Hello, Giles Countians... I found the blurb below in the Graham [Young Co., Texas] Leader newspaper today, and thought it might be helpful to someone. Regards, Jim Wheat ------ Graham Leader, July 24, 1884, page 2: A letter from W. R. Moore, of Diana, Giles county, Tennessee, has been received making inquiry for one William Newton Wilson, who came to Texas from that county several years ago- lived for awhile in Ellis county [Texas] and for a short time, in the vicinity of Hubbard [Hill Co., Tex.]. Reports have reached Mr. Moore that Wilson died somewhere in this State last spring. He was familiarly known as "Newt" Wilson. Any information regarding him, whether dead or alive, will be thankfully received by Mr. Moore, who is a brother-in-law of Wilson and is anxious to get full particulars. - Hubbard City News. -------

I have learned that many people who obtained land patents did not file the patent (deed from Fed. Gov't) for a few years because of the distance and difficulty of travel to the land office. I have also been told that some people did not file their deeds because then they would be subject to taxes! What a world it must have been. J.

Howdy, Is anyone working on the Hugh KING line? He is listed on the 1840 Pensioners Census, and in the First Presbyterian Church in Elk Ridge, two and a half miles East of Lynnville Station. Would like more information on this KING if anyone is willing to share? Kathy in Humboldt (PST) God Bless

Howdy, I wanted to add my two cents on the subject of people not recording their deeds for several years. I am a land surveyor and it is not uncommon to still find people who have never recorded their deeds. Usually it is the same type of people who don't trust banks and bury their savings in jars. The deeds are still valid, but it makes our job harder in finding the real owner. Now, almost all land title transactions are handled by attorneys and land title companies who insure that the deeds are properly filed. It is easily believable that 100 or more years ago, when deeds were handwritten 'in the field', that people didn't see a real need in recording them. If someone came on their property to stake claim to it, they could get out their deed and prove ownership. Later, Henry P Mayo College Station, TX

I have heard is stated several times that often (but not ALWAYS) the first witness to a deed was a representative of the wife's family, this being done to protect her potential dower rights later on down the line. As to why it took so long to register the deed, who knows? Perhaps the Circuit Court did not meet at a time your ancestor could get to the courthouse to register it and he "forgot" for a period of years. Or, it could be where he lived in the county of Giles in relation to the court's meeting place. I have read accounts of Giles Co in its early years that speak to the vegetation being somewhat jungle like and terrain difficult to travel, but this was in the early early days (1809, 1810...) and surely buy the 1830's it was easier. However, the court then may not have met in a courthouse, but in someone's barn or house, intermittently. It is usual for a delay of months to maybe 2 years for a deed registration, but 12 years seems pretty excessive. I also have a few deeds with that kind of lapse, and have never been able to explain it either. Maybe someone can enlighten us both. Regina

I have a deed which I would like to be able to "read" some genealogical information out of. Perhaps one of y'all could be of help. In 1825, Henry Cross of Giles County sold a parcel of land to my 4th great-grandfather, Robert McGill. This deed was not entered with the county, however, until 1837. Why the delay? Robert's wife, Betsey McGill, died in 1825, and their kids were tken in by several families including the Leggs, Walkers and Hogans. Is it likely that 1837 is when Robert died, and the deed had to be formalized before an estate settlement? Also, there were four witnesses to the deed, the first of whom was a James Craig. I think that Robert McGill's wife Betsy may have been Mary Elizabeth Craig, but I'm not sure. Is there any fairly reliable interpretation of relationships of witnesses to parties cited in deeds? Any insight will be appreciated. Jim Davis

My Great grand father was Daniel Long, born abt. 1856 somewhere in Tennessee. He married Sarah J. Johnson, born abt. 1852 somewhere in Tennessee. They were married on Oct. 15, 1882 in Giles Co. They had 4 son's : Ezra Long born May 5, 1883, he married Lawella Johnson on June 27, 1909, they had at least 2 children, 1 of them I believe was a step-child. Ruth & Cullum Harvey Long. I believe Ruth was the step-child, I have no info on her. Cullum Harvey was born Aug. 9, 1916. He married Maggie Simpson, and he died Dec. 29, 1953 in Giles co. After the death of Lawella, Ezra's first wife, and after the death of Ezra's son, Cullum, Ezra married Maggie ( his daughter - in - law ). Ezra died March 18, 1965 in Giles co. Willie Long born July 6, 1888, he married Georgie Pearl. They only had 1 son, Burren Long. Willie Long worked for the Woodmen of the World Insurance, he died June 26, 1918 & is buried in the Old Salem Cemetery in Limestone Co. Alabama. Wilson Long born April 5, 1892 in Pulaski, TN. He married Emma Lee Randolph on July 3, 1910 in Giles Co. TN. Emma Lee Randolph was the daughter of James F. Randolph and Martha Stafford. ( James & Martha had a daughter named Nancie, a daughter named Mary Lou, a daughter named Ida Belle, a son named Walter Houston, and a son named Samuel. I believe Nancie & Samuel may have been born from another marriage ). ( Wilson Long & Emma Lee Randolph moved to Limestone co. Alabama. They had 6 children, all born in Limestone Co. Alabama : 4 sons.... Mack Robert Long, Malon Long, Marvin Thomas Long, and my dad, Eugene Long. They had 2 daughters... Florine Long, and my dad's twin sister, Irene Long). Wesley Long no official birthdate on him as of yet, married Mary Lou Randolph, daughter of James & Martha. They also moved to Limestone Co. Alabama. Where they had 5 children of their own, plus Wesley Long had a daughter named Rena Randolph, daughter of Ida Belle Randolph. Wesley Long died in 1975, so I have been told. The names that I have so far that I am researching from Giles Co. are... Long, Randolph, Johnson, Favors, Hatfield ( not sure if this one is from Giles co. but know it is from TN ). Simpson, and Stafford. If any of these names ring a bell, please email me. Many thanks in advance & sorry this is so long. Robbie

Marilyn, This IS most interesting. I will pass it along to the tngiles list and also add it to the Giles page. Tngiles subscribers, if any of you do this, I would love to find out the results. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Marilyn K. Hare <mkhare@bellsouth.net> To: <dworsham@launchnet.com> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 4:12 AM Subject: [Fwd: World War 1 Draft Cards] > Hi Dave, > The attached appears to be a resource worth investigating. You may > wish to send it to the Giles List if you agree. > Regards, Marilyn >

This came across the tngen list and I thought I would share it with you. Good Idea. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy Cole <ncole@coffey.com> To: <TNCHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 7:16 AM Subject: [TNCHAT] And what about YOUR history? (fwd) Hi folks, This came on another list, but it was such a cool idea, that I share it here Nancy ______________________________________ You have searched through the census, been to the courthouse, sat for hours looking at roll after roll of microfilm at the library and you've come up with a pretty complete history of the life of great granddad Jeremiah. You have all of the important dates noted and doubled checked them. And, most important, you have all of the sources cited. You have entered the data onto your computer files and sent it off to one of the half dozen family tree groups. Success. But how many times have you sat back and asked, "I know from the census that Jeremiah lived in Indiana in 1870, but WHY did he move there from North Carolina in 1863? And how did he meet great grandmother Molly? What was it like when they made their way back to North Carolina in 1880?" When dealing with ancestors who have passed away a hundred or two hundred years ago, it's unlikely you'll ever find those answers unless you stumble across a diary or a packet of letters.. Let's fast forward 50 or 75 years from now. YOUR great grandchildren are wondering about YOU. Why did YOU move from Detroit to New Hampshire in 1975? How did YOU and great Grandmom meet? WHERE did YOU live at the end of 1999? They are asking the same questions about YOU as you were asking about your ancestors. But guess what: YOU can do something about it. I urge every genealogist to begin a history of their life and times. I don't mean for you to sit down and write an autobiography (although if you are so inclined, go for it!) Get yourself a tape recorder and start recording your life's experiences. You can use a camcorder, etc, but I'm for the simplest means possible. You're driving to work on the freeway an hour each day; a little hand held recorder would do the trick. Turn off the TV early one evening and grab your recorder. You're taking a nice long walk on a Sunday afternoon - bring along your recorder. What to record? EVERYTHING. List every job you every had and describe what it was like. List every place you've ever lived and describe the house, apartment, cave, what ever. Give dates. Pretend you're on the phone with your best friend and you're playing catch up on family news. You've probably seen those books in which you ask your grandparents what it was like when they were kids; their favorite candy; what school was like etc, etc. and then write down their answers. Use that as a guide for YOURSELF. You get the idea. As I tell my kids, while I'm still semi-coherent (although they'll probably dispute that) I want to put down on tape as much as I can remember. Suggestions: Start off each taping session by giving the day's date: "This is 21 August, 1999. Today I'm going to tell about how I met my wife." Label the tapes so you know what you've recorded. Break off the little tabs on the end of the cassettes. That prevents you from taping over earlier recordings. I urge you to begin now, today, right after you log off your computer. There's no guarantee as to how long any of us have on this planet, so don't put it off. Little things that might seem unimportant to you now could be very important to your descendants 75 years from now. Most of all, have fun with it. Your descendants will thank you.

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Searching for information on William Cooper, he was a Justice of Peace in Giles Co., TN ca 1815. Thanks, Gary

Seeking info on ancestors and descendants of William Jackson Craig (1818-1884). "Jack," as he was called, was born in Maury Co. - moved to Giles about 1842, and remained there for the rest of his life. I am particularly interested in sharing research on his father, who I believe was William Craig, died 1830 in Maury Co. I have spent several months in primary records - have some new information.

I hope these notes can help someone. I'm looking in my old stack of notes and I find some of them with no reference to anything. If you can add to them, please do. Carey Jordan This is from "Giles County Lineage Book" Submitted by Louise PREECE David Wilburn SHANNON, b. ca 1811, TN d..1858/59, Neosho, MO or Wash., Co., AR m. Elizabeth WATKINS, b. 16 Dec. 1826, Washington Co., AR d. 17 Jul 1918, Austin, TX Daughter Mary Catherine SHANNON, b. 6 Jun 1849, Newton Co., MO d. 6 Jun 1932, Austin, TX m. 15 Nov 1866, Austin, TX Richard Lincoln PREECE, b. 12 Nov 1833, Pike Co., KY d. 18 Nov 1906, near Austin, TX The following are from my misc. TN notes: 6 Mar 1813,David SHANNON, Esq. of Williamson Co., TN., 50 acreson Brush Creek to Joseph Haynes, Sr.,of Bedford Creek, TN 6 Mar 1813, William PICKENS, 100 Acres on Globe Creek; David SHANNON of Williamson Co., TN >From Automated Archives, Corpus Christi Public Library: Annabella FRANCES, b. 30 Dec 1830, Benton Co., AR, d. 16 Oct 1906, Benton Co., AR Spouse, William SHANNON Child, Dewitt Clinton SHANNON Laura BOERGER, b. est 1898 Spouse, William Cinton SHANNON Hannah HOLMES, b. est 1755 Spouse, William SHANNON

This William finus Shannon was m Grandfather. His daughter Toledo Ann (Lee, Ledo) was my Grandmother. Any help filling in the gaps will be appreciated. Willian Finus Shannon b. abt 1827 married. 8 Oct 1865 in Lawrence County, TN Mary Micheal Randall b. abt 1828 Toledo Ann (Lee, Ledo) Shannon, 6 Feb. 1869-d.1942 Electra, Wichita Co., TX married, 6 Jan 1887 Ralph (Hosea, Ira) Jordan, b.7 Jan. 1867, AL- d.19 Jan.1918, Electra, Wichita Co., TX 1870 Lawrence Co, TN census HH 237/242 Wm. F. Shannon, 43M Blacksmith Mary M. 42F Spouse Thomas A. 3M Toledo A. 1F Jefferson Shannon m. Rachel Randall, 23 Jan 1823, Maury Co., TN. Is it possibly that Rachel Randall could be the sister of the Abigail Randall (11 May 1814-17 Jan 1888) that m. Jacob Copeland (7 Sept. 1807-14 Aug. 1889)? In the 1880 Lawrence Co., TN Census, Jeff Shannon, M 13 and Lee Shannon 11 were listed a Nephew and Niece. I don't know about these, but they sound good. They were in the right place about the right time. James Shannon m. Sarah Duncan, 25 Dec. 1866, Lawrence Co., TN David Shannon m. Lucretia T. Chaffin, 8 Aug. 1848, Maury Co., TN Owen Shannon m. Peggy Sloan, 22 Nov. 1808, Maury Co., TN T. J. Shannon, m. M. C. Goad, 25 Jan 1885, Giles Co., TN 1910 Lawrence Co., TN, Census HH 134/145 Thomas J. Shannon, Head 43 MW Mandy C. Wife 38 FW Linda M. Dau 17 FW Mary E. Dau 15 FW Sally M. Dau 10 FW Robert F. Son 7 MW Janie V. Dau 3 FW Union Hill cemetery, Lawrence Co., TN T. J. Shannon, 6 Aug 1866 to 6 July 1939 Mandy, Wife of T. J. Shannon, 19 July, 1871 to 2 Dec 1933

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Hi Folks, Todays update includes: Cemetery listing of Gordons 100th birthday of Susie Hasting by Ruth Walsh Obituary of Susie Hasting by Ruth Walsh Will of Willis Worley by Vanessa Winans Thanx Ruth & Vanessa Dave www.rootsweb.com/~tngiles/

Hi Folks, Vicki Shaffer (Gibson County) sent me this. You might find this site interesting. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Vicki <TnGibson@worldnet.att.net> To: Dave Worsham <dworsham@launchnet.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 4:53 PM Subject: URL > http://www.doitnow.com/~moravia/tn.html > Ever seen this page? Surprised me! > Vic > > >

OOOPPPS! Robbie, I also found another possible Marilla Gooch in my notes. I say "possible Marilla", because I have her name as Melvilla but then in parenthesis I have that her name could by Marilla. She did marry a Long. His name is A. T. Long. This "possible Marilla" was born circa 1838 in TN. She was the daughter of David Anthony Gooch and Margarette Elizabeth Yancey. If you would like more about this family please let me know. I am interested in the descendants of these Gooches. If you make a connection please let me know. Tonia Moore Please reply to: toniamoore@mindspring.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Robbie, I have information on a Matilda Caroline Gooch who had a sister named Marilla (her middle name not being Caroline). But neither one of these ladies married a Long. Matilda Caroline married James White and Marilla married Jeremiah "Jerry" Barnes. These sisters were born in 1800 and 1802 respectfully. I don't know if this helps you any, but if you do have a connection to the Gooch family in Giles Co. I would be interested in comparing notes with you on this family. Tonia Moore Please reply to: toniamoore@mindspring.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Does anyone happen to have info on a Mattie Lou Long born sept.9,1881 in Giles co. she died jan 22,1970 in Louisville, Ky. She married Robert Rolly Randall on Jan 17, 1903 in Liberty Hill, TN. Her father was Gus Long and her mother was Marilla Caroline Gooch. Also, I am still seeking the parents of Daniel Long & Sarah J. Johnson. As well as any info on the Long's , Randolph's, Simpson's of Giles co. Thanks in advance Robbie