icq#4202467 -----Original Message----- From: Javan Michael DeLoach <javan@paonline.com> To: Worsham <worsham@ave.net> Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 9:39 AM Subject: Re: 1920 Giles County Census >At 08:16 AM 11/14/98 -0800, you wrote: > >>These are great. Are there plans to load other census years online?? > >Hi Dave, > >S-K Publications is donating these census files to the USGenWeb whenever >any person purchases an original set from them. The only problem with what >they are doing is that they do not include the index, which is part of the >original set. So, I suppose we will continue to see more of these popping >up. It's too bad that they just recently started this program, because I >had bought several of their census publications in the past. > >Take care. > >Mike >

Hi Folks, Todays update includes: Inman slave given freedom by Tracy Civil War diary record of Stephen Rutledge by Don Kelly Cemetery listing of Case, McFarland, Wilburn Thanx Tracy and Don Dave icq#4202467

Hi Folks, For those of you that have my e-mail address, please change it from worsham@ave.net to worshamsr@yahoo.com or giles@tngenweb.org Dave icq#4202467

Sorry for the overload folks, but this one seemed especially appropriate today. Jan in Arizona ******** >WHAT IS A VET? > > Some veterans bear visible signs of their service: a missing limb, a >jagged scar, a certain look in the eye. Others may carry the evidence >inside them: a pin holding a bone together, a piece of shrapnel in the >leg - or perhaps another sort of inner steel: the soul's ally forged in >the refinery of adversity. > Except in parades, however, the men and women who have kept America safe >wear no badge or emblem. > You can't tell a vet just by looking. > What is a vet? > He is the cop on the beat who spent six months in Saudi Arabia >sweating two gallons a day making sure the armored personnel carriers >didn't run out of fuel. > He is the barroom loudmouth, dumber than five wooden planks, whose >overgrown frat-boy behavior is outweighed a hundred times in the cosmic >scales by four hours of exquisite bravery near the 38th parallel. > She - or he - is the nurse who fought against futility and went to >sleep sobbing every night for two solid years in Da Nang. > He is the POW who went away one person and came back another - or >didn't come back AT ALL. > He is the Quantico drill instructor who has never seen combat - but >has saved countless lives by turning, slouchy hill- billy rednecks and >no -account gang members into Marines, and teaching them to watch > each other's backs. > He is the parade - riding Legionnaire who pins on his ribbons and >medals with a prosthetic hand. > He is the career quartermaster who watches the ribbons and medals >pass him by. > He is the three anonymous heroes in The Tomb Of The Unknowns, whose >presence at the Arlington National Cemetery must forever preserve the >memory of all the anonymous heroes whose valor dies unrecognized with >them on the battlefield or in the ocean's sunless deep. > He is the old guy bagging groceries at the supermarket - palsied now >and aggravatingly slow - who helped liberate a Nazi death camp and who >wishes all day long that his wife were still alive to hold him when the >nightmares come. > > He also was my father, your father, grandfather, husband, brother, >uncle, cousin, and yes , all the females who bravely served and are >serving their country, for OUR freedom . > He is an ordinary and yet an extraordinary human being - a person >who offered some of his life's most vital years in the service of his >country, and who sacrificed his ambitions so others would not have to >sacrifice theirs. > > He is a soldier and a savior and a sword against the darkness, and >he is nothing more than the finest, greatest testimony on behalf of the >finest, greatest nation ever known. > So remember, each time you see someone who has served or is serving >our country, just lean over and say "Thank You." That's all most people >need, and in most cases it will mean more than any medals they could >have been awarded or were awarded. > Two little words that mean a lot, "THANK YOU". > Remember: November 11th is Veterans Day >

I thought this one was worth passing along. I hope you agree. Jan in Arizona *********** Giving Thanks: Our Ancestors....How Much We Love Them! While doing research on my family lines, I have come to notice the age of the people of this country. The life span seemed to be fairly short. The majority of the people that I see as heads of the household are from 23 to 45. There are very few in their 60's and 70's. During the ten to twelve years before the Civil War our country seemed to be what we consider today as "young adults" as head of a household. Before that the lives of these people were extremely busy with land, farming and raising their families and this was taking it's toll on the young men and women of that time because it was unbearably hard work for the farmers and their families. The people that were able to buy land and invest and be active in the business end of society were marking off their days on this earth as was the farmer and his wife were without even knowing it. Life itself was taking it's toll of these bright, diligent, energetic people. They, for the most part would all be dead before they reached the age of 50. For an eager nation to grow it took many miles of road, tunnels, ore, railroads, food, crops for clothing, livestock, trees, oil and so many other natural resources and various occupations to supply the needs of it's people. They lived hard lives, even if it was with a suit of clothes and a tie, shirts with fancy cuffs and collars or rough-woven durable fabric for the laborers of various trades and livelyhoods, the pace was hard and fast and worrisome. Most of those that you see listed in the census reports in their 60's, 70's or 80's through the 1860 census, were just stronger, healthier and blessed with longer lives. After the Civil War there were fewer young men on the census reports. Most were in their 40s and 50s, some maimed, some crippled, some blind and many that were strong and healthy in 1861, were spent in the few years that the war lasted. They came home old men in the conditions of their bodies and many never regained their health to support their families by being able to carry the whole load of maintaining their farms or trades. The sons of those men learned early how to till and seed the ground, when to harvest, how to manage the few dollars they had or how to present themselves to borrow on next year's crop before they were 18 years old. The tradesmen had an advantage over the farmer when it came to his sons being able to carry on their work, crafty small hands learned quickly the art of making clothes, shoes and sewing the leathers for boots, belts, vests, saddles etc. before they were 12. But the farmer and the blacksmith and the waggoneer and the lumberman had to hire help until their sons were strong enough to maintain the balance of the load for their fathers. It was too hard for an 8 year old to lift wheels, fell trees, use an anvil, and control the horses and oxen and mules that were needed for those jobs. However, their little minds of boys 5 and 6 years old when their fathers came home from the war were keen and open and eager to learn. And learn they did, just as fast and furiously as they could, and they did what they could until their bodies caught up to their mental experience and were able to put all their knowledge into practice. Those young boys that had to learn from their older family members; uncles, cousins, grandparents if they were still there for them, those were the ones that had the hardest challenge.....their father's didn't come home, their mother's couldn't hold up under the strain and the daughters had to pitch in and learn the art of making bread, churning, cooking, cleaning, washing, ironing, sewing...whatever it took to be there beside their brother or brothers if they were lucky enough to have them and keep the family together and pushing on and on and on. These wonderful people are our ancestors. These blessed, faithful, loving, and yes, some have the occasional traits of hot tempered, sweaty, foul mouthed...but they are our ancestors. These strong, weak, frail, stubborn, rough skinned, white skinned, dark skinned, pampered or leathery people are our ancestors. I am so proud of them. I love them so much. I wish I could have known each and every one of them, touched them, listened to them.....just stood in their shadow for a few minutes because I'll guarantee you one thing, those shadows would have brought me to my knees knowing how much it covered and what it meant to be a part of their family. I have stood and am now standing on their land. I have seen and touched their trees and their homes. I have smelled their old pipes and snuff jars, their handbags, powder boxes and handkerchiefs. I have felt their old pocket watches, their knives, dishes, tools, jewelry, combs and brushes. I have tried my best to take in what is left of their presence and there is one thing that makes me cry with joy that I can hold it in my hand and smell the sweet smell of the years everytime I open or caress it, it smells of leather and ink and age, but it's never dusty or used up....it's always there with warmth and peace and love....it's their Bible. The one piece of their lives that reaches generation after generation and is more loved each time it's given to the next, it's the one part of them that they couldn't live without, they couldn't read it, most of them, but it was there and they knew what it was saying, they had learned that through the years from their parents and their parents before them. Aren't ancestors marvelous. They make us who we are; a mixture of proof that they had made their mark on the land and it can never be erased. Thanksgiving, yes I give thanks.....everyday. Written at Smithville, OK., July 1996 where my Dad was born. Lou Ann Phillips Lunsford

Who is W F Poarch? He was born 25 November 1838 and died 25 June 1902 He is buried with W C & Lucinda C Poarch. Could this be Wm C Poarch's brother? Any help with this mystery will be appreciated. virginia@isgroup.net

McCanless Cemetery located on Highway 31A at Friendship Community, about two and one half miles west of Beech Hill, on the Glen Worsham place. This cemetery reported by Mr and Mrs. Glen Worsham and Gerald Young. Published by the Giles County Histoical Society, Pulaski, TN 1986. Notes added from information gathered by Ron McCanless and others. J W McCanless 1 March 1852 - 9 February 1917 (John Wesley McCanless) Mollie Eslick 1854 - 1927 (Mollie McCanless Eslick) Martha Ann McCanless 1851 - 1932 Floyd Terrace, infant son of Dudley & Lula McCanless 16 Sep 1900 - 10 Nov 1901. America McCanless 1861 only date Lula R McCanless 1872 - 1941 D H Lula McCanless 17 June 1909 - 13 May 1911 W T McCanless 11 Nov 1849 - 5 June 1906 G L (Red) McCanless 1905 - 1947 (George Lavoy McCanless) William A McCanless 1851 - 1932 (William Austin McCanless 1851-1923?) Ella McCanless 5 Dec 1866 no other dates (wife of Francis M McCanless) Maybe this will help someone. Virginia Poarch virginia@isgroup.net I have a Mary Ann Poarch that married John William McCanless. They moved out west.

Hi Gang, I received this map with not much info. Who knows what this type of map is called??? http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngiles/maps/gilescty.htm Dave icq#4202467

1880 Census of Giles Co TN William C Poarch (Porch) 55 Lucinda C 50 Wm N 26 Morgan L 22 Sina E 18 Florence D 15 Alice 14 Nathan A 11 Martha L 8 Calvin 6 John M son 28 Mollie d-i-law 20 Ernest gs 3 Ethel A gd 1 John M and Mollie were in TX when Ernest and Ethel A were born. They returned to TN and moved in with John M's father, Wm C. Any additions or corrections welcomed. Will share what I have. virginia@isgroup.net

Here is another map. icq#4202467 -----Original Message----- From: Fred Smoot <dogtrot@well.com> To: TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com <TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [TNGEN-L] map to check out >The animated County line map, and second animated map and one of the >papers on Ed Stephan’s site are linked on TNGenWeb’s Maps Links page. > >I just checked his internal links and some are out of date. Ed is a >professor at Western Washington University and the maps, etc, are >carried on the WWU site. It seems that WWU added an "ac." in their URL. >You might have a little trouble trying to download his paper, but the >maps are great . . . BTW, thanks Tim, I needed to fix my links too. > >http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/Animation/us.gif (The county map URL >that Tim Stowell sent.) > >http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/48states.html (The formation of state >boundaries.) > >If you notice on the county line map, it gives the URL of Goldbug. There >you can buy the CD of county line changes in the US, every state, every >major change through the years. It is called AniMap. >http://www.goldbug.com/GoldBug.html > >Fred > >>>>> > > >Tim Stowell wrote: >> >> I got this on another list to which Holly Timm, one of our reps posted. >> This really neat! >> >> >From: bearpaw@alaska.net >> >Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 09:35:48 -0900 >> >Hi all, >> >I was sent this map of the US which unfolds to show how the country >> >was settled. It's pretty neat to watch. >> > >> http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/Animation/us.gif >> > >> > peg price >> > caroline co >> >> >> >> ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== >> Please make sure your links back to any project >> site located on USIT has the URL >> http://www.tngenweb.org/ > > >==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== >Don't forget to visit TNGenWeb's Bulletin Board >http://pluto.beseen.com/boardroom/d/19731/ >Help the folks out if you can, but remember to answer >the query so it can be seen on line. > >

Hi Folks, You might find this map interesting. Dave icq#4202467 -----Original Message----- From: Tim Stowell <tstowell@mccallie.org> To: TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com <TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 2:31 PM Subject: [TNGEN-L] map to check out >I got this on another list to which Holly Timm, one of our reps posted. >This really neat! > >>From: bearpaw@alaska.net >>Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 09:35:48 -0900 >>Hi all, >>I was sent this map of the US which unfolds to show how the country >>was settled. It's pretty neat to watch. >> >http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/Animation/us.gif >> >> peg price >> caroline co > > > > >==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== >Please make sure your links back to any project >site located on USIT has the URL >http://www.tngenweb.org/ >

Hi Folks, Todays update includes: An update to Early Photographers by Bob Wamble A roster of the 111th USCT by Angela Walton Thanx Bob and Angela Dave www.rootsweb.com/~tngiles/ icq#4202467

I am looking for information on John L. Burgessbca1818VA. His parents were Harrison Burgess and Jane (Jennie) Akin. He married Jane Gardner 1Jan 1850 in Gilse Co. He died 26Sept1868 in Giles County. He had 7 children on the census of 1860 in Giles Co, 5 fo whom were born prior to his marriage to Jane. Who was the mother of these 5: Hugh L.W. Burgess m Mary Ann Sanders(from whom I am descended) Elizabeth Burgess m Joseph Porch James L. Burgess m Laura Glenn Mary W. Burgess m John W. Hamlin Manerva C.m A.D. Moore. Hugh and Mary Ann moved to the bootheel of Mo and then West TN. Would like to hear from others who are researching this line.

Hi Folks, Todays update includes: Cemetery listing of Clacks & Clarks Dave www.rootsweb.com/~tngiles/ icq#4202467

I received this tid-bit from a cousin recently and I thought that it might be of interest to our fellow Inman family researchers and could possibly benefit someone who is tracing their African ancestry. Tracy ----- >Giles County Chancery Files #19 File Box E-4 Case 1632 1859: >Elias, a person of color (Free by next friend Quarles T. Mayfield vs >Joseph C. Inman > >Elias states that Joseph C. Inman and John C. Inman became the owner of >Elias under the last will and testament of Major Joseph Inman, deceased. > >On September 13, 1855 John C. and Joseph C. Inman gave Elias his >freedom. This instrument was registered in the Registrar's office. >Joseph C. Inman then tried to get Elias back in his possession. >John C. Inman died in 1858, leaving a will. It was ruled Elias be sent >back to the Western coast of Africa. Thomas M. Jones and Calvin Clack >were Elia's attorneys. The case was taken to the Tennessee Supreme >Court in Nashville. >

Hello all. I have some more info to share on my Mary Elizabeth Liles. I have been looking for info on Mary's first husband, R.F. Hughes. Thanks to list member Joe Hardiman for providing me with a lead to pursue. R.F. could possibly be Riley F. Hughes b. abt. 1850 in Limestone Co., AL. In the 1870 census of Lawrence Co. I found Riley's brother, Hugh H. Hughes who was married to Mary J. Brandon March 11, 1869. Chances are pretty good that Riley is our man but what happened to this joker? By the 1880 census, Mary and four Hughes children are living back with her parents, Thomas D. and Elizabeth (Holt) Liles in Lawrence Co. Mary E. Liles remarried July 5, 1882 in Lawrence to Andrew W. Lacroix, son of Jacob Lacroix and Mary Radford. Andrew was about 20 years older than Mary and she would have brought her four young children into the marriage. Apparently, Andrew and Mary had two children of their own: Mable Lacroix born May 1884 and married T.W. Smith; Alford T. Lacroix born May 1887. Perhaps there are descendants of the Lacroix family who might know something of what happened to Mary's first husband and their children. Any Lawrence Co. Lacroix family out there? I would love to hear from you! Lots of info to share. Tracy

It's been a while since I posted my McGills, so thought I'd do so again. Peterson McGill, b. TN 1816, d. Lauderdale Co., AL Jan. 10, 1888. Married four times: Mahala Long, Oda Marbut, Sarah Sherwood, Catherine Daly. He had 17 children by wives 1, 2 and 4. In 1840 census, he was in Lawrence Co., TN; 1850-1870 in Giles & Limestone Co.s; in 1880, Lauderdale Co. Oldest child, Robert McGill, was born 1836; last child Dora b. 1885. Peterson apparently had six siblings, the names of three of whom are known definitively: Joel (moved to Johnson Co., ARK); Isaac (thought to have died in his 20's) and Eli (moved to west Tennessee, died in the 1890's). Parents of these McGill's were Robert & Elizabeth McGill. Robert is on the 1820 Giles Co., census. Estate records show Elizabeth died about 1826. No mention of Robert at that time. It is known that, as orphans, Eli & Isaac were raised by William Legg of Limestone Co. Joel was raised by William Hogan of Giles. Don't know who raised the rest. McGill's in Giles as of the 1810 census include Thomas, the only adult male McGill tallied in the county that year. He is known to have moved before 1820 to Franklin Co., AL, then eventually to TX. Is he Robert McGill's father? Allied families which were with the McGills in Giles included the Walkers & Porters. Some of those folks moved in parallel with Thomas McGill to AL then TX. There are several Walker-McGill land transactions in Giles Co., and a couple of the McGill children & grandchildren carried the middle name Porter. Would like to share info. Jim Davis

I have some data from the Tarpley Master Chart IA in the Giles County Lineage Book, and I would love to know the original source for this information. Although I would like to have the documentation for any of the data in the Tarpley chart, the items I am in special need of are the following: 1. The marriage date of John Tarpley and Ann Griffin abt. 1737 in Richmond Co., Va. 2. The birthdate of their son, John Tarpley, 13 Dec. 1738, in Richmond County, Va. 3. The name of the younger John's wife, which may be either Elizabeth Stith or Elizabeth Smith. Sara Binkley Tarpley

Passing this along from anther list, Brenda ---------- From: Ljdunmire@aol.com Sent: Sunday, November 01, 1998 10:43 AM To: PHILLIPS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Check out Search FuneralNet Someone gave me this site and it's great. You type in the city or county and state and they post all the funeral homes there with the address and phone number. Hope it helps! Jan Colorado <A HREF="http://www.funeralnet.com/search.html">Click here: Search FuneralNet </A> http://www.funeralnet.com/search.html

fyi icq#4202467 -----Original Message----- From: Bridgett Smith <bascs@snark.wizard.com> To: TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com <TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 11:51 AM Subject: [TNGEN-L] (Fwd) [STATE-COORD-L] Fw: info FYI ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date forwarded: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 06:01:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Don Spidell" <dspidell@zekes.com> Date sent: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 06:54:37 -0700 Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Fw: info To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Forwarded by: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Send reply to: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Verrry interesting! You might want to forward this to your own mailing lists. Don Spidell -----Original Message----- From: George Newbury <georgen@supercity.ns.ca> To: LUNEN-LINKS-L@rootsweb.com <LUNEN-LINKS- L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 4:19 AM Subject: RE: info >i'm sending this info to both of you, not to the lists > LUNEN-LINKS & NOVA SCOTIA > >the contents of this message follows > > ---------------- > > >Subject: > [Moonrakers] Selling e-mail addresses buy using genealogy as a >front. > Date: > Sat, 31 Oct 1998 23:02:02 -0600 > From: > Tom Keyes <keyestl@execpc.com> > To: > Moonrakers <moonrakers@ultra.net.au> > > >Moonrakers: > >The following is from this weeks Eastman letter. > >- Genealogy Web Site Sells Your Name and E-mail Address > >It's a tough world. Lots of businesses sell their customer lists >these days. The result is that you get junk mail and marketing >phone calls from all sorts of companies trying to sell you >something you probably don't want. The newest twist is "spam >mail", unwanted e-mails that advertise all sorts of junk. Now a >well-known genealogy Web site is contributing to the spam mail >that you receive and apparently is profiting from personal >information that they obtain from you under the guise of helping >you do genealogy research. In fact, the Web site apparently is a >"front", as the main purpose seems to be gathering personal >information about you and then selling that information. > >The Family Tree House Web site at http://www.usaafter.com claims >that it is "the Association for FamilyTree Enrollment and >Registry." The home page says, "This site offers free family tree >software and links to key genealogy sites. The software is >available on-line. You can build your FamilyTree House in real >time, no downloading is required." > >They also say, "...you can create and register your own on-line >FamilyTree. And because it is on-line, you can enlist the help of >other family members by giving them your personal access code to >allow them to fill in the missing branches--it's a project the >whole family can participate in no matter where they live." On >another page the site advises, "When requesting information, >please make sure you include your name, mailing address and the >information you would like." > >After they collect all the personal information from you and your >other family members, the owners of Family Tree House apparently >package the information and sell it to other companies that send >junk mail or spam e-mails. On a different Web site, the owners of >Family Tree House offer "a file of 33,600 last-12-month >registrants of the Family Tree House, an association that offers >Web site members free software and links to genealogy sites." The >file they sell reportedly contains information about each person's >date of birth, gender, e-mail address, state and ZIP code. The Web >advertisement says that the file contains listings for 33,600 >people who have left personal information on the Family Tree House >site. > >To check for yourself, first look at http://www.usaafter.com and >then look at: >http://www.mediacentral.com/Magazines/DirectNewsline/Archive/1998100910.h >tm > >Cheers, Tom > > > >=========================================== >Have you got any GEDCOM files? >Why not send them to Mike for inclusion on our web-site. > > ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ Bridgett Smith TNGenWeb State Coordinator http://www.tngenweb.org/ ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== Please make sure your links back to any project site located on USIT has the URL http://www.tngenweb.org/