Diane, It appears that Ginny, all the way in Las Vegas, is an earlier riser than I this morning. I will try to answer some of your questions on the Warren line which she did not cover and offer an exception or two along the way. Early in my research I too wondered if Crawford White in the 1850 LCT census was a misspelling of my Carr Bailey White, however I came to realize that he was a different White. Why C.B. and wife Martha are not listed in the !850 census I do not know. He was a Justice of Peace from about 1854 to 1859 when he moved to north Limestone County Ala. He performed about a dozen marriages as listed in the marriage book for LCT. I have not yet found any proof as to the father of William R Warren. Some say his father was John, others Henry and again Willis. The John who was killed about 1820 does not appear to have children other than those by Courtney Lewis "with whom" as he said in his 12 June 1820 willl, "I have lived for several years." He adds: "Seven children--three boys and four girls which I believe are mine begotten on her body." These were minors and were placed by the court under the guardianship of Henry Warren and Willis Warren. I find no evidence that William R Warren was the son of John Warren and Nancy Ann Bradford, who had a son William B. This son was born in 1813 in Bedford County Tenn. and his family is given by various ones totally different from that of my William R Warren. Henry Warren had a son William born 9 May 1802 but reports of this family do not allow for him to be my William R. Willis Warren died about 1829. Henry Warren made an inventory of his personal property which was recorded 14 Sept. 1829. In this report he wrote concerning his horses: "one of them a grey horse claimed by Wm Warren a son of the dec." This is evidence that Willis had a son named William. This son could have been my William R. The name Willis continued to be used by the descendants of William R. My ggrandparents, Carr Bailey White and Martha Warren, named their third child Willis Warren White. Until I see proof to the contrary, I am proceeding on the hypothesis that the father of William R Warren was Willis Warren. It has been listed that Sarah, the wife of William R Warren, was a Polk. However, I have not been able to discover any evidence at all to support this assumption. William R and Sarah had a daughter Sarah who married William Polk 28 Dec.1843. The 1850 LCT census lists this William Polk and wife Sarah living with Sarah Warren widow of William R. It may be that some one mixed up the two Sarahs and put Sarah wife of William R as a Polk instead of her daughter. I just do not know the maiden name of Sarah Warren. Now as to the marriage of William Warren to Sarah Wilkerson 6 Feb. 1838 you may be correct in thinking that this is the son of William R and Sarah. However, there are three other William Warrens who married in 41,42,43. One who married Elizabeth Burns was the son of Daniel Warren. My grandmother, whom I remember well as she made her home with us until her death in 1946, was the youngest child of Carr Bailey White and Martha Warren. Her mother died when she was very young. Her father married again 16 Oct. 1859. Mammy, as we called my grandmotlher, first married Columbus Lafayette Thomas and second Robert Campbell Abernathy. I trust that this will add light to the issue, not heat. Jim Thomas. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Casey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]>TNLINCOL Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:01 PM Subject: Re: Warren Family > Jim- > I read your post about the Warren's and I know there are a lot of Warren > researchers reading this post, please help out if you can. > > I was wondering if the missing Martha Warren-White on the 1850 census > might be Martha wife of Crawford B. White in HH 715? I know the names are > not quite right but maybe? Right next to them are Thomas White in 716 and > Lucinda White in 717. > > In the LCT Pioneers Vol. III, No. 2 page 28 there is an obituary for Mrs. > Martha White, wife of C. B. White b. 05/26/1817 m. 02/18/1836 - > Methodist - died 02/13/1857. Is this your Martha? Any one out there with > Methodist church records ever see Carr White listed as Crawford? What > about in the marriage record. > > Another puzzle I have is the notation the annotated 1850 census that > William Warren married Sarah Wilkerson 02/05/1838 which is after his > supposed death date and certainly would not make her the mother of the > children. Could this be a marriage for another William Warren? However > there is a Notley Wilkerson just 2 households over from the Warren > household so it would seem they are somewhat related. > > Diane Casey