TERESA I would be delighted if there turns out to be some kind of a connection. "Puzzle pieces have been found in the most unusual places. They never seem to stay in the box." <grin> Did you happen to have the dates? mema ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deetees" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > Might there be a connection to "our Lydia" ? > Teresa > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Teresa, I was thinking about you, and wondering how your schooling was going. When I got out this BELL family work sheet. I am tying to dig out all that information that I have stuck here and there, to get it on my new Legacy program, so I get at it quickly. I have you listed in my BELL book so that I will not forget you. Take care

yes, TN became a state in 1796. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:22 PM Subject: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Pat, > I get just as excited when I can share family information, as when I find a piece of the puzzle myself. > > Below I will post some information that came to me from a "distant KZN" that is a whiz in the research, and very generous. > > One of the things she advised me to get was a Delux Legacy 5.0 ancestry program to install all my information onto as I went.....well, I cannot tell you how IMPORTANT that is for you to do, right now, in the beginning of your research on your family. I am playing catch-up with putting my stored information onto my new Delux Legacy 5.0 program, but I am loving every minute of it. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Here is the work sheet for the families I mentioned to you that are related by marriage: > > Grissom family > father: Unknown Grissom (maybe John) > mother: Mary Unknown b:NC > Children: > Stephen Grissom - 1816 - North Carolina > [Thomas Grissom could be a sibling b: 1817-18 NC?] > Candis Grissom - 1821 - North Carolina > Allen Grissom - 1824 - North Carolina > Eleanor Grissom - 1828 - Tennessee > [WH Grissom could be a sibling b: 1830 TN?] > Willis B Grissom - 1833 - Alabama > Malvina Grissom - 1836 - Alabama > Taking in their migration, they were in Wilson Co. TN in 1847& 1848 & 1850 in Gibson Co TN > ************************************************************************ > It has never been proven where Nancy Clorence/Clorance Stubblefield was born 1800. some say TN, some say SC but with these families that are married into the three families coming from NC it seems to me that we might find that Nancy came from NC too. > I wonder if NC had split off TN by 1800? I think so ! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > Someone sent me this : > 1850 Gibson Co., TN census (all the Bells) > Bell Alexander 5 Tenn pg 0123a.txt > 137a 11 Bell Alexander 8 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 284b 39 Bell Andrew 18 Ten pg0279a.txt > 136b 12 Bell Ann 12 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 11 Bell Caroline 4 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 284b 36 Bell Eldridge P. 25 NC pg0279a.txt > 284b 37 Bell Eleanor 21 Ten pg0279a.txt > 137a 7 Bell Elijah 35 Ala pg0134a.txt > 153a 12 Bell Elinor 3 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 137a 12 Bell Eliza 7 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 9 Bell Elizabeth 8 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 239b 26 Bell Elizabeth 24 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 306a 8 Bell Elizabeth 17 NC pg0301b.txt > 279b 36 Bell Frances 25 Ten pg0279a.txt > 136b 14 Bell George 9 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 137a 9 Bell George 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 279b 37 Bell George 21 Ten pg0279a.txt > 153a 4 Bell H. M. 41 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 128a 16 Bell Isabella 1 Tenn pg0123a.txt > 136b 10 Bell James 42 SC pg0134a.txt > 137a 10 Bell James 10 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 257a 38 Bell James 33 NC pg0256 b.txt > 280a 10 Bell James 27 Ten pg0279a.txt > 204a 16 Bell James G. 45 NC pg0200a.txt > 204a 17 Bell Jane 50 NC pg0200a.txt > 128a 13 Bell John 6 Tenn pg0123a.txt > 153a 8 Bell John 13 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 306a 7 Bell John 27 NC pg0301b.txt > 206a 10 Bell John W. 23 Tenn pg0200a.txt > 137a 15 Bell Jonah 4/12 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 13 Bell Joseph 6/12 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 284b 38 Bell Lydia 55 NC pg0279a.txt > 239b 28 Bell Margaret 7 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 136b 13 Bell Margarett 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 136b 16 Bell Martha 4 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 137a 13 Bell Mary 5 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 10 Bell Mary 6 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 136b 11 Bell Michal 40 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 5 Bell Minerva 34 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 137a 8 Bell Nancy 32 NC pg0134a.txt > 137a 14 Bell Neill 3 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 257a 37 Bell Penelope 58 NC pg0256b.txt > 279b 35 Bell Priscilla 44 NC pg0279a.txt > 204a 18 Bell Rachael 28 NC pg0200a.txt > 128a 15 Bell Rebecca 4 Tenn pg0123a.txt > 136b 17 Bell Robert 2 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 6 Bell Robert 19 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 257a 40 Bell Robert 17 Tenn pg0256b.txt > 306a 9 Bell Robt. 3/12 Ten pg0301b.txt > 136b 15 Bell Sarah 6 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 239b 29 Bell Sarah 5 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 280a 11 Bell Susan 18 Ten pg0279a.txt > 128a 11 Bell Telitha 25 NC pg0123a.txt > 239b 25 Bell Tho's F. 26 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 128a 10 Bell Valentine 73 SC pg0123a.txt > 279b 34 Bell Valentine 65 SC pg0279a.txt > 128a 12 Bell William 8 Tenn pg0123a.txt > 153a 7 Bell William 17 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 239b 27 Bell William 23 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 257a 39 Bell William 22 Tenn pg0256b.txt > 257a 36 Bell Wm. A. 65 NC pg0256b.txt > At one time I had this list sorted into families by the first letters in each line.it was pretty interesting...I'll work on it to see what I can find this time. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Bell Family > father: possibly James Bell > mother: Lydia [Perhaps Chapman] > ?Marriage?: 25 Apr 1814 - Chatham County, North Carolina > Children: > Eldridge P Bell - 1824 - North Carolina > Bethenia Bell - 1825 - Tennessee > Andrew Bell - 1831 - Tennessee > and others ,older, I'm sure we are missing > [? older children born between 1814 and 1823 were moved out] > > 1850 Gibson Co., TN Census > LYDIA BELL ,55, F, W, NC > ELDRIDGE P. BELL 25, M, W, NC > (Bethenia would fit in here) > ELEANOR BELL, 21, F, W, TN > ANDREW BELL, 18, M, E, TN. > > That information would indicate that this family moved from NC to TN about 1832. > > GIBSON COUNTY, TENNESSEE MARRIAGES > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/tn+index+400261523892+F > > BELL, Andrew marr. YEATES, Parolle on 21-OCT-1852 > ************************************************************************ > Marriages of these families: > > John S Stubblefield to Bethenia Bell - 17 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Eldridge P Bell to Eleanor Grissom - 30 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Andrew Bell to Parolee Yeates(Yates) - 21 Oct 1852 - Gibson County, Tennessee ( I have another connection of Parolee Yeates/Yates to other families of interest to be posted later) > > Stephen Grissom to Ann Eliza (?) Grissom - 9 Mar 1841 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Ridious Bridges to Candis Grissom - Can't Remember - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Allen Grissom to Malinda Stubblefield - 13 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Willis B Grissom to Margarette Cash - 3 Oct 1854 - Gibson County, Tennessee > > Note:All three families intermarried. > Allen Grissom married Malinda Stubblefield. > Allen's sister Eleanor Grissom married Eldridge Bell. > Eldridge's sister Bethenia Bell married John Stubblefield. > (Big Circle) > ************************************************************************ > Census Records for these families > > 1850 Gibson County Dist# 14 > **But very interesting that they were married Wilson Co TN and moved to Gibson Co.,TN like all the rest. Keeping an eye on this family to see where or if they connect someplace. > > Kinkaid, William J - 21 - born Tennessee > > Kinkaid, Polly - 24 - born Alabama (maybe 2nd marriage?) > > Kinkaid, Martha - 2 - born Tennessee > > Kinkaid, James - 3/12 - born Tennessee > > no mention of our Edwin Chappell - so probably not our Polly > (Edwin Chappell was born in 1840 and was with his Grandmother Nancy Stubblefield in Gibson Co TN by c.1852) I have often wondered why Edwin was with his grandmother, perhaps if Polly gave birth at a very young age (14-15 was not unheard of), but that is about the same time Unknown disapeared too and maybe Polly's husband and Unknown were killed in some kind of skermish with the Indians or whatever????? Still looking for the Chappell family ancestry. > > 1850 Gibson County Dist# 11 > family 2220 > Bell, Eldridge P - 25 - born North Carolina > Bell, Eleanor - 21 - born Tennessee > > family 2221 > Bell, Lydia - 55 - born North Carolina > Bell, Andrew - 18 - born Tennessee > (he is listed as Andy Bell when his widow Paralee (YEATES, Parolle) applied for a Confederate Soldiers Pension) > > family 2223 > Stubblefield, John > m: Bethenia Bell > etc > > family 2224 > Stubblefield, William R > etc > > family 2225 > Stubblefield, Nancy - 45 - Tennessee > Stubblefield, Robert - 18 - born Alabama > Stubblefield, Abraham (Absolom) - 11 - born Alabama > > family 2227 > Grissom, Allen - 25 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Malinda - 20 - born Alabama (Stubblefield) > Grissom, Stephen - 3 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Nancy - 3/12 - born Tennessee > > family 2233 > Grissom, Stephen - 33 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Ann - 26 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Mary - 3 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Mary - 55 - born North Carolina (Allen's Mother) > Grissom, Willis - 16 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Malvina - 13 - born Alabama (Allen's sister) > > 1850 Gibson County Dist 17 > > Bridges, Ridious - 28 - born Alabama (love that name) > Bridges, Candis - 28 - born North Carolina (she is Candis Grissom)(Allen's sister b:1821) > Bridges, John - 9 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Mary - 8 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Matilda - 5 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Nancy - 3 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Martha - 4/12 - born Tennessee > Grissum, Mary - 60 - born North Carolina > (This is a second elderly lady named Mary Griss*m in Gibson Co 1850 census & two children named the same, the ages the same????must be CT error) > Grissum, Willis - 16 - born Tennessee > Grissum, Vina - 14 - born Tennessee > Notice the last three are the same (usual mistakes) as enumerated with Stephen earlier. <grin> > ************************************************************************Step hen Grissom (Allen's brother) and family stayed in TN > Andrew Bell (Bethenia's brother) and family stayed in TN > ********************************************************************** > 1860 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist 11 > > family 1682 (related?) > Grissom, John - 72 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Sarah - 73 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Nancy - 36 - born North Carolina > Whitlock, David - 17 - born Illinois (farm hand) > > family 1683 > Grissom, W.H. - 30 - born Tennessee (This could be another sibling, his age fits in between the others.) > Grissom, Isabella - 28 - born Tennessee > Grissom, John - 8 - born Tennessee (first son named John) > Grissom, William - 6 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Martha - 5 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Sarah - 4 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Elijah - 1 - born Tennessee > > family 1684 > Grissom, Stephen - 42 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Ann - 36 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Mary - 13 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Sarah - 9 - born Tennessee > Grissom, John - 5 - born Tennessee (first son named John) > Grissom, Vinia - 3 - born Tennessee > Grissom, James - 2/12 - born Tennessee > **************************************************** > 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) > (very close to the Stubblefields in Hopkins co., Mt Pleasant is in Titus County, just East of Hopkins Co. TX) > > family 672 > Grissom, Willis B - 36 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Martha - 31 - born Alabama (Do we know who this maiden name is?) > Grissom, John - 14 - born Tennessee (first son named John) (first daughter named Mary) > Grissom, Mary - 12 - Tennessee (there is a big space between Mary 12 yr and Lucy 11 months, or a typo) > Grissom, Lucy M - 11/12 - born Texas (Family to TX by1869) > Bridges, Mary E - 14 - born Texas (b:1856 in TX) > Bridges, James - 12 - born Texas > Bridges, Alfred - 10 - born Texas > (why three Bridges children with this family?) > > family 771 > Grissom, Thomas - 53 - born North Carolina > (I believe he would be a brother to the rest of the Grissoms) (Very likely, b: 1817 in the 1815-1823 space) > Grissom, Mattie - 36 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Willis - 17 - b: AR (named for his brother Willis B ?) > Grissom, Frances - 14 - born Arkansas > Grissom, Emma - 13 - born Arkansas > Grissom, California - 10 - born Arkansas > Grissom, John - 7 - born Texas (Family to Texas by 1863?) > Grissom, Margaret - 5 - born Texas > Grissom, Ida - 1 - born Texas > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Pat, > Here is the 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists your Eldridge P. Bell with the listing of your "Steven" Thomas Bell as a widower with two young children that were born in TX.( I have more questions below) > > family 772 > Bell, Eldridge P - 45 - born North Carolina (Bethenia's brother) > Bell, Eleanor - 41 - born Tennessee (Allen's sister) > Bell, Thomas - 24 - born Tennessee (in TX at least by 1866) > Bell, Liousa - 4- born Texas > Bell, Ella M - 7/12 - born Texas > would guess Thomas is a son and a widower with the two girls > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > family 876 > Bridges, Ridious - 56 - born Alabama > Bridges, Candis - 48 - born North Carolina > (Allen Grissoms's sister) > Bridges, Martha F - 18 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Walker W - 16 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Lorenzo - 14 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Ephriam - 10 - born Texas (moved to TX 1860ish)Bridges, Thomas - 6 - born Texas > Grissom, Vina - 33 - born Alabama (not married) (sister to Allen, Stephen, Candis etc) > ************************************************* > > 1870 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist#14 > > family 49 > Bell, Andy - 38 - born Tennessee (Bethenia's brother) > Bell, Paralee - 38 - born Tennessee (Yeates /Yates) > Bell, Alsa - 16 - born Tennessee > Bell, Mary - 14 - born Tennessee > Bell, Albert - 11 - born Tennessee > Bell, Dezie - 7 - born Tennessee > Bell, James - 5 - born Tennessee > Bell, Nancy - 2 - born Tennessee > Bell, Baby - 1/12 - born Tennessee > ********************************************** > > 1880 Gibson County Tennessee Dist 11 > > family 145 > Grissom, Stephen - 62 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Ann E = 55 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Mary H - 32 - born Tennessee (never married) > Grissom, Sarah L - 29 - born Tennessee (never married) > Grissom, John A - 25 - born Tennessee (widower) > Grissom, James A - 20 - born Tennessee > Grissom, George W - 16 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Stephen - 13 - born Tennessee > ************************************************************************ Did we last see Allen & Malinda/Molinda Stubblefield Grissom in 1850 Gibson Co., TN? That was when Malinda/Molinda's mother Nancy "C" Stubblefield gathered her daughter Martha Stubblefield Williams (w/ Husband William Madison Williams & children & her grandson Edwin Chappell, w/ her two youngest Robert C. & Absolom Stubblefield up, and moved them to CA. Also a Nancy Y. Grissom b: 1941 TN...who later married Edwin Chappell . > (wish I could connect that Nancy "Y" Grissom to these Grissom families.) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > We find Nancy's two older sons (William & John) still in Gibson County, TN in the 1860 census, so they did not make the trek to CA with the rest of the Stubblefield family: > This file was contributed for use in the USGenWeb > Pages 338a - 348b > CENSUS YR: 1860 > TERRITORY: TN > COUNTY: Gibson > DIVISION: District > No. 14 PAGE NO: 338a > REFERENCE: P.O. Lynn Point > > 26 2026 2049 Stubblefield J 27 M Farmer 1,200 1,000 AL > (b: 12 Jun 1827 AL m: c. 1849 d: 11 Feb 1906 > 27 2026 2049 Stubblefield Bethan? 34 F TN > (b: 05 Jan 1824 NC m: c. 1849 TN d: 05 May 1905) > 28 2026 2049 Stubblefield Nancy 11 F TN > (b: 14 Oct 1849 TN M: ? d: 15 Nov 1887) > 29 2026 2049 Stubblefield William Andrew 9 M TN > (b: 15 May 1850 TN m:? d: 17 Feb 1904 > 30 2026 2049 Stubblefield James 8 M TN > (b: 1851 TN m:? d:?) > 31 2026 2049 Stubblefield Martha 6 F TN > (b: 1854 TN m:? d:?) > 32 2026 2049 Stubblefield Ana 3 F TN > (b: c 1855) m:? d:?) > 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield John (P) 1 M TN > (b: c. 1860 m:? d:?) > 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield, Lucricia > (b: c. 1862 TN m: ? d: ?) > **after this census in 1860 in Gibson Co TN. we find that JOHN S.STUBBLEFIELD family had moved to Texas, where they had more children :(had moved to TX between 1862 & 1865) > > BETHENIA / BETTIE STUBBLEFIELD b:1865 d: 22 July 1939 STEPHEN H STUBBLEFIELD b: 11 July 1866 d: 14 Aug 1948 > THOMAS E. STUBBLEFIELD b: 25 Mar 1870 in Hopkins Co., Sulpher Bluff,TX > *********************************** > Pat, > Questions: > The above 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists the Eldridge P. Bell family with your "Steven" Thomas Bell with two young children born in TX indicates that "Steven"Thomas Bell was married two times. > > You have listed: > Steven Thomas Bell, b: 11/14/1845, d: 8/12/1909 > Mary Francis( Fannie) Threlkeld, b: 8/19/1852, d: 2/19/1925 > Children > Charles A. Bell, b: 3/11/1873 > THIS IS THE FIRST CHILD OF THIS MARRIAGE > Which indicates that this is the second marriage of "Steven" Thomas Bell. Do you have the 1880 census for this family that shows the first two children that were listed in the 1870 census: > Bell, Liousa - b: c. 1866 TX would be 14 yrs in 1880 > Bell, Ella M - b: c. 1870 TX would be 10 yrs in 1880. > > Sarah E. Bell, b: 1/15/1876 > Eldridge Perryman Bell, b: 1/12/1877, d: 1/13/1884 > James Henry Bell, b: 12/13/1881 > Mary Ella Bell, b: 2/8/1886, d: 9/17/1887 > Rab Leon Bell, b: 5/18/1887, d: 3/4/1953 > Floy E. Bell, b: 8/9/1893 > > There is a cemetery in Titus County that was dedicated by the R.Bridges family, when I find that I will post it. > > Congratulations on having such a great start to your family research, keep in touch and let me know what you find. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > >

I'm missed the most interesting part of your posting: "Elisha Bell that married Lydia Boshers." Do you have dates that go with those two? Thanks mema ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bettye Seaton Liberty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > The James & Susan Bell and George Bell below are my gg-grandfather's brothers. I am still uncertain who their father was. One of those Valentines might be their grandfather, but have not found all the connections yet. There is also another brother Elisha Bell that married Lydia Boshers. They were in Gibson County in 1860, 1870 and 1880. > > 280a 11 BELL, SUSAN 18 TN > 280a 10 BELL, JAMES 27 TN > > " Line 37 " GEORGE 21 TN " > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mema > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 5:15 PM > Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > > > I have taken the individual BELL members listed in the 1850 Gibson Co.,TN index and placed them in family units according to their > page number and house number: > > You asked about a George & Valentine Bell from SC? > > 1850 Gibson Co.,TN census index: > 279b (pg 0279a txt) > > line 34 BELL, VALENTINE (male) 65 SC > line 35 BELL, PRISCILLA 44 NC > line 36 BELL, FRANCIS 25 TN > line 37 BELL,GEORGE 21 TN > > I have not figured a connection to my Bell family as yet, but find it interesting that these families are numbered living near to > each other: > (1) > *(This one that follows, might connect the two Valentines (in both of these groups) because of the unusual name and the fact they > both come from SC.& also to Lydia because of the living near by) > > > 128a 12 BELL,WILLIAM 8 TN pg 0123a > 128a 16 BELL, ISABELLA 1 TN pg 0123a > 128a 13 BELL, JOHN 6 TN pg 0123a > 128a 14 BELL ALEXANDER 5 TN pg 0123a > 128a 15 BELL, REBECCA 4 TN pg 0123a > 128a 11 BELL, TELITHA 25 TN pg 0123a > 128a 10 BELL, VALENTINE 73 SC pg 0123a > > (2) > *(This one that follows, might be related because of the nearness to JAMES BELL who might be a son of Lydia BELL) > 279b 34 " VALENTINE (male) 65 SC pg 0279a txt > " 36 " FRANCIS 25 TN " > " 37 " GEORGE 21 TN " > " 35 " PRISCILLA 44 NC " > Next door: > (3) > (Could be one of "my" Lydia's sons living near her) > pg 0279a " > 280a 11 BELL, SUSAN 18 TN > 280a 10 BELL, JAMES 27 TN > Close by: > (4) > (*Here is "my" BELL family) > pg 0279a > 284b 36 BELL ELDRIDGE 25 NC > 284b 37 BELL, ELEANOR (nee:Grissom) 21 TN > (Possible son: James Bell listed above) > 284b 38 BELL, LYDIA 55 NC > 284b 39 BELL, ANDREW 18 TN > > Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. > mema > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bettye Seaton Liberty" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 12:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > > > > Do any of you connect to the Bells from S. C. and probably AL. In particular, George Bell and Valentine Bell? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 3:22 PM > > Subject: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2.1.1.1 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Pat, > > I get just as excited when I can share family information, as when I find a piece of the puzzle myself. > > > > Below I will post some information that came to me from a "distant KZN" that is a whiz in the research, and very generous. > > > > One of the things she advised me to get was a Delux Legacy 5.0 ancestry program to install all my information onto as I > went.....well, I cannot tell you how IMPORTANT that is for you to do, right now, in the beginning of your research on your family. > I am playing catch-up with putting my stored information onto my new Delux Legacy 5.0 program, but I am loving every minute of it. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Here is the work sheet for the families I mentioned to you that are related by marriage: > > > > Grissom family > > father: Unknown Grissom (maybe John) > > mother: Mary Unknown b:NC > > Children: > > Stephen Grissom - 1816 - North Carolina > > [Thomas Grissom could be a sibling b: 1817-18 NC?] > > Candis Grissom - 1821 - North Carolina > > Allen Grissom - 1824 - North Carolina > > Eleanor Grissom - 1828 - Tennessee > > [WH Grissom could be a sibling b: 1830 TN?] > > Willis B Grissom - 1833 - Alabama > > Malvina Grissom - 1836 - Alabama > > Taking in their migration, they were in Wilson Co. TN in 1847& 1848 & 1850 in Gibson Co TN > > ************************************************************************ > > It has never been proven where Nancy Clorence/Clorance Stubblefield was born 1800. some say TN, some say SC but with these > families that are married into the three families coming from NC it seems to me that we might find that Nancy came from NC too. > > I wonder if NC had split off TN by 1800? I think so ! > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Someone sent me this : > > 1850 Gibson Co., TN census (all the Bells) > > Bell Alexander 5 Tenn pg 0123a.txt > > 137a 11 Bell Alexander 8 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 284b 39 Bell Andrew 18 Ten pg0279a.txt > > 136b 12 Bell Ann 12 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 153a 11 Bell Caroline 4 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > 284b 36 Bell Eldridge P. 25 NC pg0279a.txt > > 284b 37 Bell Eleanor 21 Ten pg0279a.txt > > 137a 7 Bell Elijah 35 Ala pg0134a.txt > > 153a 12 Bell Elinor 3 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > 137a 12 Bell Eliza 7 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 153a 9 Bell Elizabeth 8 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > 239b 26 Bell Elizabeth 24 Tenn pg0234a.txt > > 306a 8 Bell Elizabeth 17 NC pg0301b.txt > > 279b 36 Bell Frances 25 Ten pg0279a.txt > > 136b 14 Bell George 9 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 137a 9 Bell George 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 279b 37 Bell George 21 Ten pg0279a.txt > > 153a 4 Bell H. M. 41 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > 128a 16 Bell Isabella 1 Tenn pg0123a.txt > > 136b 10 Bell James 42 SC pg0134a.txt > > 137a 10 Bell James 10 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 257a 38 Bell James 33 NC pg0256b.txt > > 280a 10 Bell James 27 Ten pg0279a.txt > > 204a 16 Bell James G. 45 NC pg0200a.txt > > 204a 17 Bell Jane 50 NC pg0200a.txt > > 128a 13 Bell John 6 Tenn pg0123a.txt > > 153a 8 Bell John 13 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > 306a 7 Bell John 27 NC pg0301b.txt > > 206a 10 Bell John W. 23 Tenn pg0200a.txt > > 137a 15 Bell Jonah 4/12 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 153a 13 Bell Joseph 6/12 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > 284b 38 Bell Lydia 55 NC pg0279a.txt > > 239b 28 Bell Margaret 7 Tenn pg0234a.txt > > 136b 13 Bell Margarett 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 136b 16 Bell Martha 4 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 137a 13 Bell Mary 5 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 153a 10 Bell Mary 6 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > 136b 11 Bell Michal 40 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 153a 5 Bell Minerva 34 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > 137a 8 Bell Nancy 32 NC pg0134a.txt > > 137a 14 Bell Neill 3 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 257a 37 Bell Penelope 58 NC pg0256b.txt > > 279b 35 Bell Priscilla 44 NC pg0279a.txt > > 204a 18 Bell Rachael 28 NC pg0200a.txt > > 128a 15 Bell Rebecca 4 Tenn pg0123a.txt > > 136b 17 Bell Robert 2 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 153a 6 Bell Robert 19 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > 257a 40 Bell Robert 17 Tenn pg0256b.txt > > 306a 9 Bell Robt. 3/12 Ten pg0301b.txt > > 136b 15 Bell Sarah 6 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > 239b 29 Bell Sarah 5 Tenn pg0234a.txt > > 280a 11 Bell Susan 18 Ten pg0279a.txt > > 128a 11 Bell Telitha 25 NC pg0123a.txt > > 239b 25 Bell Tho's F. 26 Tenn pg0234a.txt > > 128a 10 Bell Valentine 73 SC pg0123a.txt > > 279b 34 Bell Valentine 65 SC pg0279a.txt > > 128a 12 Bell William 8 Tenn pg0123a.txt > > 153a 7 Bell William 17 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > 239b 27 Bell William 23 Tenn pg0234a.txt > > 257a 39 Bell William 22 Tenn pg0256b.txt > > 257a 36 Bell Wm. A. 65 NC pg0256b.txt > > At one time I had this list sorted into families by the first letters in each line.it was pretty interesting...I'll work on it > to see what I can find this time. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bell Family > > father: possibly James Bell > > mother: Lydia [Perhaps Chapman] > > ?Marriage?: 25 Apr 1814 - Chatham County, North Carolina > > Children: > > Eldridge P Bell - 1824 - North Carolina > > Bethenia Bell - 1825 - Tennessee > > Andrew Bell - 1831 - Tennessee > > and others ,older, I'm sure we are missing > > [? older children born between 1814 and 1823 were moved out] > > > > 1850 Gibson Co., TN Census > > LYDIA BELL ,55, F, W, NC > > ELDRIDGE P. BELL 25, M, W, NC > > (Bethenia would fit in here) > > ELEANOR BELL, 21, F, W, TN > > ANDREW BELL, 18, M, E, TN. > > > > That information would indicate that this family moved from NC to TN about 1832. > > > > GIBSON COUNTY, TENNESSEE MARRIAGES > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/tn+index+400261523892+F > > > > BELL, Andrew marr. YEATES, Parolle on 21-OCT-1852 > > ************************************************************************ > > Marriages of these families: > > > > John S Stubblefield to Bethenia Bell - 17 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > > > Eldridge P Bell to Eleanor Grissom - 30 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > > > Andrew Bell to Parolee Yeates(Yates) - 21 Oct 1852 - Gibson County, Tennessee ( I have another connection of Parolee > Yeates/Yates to other families of interest to be posted later) > > > > Stephen Grissom to Ann Eliza (?) Grissom - 9 Mar 1841 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > > > Ridious Bridges to Candis Grissom - Can't Remember - Wilson County, Tennessee > > > > Allen Grissom to Malinda Stubblefield - 13 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > > > Willis B Grissom to Margarette Cash - 3 Oct 1854 - Gibson County, Tennessee > > > > Note:All three families intermarried. > > Allen Grissom married Malinda Stubblefield. > > Allen's sister Eleanor Grissom married Eldridge Bell. > > Eldridge's sister Bethenia Bell married John Stubblefield. > > (Big Circle) > > ************************************************************************ > > Census Records for these families > > > > 1850 Gibson County Dist# 14 > > **But very interesting that they were married Wilson Co TN and moved to Gibson Co.,TN like all the rest. Keeping an eye on this > family to see where or if they connect someplace. > > > Kinkaid, William J - 21 - born Tennessee > > > Kinkaid, Polly - 24 - born Alabama (maybe 2nd marriage?) > > > Kinkaid, Martha - 2 - born Tennessee > > > Kinkaid, James - 3/12 - born Tennessee > > > no mention of our Edwin Chappell - so probably not our Polly > > (Edwin Chappell was born in 1840 and was with his Grandmother Nancy Stubblefield in Gibson Co TN by c.1852) I have often > wondered why Edwin was with his grandmother, perhaps if Polly gave birth at a very young age (14-15 was not unheard of), but that is > about the same time Unknown disapeared too and maybe Polly's husband and Unknown were killed in some kind of skermish with the > Indians or whatever????? Still looking for the Chappell family ancestry. > > > > 1850 Gibson County Dist# 11 > > family 2220 > > Bell, Eldridge P - 25 - born North Carolina > > Bell, Eleanor - 21 - born Tennessee > > > > family 2221 > > Bell, Lydia - 55 - born North Carolina > > Bell, Andrew - 18 - born Tennessee > > (he is listed as Andy Bell when his widow Paralee (YEATES, Parolle) applied for a Confederate Soldiers Pension) > > > > family 2223 > > Stubblefield, John > > m: Bethenia Bell > > etc > > > > family 2224 > > Stubblefield, William R > > etc > > > > family 2225 > > Stubblefield, Nancy - 45 - Tennessee > > Stubblefield, Robert - 18 - born Alabama > > Stubblefield, Abraham (Absolom) - 11 - born Alabama > > > > family 2227 > > Grissom, Allen - 25 - born North Carolina > > Grissom, Malinda - 20 - born Alabama (Stubblefield) > > Grissom, Stephen - 3 - born Tennessee > > Grissom, Nancy - 3/12 - born Tennessee > > > > family 2233 > > Grissom, Stephen - 33 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > > Grissom, Ann - 26 - born North Carolina > > Grissom, Mary - 3 - born Tennessee > > Grissom, Mary - 55 - born North Carolina (Allen's Mother) > > Grissom, Willis - 16 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) > > Grissom, Malvina - 13 - born Alabama (Allen's sister) > > > > 1850 Gibson County Dist 17 > > > > Bridges, Ridious - 28 - born Alabama (love that name) > > Bridges, Candis - 28 - born North Carolina (she is Candis Grissom)(Allen's sister b:1821) > > Bridges, John - 9 - born Tennessee > > Bridges, Mary - 8 - born Tennessee > > Bridges, Matilda - 5 - born Tennessee > > Bridges, Nancy - 3 - born Tennessee > > Bridges, Martha - 4/12 - born Tennessee > > Grissum, Mary - 60 - born North Carolina > > (This is a second elderly lady named Mary Griss*m in Gibson Co 1850 census & two children named the same, the ages the > same????must be CT error) > > Grissum, Willis - 16 - born Tennessee > > Grissum, Vina - 14 - born Tennessee > > Notice the last three are the same (usual mistakes) as enumerated with Stephen earlier. <grin> > > ************************************************************************Stephen Grissom (Allen's brother) and family stayed in > TN > > Andrew Bell (Bethenia's brother) and family stayed in TN > > ********************************************************************** > > 1860 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist 11 > > > > family 1682 (related?) > > Grissom, John - 72 - born North Carolina > > Grissom, Sarah - 73 - born North Carolina > > Grissom, Nancy - 36 - born North Carolina > > Whitlock, David - 17 - born Illinois (farm hand) > > > > family 1683 > > Grissom, W.H. - 30 - born Tennessee (This could be another sibling, his age fits in between the others.) > > Grissom, Isabella - 28 - born Tennessee > > Grissom, John - 8 - born Tennessee (first son named John) > > Grissom, William - 6 - born Tennessee > > Grissom, Martha - 5 - born Tennessee > > Grissom, Sarah - 4 - born Tennessee > > Grissom, Elijah - 1 - born Tennessee > > > > family 1684 > > Grissom, Stephen - 42 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > > Grissom, Ann - 36 - born North Carolina > > Grissom, Mary - 13 - born Tennessee > > Grissom, Sarah - 9 - born Tennessee > > Grissom, John - 5 - born Tennessee (first son named John) > > Grissom, Vinia - 3 - born Tennessee > > Grissom, James - 2/12 - born Tennessee > > **************************************************** > > 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) > > (very close to the Stubblefields in Hopkins co., Mt Pleasant is in Titus County, just East of Hopkins Co. TX) > > > > family 672 > > Grissom, Willis B - 36 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) > > Grissom, Martha - 31 - born Alabama (Do we know who this maiden name is?) > > Grissom, John - 14 - born Tennessee (first son named John) (first daughter named Mary) > > Grissom, Mary - 12 - Tennessee (there is a big space between Mary 12 yr and Lucy 11 months, or a typo) > > Grissom, Lucy M - 11/12 - born Texas (Family to TX by1869) > > Bridges, Mary E - 14 - born Texas (b:1856 in TX) > > Bridges, James - 12 - born Texas > > Bridges, Alfred - 10 - born Texas > > (why three Bridges children with this family?) > > > > family 771 > > Grissom, Thomas - 53 - born North Carolina > > (I believe he would be a brother to the rest of the Grissoms) (Very likely, b: 1817 in the 1815-1823 space) > > Grissom, Mattie - 36 - born Tennessee > > Grissom, Willis - 17 - b: AR (named for his brother Willis B ?) > > Grissom, Frances - 14 - born Arkansas > > Grissom, Emma - 13 - born Arkansas > > Grissom, California - 10 - born Arkansas > > Grissom, John - 7 - born Texas (Family to Texas by 1863?) > > Grissom, Margaret - 5 - born Texas > > Grissom, Ida - 1 - born Texas > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Pat, > > Here is the 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists your Eldridge P. Bell with the listing of your "Steven" > Thomas Bell as a widower with two young children that were born in TX.( I have more questions below) > > > > family 772 > > Bell, Eldridge P - 45 - born North Carolina (Bethenia's brother) > > Bell, Eleanor - 41 - born Tennessee (Allen's sister) > > Bell, Thomas - 24 - born Tennessee (in TX at least by 1866) > > Bell, Liousa - 4- born Texas > > Bell, Ella M - 7/12 - born Texas > > would guess Thomas is a son and a widower with the two girls > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > family 876 > > Bridges, Ridious - 56 - born Alabama > > Bridges, Candis - 48 - born North Carolina > > (Allen Grissoms's sister) > > Bridges, Martha F - 18 - born Tennessee > > Bridges, Walker W - 16 - born Tennessee > > Bridges, Lorenzo - 14 - born Tennessee > > Bridges, Ephriam - 10 - born Texas (moved to TX 1860ish)Bridges, Thomas - 6 - born Texas > > Grissom, Vina - 33 - born Alabama (not married) (sister to Allen, Stephen, Candis etc) > > ************************************************* > > > > 1870 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist#14 > > > > family 49 > > Bell, Andy - 38 - born Tennessee (Bethenia's brother) > > Bell, Paralee - 38 - born Tennessee (Yeates /Yates) > > Bell, Alsa - 16 - born Tennessee > > Bell, Mary - 14 - born Tennessee > > Bell, Albert - 11 - born Tennessee > > Bell, Dezie - 7 - born Tennessee > > Bell, James - 5 - born Tennessee > > Bell, Nancy - 2 - born Tennessee > > Bell, Baby - 1/12 - born Tennessee > > ********************************************** > > > > 1880 Gibson County Tennessee Dist 11 > > > > family 145 > > Grissom, Stephen - 62 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > > Grissom, Ann E = 55 - born North Carolina > > Grissom, Mary H - 32 - born Tennessee (never married) > > Grissom, Sarah L - 29 - born Tennessee (never married) > > Grissom, John A - 25 - born Tennessee (widower) > > Grissom, James A - 20 - born Tennessee > > Grissom, George W - 16 - born Tennessee > > Grissom, Stephen - 13 - born Tennessee > > ************************************************************************ Did we last see Allen & Malinda/Molinda Stubblefield > Grissom in 1850 Gibson Co., TN? That was when Malinda/Molinda's mother Nancy "C" Stubblefield gathered her daughter Martha > Stubblefield Williams (w/ Husband William Madison Williams & children & her grandson Edwin Chappell, w/ her two youngest Robert C. & > Absolom Stubblefield up, and moved them to CA. Also a Nancy Y. Grissom b: 1941 TN...who later married Edwin Chappell . > > (wish I could connect that Nancy "Y" Grissom to these Grissom families.) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > We find Nancy's two older sons (William & John) still in Gibson County, TN in the 1860 census, so they did not make the trek to > CA with the rest of the Stubblefield family: > > This file was contributed for use in the USGenWeb > > Pages 338a - 348b > > CENSUS YR: 1860 > > TERRITORY: TN > > COUNTY: Gibson > > DIVISION: District > > No. 14 PAGE NO: 338a > > REFERENCE: P.O. Lynn Point > > > > 26 2026 2049 Stubblefield J 27 M Farmer 1,200 1,000 AL > > (b: 12 Jun 1827 AL m: c. 1849 d: 11 Feb 1906 > > 27 2026 2049 Stubblefield Bethan? 34 F TN > > (b: 05 Jan 1824 NC m: c. 1849 TN d: 05 May 1905) > > 28 2026 2049 Stubblefield Nancy 11 F TN > > (b: 14 Oct 1849 TN M: ? d: 15 Nov 1887) > > 29 2026 2049 Stubblefield William Andrew 9 M TN > > (b: 15 May 1850 TN m:? d: 17 Feb 1904 > > 30 2026 2049 Stubblefield James 8 M TN > > (b: 1851 TN m:? d:?) > > 31 2026 2049 Stubblefield Martha 6 F TN > > (b: 1854 TN m:? d:?) > > 32 2026 2049 Stubblefield Ana 3 F TN > > (b: c 1855) m:? d:?) > > 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield John (P) 1 M TN > > (b: c. 1860 m:? d:?) > > 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield, Lucricia > > (b: c. 1862 TN m: ? d: ?) > > **after this census in 1860 in Gibson Co TN. we find that JOHN S.STUBBLEFIELD family had moved to Texas, where they had more > children :(had moved to TX between 1862 & 1865) > > > > BETHENIA / BETTIE STUBBLEFIELD b:1865 d: 22 July 1939 STEPHEN H STUBBLEFIELD b: 11 July 1866 d: 14 Aug 1948 > > THOMAS E. STUBBLEFIELD b: 25 Mar 1870 in Hopkins Co., Sulpher Bluff,TX > > *********************************** > > Pat, > > Questions: > > The above 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists the Eldridge P. Bell family with your "Steven" Thomas Bell > with two young children born in TX indicates that "Steven"Thomas Bell was married two times. > > > > You have listed: > > Steven Thomas Bell, b: 11/14/1845, d: 8/12/1909 > > Mary Francis( Fannie) Threlkeld, b: 8/19/1852, d: 2/19/1925 > > Children > > Charles A. Bell, b: 3/11/1873 > > THIS IS THE FIRST CHILD OF THIS MARRIAGE > > Which indicates that this is the second marriage of "Steven" Thomas Bell. Do you have the 1880 census for this family that > shows the first two children that were listed in the 1870 census: > > Bell, Liousa - b: c. 1866 TX would be 14 yrs in 1880 > > Bell, Ella M - b: c. 1870 TX would be 10 yrs in 1880. > > > > Sarah E. Bell, b: 1/15/1876 > > Eldridge Perryman Bell, b: 1/12/1877, d: 1/13/1884 > > James Henry Bell, b: 12/13/1881 > > Mary Ella Bell, b: 2/8/1886, d: 9/17/1887 > > Rab Leon Bell, b: 5/18/1887, d: 3/4/1953 > > Floy E. Bell, b: 8/9/1893 > > > > There is a cemetery in Titus County that was dedicated by the R.Bridges family, when I find that I will post it. > > > > Congratulations on having such a great start to your family research, keep in touch and let me know what you find. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > > > > > > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > > > > > > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2.1.1.2 Message Board Post: WOW....I searched for years, and never got any hits on this family, and now that I decided to go back to college (empty nest) all of a sudden information is just flying out of the woodwork. I wish I had time to work on this with everyone, but untill I graduate in May, that is impossible. Please keep me in the loop. My husband Don Bell is the greatgrandson of Austin Harrison Bell (Alsey), son of Andrew and Paralee (yeates/yates), son of Lydia and ? Bell. Paralee's widow application says that Andrew was born in Wilson Co. I tried researching that County, but never came up with any thing. Has anyone else tried there? Teresa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Pat, I missed your listing of the Eldridge Bell family in the 1880 census (could you post that, with as much info. that you find, of the 1880 census, please) I do not feel the children you name for them in the 1880 census would have been their's, but perhaps grandchildren or?? The neice would have been the child of a sibling of either Eldridge or Eleanor. Do you know who? You wrote: " On the 1880 census they (do you mean Eldridge & Elaeanor Bell ?) are shown with children Viney L. and Martha E and niece Sarah. By that time my ggrandfather, Steven Thomas Bell was married to Mary Francis Threlkeld in 1871 " Thanks for helping fill in the puzzle pieces.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Pat, I missed your listing of the Eldridge Bell family in the 1880 census (could you post that, with as much info. that you find, of the 1880 census, please) I do not feel the children you name for them in the 1880 census would have been their's, but perhaps grandchildren or?? The neice would have been the child of a sibling of either Eldridge or Eleanor. Do you know who? You wrote: " On the 1880 census they (do you mean Eldridge & Elaeanor Bell ?) are shown with children Viney L. and Martha E and niece Sarah. By that time my ggrandfather, Steven Thomas Bell was married to Mary Francis Threlkeld in 1871 " Thanks for helping fill in the puzzle pieces.

Have you checked the 1850 census? There is a transcription that includes names of all family members done by Sistler. Sue On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 12:46:56 EST [email protected] writes: > I have a Miriam V. MATHES born OCt 6, 1832 in Tn and died 17 March > 1910 in > Union Grove, Obion , Tn. She married Moses Josiah HOPPER probably > in Gibson or > Dyer county, Tn. Am seeking names of her parents. > Kay Fleming ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Have a Miranda MATHIS, born circa 1836, daughter of Jacob T, MATHIS married to Mary Carter, both of whom later died in Gibson county. Might be worth looking into.... never know Bill Witherspoon Mobile, AL Email : [email protected]

I have taken the individual BELL members listed in the 1850 Gibson Co.,TN index and placed them in family units according to their page number and house number: You asked about a George & Valentine Bell from SC? 1850 Gibson Co.,TN census index: 279b (pg 0279a txt) line 34 BELL, VALENTINE (male) 65 SC line 35 BELL, PRISCILLA 44 NC line 36 BELL, FRANCIS 25 TN line 37 BELL,GEORGE 21 TN I have not figured a connection to my Bell family as yet, but find it interesting that these families are numbered living near to each other: (1) *(This one that follows, might connect the two Valentines (in both of these groups) because of the unusual name and the fact they both come from SC.& also to Lydia because of the living near by) 128a 12 BELL,WILLIAM 8 TN pg 0123a 128a 16 BELL, ISABELLA 1 TN pg 0123a 128a 13 BELL, JOHN 6 TN pg 0123a 128a 14 BELL ALEXANDER 5 TN pg 0123a 128a 15 BELL, REBECCA 4 TN pg 0123a 128a 11 BELL, TELITHA 25 TN pg 0123a 128a 10 BELL, VALENTINE 73 SC pg 0123a (2) *(This one that follows, might be related because of the nearness to JAMES BELL who might be a son of Lydia BELL) 279b 34 " VALENTINE (male) 65 SC pg 0279a txt " 36 " FRANCIS 25 TN " " 37 " GEORGE 21 TN " " 35 " PRISCILLA 44 NC " Next door: (3) (Could be one of "my" Lydia's sons living near her) pg 0279a " 280a 11 BELL, SUSAN 18 TN 280a 10 BELL, JAMES 27 TN Close by: (4) (*Here is "my" BELL family) pg 0279a 284b 36 BELL ELDRIDGE 25 NC 284b 37 BELL, ELEANOR (nee:Grissom) 21 TN (Possible son: James Bell listed above) 284b 38 BELL, LYDIA 55 NC 284b 39 BELL, ANDREW 18 TN Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. mema --------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bettye Seaton Liberty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > Do any of you connect to the Bells from S. C. and probably AL. In particular, George Bell and Valentine Bell? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 3:22 PM > Subject: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Pat, > I get just as excited when I can share family information, as when I find a piece of the puzzle myself. > > Below I will post some information that came to me from a "distant KZN" that is a whiz in the research, and very generous. > > One of the things she advised me to get was a Delux Legacy 5.0 ancestry program to install all my information onto as I went.....well, I cannot tell you how IMPORTANT that is for you to do, right now, in the beginning of your research on your family. I am playing catch-up with putting my stored information onto my new Delux Legacy 5.0 program, but I am loving every minute of it. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Here is the work sheet for the families I mentioned to you that are related by marriage: > > Grissom family > father: Unknown Grissom (maybe John) > mother: Mary Unknown b:NC > Children: > Stephen Grissom - 1816 - North Carolina > [Thomas Grissom could be a sibling b: 1817-18 NC?] > Candis Grissom - 1821 - North Carolina > Allen Grissom - 1824 - North Carolina > Eleanor Grissom - 1828 - Tennessee > [WH Grissom could be a sibling b: 1830 TN?] > Willis B Grissom - 1833 - Alabama > Malvina Grissom - 1836 - Alabama > Taking in their migration, they were in Wilson Co. TN in 1847& 1848 & 1850 in Gibson Co TN > ************************************************************************ > It has never been proven where Nancy Clorence/Clorance Stubblefield was born 1800. some say TN, some say SC but with these families that are married into the three families coming from NC it seems to me that we might find that Nancy came from NC too. > I wonder if NC had split off TN by 1800? I think so ! > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Someone sent me this : > 1850 Gibson Co., TN census (all the Bells) > Bell Alexander 5 Tenn pg 0123a.txt > 137a 11 Bell Alexander 8 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 284b 39 Bell Andrew 18 Ten pg0279a.txt > 136b 12 Bell Ann 12 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 11 Bell Caroline 4 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 284b 36 Bell Eldridge P. 25 NC pg0279a.txt > 284b 37 Bell Eleanor 21 Ten pg0279a.txt > 137a 7 Bell Elijah 35 Ala pg0134a.txt > 153a 12 Bell Elinor 3 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 137a 12 Bell Eliza 7 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 9 Bell Elizabeth 8 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 239b 26 Bell Elizabeth 24 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 306a 8 Bell Elizabeth 17 NC pg0301b.txt > 279b 36 Bell Frances 25 Ten pg0279a.txt > 136b 14 Bell George 9 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 137a 9 Bell George 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 279b 37 Bell George 21 Ten pg0279a.txt > 153a 4 Bell H. M. 41 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 128a 16 Bell Isabella 1 Tenn pg0123a.txt > 136b 10 Bell James 42 SC pg0134a.txt > 137a 10 Bell James 10 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 257a 38 Bell James 33 NC pg0256b.txt > 280a 10 Bell James 27 Ten pg0279a.txt > 204a 16 Bell James G. 45 NC pg0200a.txt > 204a 17 Bell Jane 50 NC pg0200a.txt > 128a 13 Bell John 6 Tenn pg0123a.txt > 153a 8 Bell John 13 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 306a 7 Bell John 27 NC pg0301b.txt > 206a 10 Bell John W. 23 Tenn pg0200a.txt > 137a 15 Bell Jonah 4/12 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 13 Bell Joseph 6/12 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 284b 38 Bell Lydia 55 NC pg0279a.txt > 239b 28 Bell Margaret 7 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 136b 13 Bell Margarett 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 136b 16 Bell Martha 4 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 137a 13 Bell Mary 5 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 10 Bell Mary 6 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 136b 11 Bell Michal 40 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 5 Bell Minerva 34 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 137a 8 Bell Nancy 32 NC pg0134a.txt > 137a 14 Bell Neill 3 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 257a 37 Bell Penelope 58 NC pg0256b.txt > 279b 35 Bell Priscilla 44 NC pg0279a.txt > 204a 18 Bell Rachael 28 NC pg0200a.txt > 128a 15 Bell Rebecca 4 Tenn pg0123a.txt > 136b 17 Bell Robert 2 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 6 Bell Robert 19 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 257a 40 Bell Robert 17 Tenn pg0256b.txt > 306a 9 Bell Robt. 3/12 Ten pg0301b.txt > 136b 15 Bell Sarah 6 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 239b 29 Bell Sarah 5 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 280a 11 Bell Susan 18 Ten pg0279a.txt > 128a 11 Bell Telitha 25 NC pg0123a.txt > 239b 25 Bell Tho's F. 26 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 128a 10 Bell Valentine 73 SC pg0123a.txt > 279b 34 Bell Valentine 65 SC pg0279a.txt > 128a 12 Bell William 8 Tenn pg0123a.txt > 153a 7 Bell William 17 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 239b 27 Bell William 23 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 257a 39 Bell William 22 Tenn pg0256b.txt > 257a 36 Bell Wm. A. 65 NC pg0256b.txt > At one time I had this list sorted into families by the first letters in each line.it was pretty interesting...I'll work on it to see what I can find this time. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bell Family > father: possibly James Bell > mother: Lydia [Perhaps Chapman] > ?Marriage?: 25 Apr 1814 - Chatham County, North Carolina > Children: > Eldridge P Bell - 1824 - North Carolina > Bethenia Bell - 1825 - Tennessee > Andrew Bell - 1831 - Tennessee > and others ,older, I'm sure we are missing > [? older children born between 1814 and 1823 were moved out] > > 1850 Gibson Co., TN Census > LYDIA BELL ,55, F, W, NC > ELDRIDGE P. BELL 25, M, W, NC > (Bethenia would fit in here) > ELEANOR BELL, 21, F, W, TN > ANDREW BELL, 18, M, E, TN. > > That information would indicate that this family moved from NC to TN about 1832. > > GIBSON COUNTY, TENNESSEE MARRIAGES > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/tn+index+400261523892+F > > BELL, Andrew marr. YEATES, Parolle on 21-OCT-1852 > ************************************************************************ > Marriages of these families: > > John S Stubblefield to Bethenia Bell - 17 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Eldridge P Bell to Eleanor Grissom - 30 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Andrew Bell to Parolee Yeates(Yates) - 21 Oct 1852 - Gibson County, Tennessee ( I have another connection of Parolee Yeates/Yates to other families of interest to be posted later) > > Stephen Grissom to Ann Eliza (?) Grissom - 9 Mar 1841 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Ridious Bridges to Candis Grissom - Can't Remember - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Allen Grissom to Malinda Stubblefield - 13 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Willis B Grissom to Margarette Cash - 3 Oct 1854 - Gibson County, Tennessee > > Note:All three families intermarried. > Allen Grissom married Malinda Stubblefield. > Allen's sister Eleanor Grissom married Eldridge Bell. > Eldridge's sister Bethenia Bell married John Stubblefield. > (Big Circle) > ************************************************************************ > Census Records for these families > > 1850 Gibson County Dist# 14 > **But very interesting that they were married Wilson Co TN and moved to Gibson Co.,TN like all the rest. Keeping an eye on this family to see where or if they connect someplace. > > Kinkaid, William J - 21 - born Tennessee > > Kinkaid, Polly - 24 - born Alabama (maybe 2nd marriage?) > > Kinkaid, Martha - 2 - born Tennessee > > Kinkaid, James - 3/12 - born Tennessee > > no mention of our Edwin Chappell - so probably not our Polly > (Edwin Chappell was born in 1840 and was with his Grandmother Nancy Stubblefield in Gibson Co TN by c.1852) I have often wondered why Edwin was with his grandmother, perhaps if Polly gave birth at a very young age (14-15 was not unheard of), but that is about the same time Unknown disapeared too and maybe Polly's husband and Unknown were killed in some kind of skermish with the Indians or whatever????? Still looking for the Chappell family ancestry. > > 1850 Gibson County Dist# 11 > family 2220 > Bell, Eldridge P - 25 - born North Carolina > Bell, Eleanor - 21 - born Tennessee > > family 2221 > Bell, Lydia - 55 - born North Carolina > Bell, Andrew - 18 - born Tennessee > (he is listed as Andy Bell when his widow Paralee (YEATES, Parolle) applied for a Confederate Soldiers Pension) > > family 2223 > Stubblefield, John > m: Bethenia Bell > etc > > family 2224 > Stubblefield, William R > etc > > family 2225 > Stubblefield, Nancy - 45 - Tennessee > Stubblefield, Robert - 18 - born Alabama > Stubblefield, Abraham (Absolom) - 11 - born Alabama > > family 2227 > Grissom, Allen - 25 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Malinda - 20 - born Alabama (Stubblefield) > Grissom, Stephen - 3 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Nancy - 3/12 - born Tennessee > > family 2233 > Grissom, Stephen - 33 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Ann - 26 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Mary - 3 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Mary - 55 - born North Carolina (Allen's Mother) > Grissom, Willis - 16 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Malvina - 13 - born Alabama (Allen's sister) > > 1850 Gibson County Dist 17 > > Bridges, Ridious - 28 - born Alabama (love that name) > Bridges, Candis - 28 - born North Carolina (she is Candis Grissom)(Allen's sister b:1821) > Bridges, John - 9 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Mary - 8 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Matilda - 5 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Nancy - 3 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Martha - 4/12 - born Tennessee > Grissum, Mary - 60 - born North Carolina > (This is a second elderly lady named Mary Griss*m in Gibson Co 1850 census & two children named the same, the ages the same????must be CT error) > Grissum, Willis - 16 - born Tennessee > Grissum, Vina - 14 - born Tennessee > Notice the last three are the same (usual mistakes) as enumerated with Stephen earlier. <grin> > ************************************************************************Stephen Grissom (Allen's brother) and family stayed in TN > Andrew Bell (Bethenia's brother) and family stayed in TN > ********************************************************************** > 1860 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist 11 > > family 1682 (related?) > Grissom, John - 72 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Sarah - 73 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Nancy - 36 - born North Carolina > Whitlock, David - 17 - born Illinois (farm hand) > > family 1683 > Grissom, W.H. - 30 - born Tennessee (This could be another sibling, his age fits in between the others.) > Grissom, Isabella - 28 - born Tennessee > Grissom, John - 8 - born Tennessee (first son named John) > Grissom, William - 6 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Martha - 5 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Sarah - 4 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Elijah - 1 - born Tennessee > > family 1684 > Grissom, Stephen - 42 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Ann - 36 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Mary - 13 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Sarah - 9 - born Tennessee > Grissom, John - 5 - born Tennessee (first son named John) > Grissom, Vinia - 3 - born Tennessee > Grissom, James - 2/12 - born Tennessee > **************************************************** > 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) > (very close to the Stubblefields in Hopkins co., Mt Pleasant is in Titus County, just East of Hopkins Co. TX) > > family 672 > Grissom, Willis B - 36 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Martha - 31 - born Alabama (Do we know who this maiden name is?) > Grissom, John - 14 - born Tennessee (first son named John) (first daughter named Mary) > Grissom, Mary - 12 - Tennessee (there is a big space between Mary 12 yr and Lucy 11 months, or a typo) > Grissom, Lucy M - 11/12 - born Texas (Family to TX by1869) > Bridges, Mary E - 14 - born Texas (b:1856 in TX) > Bridges, James - 12 - born Texas > Bridges, Alfred - 10 - born Texas > (why three Bridges children with this family?) > > family 771 > Grissom, Thomas - 53 - born North Carolina > (I believe he would be a brother to the rest of the Grissoms) (Very likely, b: 1817 in the 1815-1823 space) > Grissom, Mattie - 36 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Willis - 17 - b: AR (named for his brother Willis B ?) > Grissom, Frances - 14 - born Arkansas > Grissom, Emma - 13 - born Arkansas > Grissom, California - 10 - born Arkansas > Grissom, John - 7 - born Texas (Family to Texas by 1863?) > Grissom, Margaret - 5 - born Texas > Grissom, Ida - 1 - born Texas > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Pat, > Here is the 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists your Eldridge P. Bell with the listing of your "Steven" Thomas Bell as a widower with two young children that were born in TX.( I have more questions below) > > family 772 > Bell, Eldridge P - 45 - born North Carolina (Bethenia's brother) > Bell, Eleanor - 41 - born Tennessee (Allen's sister) > Bell, Thomas - 24 - born Tennessee (in TX at least by 1866) > Bell, Liousa - 4- born Texas > Bell, Ella M - 7/12 - born Texas > would guess Thomas is a son and a widower with the two girls > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > family 876 > Bridges, Ridious - 56 - born Alabama > Bridges, Candis - 48 - born North Carolina > (Allen Grissoms's sister) > Bridges, Martha F - 18 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Walker W - 16 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Lorenzo - 14 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Ephriam - 10 - born Texas (moved to TX 1860ish)Bridges, Thomas - 6 - born Texas > Grissom, Vina - 33 - born Alabama (not married) (sister to Allen, Stephen, Candis etc) > ************************************************* > > 1870 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist#14 > > family 49 > Bell, Andy - 38 - born Tennessee (Bethenia's brother) > Bell, Paralee - 38 - born Tennessee (Yeates /Yates) > Bell, Alsa - 16 - born Tennessee > Bell, Mary - 14 - born Tennessee > Bell, Albert - 11 - born Tennessee > Bell, Dezie - 7 - born Tennessee > Bell, James - 5 - born Tennessee > Bell, Nancy - 2 - born Tennessee > Bell, Baby - 1/12 - born Tennessee > ********************************************** > > 1880 Gibson County Tennessee Dist 11 > > family 145 > Grissom, Stephen - 62 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Ann E = 55 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Mary H - 32 - born Tennessee (never married) > Grissom, Sarah L - 29 - born Tennessee (never married) > Grissom, John A - 25 - born Tennessee (widower) > Grissom, James A - 20 - born Tennessee > Grissom, George W - 16 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Stephen - 13 - born Tennessee > ************************************************************************ Did we last see Allen & Malinda/Molinda Stubblefield Grissom in 1850 Gibson Co., TN? That was when Malinda/Molinda's mother Nancy "C" Stubblefield gathered her daughter Martha Stubblefield Williams (w/ Husband William Madison Williams & children & her grandson Edwin Chappell, w/ her two youngest Robert C. & Absolom Stubblefield up, and moved them to CA. Also a Nancy Y. Grissom b: 1941 TN...who later married Edwin Chappell . > (wish I could connect that Nancy "Y" Grissom to these Grissom families.) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > We find Nancy's two older sons (William & John) still in Gibson County, TN in the 1860 census, so they did not make the trek to CA with the rest of the Stubblefield family: > This file was contributed for use in the USGenWeb > Pages 338a - 348b > CENSUS YR: 1860 > TERRITORY: TN > COUNTY: Gibson > DIVISION: District > No. 14 PAGE NO: 338a > REFERENCE: P.O. Lynn Point > > 26 2026 2049 Stubblefield J 27 M Farmer 1,200 1,000 AL > (b: 12 Jun 1827 AL m: c. 1849 d: 11 Feb 1906 > 27 2026 2049 Stubblefield Bethan? 34 F TN > (b: 05 Jan 1824 NC m: c. 1849 TN d: 05 May 1905) > 28 2026 2049 Stubblefield Nancy 11 F TN > (b: 14 Oct 1849 TN M: ? d: 15 Nov 1887) > 29 2026 2049 Stubblefield William Andrew 9 M TN > (b: 15 May 1850 TN m:? d: 17 Feb 1904 > 30 2026 2049 Stubblefield James 8 M TN > (b: 1851 TN m:? d:?) > 31 2026 2049 Stubblefield Martha 6 F TN > (b: 1854 TN m:? d:?) > 32 2026 2049 Stubblefield Ana 3 F TN > (b: c 1855) m:? d:?) > 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield John (P) 1 M TN > (b: c. 1860 m:? d:?) > 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield, Lucricia > (b: c. 1862 TN m: ? d: ?) > **after this census in 1860 in Gibson Co TN. we find that JOHN S.STUBBLEFIELD family had moved to Texas, where they had more children :(had moved to TX between 1862 & 1865) > > BETHENIA / BETTIE STUBBLEFIELD b:1865 d: 22 July 1939 STEPHEN H STUBBLEFIELD b: 11 July 1866 d: 14 Aug 1948 > THOMAS E. STUBBLEFIELD b: 25 Mar 1870 in Hopkins Co., Sulpher Bluff,TX > *********************************** > Pat, > Questions: > The above 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists the Eldridge P. Bell family with your "Steven" Thomas Bell with two young children born in TX indicates that "Steven"Thomas Bell was married two times. > > You have listed: > Steven Thomas Bell, b: 11/14/1845, d: 8/12/1909 > Mary Francis( Fannie) Threlkeld, b: 8/19/1852, d: 2/19/1925 > Children > Charles A. Bell, b: 3/11/1873 > THIS IS THE FIRST CHILD OF THIS MARRIAGE > Which indicates that this is the second marriage of "Steven" Thomas Bell. Do you have the 1880 census for this family that shows the first two children that were listed in the 1870 census: > Bell, Liousa - b: c. 1866 TX would be 14 yrs in 1880 > Bell, Ella M - b: c. 1870 TX would be 10 yrs in 1880. > > Sarah E. Bell, b: 1/15/1876 > Eldridge Perryman Bell, b: 1/12/1877, d: 1/13/1884 > James Henry Bell, b: 12/13/1881 > Mary Ella Bell, b: 2/8/1886, d: 9/17/1887 > Rab Leon Bell, b: 5/18/1887, d: 3/4/1953 > Floy E. Bell, b: 8/9/1893 > > There is a cemetery in Titus County that was dedicated by the R.Bridges family, when I find that I will post it. > > Congratulations on having such a great start to your family research, keep in touch and let me know what you find. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Pat, I get just as excited when I can share family information, as when I find a piece of the puzzle myself. Below I will post some information that came to me from a "distant KZN" that is a whiz in the research, and very generous. One of the things she advised me to get was a Delux Legacy 5.0 ancestry program to install all my information onto as I went.....well, I cannot tell you how IMPORTANT that is for you to do, right now, in the beginning of your research on your family. I am playing catch-up with putting my stored information onto my new Delux Legacy 5.0 program, but I am loving every minute of it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here is the work sheet for the families I mentioned to you that are related by marriage: Grissom family father: Unknown Grissom (maybe John) mother: Mary Unknown b:NC Children: Stephen Grissom - 1816 - North Carolina [Thomas Grissom could be a sibling b: 1817-18 NC?] Candis Grissom - 1821 - North Carolina Allen Grissom - 1824 - North Carolina Eleanor Grissom - 1828 - Tennessee [WH Grissom could be a sibling b: 1830 TN?] Willis B Grissom - 1833 - Alabama Malvina Grissom - 1836 - Alabama Taking in their migration, they were in Wilson Co. TN in 1847& 1848 & 1850 in Gibson Co TN ************************************************************************ It has never been proven where Nancy Clorence/Clorance Stubblefield was born 1800. some say TN, some say SC but with these families that are married into the three families coming from NC it seems to me that we might find that Nancy came from NC too. I wonder if NC had split off TN by 1800? I think so ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Someone sent me this : 1850 Gibson Co., TN census (all the Bells) Bell Alexander 5 Tenn pg 0123a.txt 137a 11 Bell Alexander 8 Tenn pg0134a.txt 284b 39 Bell Andrew 18 Ten pg0279a.txt 136b 12 Bell Ann 12 Tenn pg0134a.txt 153a 11 Bell Caroline 4 Tenn pg0145a.txt 284b 36 Bell Eldridge P. 25 NC pg0279a.txt 284b 37 Bell Eleanor 21 Ten pg0279a.txt 137a 7 Bell Elijah 35 Ala pg0134a.txt 153a 12 Bell Elinor 3 Tenn pg0145a.txt 137a 12 Bell Eliza 7 Tenn pg0134a.txt 153a 9 Bell Elizabeth 8 Tenn pg0145a.txt 239b 26 Bell Elizabeth 24 Tenn pg0234a.txt 306a 8 Bell Elizabeth 17 NC pg0301b.txt 279b 36 Bell Frances 25 Ten pg0279a.txt 136b 14 Bell George 9 Tenn pg0134a.txt 137a 9 Bell George 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt 279b 37 Bell George 21 Ten pg0279a.txt 153a 4 Bell H. M. 41 Tenn pg0145a.txt 128a 16 Bell Isabella 1 Tenn pg0123a.txt 136b 10 Bell James 42 SC pg0134a.txt 137a 10 Bell James 10 Tenn pg0134a.txt 257a 38 Bell James 33 NC pg0256b.txt 280a 10 Bell James 27 Ten pg0279a.txt 204a 16 Bell James G. 45 NC pg0200a.txt 204a 17 Bell Jane 50 NC pg0200a.txt 128a 13 Bell John 6 Tenn pg0123a.txt 153a 8 Bell John 13 Tenn pg0145a.txt 306a 7 Bell John 27 NC pg0301b.txt 206a 10 Bell John W. 23 Tenn pg0200a.txt 137a 15 Bell Jonah 4/12 Tenn pg0134a.txt 153a 13 Bell Joseph 6/12 Tenn pg0145a.txt 284b 38 Bell Lydia 55 NC pg0279a.txt 239b 28 Bell Margaret 7 Tenn pg0234a.txt 136b 13 Bell Margarett 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt 136b 16 Bell Martha 4 Tenn pg0134a.txt 137a 13 Bell Mary 5 Tenn pg0134a.txt 153a 10 Bell Mary 6 Tenn pg0145a.txt 136b 11 Bell Michal 40 Tenn pg0134a.txt 153a 5 Bell Minerva 34 Tenn pg0145a.txt 137a 8 Bell Nancy 32 NC pg0134a.txt 137a 14 Bell Neill 3 Tenn pg0134a.txt 257a 37 Bell Penelope 58 NC pg0256b.txt 279b 35 Bell Priscilla 44 NC pg0279a.txt 204a 18 Bell Rachael 28 NC pg0200a.txt 128a 15 Bell Rebecca 4 Tenn pg0123a.txt 136b 17 Bell Robert 2 Tenn pg0134a.txt 153a 6 Bell Robert 19 Tenn pg0145a.txt 257a 40 Bell Robert 17 Tenn pg0256b.txt 306a 9 Bell Robt. 3/12 Ten pg0301b.txt 136b 15 Bell Sarah 6 Tenn pg0134a.txt 239b 29 Bell Sarah 5 Tenn pg0234a.txt 280a 11 Bell Susan 18 Ten pg0279a.txt 128a 11 Bell Telitha 25 NC pg0123a.txt 239b 25 Bell Tho's F. 26 Tenn pg0234a.txt 128a 10 Bell Valentine 73 SC pg0123a.txt 279b 34 Bell Valentine 65 SC pg0279a.txt 128a 12 Bell William 8 Tenn pg0123a.txt 153a 7 Bell William 17 Tenn pg0145a.txt 239b 27 Bell William 23 Tenn pg0234a.txt 257a 39 Bell William 22 Tenn pg0256b.txt 257a 36 Bell Wm. A. 65 NC pg0256b.txt At one time I had this list sorted into families by the first letters in each line.it was pretty interesting...I'll work on it to see what I can find this time. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bell Family father: possibly James Bell mother: Lydia [Perhaps Chapman] ?Marriage?: 25 Apr 1814 - Chatham County, North Carolina Children: Eldridge P Bell - 1824 - North Carolina Bethenia Bell - 1825 - Tennessee Andrew Bell - 1831 - Tennessee and others ,older, I'm sure we are missing [? older children born between 1814 and 1823 were moved out] 1850 Gibson Co., TN Census LYDIA BELL ,55, F, W, NC ELDRIDGE P. BELL 25, M, W, NC (Bethenia would fit in here) ELEANOR BELL, 21, F, W, TN ANDREW BELL, 18, M, E, TN. That information would indicate that this family moved from NC to TN about 1832. GIBSON COUNTY, TENNESSEE MARRIAGES http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/tn+index+400261523892+F BELL, Andrew marr. YEATES, Parolle on 21-OCT-1852 ************************************************************************ Marriages of these families: John S Stubblefield to Bethenia Bell - 17 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee Eldridge P Bell to Eleanor Grissom - 30 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee Andrew Bell to Parolee Yeates(Yates) - 21 Oct 1852 - Gibson County, Tennessee ( I have another connection of Parolee Yeates/Yates to other families of interest to be posted later) Stephen Grissom to Ann Eliza (?) Grissom - 9 Mar 1841 - Wilson County, Tennessee Ridious Bridges to Candis Grissom - Can't Remember - Wilson County, Tennessee Allen Grissom to Malinda Stubblefield - 13 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee Willis B Grissom to Margarette Cash - 3 Oct 1854 - Gibson County, Tennessee Note:All three families intermarried. Allen Grissom married Malinda Stubblefield. Allen's sister Eleanor Grissom married Eldridge Bell. Eldridge's sister Bethenia Bell married John Stubblefield. (Big Circle) ************************************************************************ Census Records for these families 1850 Gibson County Dist# 14 **But very interesting that they were married Wilson Co TN and moved to Gibson Co.,TN like all the rest. Keeping an eye on this family to see where or if they connect someplace. > Kinkaid, William J - 21 - born Tennessee > Kinkaid, Polly - 24 - born Alabama (maybe 2nd marriage?) > Kinkaid, Martha - 2 - born Tennessee > Kinkaid, James - 3/12 - born Tennessee > no mention of our Edwin Chappell - so probably not our Polly (Edwin Chappell was born in 1840 and was with his Grandmother Nancy Stubblefield in Gibson Co TN by c.1852) I have often wondered why Edwin was with his grandmother, perhaps if Polly gave birth at a very young age (14-15 was not unheard of), but that is about the same time Unknown disapeared too and maybe Polly's husband and Unknown were killed in some kind of skermish with the Indians or whatever????? Still looking for the Chappell family ancestry. 1850 Gibson County Dist# 11 family 2220 Bell, Eldridge P - 25 - born North Carolina Bell, Eleanor - 21 - born Tennessee family 2221 Bell, Lydia - 55 - born North Carolina Bell, Andrew - 18 - born Tennessee (he is listed as Andy Bell when his widow Paralee (YEATES, Parolle) applied for a Confederate Soldiers Pension) family 2223 Stubblefield, John m: Bethenia Bell etc family 2224 Stubblefield, William R etc family 2225 Stubblefield, Nancy - 45 - Tennessee Stubblefield, Robert - 18 - born Alabama Stubblefield, Abraham (Absolom) - 11 - born Alabama family 2227 Grissom, Allen - 25 - born North Carolina Grissom, Malinda - 20 - born Alabama (Stubblefield) Grissom, Stephen - 3 - born Tennessee Grissom, Nancy - 3/12 - born Tennessee family 2233 Grissom, Stephen - 33 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) Grissom, Ann - 26 - born North Carolina Grissom, Mary - 3 - born Tennessee Grissom, Mary - 55 - born North Carolina (Allen's Mother) Grissom, Willis - 16 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) Grissom, Malvina - 13 - born Alabama (Allen's sister) 1850 Gibson County Dist 17 Bridges, Ridious - 28 - born Alabama (love that name) Bridges, Candis - 28 - born North Carolina (she is Candis Grissom)(Allen's sister b:1821) Bridges, John - 9 - born Tennessee Bridges, Mary - 8 - born Tennessee Bridges, Matilda - 5 - born Tennessee Bridges, Nancy - 3 - born Tennessee Bridges, Martha - 4/12 - born Tennessee Grissum, Mary - 60 - born North Carolina (This is a second elderly lady named Mary Griss*m in Gibson Co 1850 census & two children named the same, the ages the same????must be CT error) Grissum, Willis - 16 - born Tennessee Grissum, Vina - 14 - born Tennessee Notice the last three are the same (usual mistakes) as enumerated with Stephen earlier. <grin> ************************************************************************Stephen Grissom (Allen's brother) and family stayed in TN Andrew Bell (Bethenia's brother) and family stayed in TN ********************************************************************** 1860 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist 11 family 1682 (related?) Grissom, John - 72 - born North Carolina Grissom, Sarah - 73 - born North Carolina Grissom, Nancy - 36 - born North Carolina Whitlock, David - 17 - born Illinois (farm hand) family 1683 Grissom, W.H. - 30 - born Tennessee (This could be another sibling, his age fits in between the others.) Grissom, Isabella - 28 - born Tennessee Grissom, John - 8 - born Tennessee (first son named John) Grissom, William - 6 - born Tennessee Grissom, Martha - 5 - born Tennessee Grissom, Sarah - 4 - born Tennessee Grissom, Elijah - 1 - born Tennessee family 1684 Grissom, Stephen - 42 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) Grissom, Ann - 36 - born North Carolina Grissom, Mary - 13 - born Tennessee Grissom, Sarah - 9 - born Tennessee Grissom, John - 5 - born Tennessee (first son named John) Grissom, Vinia - 3 - born Tennessee Grissom, James - 2/12 - born Tennessee **************************************************** 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) (very close to the Stubblefields in Hopkins co., Mt Pleasant is in Titus County, just East of Hopkins Co. TX) family 672 Grissom, Willis B - 36 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) Grissom, Martha - 31 - born Alabama (Do we know who this maiden name is?) Grissom, John - 14 - born Tennessee (first son named John) (first daughter named Mary) Grissom, Mary - 12 - Tennessee (there is a big space between Mary 12 yr and Lucy 11 months, or a typo) Grissom, Lucy M - 11/12 - born Texas (Family to TX by1869) Bridges, Mary E - 14 - born Texas (b:1856 in TX) Bridges, James - 12 - born Texas Bridges, Alfred - 10 - born Texas (why three Bridges children with this family?) family 771 Grissom, Thomas - 53 - born North Carolina (I believe he would be a brother to the rest of the Grissoms) (Very likely, b: 1817 in the 1815-1823 space) Grissom, Mattie - 36 - born Tennessee Grissom, Willis - 17 - b: AR (named for his brother Willis B ?) Grissom, Frances - 14 - born Arkansas Grissom, Emma - 13 - born Arkansas Grissom, California - 10 - born Arkansas Grissom, John - 7 - born Texas (Family to Texas by 1863?) Grissom, Margaret - 5 - born Texas Grissom, Ida - 1 - born Texas ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat, Here is the 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists your Eldridge P. Bell with the listing of your "Steven" Thomas Bell as a widower with two young children that were born in TX.( I have more questions below) family 772 Bell, Eldridge P - 45 - born North Carolina (Bethenia's brother) Bell, Eleanor - 41 - born Tennessee (Allen's sister) Bell, Thomas - 24 - born Tennessee (in TX at least by 1866) Bell, Liousa - 4- born Texas Bell, Ella M - 7/12 - born Texas would guess Thomas is a son and a widower with the two girls -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- family 876 Bridges, Ridious - 56 - born Alabama Bridges, Candis - 48 - born North Carolina (Allen Grissoms's sister) Bridges, Martha F - 18 - born Tennessee Bridges, Walker W - 16 - born Tennessee Bridges, Lorenzo - 14 - born Tennessee Bridges, Ephriam - 10 - born Texas (moved to TX 1860ish)Bridges, Thomas - 6 - born Texas Grissom, Vina - 33 - born Alabama (not married) (sister to Allen, Stephen, Candis etc) ************************************************* 1870 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist#14 family 49 Bell, Andy - 38 - born Tennessee (Bethenia's brother) Bell, Paralee - 38 - born Tennessee (Yeates /Yates) Bell, Alsa - 16 - born Tennessee Bell, Mary - 14 - born Tennessee Bell, Albert - 11 - born Tennessee Bell, Dezie - 7 - born Tennessee Bell, James - 5 - born Tennessee Bell, Nancy - 2 - born Tennessee Bell, Baby - 1/12 - born Tennessee ********************************************** 1880 Gibson County Tennessee Dist 11 family 145 Grissom, Stephen - 62 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) Grissom, Ann E = 55 - born North Carolina Grissom, Mary H - 32 - born Tennessee (never married) Grissom, Sarah L - 29 - born Tennessee (never married) Grissom, John A - 25 - born Tennessee (widower) Grissom, James A - 20 - born Tennessee Grissom, George W - 16 - born Tennessee Grissom, Stephen - 13 - born Tennessee ************************************************************************ Did we last see Allen & Malinda/Molinda Stubblefield Grissom in 1850 Gibson Co., TN? That was when Malinda/Molinda's mother Nancy "C" Stubblefield gathered her daughter Martha Stubblefield Williams (w/ Husband William Madison Williams & children & her grandson Edwin Chappell, w/ her two youngest Robert C. & Absolom Stubblefield up, and moved them to CA. Also a Nancy Y. Grissom b: 1941 TN...who later married Edwin Chappell . (wish I could connect that Nancy "Y" Grissom to these Grissom families.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We find Nancy's two older sons (William & John) still in Gibson County, TN in the 1860 census, so they did not make the trek to CA with the rest of the Stubblefield family: This file was contributed for use in the USGenWeb Pages 338a - 348b CENSUS YR: 1860 TERRITORY: TN COUNTY: Gibson DIVISION: District No. 14 PAGE NO: 338a REFERENCE: P.O. Lynn Point 26 2026 2049 Stubblefield J 27 M Farmer 1,200 1,000 AL (b: 12 Jun 1827 AL m: c. 1849 d: 11 Feb 1906 27 2026 2049 Stubblefield Bethan? 34 F TN (b: 05 Jan 1824 NC m: c. 1849 TN d: 05 May 1905) 28 2026 2049 Stubblefield Nancy 11 F TN (b: 14 Oct 1849 TN M: ? d: 15 Nov 1887) 29 2026 2049 Stubblefield William Andrew 9 M TN (b: 15 May 1850 TN m:? d: 17 Feb 1904 30 2026 2049 Stubblefield James 8 M TN (b: 1851 TN m:? d:?) 31 2026 2049 Stubblefield Martha 6 F TN (b: 1854 TN m:? d:?) 32 2026 2049 Stubblefield Ana 3 F TN (b: c 1855) m:? d:?) 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield John (P) 1 M TN (b: c. 1860 m:? d:?) 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield, Lucricia (b: c. 1862 TN m: ? d: ?) **after this census in 1860 in Gibson Co TN. we find that JOHN S.STUBBLEFIELD family had moved to Texas, where they had more children :(had moved to TX between 1862 & 1865) BETHENIA / BETTIE STUBBLEFIELD b:1865 d: 22 July 1939 STEPHEN H STUBBLEFIELD b: 11 July 1866 d: 14 Aug 1948 THOMAS E. STUBBLEFIELD b: 25 Mar 1870 in Hopkins Co., Sulpher Bluff,TX *********************************** Pat, Questions: The above 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists the Eldridge P. Bell family with your "Steven" Thomas Bell with two young children born in TX indicates that "Steven"Thomas Bell was married two times. You have listed: Steven Thomas Bell, b: 11/14/1845, d: 8/12/1909 Mary Francis( Fannie) Threlkeld, b: 8/19/1852, d: 2/19/1925 Children Charles A. Bell, b: 3/11/1873 THIS IS THE FIRST CHILD OF THIS MARRIAGE Which indicates that this is the second marriage of "Steven" Thomas Bell. Do you have the 1880 census for this family that shows the first two children that were listed in the 1870 census: Bell, Liousa - b: c. 1866 TX would be 14 yrs in 1880 Bell, Ella M - b: c. 1870 TX would be 10 yrs in 1880. Sarah E. Bell, b: 1/15/1876 Eldridge Perryman Bell, b: 1/12/1877, d: 1/13/1884 James Henry Bell, b: 12/13/1881 Mary Ella Bell, b: 2/8/1886, d: 9/17/1887 Rab Leon Bell, b: 5/18/1887, d: 3/4/1953 Floy E. Bell, b: 8/9/1893 There is a cemetery in Titus County that was dedicated by the R.Bridges family, when I find that I will post it. Congratulations on having such a great start to your family research, keep in touch and let me know what you find.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReB.2ACE/2332.1 Message Board Post: I have Thelma Virginia Watson as the daughter of William Marion Watson and Lottie Bell Watson (Who later married Benjamin O. "Scotty" Scott. I have Thelma married to Robert Mills Richardson and later to Otis Carnel Yelvington. My great-grandmother Pearl Bell Price was a sister to Lottie.

I have a Miriam V. MATHES born OCt 6, 1832 in Tn and died 17 March 1910 in Union Grove, Obion , Tn. She married Moses Josiah HOPPER probably in Gibson or Dyer county, Tn. Am seeking names of her parents. Kay Fleming

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you very much for the posting to my inquiry. I got excited and messed up the dates of S.T.'s children. My source is S.T. and Mary Francis' Bible. Steven Thomas Bell, b: 11/14/1845, d: 8/12/1909 Mary Francis( Fannie) Threlkeld, b: 8/19/1852, d: 2/19/1925 Children Charles A. Bell, b: 3/11/1873 Sarah E. Bell, b: 1/15/1876 Eldridge Perryman Bell, b: 1/12/1877, d: 1/13/1884 James Henry Bell, b: 12/13/1881 Mary Ella Bell, b: 2/8/1886, d: 9/17/1887 Rab Leon Bell, b: 5/18/1887, d: 3/4/1953 Floy E. Bell, b: 8/9/1893 Thanks for the info that Lydia was Eldridge's mom and Bethenia and Andrew were his sister and brother. I did not know that for sure but wondered when I saw the Gibson Cty. 1850 census. I live in Corpus Christi, Tx and as soon as I have time I will go to Hamilton, Bosque and Titus Cty, Texas and see if I can find anything. I also plan to go to Tennessee. In addition to Bell and Grissom I will add Stubblefield and Bridges to my search. I have only been doing this a couple of months and I am just floundering around. I guess my next step will be to learn how to organize and research. Thanks again for the correspondence. Best Wishes, Pat

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stubblefield-Grissom-Bridges-Bell-Cash-Yeates(Yates) Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2.1 Message Board Post: How much fun this family puzzle is when you find the pieces. I have been researching my STUBBLEFIELD family listed here at my brick wall of finding the Unknown STUBBLEFIELD: Here is strange assortment of items that I am tracking, it is only a work sheet, subject to daily changes, if you see a name or place you are interested in just ask. I am the GGreat-granddaughter of (Absolom Stubblefield : see listed as the last child of NANCY ANN CLORENCE/ CLORANCE/ CLARENCE./ CLARANCE STUBBLEFIELD & UNKNOWN STUBBLEFIELD. We have a family ancestor "Unknown" Stubblefield (said to have been born in Tenn) married: c. 1819 to NANCY ANN "CLORENCE", born 23 May 1800 in SC or NC They had Eight children: > Polly Stubblefield 1819 AL m: Chappell > William Riley Stubblefield 1822 AL m: 1:JaneNelson 2:Mary Belch > Martha Ann Stubblefield 1823 AL m: Williams > James Stubblefield 1825 AL m: Melton > John S.Stubblefield 1827 AL m: Bell > Molinda Stubblefield 1830 AL m: Grissom > Robert Coleman Stubblefield 1834 AL m: Hobbs > Absolom Stubblefield 1841 TENN. m: Harris We would like to find their father's name! Marriages of these families: Stephen Grissom to Ann Eliza Grissom - 9 Mar 1841 - Wilson County, Tennessee John S Stubblefield to Bethenia Bell - 17 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee Eldridge P Bell to Eleanor Grissom - 30 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee Ridious Bridges to Candis Grissom - Can't Remember - Wilson County, Tennessee Allen Grissom to Malinda Stubblefield - 13 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee Andrew Bell to Parolee -Yeates(Yates) - 21 Oct 1852 - Gibson County, Tennessee Willis B Grissom to Margarette Cash - 3 Oct 1854 - Gibson County, Tennessee William R Stublefield to Mary Belch (2nd wife), licence issued 1 Jun 1858 married 3 Jun 1858; Gibson Co., TN Bondsman was John Stublefield.(John is William's brother) Note: All three families intermarried. Allen Grissom married Malinda Stubblefield, John S Stubblefield's sister.. Allen Grissom's sister Eleanor Grissom married Eldridge Bell, also Bethenia Bell's brother. Andrew Bell & Eldridge Bell's sister Bethenia Bell married John Stubblefield. (Big Circle) And we find these families in later census: 1850 census: all had moved to Gibson Co., TN (1860-1870-1880 census: some staying in Gibson Co., TN & some moving to both Hopkins Co., TX & Titus Co., TX) We started with our Stubblefield family in 1819 Dallas & Jackson Co., AL > then Wilson Co., TN in 1847-48> then Gibson Co. TN> then Hopkins Co., TX I am interested to know if the Stubblefield family joined up with the Grissom-Bridges-Bell families in 1819-1840 Al or met them in the Wilson Co., TN 1847-48. Or perhaps I will find the answer to who Unknown Stubblefield is in NC, where these families came from. My search is for a trail backward from 1819 AL. But a friend sent me lots of information of the the several Stubblefield-Grissom-Bridges-Bell-etc families that I mentioned above, who were all related by marriage. So I will dig that out for you and post it. FYI : "Your" Eldridge P. Bell, b 1825 in NC and married in Tennessee around 1845 (see 1848 above) to Eleanor Grissom, b 1829 in Tennessee. Is the brother to Bethenia Bell who married John S. Stubblefield the brother to my GGreat-grandfather Absolom Stubblefield. You wrote: "By that time (1880) my ggrandfather, Steven Thomas Bell was married to Mary Francis Threlkeld in 1871 and lived in Hamilton Cty with children Charles b. 3/11/1873, Sarah E b. 1/15/1876 and E.P.b. 1879. My grandfather Rab Leon was born 5/18/1887 and moved back to Titus Cty where he met my grandmother Golda Tabb and married 12/29/07. In addition Steven Thomas had children James Bell b 2/8/1886, Mary E b 8/8/1886. It is these last two that you mention, that are confusing with the birth dates being in the same year, six months apart? And also in that same year is one more sibling Sarah E b. 1/15/1876 What are your sources for these dates? Do you have any information on Lydia the mother &/or the father of Eldrdge & Andrew & Bethenia Bell? This is too much fun.

I tried to reply to the person who sent this message below, but my mail was returned to "underliverable". Please check the address below and send a correction. Thaksm Rita [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 3:12 PM Subject: [Tngibson] Mathis from NC and TN > Message Board Post: > > My Mathis line is mangled! What I have seen posted by others conflicts with dates I have proof of. > The will of William T Mathis Gibson Co 2/6/1847 names a James Mathis as son. A letter from his son Jesse in his last genealogy letter states he was the son of James Mathis and his mother was //// Carter who had a brother Sylvester Carter that moved to IL in 1850's. Carters, 1850 have a Sylvester age 17. BUT may have been nephew instead as Louisa was oldest and she died in 1863 leaving children named James and William Chrystenberry.Chrystenberry boys found OK census 1870. Probably in Seb Co AR as Jesse states James died there in1848 at Jenny Lind. > Louisa oldest ? next Elisha W born TX 1836, John Franklin 1838 LA married Mathilda Winchester in 1860 { children Martha and Mary twins, James R, Jessey D. Tennesee A, Judith R, and Margaret. Mary married James Benton Tucker.} > > Jesse B Mathis born Hackett Seb Co AR 1846 married Eliza Early. James was supposed to be traveling preacher so accounted for moving family around. > Jesse living with bro Elisha W in 1860 Seb Co. Jesse AR 2nd in CW. Went to KS to brother John Franlin Mathis, 1865. > Elisha W Mathis died 1884 Hackett Seb Co AR, I have all his records. > Anyone having any info on this line please contact [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2 Message Board Post: I have recently started researching my family and read with interest your posting. My gggrandfather was Eldridge P. Bell, b 1825 in NC and married in Tennessee around 1845 to Eleanor Grissom, b 1829 in Tennessee. They came to Texas sometime before 1870. They are shown on the 1870 Titus Cty, Texas Census with 3 kids, Thomas, Lease F. and Ella M. They moved to Hamilton Cty., Texas and are shown on the 1880 census. On the 1880 census they are shown with children Viney L. and Martha E and niece Sarah. By that time my ggrandfather, Steven Thomas Bell was married to Mary Francis Threlkeld in 1871 and lived in Hamilton Cty with children Charles b. 3/11/1873, Sarah E b. 1/15/1876 and E.P.b. 1879. My grandfather Rab Leon was born 5/18/1887 and moved back to Titus Cty where he met my grandmother Golda Tabb and married 12/29/07. In addition Steven Thomas had children James Bell b 2/8/1886, Mary E b 8/8/1886. I would appreciate any information you can share with me.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mathis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReB.2ACE/2432 Message Board Post: My Mathis line is mangled! What I have seen posted by others conflicts with dates I have proof of. The will of William T Mathis Gibson Co 2/6/1847 names a James Mathis as son. A letter from his son Jesse in his last genealogy letter states he was the son of James Mathis and his mother was //// Carter who had a brother Sylvester Carter that moved to IL in 1850's. Carters, 1850 have a Sylvester age 17. BUT may have been nephew instead as Louisa was oldest and she died in 1863 leaving children named James and William Chrystenberry.Chrystenberry boys found OK census 1870. Probably in Seb Co AR as Jesse states James died there in1848 at Jenny Lind. Louisa oldest ? next Elisha W born TX 1836, John Franklin 1838 LA married Mathilda Winchester in 1860 { children Martha and Mary twins, James R, Jessey D. Tennesee A, Judith R, and Margaret. Mary married James Benton Tucker.} Jesse B Mathis born Hackett Seb Co AR 1846 married Eliza Early. James was supposed to be traveling preacher so accounted for moving family around. Jesse living with bro Elisha W in 1860 Seb Co. Jesse AR 2nd in CW. Went to KS to brother John Franlin Mathis, 1865. Elisha W Mathis died 1884 Hackett Seb Co AR, I have all his records. Anyone having any info on this line please contact [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mathis/Carter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReB.2ACE/2393.1 Message Board Post: Mary married James Mathis Have found no record in Gibson but letter states their travels. contact [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mathes Carter Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReB.2ACE/564.1088.1095.1097 Message Board Post: I am from another son of William T and Lydia. Plese contact