Gotta thump that melon to tell if it is ripe! Get a good solid bong and you got a good'un. Get a thud and look for a better one. I have moved my web page to a new server. Please check out my genealogy web page at: http://freeweb.pdq.net/jrmartin/ Randy Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Red & Pat Anthony <redpata@artelco.com> To: <TNGIBSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 6:32 AM Subject: [TNGIBSON-L] Plugging > Just in time for watermelon season, Charles McCollum asked me yesterday if I knew anything about watermelon plugging. He should have known an old timer like me would know. What is the best way to tell if those babies are ripe??? Charles, if you get your knife out before paying, those peddlers kinda watch'ye close. Red Anthony > Anthony > >

Just in time for watermelon season, Charles McCollum asked me yesterday if I knew anything about watermelon plugging. He should have known an old timer like me would know. What is the best way to tell if those babies are ripe??? Charles, if you get your knife out before paying, those peddlers kinda watch'ye close. Red Anthony Anthony

>From: "Murray Stauffer" <mstauf@arkansas.net> >To: TNGIBSON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [TNGIBSON-L] Need Help On Old Handwriting >Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:02:20 -0500 > >Recently made my long awaited visit to the Gibson County Court House. My >purpose was to inspect an 1861 marriage license of N A Thomas to D L >Dickey. I have wondered if they were the parents of John Henry Dickey. I >believe the mother of John was named Matilda and I wanted to see if perhaps >the "N" in N A Thomas really looked like an "M" for Matilda. It didn't but >is there anyone that might know if an M was sometimes written to look like >an N? I would certainly appreciate any comments. I need some moral >support. BK Stauffer mstauf@arkansas.net >@arkansas.net Recently I was looking at some photocopies of the Blount & Sevier Co. census from around the turn of the century. Some of the M's I saw I would of thought were N if I had not known it should have been different. These were not printed but written in cursive and were always the first letter of a name (the lower case m and n were easy to tell apart). Was the marriage license printed or cursive? Wish you luck. Van Michael Wadley Trezevant,TN wadleyv@usit.net _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

One of my fondest memories as a child was going to the watermelon patch with my Grandmother (I'm not sure if it was Grandpa's patch or the neighbor's patch (bg). She took a large knife and a salt shaker, and she cut the melons, we ate the best part, then she cut another one. Boy did those watermelons taste good. Grandpa grew those great big Black Diamond watermelons. Myra

Does anyone have any information regarding Narcissus SANFORD buried in Martin Cemetery? 6/6/1852 - 12/27/1922. TSLA has no record of her death in Gibson County. Thank you, Karla Butler Everett

Check this site for help deciphering old hand writting: http://www.firstct.com/fv/oldhand.html Randy Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Murray Stauffer <mstauf@arkansas.net> To: <TNGIBSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 5:02 PM Subject: [TNGIBSON-L] Need Help On Old Handwriting > Recently made my long awaited visit to the Gibson County Court House. My purpose was to inspect an 1861 marriage license of N A Thomas to D L Dickey. I have wondered if they were the parents of John Henry Dickey. I believe the mother of John was named Matilda and I wanted to see if perhaps the "N" in N A Thomas really looked like an "M" for Matilda. It didn't but is there anyone that might know if an M was sometimes written to look like an N? I would certainly appreciate any comments. I need some moral support. BK Stauffer mstauf@arkansas.net > @arkansas.net > >

Recently made my long awaited visit to the Gibson County Court House. My purpose was to inspect an 1861 marriage license of N A Thomas to D L Dickey. I have wondered if they were the parents of John Henry Dickey. I believe the mother of John was named Matilda and I wanted to see if perhaps the "N" in N A Thomas really looked like an "M" for Matilda. It didn't but is there anyone that might know if an M was sometimes written to look like an N? I would certainly appreciate any comments. I need some moral support. BK Stauffer mstauf@arkansas.net @arkansas.net

These are the Wilsons in the 1840 census in Gibson Co., TN, series 704, Roll 521 None of the Wilsons had slaves. See below for age categories: Wilson, Matthew, p. 172, one person age 60-70, 3 in household, 1 in Agriculture Wilson, William, p. 172, 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 / 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 / 5 3 Ag Wilson, William, p. 198, 2 2 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 / 0 1 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 / 8 4Ag Wilson, James, p. 203, 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 / 2 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 / 6 1 Ag Wilson, William, p. 225, 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 / 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 /8 1 Ag Wilson, John, p. 225, 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 / 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 / 6 1 Ag Wilson, James, p. 225, 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 / 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 / 4 1 Ag Notes: on p. 172, William Wilson was on the next line, below Matthew Wilson. on p. 225, William Wilson was listed first of the wilsons, then two lines lower, John Wilson, followed on the next line by James Wilson. pn p. 203, some of the other surnames listed were FLOWERS and RIDGEWAY The age categories are: males and then females: <5 5-10 10-15 15-20 20-30 30-40 40-50 50-60 60-70 70-80 80-90 90-100 >100 Male and then Female Slaves: <10 10-24 24-36 36-55 55-100 >100 # Total size of household # employed in Agriculture # employed in Commerce # employed in Manufacturing ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

David Barret was found on p. 192 of the Gibson Co., TN census for 1840 (NARA series M704, Roll 521. David Barret was 50-60 and his household had males: 5-10 - 2 10-15 - 1 15-20 - 1 20-30 - 4 50-60 - 1 (head of household- David Barret) Females: 15-20 - 2 40-50 - 1 80-90 - 1 Male Slaves: <10 - 1 10-24 - 1 Female Slaves: <10 - 2 24-36 - 2 Total size of household: 19 3 employed in Agriculture 2 employed in Manufacturing ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

I was looking up an Obituary today and got several more with my Uncle's, Jessie Flippin. thought some might see one they need. Date: Monday, January 10, 1994 Section: Metro Page: B3 Dateline: ATOKA Memo: obituary Edition: Tennessee Thelma Bomar Brumley, 71, retired supervisor of personal services for the Navy Exchange, died Saturday at Methodist Hospital North in Memphis after a long illness. Services will be at 1 p.m. today at Munford (Tenn.) Funeral Home with burial in Helen Crigger Cemetery there. She was a member of Campground United Methodist Church. Mrs. Brumley, the widow of Jimmy Lee Brumley, leaves a daughter, Judy Horseman McKelvy of Atoka; a stepdaughter, Anne Horseman Wansley of Memphis; three sisters, Cammie Bomar Hammett of Memphis, Annie Bomar Kirkland of Millington and Patricia Bomar Willers of Atoka; three brothers, Walter L. Bomar Jr., of Memphis, and James C. Bomar and Kenneth E. Bomar, both of Atoka; two grandchildren and two great- grandchildren. CAMDEN - Vivian Phifer Brewer, 92, died Saturday at Valley Regional Hospital after a long illness. Services will be at 2 p.m. today at Stockdale- Malin Funeral Home with burial in Camden Cemetery. She was a member of Flatwoods Methodist Church. Mrs. Brewer, the widow of Carl M. Brewer, leaves three daughters, Carolyn Furr of Jackson, Retha Dye of Batesville and Corrine Watts of Memphis; five sons, Jerald Brewer of Memphis, Dean Brewer of Tampa, Fla., and Warren Brewer, Walter Brewer and Jimmy Brewer, all of Camden; a sister, Mamie Melton of Arizona, 22 grandchildren and 37 great-grandchildren. CAMDEN - Cozy Elizabeth Conley, 85, died Saturday at Valley Regional Hospital after a long illness. Services will be at 4 p.m. today at Oakdale Funeral Home with burial at 11 a.m. Tuesday at Eastview Cemetery. She was a member of Natchez Trace Baptist Church. Mrs. Conley, the wife of John W. Conley, also leaves two daughters, Mildred McCurdy of Camden and Jewell Rick of Milton, Fla.; two sons, Elbert Conley of Madison, Wis., and Garner Conley of Palos Hills, Ill.; three half-sisters, Virginia Kelly and Mornie Kelly, both of Camden, and Irene Thomas of Memphis; 15 grandchildren and 25 great- grandchildren. COVINGTON - Mary L. O'Steen, 87, died Saturday at Geriatrics Nursing Center in West Memphis, Ark. Services will be at 2 p.m. today at Maley-Yarbrough Funeral Home with burial in Munford Cemetery. Mrs. O'Steen, the widow of Jesse T. O'Steen, leaves a brother, Arthur H. Jackson of West Memphis. HUMBOLDT - Jessie Franklin Flippin, 82, retired mop and broom dealer, died Sunday at HCA Regional Hospital in Jackson after a short illness. Services will be at 2 p.m. today at Hunt Funeral Home with burial in Rose Hill Cemetery. Mr. Flippin, the husband of Mannie Flippin, also leaves three sisters, Mattie Hicks of Humboldt, Ossie Dunnagan of Trenton and Ivie Long of Atwood; three grandchildren, four great-grandchildren and two great-great- grandchildren. HUMBOLDT - Elise Rainey, 76, died Sunday at Humboldt General Hospital. Services will be at 2 p.m. Tuesday at Gospel Tabernacle Church, where she was a member, with burial in Rose Hill Cemetery. Hunt Funeral Home here has charge. Mrs. Rainey, the widow of Hollis Rainey, leaves three daughters, Ann Stallings and Linda Bolin, both of Humboldt, and Ruby Litton of Trenton; three sons, William Rainey of Humboldt, John Rainey of Cornelia, Ga., and Wayne Rainey of Brownsville; two brothers, Jessie Hargrove and Hershel Hargrove, both of Franklin; 21 grandchildren and 25 great-grandchildren. JACKSON - Connie E. Cagle, 80, died Friday at Hardin County Nursing Home in Savannah. Services will be at 2 p.m. today at Lawrence-Sorensen Funeral Home with burial in Highland Memorial Gardens. Mrs. Cagle, the widow of Ramon V. Cagle, leaves two daughters, Faye Payne and Donna Hinson, both of Savannah; three sons, Granville Cagle of Arlington, Charles R. Hunt of Lexington and John W. Hunt of Hawaii; a sister, Edith Vaughn of Birmingham; two brothers, Charlie Owen of Hohenwald and Robert Owen of Maryland; 12 grandchildren and 19 great-grandchildren. JACKSON - Seicle B. Gibbons, 93, died Saturday at HCA Regional Hospital after a short illness. Services will be at 11 a.m. today at Lawrence-Sorensen Funeral Home with burial in Fairview Cemetery in Newbern. Mrs. Gibbons, the widow of N. P. Gibbons, leaves a son, Sidney D. Kirby of Jackson; a stepdaughter, Sue Raschke of Chicago; a stepson, George M. Gibbons of Memphis; a sister, Bessie Mae Scott of Trezevant; three brothers, Hershall Baumgardner of Cedar Grove, Priest Baumgardner of Lavinia and Leroy Baumgardner of Paducah, Ky., and five grandchildren. LEXINGTON - Ray B. Azbill, 86, retired farmer, died Saturday at Lexington Manor. Services will be at 2 p.m. today at Reed's Chapel with burial in Hare Cemetery. He leaves a daughter, Doris Mae Azbill, and a son, Billy Ray Azbill, both of Lexington, four grandchildren and five great-grandchildren. LEXINGTON - Margaret Reed Burrus, 70, native of Henderson County, died Sunday at Jackson-Madison County General Hospital. Services will be at 2 p.m. today at Pafford Funeral Home with burial in Richmond (Ky.) Cemetery. She was a member of First Baptist Church here and Women's Missionary Union. Mrs. Burrus, the wife of William Nelson Burrus, also leaves two daughters, Ginger Burrus of Denver, and Pat Lewis of Louisville, Ky.; two sisters, Nancy Blankenship of Lexington and Dean Ozier of Greenville, Ky.; two brothers, Ernest E. Reed Jr. of Lexington and William P. Reed of Scotts Hill; four grandchildren and a great-granddaughter. MARTIN - Flora Belle Gardner Latta, 84, food service supervisor for University of Tennessee at Martin, died Saturday at Volunteer General Hospital. Services will be at 11 a.m. today at Murphy Funeral Home with burial in Tansils Cemetery in Sharon. She was a member of Martin Cumberland Presbyterian Church. Mrs. Latta, the widow of William Charles Latta, leaves three daughters, Reva Jane Hendrix of Granbury, Texas, and Mary Ann Robertson and Diane Latta, both of Martin; two sons, James Franklin Latta of Dresden and Charles Latta of Martin; a stepdaughter, Dorothy Ryan of Martin; a sister, Euleane Bell of Sharon, 16 grandchildren and 19 great-grandchildren. MARTIN - Byron P. Tucker, 86, of Bonne Terre, Mo., retired assistant director of the Veterans Administration for the State of Tennessee, died Saturday at Volunteer General Hospital. Graveside services were Sunday at East Side Cemetery. Murphy Funeral Home had charge. Mr. Tucker, the widower of Ruth Brandon Tucker, leaves a sister, Dorothy T. Yard, and a brother, Preston G. Tucker Jr., both of Nashville. MILAN - Jerry Ewing Cannon, 52, retired electrician, died Saturday at Somerville (Tenn.) Health Care Center after a long illness. Services will be at 1 p.m. today at Antioch Baptist Church Cemetery near Humboldt. Bodkin Funeral Home has charge. He was a Navy veteran. He leaves a daughter, Tracy Lynn Cannon, and a son, Michael Cannon, both of Milan, and a sister, Jean Gregg of Bellingham, Wash. RIPLEY - James Wathen Kee, 84, of Memphis, formerly of Ripley, Tenn., retired street sales manager for The Commercial Appeal after 40 years, died Saturday at Bright Glade Convalescent Center. Graveside services will be at 2 p.m. Tuesday at Maplewood Cemetery. Yarbrough Funeral Home in Ripley has charge. He was a member of Melville Methodist Church in Nankipoo, Tenn., a Mason, and served with Patton's Third Army as a radar expert in Germany and Czechoslovakia during World War II. Mr. Kee, the husband of Margaret Bass Kee, also leaves a daughter, Stella Fenwick Kee of Memphis; a son, Dr. James Wathen Kee Jr. of Martin, Tenn., and four sisters, Mrs. Ralph L. Noyes of Memphis, Mrs. John L. Ricks of Chesterfield, Mo., Mrs. Harold F. Thomas of Birmingham, and Mrs. J. Manning Nelson of Newport, Ore. RIPLEY - Donna Fay Wilson, 39, died Saturday at Baptist Memorial Hospital- Lauderdale. Services will be at 2 p.m. Tuesday at Garner Funeral Home with burial in Lightfoot Cemetery. She was a member of Eastland Baptist Church. Mrs. Wilson, the wife of Danny Wesley Wilson, also leaves a daughter, Lisa Marie Ballard, and a son, John Wesley Ballard, both of Henning; her father and stepmother, Bill and Shirley Stephens of Ripley; three sisters, Virginia Midgett and Mary Lou Mount, both of Ripley, and Betty Jean Hamrick of Unionville; and two brothers, Charles Stephens and Danny Stephens, both of Ripley. SELMER - Martha Etta Taylor, 56, died Saturday at McNairy County General Hospital in Selmer. Services will be at 11 a.m. Tuesday at Shackelford Funeral Home in Selmer with burial in Woodville Cemetery near Bethel Springs. She was a member of Unity Baptist Church in Ramer. Mrs. Taylor, the wife of James Talmadge Taylor, also leaves a daughter, Martha Louise Saxton of Bethel Springs; a son, Steven Baker of Selmer; two stepdaughters, Jamie Presgrove of Memphis and Bonnie Adamo of Denver; her mother, Nicie Hatch, and a sister, Mary Elizabeth Hatch, both of Selmer; two brothers, James Wilbur Hatch of Bethel Springs and Douglas Hatch of Selmer, three grandchildren and three stepgrandchildren. ughters, Jamie Presgrove of Memphis and Bonnie Adamo of Denver; = her mother, Nicie Hatch, and a sister, Mary Elizabeth Hatch, both of = Selmer; two brothers, James Wilbur Hatch of Bethel Springs and Douglas = Hatch of Selmer, three grandchildren and three stepgrandchildren.=20

For a very large list of immigrant passenger lists try: http://istg.rootsweb.com/ Vince Hughes http://www.my-ged.com/hughes/

If anyone has access to the 1880 census, please look up all McCartneys in the census for me. I would appreciate it a lot. Also, if you have time, look up Knott family members for me as well. Adam _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Fellow Gibson Researchers, I have a copy of the map that is posted on the site that I photocopied from a book that it was in. My question is "Does anyone know where I might get a full-sized version of it?". Harvey Williamson and Rutherford Counties have the larger format maps available and I would hope that the Gibson County map would be available as well.

I would like to invite everyone that hasn't checked recently to read the new additions to the Old Letters on the Old Photos page. Cat Edwards has submitted some remarkable letters. I have posted several but not all. They will be the Addie Jones letters. Please go by and get a glimpse of some of the very real problems and joys our ancestors faced. Drop Cat a line if you like them. Me a line if something isn't working. Milton http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/photos/photos.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Volunteer of "Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness" at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm

Did anyone read the story about Mary Jane McCartney getting buried in the Pratt Cemetery? Adam McCartney expanded the story today and you can read it at the bottom of the URL http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/cemeteries/pratt.txt Anyone on the list with any REAL Gibson County GHOST stories? Vicki Gibson County TN CC

> Just to let everyone know to watch out for me. I will be in the Gibson > County area next week to do research and will be traveling all over northern > Gibson County as well as Obion County Harvey, a helpful hint,,,,,,,if walking around some of the old cemetaries in Obion County carry bug spray. Went a few weeks ago and the bugs like to carried me away. And SPIDERS especially at Campground cemetary in Troy were everywhere... bevann

Have a cold one (Coke that is) at Hampton's for us all that can't be with you. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Harvey L. Bottoms <HarveyBottoms@CSI.com> To: <TNGIBSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 2:05 PM Subject: [TNGIBSON-L] Watch Out > Just to let everyone know to watch out for me. I will be in the Gibson > County area next week to do research and will be traveling all over northern > Gibson County as well as Obion County. My cousin, Jane, who lives in Union > City, and a cousin from Dyersburg may be joining me. So we will be digging > deep and hard. Sorry in advance if we happen to toss some dirt on you. I > don't have too much time to cover a large area, see everything and do > research as well. > > Harvey > > ______________________________

Does anyone have access to the 1840 census for Gibson Co? I'm looking for David Barret. Thank you, Tara Barrett TRB1972@aol.com

Curtis, I just saw your note about the Crenshaw-Wyatt Cemetery in Gibson County, Tn. I visited it within the last year because of Wyatt connections in my Walton family ancestors. It is on private land, fenced but in terrible condition--overgrown and many of the tombstones have toppled and broken. It has been many, many years since it was used for burial purposes. Fortunately, it was transcribed in November of 1979 by Emily Walker when it was in better condition. Only nineteen graves are listed, but seven of them are Crenshaw names. If you will tell me the names you are searching for, I will be glad to check for you to see if they are listed, or if you wish, I can send you the listings for all the Crenshaws buried there. The land for the cemetery was given by Archer D. Crenshaw, a pioneer settler of Gibson County. An A. D. Crenshaw, Oct. 28, 1792 -- July 16, 1863 is buried there, which I presume would be Archer D. Crenshaw, the donor of the land. Alice King king@hcol.net ---------- > From: Curtis Lathan <clathan@clsconsulting.com> > To: TNGIBSON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TNGIBSON-L] CRENSHAWs in Gibson Co., TN > Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 1:58 PM > > Hi, I'm new to the list. I'm researching my CRENSHAW family roots in > Gibson County. I've been searching the web site at > www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ and have found a small amount of info > there. I noticed that there is a Crenshaw-Wyatt Cemetery, but it > hasn't been transcribed, yet. Any additional information about them > will be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Curtis Lathan > Colo Spgs, CO > > > Here is what I have so far: > > 1. Archie CRENSHAW; > b. 1792? in Virginia; > d. After Aug 1826 in Dyer, (Gibson Co.) TN > + Nannie ?; > m. ??? > b. 17?? in Virginia; > d. After Aug 1826 in Dyer, (Gibson Co.) TN > > 2. Children of Archie & Nannie > 2A) W.E. CRENSHAW > b. August 26, 1826 in Virginia; > d. March 26, 1900 in TN > + Martha S. HALE; > b. February 19, 1832 in TN; > d. May 30, 1926 in TN > > 3. Children of W.E. & Martha > 3A) Albert Louis CRENSHAW > b. October 24, 1851 in (Gibson Co.) Tennessee; > d. Aft. June 27, 1929 in Texas > + Mattie SHELTON; > m. October 23, 1873 > b. February 16, 1857 in TN; > d. June 10, 1901 in Texas > 3B) Robert L. CRENSHAW > b. June 24, 1854 in Tennessee; > d. 1901 in ??? > + ??? FLOWERS; > m. 1878 > b. ???; > d. 1896 in ??? > 3C) W.V. CRENSHAW > b. September 22, 1862 in TN > d. ??? > + Mollie E. NOLL > m. ??? > b. ??? > d. ??? > 3D) W.J. CRENSHAW > b. August 14, 1866 in TN > d. June 19, 1885 in ??? > 3E) J.P. CRENSHAW > b. March 04, 1877 in TN > d. ??? > > 4. Children of Albert & Mattie > 4A) Robert Abner CRENSHAW > b. September 13, 1875 in Rutherford, (Gibson Co.) > Tennessee > d. November 10, 1947 in NM > + Bertha Eulah STARKEY > m. November 22, 1901 in Rutherford, (Gibson Co.) Tennessee > b. February 19, 1881 in TX > d. October 18, 1965 in TX > 4B) Jessie M. CRENSHAW > b. May 17, 1878 in TX > d. September 13, 1934 > + ? KELLER > 4C) William J. CRENSHAW > b. June 04, 1880 in TX > d. Abt. December 25 in NM > + Ritta M. MOSS > m. Abt. 1901 > b. June 1880 in TX > d. ??? > 4D) Rosa CRENSHAW > b. December 04, 1882 in TX > d. December 29, 1964 > + Reginald Blew Page > 4E) Mae E. CRENSHAW > b. March 22, 1885 in TX > + Edd MOORE > 4F) N.O. CRENSHAW > b. May 30, 1887 in TX > + Will WOLTRIP > 4G) Asa Albert CRENSHAW > b. October 25, 1889 in TX > d. September 1975 in TX > + Elvira LEON > m. September 02, 1929 in AZ > b. November 23, 1904 in Mexico > d. November 1965 in AZ > 4H) Nina L. CRENSHAW > b. May 24, 1892 in TX > + Ed WILLOUGHBY > b. July 08, 1890 > 4I) Eula CRENSHAW > b. January 07, 1895 > d. March 17, 1897 > > >

Just to let everyone know to watch out for me. I will be in the Gibson County area next week to do research and will be traveling all over northern Gibson County as well as Obion County. My cousin, Jane, who lives in Union City, and a cousin from Dyersburg may be joining me. So we will be digging deep and hard. Sorry in advance if we happen to toss some dirt on you. I don't have too much time to cover a large area, see everything and do research as well. Harvey