----Original Message----- > From: SharR [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 3:36 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships > > > Janice, > no Fears listed, but several Douglass kids were bound out (Douglas with 2 ss) what given names are you looking for? > Sharon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 8:27 AM > Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships > > > Are there any FEARS or DUGLASS (DOUGLAS) 1830 or earlier in your book? > > Thanks for your time, > Janice Pearson > > -----Original Message----- > From: SharR [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships > > > > I have this book and I already looked when you first sent that info > in....there was nothing on either of those names, sorry > SharR > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

RE: [TNGRAING-L] ApprenticeshipsMathew Campbell We Mathew Campbell, William Mitchel & Samuel Peery all of the County of Grainger and state of Tennessee are bound unto David Tate, Noah Jarnagin & William Keith Justice of the County Court to said County in the sum of $700.00 for the benefit of the said minors here after named committed to the tuition of the said Mathew Campbell 1st May 1811. Where as the above bounden Mathew Campbell is constituted & appointed guardian to Susannah Douglass, Fanny Douglass, Nancy Douglass and Younger Douglass minor heirs of Joseph Douglass dec'd Delived in open Court John F. Jack Mathew Campbell {Seal} William Mitchell {Seal} Sam l Peery {Seal} Entered ------------------------ then in 1812 Younger Douglass. 9 yrs. bound to Claiborne Hailey Until 21. Feb 17 ------------------------- Marr: Douglass, John to Rachel West 13 Feb 1827 Hope this helps, Shar Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 6:47 AM Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships William, John, Berreman, or Yaunger(!). -----Original Message----- From: SharR [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 3:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships Janice, no Fears listed, but several Douglass kids were bound out (Douglas with 2 ss) what given names are you looking for? Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 8:27 AM Subject: RE: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships Are there any FEARS or DUGLASS (DOUGLAS) 1830 or earlier in your book? Thanks for your time, Janice Pearson -----Original Message----- From: SharR [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Apprenticeships I have this book and I already looked when you first sent that info in....there was nothing on either of those names, sorry SharR

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PS. that awful 1870 census (with all the Initials) shows Absolum Roach & Catherine "Kate" Yates....with a William age 16,(no last name) I had thought he was a Roach, but he probably was Wm Mayes....he isn't their son they were not married that long before 1870, their eldest child is 7... Shar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Heirs of Edward Mayes February 1866 > It has been quite a few tomorrows since I sent the following email to the > list. As I have already told Sharon the these documents shed no further > light on Edward's heirs including young William Mayes son of Edward's second > marriage to Sarah Roach.

Thanks Gail for the added notes... I wonder if Edward Mayes had an actual Will (which may or may not name all heirs?) I have the film with wills after 1852....but no place close to look at it....I have not looked at it for years....and maybe would not have noticed Edward Mayes's will at the time.. or a Probate file somewhere....if he died Intestate (without a will.)..there could be reams of info in those old file box's stored in the old school...that I believe is finally being filmed...and will be available sometime in near future (I hope)..It would be much more detailed info than what shows up in deeds records...William would not show up in deeds records maybe if he was too young to be deeded land... I just had a thought and looked in Apprectieships...I'd seen this before...but now it make sense. Willam Mayes , aged 14 yrs. 8 mos. was bound to Absolum Roach (Sarah's Bro) until 21. on 4 Aug 1868...he may be with them in 1870 census. Shar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Heirs of Edward Mayes February 1866 > It has been quite a few tomorrows since I sent the following email to the > list. As I have already told Sharon the these documents shed no further > light on Edward's heirs including young William Mayes son of Edward's second > marriage to Sarah Roach. > > Anyway entered directly after the deed that I transcribed and sent to the > list (see below) were the following two documents' > > State of Tennessee > Grainger County Personally appeard before Me M. Goldman clerk of the the > county court of said county James G. mayse Hamilton Roach David Yates Mary > kidwell Robert owens and Phebe Mayse part of the within named bargainers > with whom I am personally acquainted and who awknowledged that they Executed > the within Instrument for the purposes therein contained. witness my hand > at aoffices this 13 day of november A. D. 1866. > > M. Goldman clk. > > and Julia C. Roach Elizabeth Yates and nancy owens wives of the said > hamilton Roach david yates and Robert owens having appeared before me > privately and a part from their said husbands and have??? awknowledged the > Execution of said deed to have been done by them freely intentionally and > understandingly without compulsion or constraint from their said husbands > and for the purposes therein Expressed witness M Goldman Clerk of said Court > at office the 13th day of November 1866 > > M. Goldman clk > > Bye for Now > > Gail in MO > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gail Roorda <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 22:07 > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Heirs of Edward Mayes February 1866 > > > > Dear all, > > > > As I said in my last letter to the list re Solomon 1810 census lookup I > have > > had little chance to research. However I did finally get a chance to get a > > photocopy of the document heirs of Edward Mayes from the film I had > ordered > > at the FHC in St. Joe. > > > > You are all forwarned, I trancribed this document fairly rapidly. Usually > I > > spend hours transcribing and carefully checking and rechecking things, but > > |I have tried to be as accurate as I have time to be. <Very Big Grin> > > > > Deed from heirs of Edward Mayes deceased to John Mayes. > > > > We James G. Mayes, Hamilton roach and his wife Caroline Roach formerly > > Caroline Mayse, David yates and his wife Elizabeth Yates formerly > Elizabeth > > Mayse mary Kidwell formerly mary mayse robert owens and his wife nancy > owens > > and Phebe mayse heirs at law of Edward mayse deceased for the > consideration > > of one hundred and fifty dollars paid or ? to be paid the Receipt of which > > is hereby acknowledged have this day bargained sold and conveyed to John > > Mayse and his heirs forever our undivided interest in a certain tract of > > land situate in Grainger County Tennesssee in the 5th Civil District of > > which the said county which the said Edward mayse dide seized adjoining > the > > lands of Samuel Jones John Mayse Enos Hammers and the land formerly owned > by > > s? A Brooks now owned by Absolum Cameron containing twenty??? five acres > > more or less to have and to hold the same the said John mayse and his > heirs > > forever?? do covenant to and with the said John mayse that we are lawfully > > seized of said land havc a good right to convey it and the same is > > unencumbered and we do further covenant that we will ever defend the title > > to said land both in law and Equity witness our hands and seals this > > February 14?? 1866. > > > > It is impossible to reproduce the signatures accurately since the plain > text > > permitted in lists doesn't allow formatting. > > > > The following names were preceeded by acknowlege or various abbreviations > of > > acknowlege with seal afterwards and interspersed with his mark or her mark > > and the marks etc. > > > > The signatotories were James G. Mayes, Hamilton Roach, Julia C. Roach, > David > > Yates, Elizabeth Yates, Mary Kidwell, Robert Owerns, Nancy Owens, Phebe > > Mayse. > > > > More tomorrow, > > > > Gail > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Hey gang, I made one more step back on my Coffeys. My wall had been Elijah Coffey, my great grandfather (you kind Coffey researchers gave me several Elijah's but none were mine). Now if you would, try to tie me in with your line through Elijah's father, SAM or maybe Samuel Coffey. Elijah had a brother named Henry. I have no birth date for Sam But think it would fall into maybe 1850 to 1870. thanking you ahead of time, Randy

It has been quite a few tomorrows since I sent the following email to the list. As I have already told Sharon the these documents shed no further light on Edward's heirs including young William Mayes son of Edward's second marriage to Sarah Roach. Anyway entered directly after the deed that I transcribed and sent to the list (see below) were the following two documents' State of Tennessee Grainger County Personally appeard before Me M. Goldman clerk of the the county court of said county James G. mayse Hamilton Roach David Yates Mary kidwell Robert owens and Phebe Mayse part of the within named bargainers with whom I am personally acquainted and who awknowledged that they Executed the within Instrument for the purposes therein contained. witness my hand at aoffices this 13 day of november A. D. 1866. M. Goldman clk. and Julia C. Roach Elizabeth Yates and nancy owens wives of the said hamilton Roach david yates and Robert owens having appeared before me privately and a part from their said husbands and have??? awknowledged the Execution of said deed to have been done by them freely intentionally and understandingly without compulsion or constraint from their said husbands and for the purposes therein Expressed witness M Goldman Clerk of said Court at office the 13th day of November 1866 M. Goldman clk Bye for Now Gail in MO ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail Roorda <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 22:07 Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Heirs of Edward Mayes February 1866 > Dear all, > > As I said in my last letter to the list re Solomon 1810 census lookup I have > had little chance to research. However I did finally get a chance to get a > photocopy of the document heirs of Edward Mayes from the film I had ordered > at the FHC in St. Joe. > > You are all forwarned, I trancribed this document fairly rapidly. Usually I > spend hours transcribing and carefully checking and rechecking things, but > |I have tried to be as accurate as I have time to be. <Very Big Grin> > > Deed from heirs of Edward Mayes deceased to John Mayes. > > We James G. Mayes, Hamilton roach and his wife Caroline Roach formerly > Caroline Mayse, David yates and his wife Elizabeth Yates formerly Elizabeth > Mayse mary Kidwell formerly mary mayse robert owens and his wife nancy owens > and Phebe mayse heirs at law of Edward mayse deceased for the consideration > of one hundred and fifty dollars paid or ? to be paid the Receipt of which > is hereby acknowledged have this day bargained sold and conveyed to John > Mayse and his heirs forever our undivided interest in a certain tract of > land situate in Grainger County Tennesssee in the 5th Civil District of > which the said county which the said Edward mayse dide seized adjoining the > lands of Samuel Jones John Mayse Enos Hammers and the land formerly owned by > s? A Brooks now owned by Absolum Cameron containing twenty??? five acres > more or less to have and to hold the same the said John mayse and his heirs > forever?? do covenant to and with the said John mayse that we are lawfully > seized of said land havc a good right to convey it and the same is > unencumbered and we do further covenant that we will ever defend the title > to said land both in law and Equity witness our hands and seals this > February 14?? 1866. > > It is impossible to reproduce the signatures accurately since the plain text > permitted in lists doesn't allow formatting. > > The following names were preceeded by acknowlege or various abbreviations of > acknowlege with seal afterwards and interspersed with his mark or her mark > and the marks etc. > > The signatotories were James G. Mayes, Hamilton Roach, Julia C. Roach, David > Yates, Elizabeth Yates, Mary Kidwell, Robert Owerns, Nancy Owens, Phebe > Mayse. > > More tomorrow, > > Gail > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Knoxville, is probably where you want to look, there are some big Libraries there..look online at Knox Co USGENWEB site you should find some info there Shar WA. State ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Marie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] LOCAL NEWSPAPERS > List Readers, > > Now I am runing into trouble - I would like to obtain obits for two specific people and I have dates but am having trouble finding out what papers in your area might have carried your local news so I can order them on microfilm. > > I am after obits for: 1) John HARBIN d Dec 7, 1908 in Hamblen Co., previously of Morristown. and 2) Joseph C. HARBIN d Feb 4, 1898 OR Feb 4, 1894, possibly of May Spring. Bur: Narrow Valley Cemetery in Grainger. > > Can anyone help with a paper name for those dates and who has it? So far I am being directed to Nashville for anything. > > Joan Marie in Oregon > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

List Readers, Now I am runing into trouble - I would like to obtain obits for two specific people and I have dates but am having trouble finding out what papers in your area might have carried your local news so I can order them on microfilm. I am after obits for: 1) John HARBIN d Dec 7, 1908 in Hamblen Co., previously of Morristown. and 2) Joseph C. HARBIN d Feb 4, 1898 OR Feb 4, 1894, possibly of May Spring. Bur: Narrow Valley Cemetery in Grainger. Can anyone help with a paper name for those dates and who has it? So far I am being directed to Nashville for anything. Joan Marie in Oregon

Could someone help me find "ANY" information regarding my GGrandmother's family? I know her mother's name was Sarah Randle(s). I found a Sarah Randles in the Grainger CO, 1880 census along with her husband James E. Randles and three children Eliza, Henrietta, William A. and Nancy M. My GGrandmother's name was Laura and her sister was named Mary....both of these girls were married by 1880 and not listed with their parents.  Would someone be able to find them in an earlier census so I can tie these girls to a family. Laura was married to Richard Haworth in Grainger County, but lived in Jefferson County.....they were listed in Jefferson CO 1880 Census. Mary was married to Calvin McGee and was also listed in the 1880 Jefferson County Census. Thank you for any help ............Pam McCurry

Hi, I'm looking for information on any Sexton from 1840 and earlier. I have been told that a Philipenia Arwine married an Unnamed Sexton and had a daughter named Rebecca Sexton (b. abt. 1813-4) who married Nicholas G. Martin (b. abt. 1810). This may have occurred in Grainger Co. Also, a possible son, Enoch Sexton (b. October 03, 1813) married Sarah Arwine (b. August 27, 1808). Both of these children moved to Lawrence County, Indiana by the 1840s. Any information on Sextons, Arwines, or Martins from this time period would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Yvette Ramsdell Oscoda, MI

Tina: Thank you so very much for the Dalton marriages. I did not realize that there were that many in Grainger County. I am thankful that you could scan them and email them to me. Thank you again for your time and help. Unfortunately, I have not been able to connect them up to any of my Daltons but the list is long and when and if I ever find the siblings for Jesse William Dalton, this information will come in handy. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "R&T_Cooke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger County Marriage and Birth books > Since there are several Dalton's in Gr.......... > I will scan the pages and email them. > > Tina Lephew Cooke > Union Co.TN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shirley Kovar" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:34 PM > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Grainger County Marriage and Birth books > > > > Tina: > > > > I just requested that I would appreciate you doing up any lookups for > marriages and births and unfortunately asked for names that were born in > Ohio but also were raised in Claiborne and Grainger County, Tenn. Sorry for > any mess up but would still like to have you check the surnames for me in > Grainger County. My elusive great great great grandfather, Jesse William > Dalton was born either there or in Claiborne Co., also my great great > grandfather William Clark Meredith Dalton was born on banks of the Clinch > River in Claiborne County. I understand that Grainger was a county that was > made from Claiborne Co., > > > > Hope you can still help me and again sorry for the confusion. > > > > Shirley > > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Tina, the actual census page is so hard to tell what that letter was...could have been a capitol i Shar ----- Original Message ----- From: "R&T_Cooke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] found... P HARBIN > What was throwing me.In my book the initial was J.Harbin > > He lived in between W. & Marthia Sexton > and J.S. & Prisila Gray..... > > > There were several kids in the Sexton home,if you would like the kids > names,just inform me. > > Tina Lephew Cooke > Union Co.TN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SharR" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 3:20 PM > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] found... P HARBIN > > > > okay, pg 56 is in Rutledge...this 1870 is awful to make out... > > > > P(?) Harbin ag 34 Farmer b: TN > > Margerie (?) 28; K. H. b: TN > > John 16 m b: TN > > Willard (MIllard) 14 b: TN > > Lizza 11(?) b: TN > > George 2 b: TN > > Mary J. 1 b: TN > > > > neibors: one side is a > > W. Se? iton 48 > > other side is a: > > J S GRAY ag. 57 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joan Marie" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:05 PM > > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] HARBIN - THANKS > > > > > > > List readers, > > > > > > Just wanted to give you an update on my HARBIN research and a real big > pat > > on the back. I started out with quite abit of info on certain families, > but > > no links between them or to their ancestor. I had more questions than > > answers. Now, thanks to several of you I think I have the total picture on > > HARBIN families in Grainger County, and they might even link to my own. > > Special thanks to the people whose contributions identified Jane & Jacob > as > > orphans, whose death certificate info gave Jacob's parents' names > > (unbelievable luck - any certificates I've gone after had that blank), and > > who gave me so many marriage & death dates. > > > > > > Yes, I have had to depend on others for giving me some of the > information, > > but I've had the fun of putting it together myself - that sure beats > having > > it all handed to me on a silver platter! - or asking others to do the > work. > > > > > > I still have some questions if anyone can help with them. > > > > > > 1) The 1870 census, p 56 is supposed to have a "P." Harbin on it - does > > anyone have access to the 1870 to see who that is? > > > > > > 2) Does anyone have access to the 1840 to see if there are any HARBIN > > names. There should be a "John" but when I checked (probably the A.I.S. > > index) there weren't any, and just now on the Gen Web, there was only a > > HARDIN. That might bear checking out. > > > > > > 3) Do the names Boling & Cheshire run in early (1815-25) Grainger? I > have > > a Sam P. m Elizabeth Cheshire in 1815 & the above John m Linda Boling in > > 1825. I think it would have been John's first marriage. > > > > > > Again, thanks so much to you folks - I couldn't have done it without > you! > > > > > > Joan Marie in Oregon > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

What was throwing me.In my book the initial was J.Harbin He lived in between W. & Marthia Sexton and J.S. & Prisila Gray..... There were several kids in the Sexton home,if you would like the kids names,just inform me. Tina Lephew Cooke Union Co.TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "SharR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 3:20 PM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] found... P HARBIN > okay, pg 56 is in Rutledge...this 1870 is awful to make out... > > P(?) Harbin ag 34 Farmer b: TN > Margerie (?) 28; K. H. b: TN > John 16 m b: TN > Willard (MIllard) 14 b: TN > Lizza 11(?) b: TN > George 2 b: TN > Mary J. 1 b: TN > > neibors: one side is a > W. Se? iton 48 > other side is a: > J S GRAY ag. 57 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joan Marie" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 1:05 PM > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] HARBIN - THANKS > > > > List readers, > > > > Just wanted to give you an update on my HARBIN research and a real big pat > on the back. I started out with quite abit of info on certain families, but > no links between them or to their ancestor. I had more questions than > answers. Now, thanks to several of you I think I have the total picture on > HARBIN families in Grainger County, and they might even link to my own. > Special thanks to the people whose contributions identified Jane & Jacob as > orphans, whose death certificate info gave Jacob's parents' names > (unbelievable luck - any certificates I've gone after had that blank), and > who gave me so many marriage & death dates. > > > > Yes, I have had to depend on others for giving me some of the information, > but I've had the fun of putting it together myself - that sure beats having > it all handed to me on a silver platter! - or asking others to do the work. > > > > I still have some questions if anyone can help with them. > > > > 1) The 1870 census, p 56 is supposed to have a "P." Harbin on it - does > anyone have access to the 1870 to see who that is? > > > > 2) Does anyone have access to the 1840 to see if there are any HARBIN > names. There should be a "John" but when I checked (probably the A.I.S. > index) there weren't any, and just now on the Gen Web, there was only a > HARDIN. That might bear checking out. > > > > 3) Do the names Boling & Cheshire run in early (1815-25) Grainger? I have > a Sam P. m Elizabeth Cheshire in 1815 & the above John m Linda Boling in > 1825. I think it would have been John's first marriage. > > > > Again, thanks so much to you folks - I couldn't have done it without you! > > > > Joan Marie in Oregon > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Dear Sheri, . You said, "I have posted a query to the lists, but have had no response as of yet. This young John could be the son of Big John, or one of the many other Mayes lines in that area. " I would have answered your query earlier if I had figured out what you were getting at..<grin> ie that the John Maze in the 1850 Hancock MIGHT be "Big John" and Nancy's son. I am about 100 percent certain that the John Maze in Hancocke County is NOT John the son of "Big John" and Nancy MAYES MAYES son John. See the Mayes Family Genealogy Board at GenForum http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes/ Read the last line of Larry Hodge's posting dated 07 September 2001. http://genforum.genealogy.com/mayes/messages/1137.html Larry said, "Also from other records, big John had a son John Mayes jr, but i haven't figured out which one he would be - he may be the one who married Mary Hodge(s) or the one that married Margaret Noe." (Actually I am going to narrow it down EVEN further than Larry and say that I believe that Big John and Nancy's son was the one that married Margaret Noe since I think that the John that married Mary Hodges is Edward's son (that's Edward son of Liggen) ie the OTHER Mayes family we have been discussing over the last months. (Shar R. it is good to see you posting to the list!! I am taking steps to do further research into Edward's family. Will write as soon as the materials come in). How can Larry (or I for that matter) narrow it down to these possibilities (and as I said <grin> I believe I can narrow it down even further...)??? Because Big John died intestate and the Grainger County court appointed the administrators. Court appointed administrators quite often a son and a son-in-law (in the case of Big John's estate, his son John Mayes and son-in-law, Marcus L "Mark" Daniel were appointed to administer the estate. These court apponted administrators would have lived in the area (I can't think of a single exception in all of my research). The administrators would have had to have been available to handle the details connected with settling the estate. Bye for Now, Gail in MO