Looking for info. on Earnest J. KING b. 1871 Pulaski, Giles Co., TN and William Wyatt KING b. 1876 Pulaski, Giles Co., TN. Father was John H. KING b. May 1847 AL and Mother was Isabella (CURTIS) KING b. ??, where?? They were married in Fayetteville Lincoln Co., TN Dec. 1869. Any info. would be appreciated. CURTIS, GATLIN, HALE, IRVIN, KING, MCCRACKEN, STROUD, STUBBLEFIELD. Kathy rdrwebster@aol.com

Does anyone have a releatively recent Minor Hill vicinity phone book they'd be willing to send me? I'd be willing to reimburse for the postage. Also, is there a particular newspaper which covers the Minor Hill area? If so, can someone supply the address? Finally, a few weeks ago a kind lady from Atlanta who subscribes to this list sent me copies of some old Giles Co. maps. I need to pay her $6.00 for the copies & postage, but have misplaced both the letter she sent and the envelope the maps were mailed in. Hence, I need her name and address if anyone can help. Thanks. Jim Davis

Hi Gang, Todays update uncludes: A Civil War link (under Confederate Troops) to Camp Morton Records Addition to the 1875 marriage records (Linda clayton) New lookup volunteer (Odessa Isbell) Revised Giles Co Hist Soc Section with T of C of recent quarterly bulletins Thanx everyone Dave icq#4202467

Looking for information on John WELLS m. Hannah LIVINGSTON Montgomery Co., KY in 1799 and thought to be in Giles Co. by Dec. 1817. May have a brother and family, William WELLS, who migrated with them. Elijah BENNETT, b. 1801 GA, m. Sarah WELLS b. 1802 KY. Sarah and Elijah's sons Hyram (1831) and Wiley (1833) BENNETT were both born in TN, assume Giles Co. Sarah and Elijah were in AL by 1835, and in Tippah Co., MS by 1843. Any information on the above families will be greatly appreciated. Bettie Goldman egoldman@cris.com

William LEE was "of Giles Co., TN" in 1815 when he purchased land "on Richland Creek of the Elk River, just south of Cave (Cove?) Springs Branch." His will was registred 1829 Giles Co. No dower rights , so assume his wife preceded him in death. Children in his will were William W., Edward, Strother, b. 1805 SC, Nancy m. Jacob EITELL, Tempy m. Britton SIMMONS, Cynthia m. James R. HARRELL, and Fannie m. Thomas CHAPMAN. Who was William LEE's wife? Does anyone have any information on Strother LEE's siblings? Anyone know from where in SC this family might have come? Bettie Goldman egoldman@cris.com

RE: Another Genealogy Bug Have you seen this one?? >WARNING: Very Contagious to Adults!! >Symptoms: Continual complaint as to need for names, dates, and places. >Patient has blank expression, some times deaf to spouse and children and grandchildren. Has no taste for work of any kind except feverishly looking through records at libraries and court houses. Has compulsion to write letters. Swears at mailman when he doesn't leave mail. Frequents strange places, such as cemeteries, ruins, and remote desolate country areas. Makes secret night calls. Hides phone bill from spouse. Mumbles to self. Has strange faraway look in eyes. > >NO KNOWN CURE: Medication is useless Disease is not fatal but gets >progressively worse. Patient should attend genealogy work-shops, subscribe to genealogy magazines and be given a quiet corner in the house where they can be alone. > >REMARKS: The usual nature of this disease is "The Sicker the patient gets, the more they enjoy it".

Robert DAVIS and wife Margaret and their children Nathaniel C., Malcom J., Julia C. J.W.P., Zachary A. Josephine DAVIS are listed on the 1850 Giles Tennessee census. Daughters Julia and Josephine appear on the 1860 census in the household of Ruth Davis, (Rutha M. Lee) who married Robert Davis in 1854. I would like to learn more about the family of Robert and Margaret DAVIS and who their children married. Anyone with a connection out there? - Sherry

Hi Folks, Todays updates include: Photo of Wade and Amelia Barrett by Carol Sue Gibbs Cemetery listings for Bassham,Hickman, Osborn/Osborne/Osburn Dave icq#4202467

>Who can help with any of this line of CRABB?? Stephen had bro Joseph born 1772 from whom I am directly descended. Father of Stephen and Joseph was Joseph born 1740-49 Va died 1798 Grainger co. Tn. Anyone out there in cyberspace researching Joseph b 1772 and/or Stephen born 1778/9 > >Thnx. much. Mary ellen@airmail.net > >Descendants of Stephen Crabb > > 1 Stephen Crabb b: 1778 in Va d: 1857-1860 in Limestone Co. Al >.. +Delila Daniel b: Unknown in ? d: Unknown m: August 18, 1798 in Rutledge, Grainger Co. Tn. Father: Mother: Fact 1: per chart of Jack D.Crabb in Tx. > *2nd Wife of Stephen Crabb: >.. +Mary ? b: 1793 in Va d: Unknown m: Abt 1809 in ? Father: Mother: >......... 2 Napoleon Bonapart Crabb b: 1808 d: February 22, 1879 in Garland Co. Ar Fact 1: 1850 & 1860 census of Dallas Co. Ar Fact 2: In Limestone Co. Al. 1830 census >............. +Mary Waller Trammell b: 1819-1820 in Ar d: Unknown m: Abt 1835 in Ar Father: David Trammell Mother: Lucretia Mc Donald >......... 2 Aladedenia Crabb b: 1810-1815 >............. +Josiah P. Coffman m: February 03, 1836 in Limestone Co. Al. Father: Mother: Fact 1: possibly related to Henderson Coffman. >......... 2 Elzira Crabb b: 1815-1820 >............. +Joseph Bradley m: October 26, 1843 in Limestone Co. Al. Father: Mother: >......... 2 Phelps Crabb b: 1821 in White Co. Tn d: Aft 1848 in Limestone Co. Al Fact 1: 1850 Federal census of Limestone Co. Al >............. +Mahala ? b: in SC m: Abt 1839 Father: Mother: Fact 1: or Makota >......... 2 John Lowry Crabb b: May 08, 1824 in White Co. Tn d: 1890-1895 in Giles Co. Tn. >............. +Sarah Jane Snipes b: June 12, 1831 in Giles Co. Tn. d: March 27, 1907 in Kosse, Tx. Limestone Co. m: August 13, 1846 in Athena, Al. Limestone Co. Father: John Snipes Mother: Nancy Atkins Fact 1: Brd. Eutaw Cem. Kosse, Tx.Limestone Co. >......... 2 Freelin Crabb b: December 22, 1825 in White Co. Tn d: February 26, 1894 in Pulaski, TN. Giles Co. >............. +Mary Elizabeth Snipes b: March 01, 1829 in Tn d: July 06, 1919 in Tn m: December 16, 1846 in Limestone Co. Al Father: John Snipes Mother: Mary ? >......... 2 Samuel Crabb b: 1830 in Limestone Co. Al d: June 27, 1862 in Gaines Mill, Hanover Co. VA >......... 2 Permelia A Crabb b: 1842 in Limestone Co. Al. >

Rob, Your note about caves is very interesting to me. Especially since yesterday, when I was told by a cousin that our ancestors supposedly scratched their names into a cave in Giles county and I told him I would see if I could find any TN cave explorers on internet. He said that the story is passed down in our LEE family that all the oldtimers in the family had scratched their names into a cave wall on the old LEE home place in Giles county. The first LEE in our line, John, came to Giles county about 1812 and supposedly had an estate named 'Vine Bower'. My cousin has done some deed research and thinks he knows where the land is and says that the people around there say that there are two caves there. Can you help me find any new or old cave explorers in the Giles county area? Thanks, Henry P Mayo (HPMayo@Juno.com, HPMayo@Prodigy.net for attachments) College Station, TX > >Good afternoon list on this happy raining July 3rd. Myself and >another, >Lynn Roebuck at pretzlgirl@cafes.net are researching Civil War >Saltpeter >caves and miners in the middle Tennessee area. We certainly would >appreciate information to add to our small data relative to any >saltpeter caves and or known miners. Our data base which is just a >bunch of references scattered all over in two houses is growing slowly >but surely. > >Throughout genealogy references, should you run across any, we >certainly >would appreciate them especially from the Bedford, Marshall, Giles, >Hickman and Maury County areas. > >Often when visiting these caves we locate names and dates smoked onto >the walls and ceilings. Many times, this is the only references we >have >to go on. One would be amazed at what we find in caves. Check out my >WEB Page below and be astounded. > >Thanking you in advance for your contributions and cooperation in >advance. > >Rob Robbins >Southport Chronic Cavers >Columbia, TN _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi Folks, Todays update includes: Photos of McCollum & Joines submitted by Carol Sue Gibbs Research notes on Kennemer, Crabb, Grubb, Kiddy, Moore submitted by Brenda Barfield. (Look in Research Aids/Other Help) Thanks Carol and Brenda Dave icq#4202467

Hi, I'm looking for info on the family of a James HIGGINS who died in the late 1850's, his widow Mary (and a previous wife who was Mary's sister) who died a few years later. The estate was considerable, apparently, and apparently was in and out of Giles courts for years. The family included, as near as I can tell, Robert S. HIGGINS, David M. HIGGINS, Andre J. HIGGINS, Benjamin HIGGINS, Samuel A., Henry C. HIGGINS, Angeline HIGGINS, Betsey SMITH, Mary Jane JONES or JAMES, Sarah JONES, Martha M. GARRISON, Josephine A. HIGGINS, Margaret YOUNG, Eliza JONES, Joanna WHITE and James B. HIGGINS, among many others. Welcome any info or corrections, especially anything about Mary Jane. Many family members migrated to northern Mississippi and to Texas.

Good afternoon list on this happy raining July 3rd. Myself and another, Lynn Roebuck at pretzlgirl@cafes.net are researching Civil War Saltpeter caves and miners in the middle Tennessee area. We certainly would appreciate information to add to our small data relative to any saltpeter caves and or known miners. Our data base which is just a bunch of references scattered all over in two houses is growing slowly but surely. Throughout genealogy references, should you run across any, we certainly would appreciate them especially from the Bedford, Marshall, Giles, Hickman and Maury County areas. Often when visiting these caves we locate names and dates smoked onto the walls and ceilings. Many times, this is the only references we have to go on. One would be amazed at what we find in caves. Check out my WEB Page below and be astounded. Thanking you in advance for your contributions and cooperation in advance. Rob Robbins Southport Chronic Cavers Columbia, TN http://www.angelfire.com/tn/southportcavers

Hello All: Every list needs to recieve this information. I am passing it along to those who are interested. Because of the actions taken by a certain individual some record that researchers need is sitting in a city dump! I hope this doesn't happen in other cities too. How Awful, Lynn Lynn Roebuck pretzlgirl@cafes.net ========================================================== > > >I thought this might be of interest to anyone with VA ancestors. > > >People > > >like this need to be stopped, and we all need to ensure that this type > > >of thing NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. > > > > > >Sheila I Hale > > >Fort McMurray,AB,Canada > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > >Please forward the news of this Marion County, West Virginia > > >travesty to every > > >genealogy group or historical society that you belong to. Also, if > > >you have > > > any > > >media contacts or government contacts please forward this > > >information to them. > > >Let's make Cody Starcher infamous! > > > > > > From: Pam Mullinax > > >E-Mail: pmullinax@mindspring.com > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > > >Fairmont -- Leatherbound books recording transactions between 1842 to > > >1880 have been important to local genealogist, but now the historical > > >books are gone - buried with the five bins of trash the Marion County > > >Commission hauled away from the Jacob's building last week. > > > > > >Along with books were, boxes and files of papers dating back to Marion > > >County's inception in 1942. There were five floors that had books, > > >boxes > > >and files to be removed. > > > > > >Some of the books were Wills; others were Justice of the Peace > > >books. > > >There may have been other records, but the article didn't say what > > >all > > >had been destoyed, because they didn't know. The article was a large > > >article for the paper. The historical and genealogical societies were > > >NOT notified that the county had planned to discard the handwritten > > >record books, files and other etcs. > > > > > >It seems the decision was made by the county commissioners (namely, > > >Cody > > >Starcher) to clear out several floors from the Jacobs building > > >(scheduled > > >for renovation) in which these historical documents were stored. They > > >decided on their own that no one would want to go through all the > > >files to > > >separate out the salvagable and so decided to not tell anyone. > > >They then > > >had the local garbage collectors come and clear out the books and > > >documents. > > > > > >************* > > > > > >The story about the above first appeared in the Times West Virginian > > >(Fairmont, WV)Sunday,June 21, 1998. On Thursday, June 25, 1998 the > > >below follow-up story was published. > > > > > >* * * > > >Dump off limits to historians > > > > > >By Theresa Haynes > > >Times West Virginian Staff Writer > > > > > >FAIRMONT - > > >Genealogists who wanted to dig through the landfill in search of the > > >county's discarded pre-Civil War record books will not be allowed to > > >excavate the dump.   Ron Chrislip, a local historian who has > > >researched > > >Marion County's past for more than 30 years, said he and four other > > >people > > >were prepared to go to the Meadowfill Landfill in Bridgeport to > > >search for > > >the record books tossed last week. > > > > > >But landfill officials halted the group's plans at the request of the > > >Marion County Commission. > > > > > >The day books dating back to 1842 were among several tons of outdated > > >files, books and papers the commission removed from the historic > > >Jacob's > > >building, which is undergoing renovation. > > > > > >Chrislip said he and other genealogists wanted to dig up the > > >historically > > >valuable record books when they learned the books had been hauled > > >away to > > >the dump, but the landfill told them there were confidential files > > >among > > >the garbage. > > > > > >Commissioner Cody Starcher said in an interview last week that the > > >county > > >had received special permission from the state to include old juvenile > > >records in the six BFI Dumpster trash bins hauled to the dump. > > > > > >"We are allowed to throw the juvenile records away after 20 years," he > > >said. "But they usually have to be shredded and burned." > > > > > >Now local historians are concerned they will never see the priceless, > > >handwritten books again. > > > > > >"I don't see how they will be retrieved," Chrislip said. "As a > > >historian I > > >have to be realistic. Now hopefully the county will preserve what > > >is left." > > >  Chrislip said the leather-bound books were particularly valuable > > >because > > >they recorded everything from the county clerk's office. > > > > > >"Record keeping then was a very different process," he said. "We > > >were still > > >in Virginia and documents like that are very, very rare." > > > > > >The historian said the records gave insight into a lifestyle long > > >gone. > > > > > >"There is no oral history from that time, no photography and very > > >little > > >written history. Through the day books we had a great deal of > > >information > > >to interpret history," he said. > > > > > >Chrislip agrees with the county commission that the books had no > > >monetary > > >value, but he said the county has lost something culturally valuable. > > > > > >He said 20 years ago he had searched for day books like the ones > > >thrown > > >away and was told they did not exist. Years later he learned they > > >were in > > >existence, but in "dead" storage. > > > > > >The historian said he and other people interested in genealogy > > >would have > > >liked to have been given access to the books before they were > > >discarded. > > > > > >County Commission President James Sago and Starcher were not > > >available for > > >comment Wednesday evening. > > >* * * > > > > > >If you'd like to write the Editor of the WV Times, > > > > > >The email address is: > > >timeswv@timeswv.com > > > > > >LETTERS TO THE EDITOR: > > >All letters for publication should be so stated. > > >Requests for publication must include address & telephone number. > > >phone: (304) 367-2500 * Fax: (304) 367-2569 > > > > > >Or postal mail to: > > >Times West Virginian > > >PO Box 2530 > > >Fairmont, WV 26555-2530 > > > > > >======================================================= > > > > > > ______________________________ >

icq#4202467 -----Original Message----- From: Bridgett Smith <bascs@snark.wizard.com> To: TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com <TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, June 27, 1998 9:20 PM Subject: [TNGEN-L] (Fwd) [STATE-COORD-L] Census Announcement Folks, Just came off this page, the news is fantastic. Take a peek ! Bridgett ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 20:40:11 +0000 From: Linda Lewis <cityslic@ix.netcom.com> Organization: USGenWeb Archives, VAGenWeb Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Census Announcement To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Reply-to: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com This is exciting news! Please go to http://www.skpub.com/genie and click on "census on cd". Linda ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ Bridgett Smith TNGenWeb State Coordinator http://www.tngenweb.org/ ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== Be sure to send your updates to this mailing list to be included on the "What's New" page.

Hi Gang, Not too many new things lately. Cemetery listings for McMillions Also, changed the main Giles page. Now lists the recent updates. Dave icq#4202467

I have a new e-mail address. If you have my address in your address book, please change it to: giles@tngenweb.org Dave icq#4202467

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I just got a copy of "A Brief Sketch of the Settlement and Early History of Giles County Tennessee" by James McCallum. It is a used copy that I had purchased over the 'net. Glued to one of the back pages is an obituary. I thought I would transcribe it & throw it out to the list, in case someone is related to this woman ( & if you are related to her, let me know...there are notations thruout the book, I'll transcribe them for you, as well). "Mrs. Gordon Rites Slated For Sunday Services for Mrs. Beulah McLaurine Gordon, 91, of 4203 Leland Lane, will be at 2:30 pm Sunday at the West End Methodist Church. Dr. Roy C. Clark and Dr. A.J. Walton will officiate. Burial will be in Lynnwood Cemetery, Lynville. Finley Dorris and Charlton Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements. Mrs. Gordon died Friday in a local infirmary after an extended illness. A native of Lynville, she was a daughter of the late DeWitt Franklin and Ella Heflin McLaurine. She was a descendent of John Laird, a prominent landowner in Giles County who was Lynn Creek's first postmaster. Her grandfather, the Rev. Rufus T. Heflin, was a trustee of Trinity College, Durham, N.C., the predecessor of Duke University, and the first editior of the North Carolina Christian Advocate. Mrs. Gordon was educated in the Lynnville schools and attended Peabody College. She moved to Nashville in 1932 and was a receptionist for the YWCA for several years and was a reader in the state sessions. She was married in 1903 to Harvey Walker Gordon of Lynville. He died in 1904. Mrs. Gordon was a member of the West End Methodist Church and the Mary Helm Bible Class. Survivors include a son, Buford Gordon, Nashville; a nephew, Paul DeWitt McLaurine, Nashville; and a niece, Mrs. Walter H. Gay, Memphis. " There are some really good tid-bits in there. I hope it helps someone. Terri Hardiman-Black black@globe.com