This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReB.2ACE/2388 Message Board Post: Calling all families with Coffee Co., TN connections! We've extended our deadline for family & topical submissions for the new book; The Heritage of Coffee Co., TN - 2004. We want to give everyone a chance to be included in our beautiful new book! Here's the website with more info: http://www.coffeecountyheritage.homestead.com. Our brochure Page 3 gives details about submitting family stories; see items I and II. A .PDF file may be viewed by clicking on: http://www.coffeecountyheritage.homestead.com/brochureinfo.html All who are able we invite to attend our regular monthly meeting;Monday, Oct. 27, 6:30 PM at Duck River Electric in Manchester.

We have a link for the Young family on our family links page and it no longer works. I can't remember who sent it. Does anyone know what happened to it or if it's been moved? Thanks, Vicki

Thanks to all those who wrote about the Crocker mystery, especially Ann Tabor. It's been solved. The C. O. Crocker and family that is listed in the 1920 census is actually: Family Group Record for Eligaha "Lige" CROCKER Husband Eligaha "Lige" CROCKER Born: 1882 - Tennessee Died: February 1932 - Tennessee Buried: - Poplar Springs Baptist Church Cemetery, Gibson Co., Tennessee Father: Henry Jefferson CROCKER Sr. (1850-1926) Mother: Sarah Frances CUPP (1856-1883) Married: 1906 - Gibson Co., Tennessee Wife Florence WALKER Born: 1886 Died: 1948 - Tennessee Buried: - Poplar Springs Baptist Church Cemetery, Gibson Co., Tennessee Children 1 F Inell CROCKER Born: 17 April 1908 Died: 8 May 1979 - Tennessee Buried: - Poplar Springs Baptist Church Cemetery, Gibson Co., Tennessee Spouse: Buman H. CROCKER (1899-1967) Marr: 1934 - Gibson Co., Tennessee (Son of Albert T. "Doc" and Dorcus Bryant Crocker) See my Crocker surname page, Eldad and Poplar Springs Cemeteries for more info. Sources available on request. http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/cemeteries/surnames/crocker.html Thanks again. Barry

My bounced email problem has been fixed. Please resend any emails that were returned. Bettye [email protected]

Roy, if you are on the list could you contact me? Thanks, Vicki

1920 Federal Population Census District 14, Outside Bradford House Number 29 CROCKER C.O. HEAD M W 37 M TN TN TN CATTLE DEALER FLORENCE WIFE F W 32 M TN TN TN INELL DTR F W 11 S TN TN TN G.R. SON M W 8 S TN TN TN Who is this C. O. Crocker? Father and mother? Thanks for any help. Barry Crocker

Seeking information on James Sloan Alexander. He married an Elliot lady and they had several children. He moved from Mecklenburg co NC to Gibson co TN. James Sloan Alexander b. 1820 m. abt 1843 to Elizabeth Elliot d. 1901, Red River co TX Cathy Bell [email protected]

Hey All! Adam McCartney has surveyed Section 2 of the Oakwood Cemetery in Milan. It's now posted at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/cemeteries/oakwood-milan2.htm . Thanks Cousin Adam! Barry

Dyersburg is in Dyer Co., TN. You might have better luck on the Dyer Co list than this one, if you need lookups in Dyer Co. records. Are your parents still living, and if not, do you know where they died and were buried? If you don't know, you can probably still find them because their names are not the most common. Dyersburg may be big enough to have a city directory. You can check to see when their names disappeared from the city directory. You can check the addresses where they lived and if they moved a lot, they probably rented their home, rather than owned. But if they stayed in one place, you can ask for a check of the deed records to see when they bought and sold their home. Do you know when and where your parents were married, and when and where they were divorced (assuming they were divorced). Do you have birth dates or approximate years of birth for them? If you think they were married in Dyersburg, you can ask on the mailing list for that county if someone could look up their marriage license. On the off chance that they were married in Gibson Co. (not too far from Dyersburg), the marriages up to 1950 have been published, and many of them posted on the Gibson Co. genweb page. Have you talked to all of your parents, parents' living siblings, and their children, and your siblings? It's easier to get information from the living than to find it after they're dead. You can check the Social Security Death Index if they died after about 1963, and you know your mother's last married name. The index I use the most is at www.rootsweb.com. If you enter the name there, one of the options is the SSDI. You need an approximate date of death to check the TN Death Index because it is indexed a single year at a time. I think indices are available for up to about 1945. The index is in the state library in Nashville, and probably some other libraries. Each of your parents should be listed as children in the 1920 census. They should be a minimum of 1-5 years old then (to have a child in 1935). They may be listed in the 1930 census as children with their parents, or they could be on their own or even married by then. The censuses would give you a year of birth, which could help with finding them in the SSDI. You didn't say where your mother moved to and whether you had checked for a record of her death there. If you don't get a volunteer to look for Dyer Co. records, you can call the courthouse there and ask what they charge to look up a record. Some courthouses in TN charge as little as $2, which includes the copy if they find something. The address and phone number for the courthouse is usually on the County genweb page. Sue -- Jas L Smith <[email protected]> wrote: I was born in Dyersburg,TN in 1935 and mt parents names are Mother: Zula Anna Bell Lowerey and Father: William Thomas Coley, They were separated before I was born and my Mother moved from Dyersburg when I was about six years old. f I am trying to find information about them and hope some one can help me. Thanks Martha Sue Smith ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

--part1_a6.3dbb167d.2cb5f009_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I received this message but did not receive the one by Jas. Smith. Is there a problem? I went to the archives and Octobers messages are not posted. Mary June --part1_a6.3dbb167d.2cb5f009_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-xh03.mx.aol.com (rly-xh03.mail.aol.com [172.20.115.232]) by air-xh02.mail.aol.com (v96.8) with ESMTP id MAILINXH21-49a3f8483df22c; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:39:36 -0400 Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists7.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.39]) by rly-xh03.mx.aol.com (v96.8) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXH38-49a3f8483df22c; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 17:38:46 -0400 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id h98LcEHF019330; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:38:14 -0600 Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:38:14 -0600 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Wed Oct 8 15:38:14 2003 X-Originating-IP: [68.86.10.32] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Original-From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:36:31 GMT Old-To: [email protected] Old-Cc: [email protected] X-Mailer: WebMail Version 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected]> Subject: [Tngibson] Re: Lowerey/Coley Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/2675 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] X-AOL-IP: 207.40.200.39 Dyersburg is in Dyer Co., TN. You might have better luck on the Dyer Co list than this one, if you need lookups in Dyer Co. records. Are your parents still living, and if not, do you know where they died and were buried? If you don't know, you can probably still find them because their names are not the most common. Dyersburg may be big enough to have a city directory. You can check to see when their names disappeared from the city directory. You can check the addresses where they lived and if they moved a lot, they probably rented their home, rather than owned. But if they stayed in one place, you can ask for a check of the deed records to see when they bought and sold their home. Do you know when and where your parents were married, and when and where they were divorced (assuming they were divorced). Do you have birth dates or approximate years of birth for them? If you think they were married in Dyersburg, you can ask on the mailing list for that county if someone could look up their marriage license. On the off chance that they were married in Gibson Co. (not too far from Dyersburg), the marriages up to 1950 have been published, and many of them posted on the Gibson Co. genweb page. Have you talked to all of your parents, parents' living siblings, and their children, and your siblings? It's easier to get information from the living than to find it after they're dead. You can check the Social Security Death Index if they died after about 1963, and you know your mother's last married name. The index I use the most is at www.rootsweb.com. If you enter the name there, one of the options is the SSDI. You need an approximate date of death to check the TN Death Index because it is indexed a single year at a time. I think indices are available for up to about 1945. The index is in the state library in Nashville, and probably some other libraries. Each of your parents should be listed as children in the 1920 census. They should be a minimum of 1-5 years old then (to have a child in 1935). They may be listed in the 1930 census as children with their parents, or they could be on their own or even married by then. The censuses would give you a year of birth, which could help with finding them in the SSDI. You didn't say where your mother moved to and whether you had checked for a record of her death there. If you don't get a volunteer to look for Dyer Co. records, you can call the courthouse there and ask what they charge to look up a record. Some courthouses in TN charge as little as $2, which includes the copy if they find something. The address and phone number for the courthouse is usually on the County genweb page. Sue -- Jas L Smith <[email protected]> wrote: I was born in Dyersburg,TN in 1935 and mt parents names are Mother: Zula Anna Bell Lowerey and Father: William Thomas Coley, They were separated before I was born and my Mother moved from Dyersburg when I was about six years old. f I am trying to find information about them and hope some one can help me. Thanks Martha Sue Smith ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ --part1_a6.3dbb167d.2cb5f009_boundary--

I was born in Dyersburg,TN in 1935 and mt parents names are Mother: Zula Anna Bell Lowerey and Father: William Thomas Coley, They were separated before I was born and my Mother moved from Dyersburg when I was about six years old. I am trying to find information about them and hope some one can help me. Thanks Martha Sue Smith

Hello - Does anyone know what Mary J. Dowland's maiden name is? She married Robert Dowland before the 1870 census and it looks like her father was from North Carlina. Any help would be great. Thanks Patrick Dolan 1880 Census Data District 17: 260 Robert DOWLAND W M 33 Head M Farmer TN NC TN Mary J. DOWLAND W F 35 Wife M Keeping House TN NC TN Harpy F. DOWLAND W F 13 Dau S At Home TN TN TN Green M DOWLAND W M 11 Son S Farm Laborer TN TN TN Louanna M. DOWLAND W F 9 Dau S At Home TN TN TN John H. DOWLAND W M 6 Son S At Home TN TN TN Virgina DOWLAND W F 4 Dau S At Home TN TN TN Hilbern DOWLAND W M 2 Son S At Home TN TN TN Samuel P. DOWLAND W M 1 Son S At Home TN TN TN __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

Linda Cottrell has completed the transcription of 1880 Gibson Dist No. 15 and it is now on line at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/census/1880/1880-dist15.txt A huge thanks to Linda! We're making progress on the 1880 census! Also I finished all of Humboldt. Vicki

>From Patricia Parrish Austin: [email protected] Please reply to Patricia! ================================================================================== Vicki Shaffer (USGenWeb Coordinator for Gibson County, Tennessee: Barring an unforseen act of providence, a group of Gibson County researchers with kindred dead there interred, are going to start reading Hope Hill Cemetery to place on the Gibson County USGenWeb site. Hope Hill is east of Medina on Hope Hill Road with a Milan route. We propose to meet at Hope Hill this Wednesday about 9:30 a.m. It is my intention to photograph each marker for the Tombstone project, plus hope to finally wrangle a GPS from my spouse to delinate each marker's actual location. This will be time consuming, and I can't imagine that we'll do it in a day! Austin, my spouse has a metal fabrication business and made some of us wire probes years ago. We intend to probe for, and hopefully unearth a few markers that grass and time have covered. Vicki, do you have any suggestions? I've assisted in reading cemeteries so am not a novice, and make certain that any cleaning of markers is within archival parameters. Perchance, would there be others in the vicinity who wish to assist? As we are all dealing with chemotherapy, shingles, degenerative lumbar disease, etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum, and numerous other perils of aging the group of us who plan to do this are going to remain flexible (well, that's a joke...i.e., the "flexible" part!!!) and all events will be subject to cancellation depending upon the vagaries of nature and physical debilation! Patricia Parrish Lewis Humboldt, TN

I just finished the town of Humboldt census 1880. http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/census/1880/1880-dist3.txt Everyone who had family there, please check it out and let me know of errors. This enumerator had bad handwriting, plus couldn't spell very well. I had a real hard time with it. So check your family and let me know of errors, please! Vicki

Along these same lines, when my great aunt gave birth to a baby boy in 1920, the mid-wife asked what they wanted to name him. My Aunt Allie couldn't think decide right away since this was her sixth child, so my grandmother (Aunt Allie's sister) spoke up and jokingly said, "Oh, just call him Peter Rabbit". Aunt Allie went on to name her son Enoch. When Enoch joined the service during WWII he found out from his first look at his birth certificate that the mid-wife had recorded his name as Peter Robert. Myra ----- Original Message ----- From: Vicki To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [Tngibson] UN named babies That's makes sense. Maybe they just called them "baby" until the next one came along. I've never seen it on a first child either. And now, not only do they have a name immediately, but a social security number! I kept thinking maybe a neighbor gave the information, as I know of at least 2 censuses with my Wilsons where none of the family (I hope) gave the information. Or maybe it came from one of the younger children. Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: [Tngibson] UN named babies > Hi Vicki: > > I have seen instances where the child is up to one year old, > and still listed as 'baby' or a blank space for given name. > These are nearly all pre-1880. You never know what the > circumstances are, but it occurs enough to make me think > that it was not uncommon to delay naming. Since there was > no official recording of births, there was no pressure to > assign the child a name immediately. One other note, > I have never seen a case where the unnamed child > was the first born, usually it would be at least the 3d child > or later in birth order. > > Dennis West in Knoxville, TN > Gibson co. surnames: PARKER, BLANKINSHIP, SLAYTON > ===== > Vicki wrote: > When the census taker listed a child as "Baby", do you think it was > because the folks weren't home and he got info from next door > neighbors? > > Some of these "babies" are way to old not to have a name! Or was > this a common practice not to name a newborn for a while? > > Ideas? > > Vicki > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/

Sometimes they were not named until after they were christened. I have not noticed this so much in "American" records but in Germany it was very common. Mary June Knoxville

Hi Vicki: I have seen instances where the child is up to one year old, and still listed as 'baby' or a blank space for given name. These are nearly all pre-1880. You never know what the circumstances are, but it occurs enough to make me think that it was not uncommon to delay naming. Since there was no official recording of births, there was no pressure to assign the child a name immediately. One other note, I have never seen a case where the unnamed child was the first born, usually it would be at least the 3d child or later in birth order. Dennis West in Knoxville, TN Gibson co. surnames: PARKER, BLANKINSHIP, SLAYTON ===== Vicki wrote: When the census taker listed a child as "Baby", do you think it was because the folks weren't home and he got info from next door neighbors? Some of these "babies" are way to old not to have a name! Or was this a common practice not to name a newborn for a while? Ideas? Vicki

That's makes sense. Maybe they just called them "baby" until the next one came along. I've never seen it on a first child either. And now, not only do they have a name immediately, but a social security number! I kept thinking maybe a neighbor gave the information, as I know of at least 2 censuses with my Wilsons where none of the family (I hope) gave the information. Or maybe it came from one of the younger children. Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 6:38 PM Subject: [Tngibson] UN named babies > Hi Vicki: > > I have seen instances where the child is up to one year old, > and still listed as 'baby' or a blank space for given name. > These are nearly all pre-1880. You never know what the > circumstances are, but it occurs enough to make me think > that it was not uncommon to delay naming. Since there was > no official recording of births, there was no pressure to > assign the child a name immediately. One other note, > I have never seen a case where the unnamed child > was the first born, usually it would be at least the 3d child > or later in birth order. > > Dennis West in Knoxville, TN > Gibson co. surnames: PARKER, BLANKINSHIP, SLAYTON > ===== > Vicki wrote: > When the census taker listed a child as "Baby", do you think it was > because the folks weren't home and he got info from next door > neighbors? > > Some of these "babies" are way to old not to have a name! Or was > this a common practice not to name a newborn for a while? > > Ideas? > > Vicki > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ >

I am still working on Humboldt's 1880 census and have a question for everyone and maybe I'll get some kind of discussion started...........(hope) When the census taker listed a child as "Baby", do you think it was because the folks weren't home and he got info from next door neighbors? Some of these "babies" are way to old not to have a name! Or was this a common practice not to name a newborn for a while? Ideas? Vicki