I didn't abandon the chat room. I lost all my java script when I used Norton's Anti-Virus Live Update and it took me a while to figure out how to fix it...........because as usual, one small problem kept leading to bigger and bigger ones but at last I can enter the Gibson chat room again. I'll be there for a while tonight, so if anyone is around and would like to join in a "Gibson Gang Chat" please join me! I'm there now. It's 8:30pm Texas time! Vicki