Marvin- a suggestion: The 1880 census (on LDS site) shows 24 Sellers or Sellars in Gibson county representing about 5 families. They may even all be related. Some had children of the age that your Richards parents would be in 1880. If you then can go to a library or somewhere the the 1910 census is available and find your Richard it will give his parents name and then you can refer to the 1880 census and have both his parents and grandparents name. One other method I have employed is to get a death certificate for someone (normally available for any one dying aftrer about 1904 in most states. In it was given the Father's name and Mother's maiden name and the county where the person was born. The lds census search site for 1880 is : .http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search _census.asp Rex in Dallas