Tracy The 1880 census records are on www.familysearch.org then click on Search and type in name Milly WARD Piros List Rootsweb Administrator for Anderson Co Tn~Campbell Co Tn and Fentress Co Tn <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/millyella/listofpages.html">A List of All My Pages</A> http://www.geocities.com/millyella/listofpages.html Genealogists live in the PAST Lane

The LDS site (www.familysearch.com) has a William P. Boatman b. July 5, 1853 in Grainger Co., Tn to Richard Boatman and Martha J. Western and dying Nov. 20 1922. That site also has the 1880 census so you can search further if the one above isn't it for you. Enjoy Pam

Hello List, I think that every ancestor on my side or my husband's side of the family lived in Grainger County TN at one time. Some of these are people that have not had ties to TN since. It is strange I think. Maybe there is a big part of history that I do not know about re: Grainger County. I would very much appreciate a look up for the Boatman name if anyone has access to a 1880 Census. If there is one! I did not know that they had lived in Grainger. They seem to be in Cass and Morgan Counties IL maybe between 1885 and 1889. I have found a stone that lists some as being from Grainger County TN. William P. Boatman b. 1854 Emma or Emily J. (Don't know maiden name) Boatman b. 1864 I am hoping that they are in the 1880 Census. In the 1910 Census in IL it says that they had been married for 30years and had 11 children, 9 of whom were still living. I do not know Emma/Emily's maiden name. I do not know the parents of William P. Thank you for any assistance. Tracy

Mahala Perrin Parrott was my 3rd great grandfather's second wife! Do you have a copy of the History of Grainger County? It lists a number of Mitchells and Vineyards in it. Betty is Betty Mitchell Vineyard. I just went through the information she provided for the history and can only figure out that she descend from Isaac Mitchell and Sally Nance. Here are the Vineyards currently in my Mitchell History but I don't think I have them all listed. Vineyard Artie spouse of 1.2.6b.1b Elizabeth spouse of 1.3 Ova Bela spouse of 1.2.6b.1a.1 Susannah spouse of 1.2 Are you using a genealogy program? If so, I can download my Mitchell History into a GEDCOM and email it to you. I would love to see yours. Conni ----- Original Message ----- From: "the farm" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Vineyard family > There sure are alot of Vineyards and Mitchells. I have Mitchells from Ada to > Winnie with about 30 or 40 in between. Perrin is another name that Vineyard > is tied in with alot as well. We still have family in Grainger Co and need > to make time to go see them more often. > Who is Betty Vineyard connected to? > Pam > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Conni Braun" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:36 AM > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Vineyard family > > > > Pam - > > > > I would really like to share information with you. Although my main > > research is into the Mitchell family we have Vineyard running though the > > family branches like kudsu! LOL My 4th great grandmother was Susannah > > Vineyard, married to Greenberry Mitchell Sr. She is buried in the > Mitchell > > cemetery in Grainger County near Blaine. And there are several other > > connections including Betty Vineyard who currently lives in Grainger > County. > > > > Conni Mitchell Braun > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "the farm" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:51 AM > > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Vineyard family > > > > > > > Trying to finish up my research on the Vineyard's and have tons of > > information on them and most of the collateral lines. Somewhere there is > a > > Native American connection and I haven't been able to pin it down. > > > Preston Vineyard married twice. His second wife was Elizabeth Coffey. > > The Coffey name appears quite often in the Cherokee rolls so I was > wondering > > if anyone out there who is researching that line could help me clear this > > up. > > > I have been trying to track a Brownlow in Washington Co. figuring that > is > > where the connection is but have come up with nothing there. > > > Is there anyone else researching Native American lines that has found > one > > who married a Vineyard, Brownlow, or Coffey in the area? > > > Would appreciate any help I can get at this point. > > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

There sure are alot of Vineyards and Mitchells. I have Mitchells from Ada to Winnie with about 30 or 40 in between. Perrin is another name that Vineyard is tied in with alot as well. We still have family in Grainger Co and need to make time to go see them more often. Who is Betty Vineyard connected to? Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conni Braun" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Vineyard family > Pam - > > I would really like to share information with you. Although my main > research is into the Mitchell family we have Vineyard running though the > family branches like kudsu! LOL My 4th great grandmother was Susannah > Vineyard, married to Greenberry Mitchell Sr. She is buried in the Mitchell > cemetery in Grainger County near Blaine. And there are several other > connections including Betty Vineyard who currently lives in Grainger County. > > Conni Mitchell Braun > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "the farm" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:51 AM > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Vineyard family > > > > Trying to finish up my research on the Vineyard's and have tons of > information on them and most of the collateral lines. Somewhere there is a > Native American connection and I haven't been able to pin it down. > > Preston Vineyard married twice. His second wife was Elizabeth Coffey. > The Coffey name appears quite often in the Cherokee rolls so I was wondering > if anyone out there who is researching that line could help me clear this > up. > > I have been trying to track a Brownlow in Washington Co. figuring that is > where the connection is but have come up with nothing there. > > Is there anyone else researching Native American lines that has found one > who married a Vineyard, Brownlow, or Coffey in the area? > > Would appreciate any help I can get at this point. > > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************** > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected]

Pam - I would really like to share information with you. Although my main research is into the Mitchell family we have Vineyard running though the family branches like kudsu! LOL My 4th great grandmother was Susannah Vineyard, married to Greenberry Mitchell Sr. She is buried in the Mitchell cemetery in Grainger County near Blaine. And there are several other connections including Betty Vineyard who currently lives in Grainger County. Conni Mitchell Braun ----- Original Message ----- From: "the farm" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:51 AM Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Vineyard family > Trying to finish up my research on the Vineyard's and have tons of information on them and most of the collateral lines. Somewhere there is a Native American connection and I haven't been able to pin it down. > Preston Vineyard married twice. His second wife was Elizabeth Coffey. The Coffey name appears quite often in the Cherokee rolls so I was wondering if anyone out there who is researching that line could help me clear this up. > I have been trying to track a Brownlow in Washington Co. figuring that is where the connection is but have come up with nothing there. > Is there anyone else researching Native American lines that has found one who married a Vineyard, Brownlow, or Coffey in the area? > Would appreciate any help I can get at this point. > Pam > > > > > > ********************************************** > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

I am a Coffey researcher and have much information. If you are able to give me a parameter of dates and any other known information on this Elizabeth, I'll see what I have when I get home from work. Just post back to the list. Sheri the farm <[email protected]> wrote: Trying to finish up my research on the Vineyard's and have tons of information on them and most of the collateral lines. Somewhere there is a Native American connection and I haven't been able to pin it down. Preston Vineyard married twice. His second wife was Elizabeth Coffey. The Coffey name appears quite often in the Cherokee rolls so I was wondering if anyone out there who is researching that line could help me clear this up. I have been trying to track a Brownlow in Washington Co. figuring that is where the connection is but have come up with nothing there. Is there anyone else researching Native American lines that has found one who married a Vineyard, Brownlow, or Coffey in the area? Would appreciate any help I can get at this point. Pam ********************************************** ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

Trying to finish up my research on the Vineyard's and have tons of information on them and most of the collateral lines. Somewhere there is a Native American connection and I haven't been able to pin it down. Preston Vineyard married twice. His second wife was Elizabeth Coffey. The Coffey name appears quite often in the Cherokee rolls so I was wondering if anyone out there who is researching that line could help me clear this up. I have been trying to track a Brownlow in Washington Co. figuring that is where the connection is but have come up with nothing there. Is there anyone else researching Native American lines that has found one who married a Vineyard, Brownlow, or Coffey in the area? Would appreciate any help I can get at this point. Pam **********************************************

I am looking for the date of marriage for Tennessee Mitchell and John Nance. If anyone has the book of Grainger County Marriages I would appreciate a lookup. Tennessee was born on May 18, 1854, Grainger County, Tennessee and died on August 16, 1876, Grainger County, Tennessee. So the marriage was probably in early 1870s. Many thanks. Conni Mitchell Braun

Well folks maybe I have some answers for you...here is what my cousin ( who worked as a nurse at Cox hospital up until just a few short years ago hope it helps. ) Jackie Good to hear from you--RE:Osteopath Hospital--it first was located on the corner of Sunshine and Kings Street in Spfd.  They sold that and did tear it down, but moved to the north side of Springfield.  The Springfield Osteopath Hospital functioned there for a number of years and then was bought out by some Doctors and they renamed it Doctor's Hospital and it changed hands a few times, but is under new management by some other doctors by the same name.  It is listed in the phone book at 2828 N. National with two phone numbers  417-864-9917 or 417-837-4000.  The nursing home sent mother there shortly after the new management was in place last Dec. as that was where her doctor at the time took his patients.  I was at the old Osteopath once or twice when I was young, but I don't remember why--probably when my aunt was there with surgery, but I can't remember for sure--my youngest sister was born there in 1945.  It was probably torn down in the 50's.  Columbia South was a company that came in Spfd and bought the old Community Hospital that was started in the 70's and then Cox South was built just south of that location in the late 80's and when Columbia South got into some financial trouble Cox South bought the whole smear out and now own that section down to Walnut Lawn St.  Mother was over at the Walnut Lawn Long Term Care Section while recovering from her hip surgery in 99-2000.  I don't know of any reason Columbia or Cox would have had any reason to take the old records from the Osteopath Hospital, but one might start with an inquiry with the medical records at the Doctor's Hospital and see if they could refer you to some place that could reveal that to you or they might still be with that hospital????  I would try the last number first as I think that's the main hospital number--I was surprised to see two totally different numbers, but there's also a clinic there and that's probably why they have two numbers.  

Gail, If you would be so kind, I would love to have a copy of of Alga S. Roach's discharge since he is in my direct line. I have not researched his Military history. Thanks Bill Roach ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Dear Betty, > > I was going to send "comments' first, as I did with the previous > transciptions, but since the comments were arriving after the transcriptions > I finally decided to send the transcription and then send the comments on > Alga's discharge later when I had more time. I am still having some > difficulty sending outgoing email. My messages sit in my "outbox" forever > and when they finally go, they go in a batch and thus arrive on the list out > of sequence. > > Re Alga's discharge: A couple of nights ago about midnight I was going to > email a Roach researcher whose address I happen to have (actually by this > time it was more like I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE ..!!! <grin>) and offer to pop a > photocopy of Alga S.'s?? discharge right into the mail so SHE could take a > look at this thing!! (I did get one duplicate of this page for Shar, but > like I said I can easily send copies to any Roach researcher who wants one.) > > I am unable to explain the discrepancy in age (depending on how you READ the > age in this document (but it is definitely "something" two I THINK > twenty???)..maybe the clerk received the wrong information? At first I > assumed the soldiers took the discharges to the Courthouse and had them > recorded. From the filmstrips of various Grainger County records it is . > > > > Sharon, Bill, Anyone .............................? > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > >

Gail and all, I thought, I had copied more than one of the Roach's discharge's but so far all I can find is Anderson J. Roach's so that may be the only one I do have.... Later, Shar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Dear Betty, > > I was going to send "comments' first, as I did with the previous > transciptions, but since the comments were arriving after the transcriptions > I finally decided to send the transcription and then send the comments on > Alga's discharge later when I had more time. I am still having some > difficulty sending outgoing email. My messages sit in my "outbox" forever > and when they finally go, they go in a batch and thus arrive on the list out > of sequence. > > Re Alga's discharge: A couple of nights ago about midnight I was going to > email a Roach researcher whose address I happen to have (actually by this > time it was more like I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE ..!!! <grin>) and offer to pop a > photocopy of Alga S.'s?? discharge right into the mail so SHE could take a > look at this thing!! (I did get one duplicate of this page for Shar, but > like I said I can easily send copies to any Roach researcher who wants one.) > > I am unable to explain the discrepancy in age (depending on how you READ the > age in this document (but it is definitely "something" two I THINK > twenty???)..maybe the clerk received the wrong information? At first I > assumed the soldiers took the discharges to the Courthouse and had them > recorded. From the filmstrips of various Grainger County records it is > obvious there were days when people took documents to the Courthouse and had > them recorded (probably on "court day"). They were apparently charged by > the word. However, I now think that these documents were more likely sent > to the Courthouse to be registered by the army or the Department of War, or > whatever. Why they were entered in the deed books I don't know. Whether or > not Henry Sheperd received the correct information this document is not the > best example of his handwriting. When he writes the word twenty or thirty > it usually is quite clear and distinguishable. Maybe he scribbled this off > in a hurry? The end of a long hard day perhaps? As far as the age goes > maybe he was distracted and wrote down the age on another discharge? The > truth is I was rechecking the document against my transcription and then > noticed that I had picked up the discharge of DANIEL L. Roach. Now I would > never confuse or combine two transcriptions because I always CAREFULLY > check and recheck my transcriptions particularly if they I am sending them > to a list or to a message board. A government official whether county, > state or federal one hundred and fifty years ago would probably not be as > careful or concerned. They would never realize the difference to us many > decades later especially if our ancestors weren't rich and famous and the > records are few. > > Gail > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Betty B <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 06:54 > Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > > > > Hi, Gail - > > > > Thanks for posting these. Yes, there was an Alga S. (Algernon) Roach, but > > according to my information, he was born in 1838 and would have been 26-27 > > years old in 1865. There was another Algernon "Alga" that never used a > > middle initial. I don't have his birthdate. > > > > Alga S., b. 1838, had a brother named Alfred M. I feel the Alfred M. you > > posted on the weekend was the Alfred M., son of John & Sarah Roman(s) > Roach, > > but I'm not sure about this Alga S. > > > > Sharon, Bill, Anyone .............................? > > > > Betty B. > > > > > > From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:36 -0500 > > > > To whom it may concern > > > > Know you that Alga S? Roach 6th? Corporal of Captain Robert O. Wootens > > Company (F) 1st regiment of Tennessee cavalry volunteers who was Enrolled > on > > the first day of March one thousand eight hundred and sixty two to serve > > three years or during the war is hereby discharged from the service of the > > united states this thirthieth day of March 1865 at Nashville Tennessee by > > reason of service No objection to his being reenlisted is known to Exist > > said Alga S.? was born in Grainger County in the state of Tennessee is ??? > > two years of age Five feet nine inches high Light complexion blue eyes > Dark > > hair and by occupation when enrolled a farmer. > > Given at Nashville Tenn this thirthieth day of March 1865 > > > > Robert A. Wooten > > Capt commanding the Co > > > > Received and Registered Sept 22 1866 > > H. Sheperd register > > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > >

Hi, Gail - Bill and I had some conversation about this. You have probably seen that by now. I was just trying to get the information with the right Alga. Thanks, Betty B. From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:37:37 -0500 Dear Betty, I was going to send "comments' first, as I did with the previous transciptions, but since the comments were arriving after the transcriptions I finally decided to send the transcription and then send the comments on Alga's discharge later when I had more time. I am still having some difficulty sending outgoing email. My messages sit in my "outbox" forever and when they finally go, they go in a batch and thus arrive on the list out of sequence. Re Alga's discharge: A couple of nights ago about midnight I was going to email a Roach researcher whose address I happen to have (actually by this time it was more like I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE ..!!! <grin>) and offer to pop a photocopy of Alga S.'s?? discharge right into the mail so SHE could take a look at this thing!! (I did get one duplicate of this page for Shar, but like I said I can easily send copies to any Roach researcher who wants one.) I am unable to explain the discrepancy in age (depending on how you READ the age in this document (but it is definitely "something" two I THINK twenty???)..maybe the clerk received the wrong information? At first I assumed the soldiers took the discharges to the Courthouse and had them recorded. From the filmstrips of various Grainger County records it is obvious there were days when people took documents to the Courthouse and had them recorded (probably on "court day"). They were apparently charged by the word. However, I now think that these documents were more likely sent to the Courthouse to be registered by the army or the Department of War, or whatever. Why they were entered in the deed books I don't know. Whether or not Henry Sheperd received the correct information this document is not the best example of his handwriting. When he writes the word twenty or thirty it usually is quite clear and distinguishable. Maybe he scribbled this off in a hurry? The end of a long hard day perhaps? As far as the age goes maybe he was distracted and wrote down the age on another discharge? The truth is I was rechecking the document against my transcription and then noticed that I had picked up the discharge of DANIEL L. Roach. Now I would never confuse or combine two transcriptions because I always CAREFULLY check and recheck my transcriptions particularly if they I am sending them to a list or to a message board. A government official whether county, state or federal one hundred and fifty years ago would probably not be as careful or concerned. They would never realize the difference to us many decades later especially if our ancestors weren't rich and famous and the records are few. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty B <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 06:54 Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Hi, Gail - > > Thanks for posting these. Yes, there was an Alga S. (Algernon) Roach, but > according to my information, he was born in 1838 and would have been 26-27 > years old in 1865. There was another Algernon "Alga" that never used a > middle initial. I don't have his birthdate. > > Alga S., b. 1838, had a brother named Alfred M. I feel the Alfred M. you > posted on the weekend was the Alfred M., son of John & Sarah Roman(s) Roach, > but I'm not sure about this Alga S. > > Sharon, Bill, Anyone .............................? > > Betty B. > > > From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:36 -0500 > > To whom it may concern > > Know you that Alga S? Roach 6th? Corporal of Captain Robert O. 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Hi Gail, I am a cousin to Shar, or Sharon....my great grandmother was Norah I.A. Roach, and have been searching for anyone who has anything on her...she died at a very early age, was thirty. She was married to Jesse Montgomery Humble and they had my grandmother, Ollie May ( Humble ) Felton...I think I finally have found someone who can perhaps help me...she left a message on one of the geneolgoy websites and I contacted her...she is currently gone to Montana, where my Norah's sisters lived...and she is taking some copies of unknown ancestors in hopes that someone might be able to identify some of them...I am looking for ANYONE who can tell me anything about her...my goal is to maybe get a copy of a photo of her....I might have one and I don't know it...I am sure everyone has some photo's that no one wrote on....I do anyway...but if ever you run into anything about Norah Isabel Aldine Roach, please let me know....I have really not much on her at all....I do know that she had a darker tone skin, olive I am assumeing, long black hair...that is about all I know...I do have her birth and death dates if you want me to look those up and send to you...she died in 1900 that I do remember without looking it up...so like I said, if you or anyone else out there runs into anything about my Norah, I would appreciate hearing about it... Thanks so much, Jackie

Thanks, Bill. I needed some confirmation that my thinking was right, and I was writing from memory, not from my "record." I couldn't recall off-hand just who the other Alga belonged to. As Gail's transcription indicates he was age ____ two in 1865, I didn't think it was the Alga S., brother to Alfred M. Betty B. From: "Bill Roach" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:55:56 -0500 Hi Gail, Betty B & List, Betty, in regard to your response, I agree that Alfred M. that was posted was the son of John & Sarah Roman Roach. However, there are two Algernon S Roach's that were born about 3 years apart. The one you mention, Algernon (Alga ) brother of Alfred M. was born in 1838 according to my records also. However, my Great Grandfather, Alfred Roach, born 1810 in Grainger Co.- first married Jane McDaniel. Their first born was Algernon S. Roach- born 1835. Although even this date doesn't match perfectly. it is possible Algernon S ( Alga ) was born in 1834. I almost certain this date came from 1850 census- and you know how one can be off a year or so on any census. In fact, my Grandfather was listed on 1860 census as being 5 years old- Henry Dawson Roach.-Grainger CO., TN I think everyone still uses that date of 1855 for his birth, but he was born April 11, 1853. I still can't get people to change that on their web sites. At any rate, I believe the Alga S. Roach that Gail listed information on is this Alga- son of Alfred & Jane McDaniel. I know from family history he served in the Civil War. There are other Alga's, but was born later. I think I have two others that I took pictures of their head stones while in Grainger Co in 2000. One was born in the 1870.s- and another- Alga -b. Sept5, 1891 I think this should clear up who this Alga is. Bill Roach ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty B" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Hi, Gail - > > Thanks for posting these. Yes, there was an Alga S. (Algernon) Roach, but > according to my information, he was born in 1838 and would have been 26-27 > years old in 1865. There was another Algernon "Alga" that never used a > middle initial. I don't have his birthdate. > > Alga S., b. 1838, had a brother named Alfred M. I feel the Alfred M. you > posted on the weekend was the Alfred M., son of John & Sarah Roman(s) Roach, > but I'm not sure about this Alga S. > > Sharon, Bill, Anyone .............................? > > Betty B. > > > From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:36 -0500 > > To whom it may concern > > Know you that Alga S? Roach 6th? Corporal of Captain Robert O. Wootens > Company (F) 1st regiment of Tennessee cavalry volunteers who was Enrolled on > the first day of March one thousand eight hundred and sixty two to serve > three years or during the war is hereby discharged from the service of the > united states this thirthieth day of March 1865 at Nashville Tennessee by > reason of service No objection to his being reenlisted is known to Exist > said Alga S.? was born in Grainger County in the state of Tennessee is ??? > two years of age Five feet nine inches high Light complexion blue eyes Dark > hair and by occupation when enrolled a farmer. > Given at Nashville Tenn this thirthieth day of March 1865 > > Robert A. Wooten > Capt commanding the Co > > Received and Registered Sept 22 1866 > H. Sheperd register > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Dear Betty, I was going to send "comments' first, as I did with the previous transciptions, but since the comments were arriving after the transcriptions I finally decided to send the transcription and then send the comments on Alga's discharge later when I had more time. I am still having some difficulty sending outgoing email. My messages sit in my "outbox" forever and when they finally go, they go in a batch and thus arrive on the list out of sequence. Re Alga's discharge: A couple of nights ago about midnight I was going to email a Roach researcher whose address I happen to have (actually by this time it was more like I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE ..!!! <grin>) and offer to pop a photocopy of Alga S.'s?? discharge right into the mail so SHE could take a look at this thing!! (I did get one duplicate of this page for Shar, but like I said I can easily send copies to any Roach researcher who wants one.) I am unable to explain the discrepancy in age (depending on how you READ the age in this document (but it is definitely "something" two I THINK twenty???)..maybe the clerk received the wrong information? At first I assumed the soldiers took the discharges to the Courthouse and had them recorded. From the filmstrips of various Grainger County records it is obvious there were days when people took documents to the Courthouse and had them recorded (probably on "court day"). They were apparently charged by the word. However, I now think that these documents were more likely sent to the Courthouse to be registered by the army or the Department of War, or whatever. Why they were entered in the deed books I don't know. Whether or not Henry Sheperd received the correct information this document is not the best example of his handwriting. When he writes the word twenty or thirty it usually is quite clear and distinguishable. Maybe he scribbled this off in a hurry? The end of a long hard day perhaps? As far as the age goes maybe he was distracted and wrote down the age on another discharge? The truth is I was rechecking the document against my transcription and then noticed that I had picked up the discharge of DANIEL L. Roach. Now I would never confuse or combine two transcriptions because I always CAREFULLY check and recheck my transcriptions particularly if they I am sending them to a list or to a message board. A government official whether county, state or federal one hundred and fifty years ago would probably not be as careful or concerned. They would never realize the difference to us many decades later especially if our ancestors weren't rich and famous and the records are few. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty B <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 06:54 Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Hi, Gail - > > Thanks for posting these. Yes, there was an Alga S. (Algernon) Roach, but > according to my information, he was born in 1838 and would have been 26-27 > years old in 1865. There was another Algernon "Alga" that never used a > middle initial. I don't have his birthdate. > > Alga S., b. 1838, had a brother named Alfred M. I feel the Alfred M. you > posted on the weekend was the Alfred M., son of John & Sarah Roman(s) Roach, > but I'm not sure about this Alga S. > > Sharon, Bill, Anyone .............................? > > Betty B. > > > From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:36 -0500 > > To whom it may concern > > Know you that Alga S? Roach 6th? Corporal of Captain Robert O. Wootens > Company (F) 1st regiment of Tennessee cavalry volunteers who was Enrolled on > the first day of March one thousand eight hundred and sixty two to serve > three years or during the war is hereby discharged from the service of the > united states this thirthieth day of March 1865 at Nashville Tennessee by > reason of service No objection to his being reenlisted is known to Exist > said Alga S.? was born in Grainger County in the state of Tennessee is ??? > two years of age Five feet nine inches high Light complexion blue eyes Dark > hair and by occupation when enrolled a farmer. > Given at Nashville Tenn this thirthieth day of March 1865 > > Robert A. Wooten > Capt commanding the Co > > Received and Registered Sept 22 1866 > H. Sheperd register > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] >

Hi Gail, Betty B & List, Betty, in regard to your response, I agree that Alfred M. that was posted was the son of John & Sarah Roman Roach. However, there are two Algernon S Roach's that were born about 3 years apart. The one you mention, Algernon (Alga ) brother of Alfred M. was born in 1838 according to my records also. However, my Great Grandfather, Alfred Roach, born 1810 in Grainger Co.- first married Jane McDaniel. Their first born was Algernon S. Roach- born 1835. Although even this date doesn't match perfectly. it is possible Algernon S ( Alga ) was born in 1834. I almost certain this date came from 1850 census- and you know how one can be off a year or so on any census. In fact, my Grandfather was listed on 1860 census as being 5 years old- Henry Dawson Roach.-Grainger CO., TN I think everyone still uses that date of 1855 for his birth, but he was born April 11, 1853. I still can't get people to change that on their web sites. At any rate, I believe the Alga S. Roach that Gail listed information on is this Alga- son of Alfred & Jane McDaniel. I know from family history he served in the Civil War. There are other Alga's, but was born later. I think I have two others that I took pictures of their head stones while in Grainger Co in 2000. One was born in the 1870.s- and another- Alga -b. Sept5, 1891 I think this should clear up who this Alga is. Bill Roach ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty B" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Hi, Gail - > > Thanks for posting these. Yes, there was an Alga S. (Algernon) Roach, but > according to my information, he was born in 1838 and would have been 26-27 > years old in 1865. There was another Algernon "Alga" that never used a > middle initial. I don't have his birthdate. > > Alga S., b. 1838, had a brother named Alfred M. I feel the Alfred M. you > posted on the weekend was the Alfred M., son of John & Sarah Roman(s) Roach, > but I'm not sure about this Alga S. > > Sharon, Bill, Anyone .............................? > > Betty B. > > > From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:36 -0500 > > To whom it may concern > > Know you that Alga S? Roach 6th? Corporal of Captain Robert O. Wootens > Company (F) 1st regiment of Tennessee cavalry volunteers who was Enrolled on > the first day of March one thousand eight hundred and sixty two to serve > three years or during the war is hereby discharged from the service of the > united states this thirthieth day of March 1865 at Nashville Tennessee by > reason of service No objection to his being reenlisted is known to Exist > said Alga S.? was born in Grainger County in the state of Tennessee is ??? > two years of age Five feet nine inches high Light complexion blue eyes Dark > hair and by occupation when enrolled a farmer. > Given at Nashville Tenn this thirthieth day of March 1865 > > Robert A. Wooten > Capt commanding the Co > > Received and Registered Sept 22 1866 > H. Sheperd register > > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] > > >

Hi, Gail - Thanks for posting these. Yes, there was an Alga S. (Algernon) Roach, but according to my information, he was born in 1838 and would have been 26-27 years old in 1865. There was another Algernon "Alga" that never used a middle initial. I don't have his birthdate. Alga S., b. 1838, had a brother named Alfred M. I feel the Alfred M. you posted on the weekend was the Alfred M., son of John & Sarah Roman(s) Roach, but I'm not sure about this Alga S. Sharon, Bill, Anyone .............................? Betty B. From: "Gail Roorda" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [TNGRAING-L] Alga S. Roach?? Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:06:36 -0500 To whom it may concern Know you that Alga S? Roach 6th? Corporal of Captain Robert O. Wootens Company (F) 1st regiment of Tennessee cavalry volunteers who was Enrolled on the first day of March one thousand eight hundred and sixty two to serve three years or during the war is hereby discharged from the service of the united states this thirthieth day of March 1865 at Nashville Tennessee by reason of service No objection to his being reenlisted is known to Exist said Alga S.? was born in Grainger County in the state of Tennessee is ??? two years of age Five feet nine inches high Light complexion blue eyes Dark hair and by occupation when enrolled a farmer. Given at Nashville Tenn this thirthieth day of March 1865 Robert A. Wooten Capt commanding the Co Received and Registered Sept 22 1866 H. Sheperd register ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

I am searching for information on the Lydia Saunders/Sanders family that lived for a period of time in Grainger Co. Lydia Saunders/Sanders, b abt 1786 in NC, married first a Wilson whose first name I don't know. At some point, they moved to Claiborne Co. They had a son, Benjamin Ajax Wilson who later took the surname of his step-father, John Robert Rice who lived in Claiborne Co. By family tradition, Benjamin Ajax Wilson/Rice married 1- Mrs. Vitittoe. I've run across the Vitittoe name in Grainger Co. BA Wilson/Rice married 2- Zelphia McFetridge whose family was from Grainger Co. They probably married in either Grainger Co or Anderson Co. BA Wilson/Rice and Zelphia moved to Harlan Co KY where he was a great landowner, millwright, builder, and Mason in Harlan Co and the area that later became Bell Co. It's believed he legally changed his name to Rice in about 1850 around the time he and Zelphia divorced. He married 3- Lutissia Tabitha Miller in 1860 of Knox Co KY, and after se! lling his property on St Creek they moved to Tazewell, Claiborne Co, TN where he died. He's buried in the Irish cemetery. He was quite a prolific man and is said to have fathered 21 or so children, w/ some being out of wedlock. I would appreciate any information at all on this family!

Hi Pam, I just got home at 4:30 pm today. Very tired too. Traffic was moving good. Some "BEARS" out doing their jobs, not too many tho. I got stung 8 times by yellow jackets Saturday, I've endured the trauma, but am going to my Dr. tomorrow to make sure I'm Ok. I thank you so much for the invite to the reunion, I surely enjoyed it. The very best was the cemetery. I talked with a friend and when I get down there permanently, we will go to the cemetery and clean a little at a time until we can get it cleared off. Do you intend to come back to Tn? We will have to do some more grave searching. Our cousin "Bill" (Mollie) enjoyed the reunion also, she said that was the longest she had been on an outing since her operation last July. With her age too, it took a tole on her. But she was glad she went. Will talk to you when I rest up. Thanks again for a real good day. Love, Mickey [email protected] wrote: Could someone help me find "ANY" information regarding my GGrandmother's family? I know her mother's name was Sarah Randle(s). I found a Sarah Randles in the Grainger CO, 1880 census along with her husband James E. Randles and three children Eliza, Henrietta, William A. and Nancy M. My GGrandmother's name was Laura and her sister was named Mary....both of these girls were married by 1880 and not listed with their parents. Would someone be able to find them in an earlier census so I can tie these girls to a family. Laura was married to Richard Haworth in Grainger County, but lived in Jefferson County.....they were listed in Jefferson CO 1880 Census. Mary was married to Calvin McGee and was also listed in the 1880 Jefferson County Census. Thank you for any help ............Pam McCurry ==== TNGRAING Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE please send your message to [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!