FYI: Much of what became TN was originally claimed as part of the North Carolina colony (whether it was later recognized as "Indian Territories" or not). And many of the land grants in TN originated from lands "belonging" to the Univ of North Carolina. It is possible in some of the early "recordings" of individuals' birth place, that when it is listed as North Carolina, it may have in fact been in territory that later became part of other states, particularly TN & KY. On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Mema wrote: > Rex, > I figure the same as you on the migration the 1840's & 1850's....one of the other posts suggested that the 1800-1850 migration from > NC to TN was because of the land grants from military service in the Rev. War. > > Do you happen to have any more information on the Bell that married your dad's younger sister? > Names and dates? > Maybe I can figure a connection. > mema > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > > > > Mema- I suspect that there was not a specific reason for the great number of > > people migrating from RU to Gibson Co. but that it was basically the overall > > migration westward. As one person or family moved they wrote back to friends > > and family and told them of land availability and other features that they > > liked. Then others followed etc. etc. My first Phillips/Philips moved there > > between 1860 & 1870 but my GG GF ( and one of his brothers)did not come until > > after 1870. > > No I am not aware of any Bell connection in TN although my dad's younger > > sister did marry a Bell here in TX, (Foard Co.). I do not know where they > > originated. I was just checking the Gibson forum and saw your mesages and I remember > > how others have helped me even when it wasn't their lines and just rying to > > repay a little. Good Luck------Rex > > > > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > > > > > > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > -- Robert W. Strong Graduate School of Library ******************* "ANYTHING WORTH TAKING & Information Science ************************ SERIOUSLY IS WORTH University of Texas at Austin********************** MAKING FUN OF." [email protected]

Mema- The only info I have on the Foard Co., TX Bells is from a transcrition of the 1920 Census for Foard Co., Tx. The family was Arthur Bell age 27, b. TX, Fa born NC, Mother born NC; wife Verda, age 21, b. Tx, Fa.- MO. & Mother -Miss; and son ( who married my Aunt) Raymond A., age 2 yrs, 7 months, born TX. The Bells lived in the Rayland Community of Foard Co. Raymond A. died abut 5 years ago but his widow, son and two daughters survive. She and the two daughters live in Vernon, Tx. and the son lives in West Texas. With the father being from NC there is certainly the possibility of them being connected to your Bells. Rex

The reason for the migration was that the area that became Gibson Co. was Indian Territory until ca. 1823 when the treaty was signed with Chickasaw Indians. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > Mema- I suspect that there was not a specific reason for the great number of > people migrating from RU to Gibson Co. but that it was basically the overall > migration westward. As one person or family moved they wrote back to friends > and family and told them of land availability and other features that they > liked. Then others followed etc. etc. My first Phillips/Philips moved there > between 1860 & 1870 but my GG GF ( and one of his brothers)did not come until > after 1870. > No I am not aware of any Bell connection in TN although my dad's younger > sister did marry a Bell here in TX, (Foard Co.). I do not know where they > originated. I was just checking the Gibson forum and saw your mesages and I remember > how others have helped me even when it wasn't their lines and just rying to > repay a little. Good Luck------Rex > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > >

Mema- I suspect that there was not a specific reason for the great number of people migrating from RU to Gibson Co. but that it was basically the overall migration westward. As one person or family moved they wrote back to friends and family and told them of land availability and other features that they liked. Then others followed etc. etc. My first Phillips/Philips moved there between 1860 & 1870 but my GG GF ( and one of his brothers)did not come until after 1870. No I am not aware of any Bell connection in TN although my dad's younger sister did marry a Bell here in TX, (Foard Co.). I do not know where they originated. I was just checking the Gibson forum and saw your mesages and I remember how others have helped me even when it wasn't their lines and just rying to repay a little. Good Luck------Rex

Suggest you check out Rutherford Co.( just 30 miles south of Nashville). For some reason tere were a lot of people migrated from Rutherford to Gibson in 1850-1870 period, including about 12 of my Phillips line. I know trhere was a Nancy Bell who married a Willaim King in RU. Co. in 1844 and they moved to Gibson Co. I believe she hasd a sister nmaed Lillian but am not positive. Am listing the URL for RU Co. archives below. They have a lot of court records (index primarily but they have some students working there who will look up the item/article and Email you the info). -- Rex Phillips- Dallas http://www.rutherfordcounty.org/archives/main.html

Rex, I figure the same as you on the migration the 1840's & 1850's....one of the other posts suggested that the 1800-1850 migration from NC to TN was because of the land grants from military service in the Rev. War. Do you happen to have any more information on the Bell that married your dad's younger sister? Names and dates? Maybe I can figure a connection. mema ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > Mema- I suspect that there was not a specific reason for the great number of > people migrating from RU to Gibson Co. but that it was basically the overall > migration westward. As one person or family moved they wrote back to friends > and family and told them of land availability and other features that they > liked. Then others followed etc. etc. My first Phillips/Philips moved there > between 1860 & 1870 but my GG GF ( and one of his brothers)did not come until > after 1870. > No I am not aware of any Bell connection in TN although my dad's younger > sister did marry a Bell here in TX, (Foard Co.). I do not know where they > originated. I was just checking the Gibson forum and saw your mesages and I remember > how others have helped me even when it wasn't their lines and just rying to > repay a little. Good Luck------Rex > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > >

Rex, Thank you for jumping in here with that supporting information. I will check that out. Have you found out what the reason was for "a lot of people migrated from Rutherford to Gibson in 1850-1870 period, including about 12 of my Phillips line". ?? Because seven families of our immediate Stubblefield siblings that married in Wilson Co., TN (Wilson Co., is just North of Rutherford Co., TN) moved to Gibson County, and all lived near each other in the 1850 census. One of the interesting things is that ALL the families that married into the Stubblefield family were from NC. I have a index list of all the Bell's in Gibson Co., 1850 census and of the fifty or so there were only three that were not from NC and those were from SC. And going by the birth dates of their children the migration was about 1810 to 1830 from NC to TN. Do you have any BELL family lines in your tree? Because we have one of ours that migrated on to TX. One of the reasons that the Rutherford County is so interesting to me is that the migration pattern of my Stubblefield family [as I have found so far] is : 1819 "birth of first Stubblefield sibling" through 1830 census & 1840 census AL> 1841 Rutherford County TN for the birth of the last Stubblefield sibling> 1844 Wilson Co., Tn has several Stubblefield siblings marriage records> 1850 Gibson Co., TN census has them all living near each other.> I have followed the split of some going to CA and some to TX by 1860 census. I have been off all lists for a time, now I remember how generous & helpful everyone is on them. I love your sense of humor in your addy. Thanks mema ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > Suggest you check out Rutherford Co.( just 30 miles south of Nashville). For > some reason tere were a lot of people migrated from Rutherford to Gibson in > 1850-1870 period, including about 12 of my Phillips line. I know trhere was a > Nancy Bell who married a Willaim King in RU. Co. in 1844 and they moved to > Gibson Co. I believe she hasd a sister nmaed Lillian but am not positive. Am > listing the URL for RU Co. archives below. They have a lot of court records > (index primarily but they have some students working there who will look up the > item/article and Email you the info). -- Rex Phillips- Dallas > http://www.rutherfordcounty.org/archives/main.html > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ >

None of what you say is familiar to me. I have a Hiram Fleming but he was born in Coffey county, Kansas. I have a Jimina Hopper that married an Erasmus Fleming in Gibson county in 1852 but have no further iinformation on her. Kay

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ReB.2ACE/2433 Message Board Post: I am looking for the father (and other ancestors) of John Dennis Dozier (b 1852 somewhere in TN). Believe his name was Joseph and he may have had a 2nd wife named Edna. Thanks, Jim

I am looking for information on Elizabeth Bates who married John Wesley Olive 3 May 1891. I think she was born 1859 and Died 8 March 1904 and is buried in the Old Mayfield Cemetery. I think she had a brother W W Bates and that her mother was Sarah Jane. Any help would be appreciated Thanks Bennie [email protected]

To Kay Fleming: do you have ancestors in Gibson County? In an adjoining line of mine there was a Hiram W. Fleming (b. abt 1827) who married Eliza Carroll (b. abt 1828). They moved to Gibson County from Sampson County, NC around 1848 and lived in the Morella Community I think. Eliza was the daughter of John W. Carroll of Sampson County. If any of this rings a bell and you would like to share info, drop me a note. Frank Edwards ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:46 AM Subject: [Tngibson] MATHES, Miriam V. > I have a Miriam V. MATHES born OCt 6, 1832 in Tn and died 17 March 1910 in > Union Grove, Obion , Tn. She married Moses Josiah HOPPER probably in Gibson or > Dyer county, Tn. Am seeking names of her parents. > Kay Fleming > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > >

I'm also interested in the SC Bells. I am a descendant of Hance Hamilton and Nancy Bell who married July 31, 1798 in Chester District, SC. I believe also listed was a Valentine Bell and although I believe there is a relationship to Nancy Bell Hamilton, I can prove it. Any help greatly appreciated. Pat

I will have to go back through my records and see what I can find.....I'll get back to you on that.....It may take until next Sunday before I can let you know. I must have been nuts to go back to school at my age......Tersa

I never have been able to find any trace of Lydia after 1850. I figured she died or moved....I searched the graveyards in Gibbson Co. that were on-line, but not Wilson Co. If her husband did die in Wilson Co. they may have taken her back there. It's not that far away. Or she could have re-married and moved. I couldn't find any Lydia's that would have match her age in Gibbson in 1860, 1870, or 1880. and I looked at every household. To bad only the Head of House hold was shown on the 1840 census, our case would be solved.....Teresa

Might there be a connection to "our Lydia" ? Teresa

The James & Susan Bell and George Bell below are my gg-grandfather's brothers. I am still uncertain who their father was. One of those Valentines might be their grandfather, but have not found all the connections yet. There is also another brother Elisha Bell that married Lydia Boshers. They were in Gibson County in 1860, 1870 and 1880. 280a 11 BELL, SUSAN 18 TN 280a 10 BELL, JAMES 27 TN " Line 37 " GEORGE 21 TN " ----- Original Message ----- From: Mema To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family I have taken the individual BELL members listed in the 1850 Gibson Co.,TN index and placed them in family units according to their page number and house number: You asked about a George & Valentine Bell from SC? 1850 Gibson Co.,TN census index: 279b (pg 0279a txt) line 34 BELL, VALENTINE (male) 65 SC line 35 BELL, PRISCILLA 44 NC line 36 BELL, FRANCIS 25 TN line 37 BELL,GEORGE 21 TN I have not figured a connection to my Bell family as yet, but find it interesting that these families are numbered living near to each other: (1) *(This one that follows, might connect the two Valentines (in both of these groups) because of the unusual name and the fact they both come from SC.& also to Lydia because of the living near by) 128a 12 BELL,WILLIAM 8 TN pg 0123a 128a 16 BELL, ISABELLA 1 TN pg 0123a 128a 13 BELL, JOHN 6 TN pg 0123a 128a 14 BELL ALEXANDER 5 TN pg 0123a 128a 15 BELL, REBECCA 4 TN pg 0123a 128a 11 BELL, TELITHA 25 TN pg 0123a 128a 10 BELL, VALENTINE 73 SC pg 0123a (2) *(This one that follows, might be related because of the nearness to JAMES BELL who might be a son of Lydia BELL) 279b 34 " VALENTINE (male) 65 SC pg 0279a txt " 36 " FRANCIS 25 TN " " 37 " GEORGE 21 TN " " 35 " PRISCILLA 44 NC " Next door: (3) (Could be one of "my" Lydia's sons living near her) pg 0279a " 280a 11 BELL, SUSAN 18 TN 280a 10 BELL, JAMES 27 TN Close by: (4) (*Here is "my" BELL family) pg 0279a 284b 36 BELL ELDRIDGE 25 NC 284b 37 BELL, ELEANOR (nee:Grissom) 21 TN (Possible son: James Bell listed above) 284b 38 BELL, LYDIA 55 NC 284b 39 BELL, ANDREW 18 TN Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. mema --------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bettye Seaton Liberty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > Do any of you connect to the Bells from S. C. and probably AL. In particular, George Bell and Valentine Bell? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 3:22 PM > Subject: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Pat, > I get just as excited when I can share family information, as when I find a piece of the puzzle myself. > > Below I will post some information that came to me from a "distant KZN" that is a whiz in the research, and very generous. > > One of the things she advised me to get was a Delux Legacy 5.0 ancestry program to install all my information onto as I went.....well, I cannot tell you how IMPORTANT that is for you to do, right now, in the beginning of your research on your family. I am playing catch-up with putting my stored information onto my new Delux Legacy 5.0 program, but I am loving every minute of it. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Here is the work sheet for the families I mentioned to you that are related by marriage: > > Grissom family > father: Unknown Grissom (maybe John) > mother: Mary Unknown b:NC > Children: > Stephen Grissom - 1816 - North Carolina > [Thomas Grissom could be a sibling b: 1817-18 NC?] > Candis Grissom - 1821 - North Carolina > Allen Grissom - 1824 - North Carolina > Eleanor Grissom - 1828 - Tennessee > [WH Grissom could be a sibling b: 1830 TN?] > Willis B Grissom - 1833 - Alabama > Malvina Grissom - 1836 - Alabama > Taking in their migration, they were in Wilson Co. TN in 1847& 1848 & 1850 in Gibson Co TN > ************************************************************************ > It has never been proven where Nancy Clorence/Clorance Stubblefield was born 1800. some say TN, some say SC but with these families that are married into the three families coming from NC it seems to me that we might find that Nancy came from NC too. > I wonder if NC had split off TN by 1800? I think so ! > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Someone sent me this : > 1850 Gibson Co., TN census (all the Bells) > Bell Alexander 5 Tenn pg 0123a.txt > 137a 11 Bell Alexander 8 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 284b 39 Bell Andrew 18 Ten pg0279a.txt > 136b 12 Bell Ann 12 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 11 Bell Caroline 4 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 284b 36 Bell Eldridge P. 25 NC pg0279a.txt > 284b 37 Bell Eleanor 21 Ten pg0279a.txt > 137a 7 Bell Elijah 35 Ala pg0134a.txt > 153a 12 Bell Elinor 3 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 137a 12 Bell Eliza 7 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 9 Bell Elizabeth 8 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 239b 26 Bell Elizabeth 24 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 306a 8 Bell Elizabeth 17 NC pg0301b.txt > 279b 36 Bell Frances 25 Ten pg0279a.txt > 136b 14 Bell George 9 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 137a 9 Bell George 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 279b 37 Bell George 21 Ten pg0279a.txt > 153a 4 Bell H. M. 41 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 128a 16 Bell Isabella 1 Tenn pg0123a.txt > 136b 10 Bell James 42 SC pg0134a.txt > 137a 10 Bell James 10 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 257a 38 Bell James 33 NC pg0256b.txt > 280a 10 Bell James 27 Ten pg0279a.txt > 204a 16 Bell James G. 45 NC pg0200a.txt > 204a 17 Bell Jane 50 NC pg0200a.txt > 128a 13 Bell John 6 Tenn pg0123a.txt > 153a 8 Bell John 13 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 306a 7 Bell John 27 NC pg0301b.txt > 206a 10 Bell John W. 23 Tenn pg0200a.txt > 137a 15 Bell Jonah 4/12 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 13 Bell Joseph 6/12 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 284b 38 Bell Lydia 55 NC pg0279a.txt > 239b 28 Bell Margaret 7 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 136b 13 Bell Margarett 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 136b 16 Bell Martha 4 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 137a 13 Bell Mary 5 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 10 Bell Mary 6 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 136b 11 Bell Michal 40 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 5 Bell Minerva 34 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 137a 8 Bell Nancy 32 NC pg0134a.txt > 137a 14 Bell Neill 3 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 257a 37 Bell Penelope 58 NC pg0256b.txt > 279b 35 Bell Priscilla 44 NC pg0279a.txt > 204a 18 Bell Rachael 28 NC pg0200a.txt > 128a 15 Bell Rebecca 4 Tenn pg0123a.txt > 136b 17 Bell Robert 2 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 153a 6 Bell Robert 19 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 257a 40 Bell Robert 17 Tenn pg0256b.txt > 306a 9 Bell Robt. 3/12 Ten pg0301b.txt > 136b 15 Bell Sarah 6 Tenn pg0134a.txt > 239b 29 Bell Sarah 5 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 280a 11 Bell Susan 18 Ten pg0279a.txt > 128a 11 Bell Telitha 25 NC pg0123a.txt > 239b 25 Bell Tho's F. 26 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 128a 10 Bell Valentine 73 SC pg0123a.txt > 279b 34 Bell Valentine 65 SC pg0279a.txt > 128a 12 Bell William 8 Tenn pg0123a.txt > 153a 7 Bell William 17 Tenn pg0145a.txt > 239b 27 Bell William 23 Tenn pg0234a.txt > 257a 39 Bell William 22 Tenn pg0256b.txt > 257a 36 Bell Wm. A. 65 NC pg0256b.txt > At one time I had this list sorted into families by the first letters in each line.it was pretty interesting...I'll work on it to see what I can find this time. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bell Family > father: possibly James Bell > mother: Lydia [Perhaps Chapman] > ?Marriage?: 25 Apr 1814 - Chatham County, North Carolina > Children: > Eldridge P Bell - 1824 - North Carolina > Bethenia Bell - 1825 - Tennessee > Andrew Bell - 1831 - Tennessee > and others ,older, I'm sure we are missing > [? older children born between 1814 and 1823 were moved out] > > 1850 Gibson Co., TN Census > LYDIA BELL ,55, F, W, NC > ELDRIDGE P. BELL 25, M, W, NC > (Bethenia would fit in here) > ELEANOR BELL, 21, F, W, TN > ANDREW BELL, 18, M, E, TN. > > That information would indicate that this family moved from NC to TN about 1832. > > GIBSON COUNTY, TENNESSEE MARRIAGES > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/tn+index+400261523892+F > > BELL, Andrew marr. YEATES, Parolle on 21-OCT-1852 > ************************************************************************ > Marriages of these families: > > John S Stubblefield to Bethenia Bell - 17 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Eldridge P Bell to Eleanor Grissom - 30 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Andrew Bell to Parolee Yeates(Yates) - 21 Oct 1852 - Gibson County, Tennessee ( I have another connection of Parolee Yeates/Yates to other families of interest to be posted later) > > Stephen Grissom to Ann Eliza (?) Grissom - 9 Mar 1841 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Ridious Bridges to Candis Grissom - Can't Remember - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Allen Grissom to Malinda Stubblefield - 13 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > Willis B Grissom to Margarette Cash - 3 Oct 1854 - Gibson County, Tennessee > > Note:All three families intermarried. > Allen Grissom married Malinda Stubblefield. > Allen's sister Eleanor Grissom married Eldridge Bell. > Eldridge's sister Bethenia Bell married John Stubblefield. > (Big Circle) > ************************************************************************ > Census Records for these families > > 1850 Gibson County Dist# 14 > **But very interesting that they were married Wilson Co TN and moved to Gibson Co.,TN like all the rest. Keeping an eye on this family to see where or if they connect someplace. > > Kinkaid, William J - 21 - born Tennessee > > Kinkaid, Polly - 24 - born Alabama (maybe 2nd marriage?) > > Kinkaid, Martha - 2 - born Tennessee > > Kinkaid, James - 3/12 - born Tennessee > > no mention of our Edwin Chappell - so probably not our Polly > (Edwin Chappell was born in 1840 and was with his Grandmother Nancy Stubblefield in Gibson Co TN by c.1852) I have often wondered why Edwin was with his grandmother, perhaps if Polly gave birth at a very young age (14-15 was not unheard of), but that is about the same time Unknown disapeared too and maybe Polly's husband and Unknown were killed in some kind of skermish with the Indians or whatever????? Still looking for the Chappell family ancestry. > > 1850 Gibson County Dist# 11 > family 2220 > Bell, Eldridge P - 25 - born North Carolina > Bell, Eleanor - 21 - born Tennessee > > family 2221 > Bell, Lydia - 55 - born North Carolina > Bell, Andrew - 18 - born Tennessee > (he is listed as Andy Bell when his widow Paralee (YEATES, Parolle) applied for a Confederate Soldiers Pension) > > family 2223 > Stubblefield, John > m: Bethenia Bell > etc > > family 2224 > Stubblefield, William R > etc > > family 2225 > Stubblefield, Nancy - 45 - Tennessee > Stubblefield, Robert - 18 - born Alabama > Stubblefield, Abraham (Absolom) - 11 - born Alabama > > family 2227 > Grissom, Allen - 25 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Malinda - 20 - born Alabama (Stubblefield) > Grissom, Stephen - 3 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Nancy - 3/12 - born Tennessee > > family 2233 > Grissom, Stephen - 33 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Ann - 26 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Mary - 3 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Mary - 55 - born North Carolina (Allen's Mother) > Grissom, Willis - 16 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Malvina - 13 - born Alabama (Allen's sister) > > 1850 Gibson County Dist 17 > > Bridges, Ridious - 28 - born Alabama (love that name) > Bridges, Candis - 28 - born North Carolina (she is Candis Grissom)(Allen's sister b:1821) > Bridges, John - 9 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Mary - 8 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Matilda - 5 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Nancy - 3 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Martha - 4/12 - born Tennessee > Grissum, Mary - 60 - born North Carolina > (This is a second elderly lady named Mary Griss*m in Gibson Co 1850 census & two children named the same, the ages the same????must be CT error) > Grissum, Willis - 16 - born Tennessee > Grissum, Vina - 14 - born Tennessee > Notice the last three are the same (usual mistakes) as enumerated with Stephen earlier. <grin> > ************************************************************************Stephen Grissom (Allen's brother) and family stayed in TN > Andrew Bell (Bethenia's brother) and family stayed in TN > ********************************************************************** > 1860 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist 11 > > family 1682 (related?) > Grissom, John - 72 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Sarah - 73 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Nancy - 36 - born North Carolina > Whitlock, David - 17 - born Illinois (farm hand) > > family 1683 > Grissom, W.H. - 30 - born Tennessee (This could be another sibling, his age fits in between the others.) > Grissom, Isabella - 28 - born Tennessee > Grissom, John - 8 - born Tennessee (first son named John) > Grissom, William - 6 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Martha - 5 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Sarah - 4 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Elijah - 1 - born Tennessee > > family 1684 > Grissom, Stephen - 42 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Ann - 36 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Mary - 13 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Sarah - 9 - born Tennessee > Grissom, John - 5 - born Tennessee (first son named John) > Grissom, Vinia - 3 - born Tennessee > Grissom, James - 2/12 - born Tennessee > **************************************************** > 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) > (very close to the Stubblefields in Hopkins co., Mt Pleasant is in Titus County, just East of Hopkins Co. TX) > > family 672 > Grissom, Willis B - 36 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Martha - 31 - born Alabama (Do we know who this maiden name is?) > Grissom, John - 14 - born Tennessee (first son named John) (first daughter named Mary) > Grissom, Mary - 12 - Tennessee (there is a big space between Mary 12 yr and Lucy 11 months, or a typo) > Grissom, Lucy M - 11/12 - born Texas (Family to TX by1869) > Bridges, Mary E - 14 - born Texas (b:1856 in TX) > Bridges, James - 12 - born Texas > Bridges, Alfred - 10 - born Texas > (why three Bridges children with this family?) > > family 771 > Grissom, Thomas - 53 - born North Carolina > (I believe he would be a brother to the rest of the Grissoms) (Very likely, b: 1817 in the 1815-1823 space) > Grissom, Mattie - 36 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Willis - 17 - b: AR (named for his brother Willis B ?) > Grissom, Frances - 14 - born Arkansas > Grissom, Emma - 13 - born Arkansas > Grissom, California - 10 - born Arkansas > Grissom, John - 7 - born Texas (Family to Texas by 1863?) > Grissom, Margaret - 5 - born Texas > Grissom, Ida - 1 - born Texas > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Pat, > Here is the 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists your Eldridge P. Bell with the listing of your "Steven" Thomas Bell as a widower with two young children that were born in TX.( I have more questions below) > > family 772 > Bell, Eldridge P - 45 - born North Carolina (Bethenia's brother) > Bell, Eleanor - 41 - born Tennessee (Allen's sister) > Bell, Thomas - 24 - born Tennessee (in TX at least by 1866) > Bell, Liousa - 4- born Texas > Bell, Ella M - 7/12 - born Texas > would guess Thomas is a son and a widower with the two girls > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > family 876 > Bridges, Ridious - 56 - born Alabama > Bridges, Candis - 48 - born North Carolina > (Allen Grissoms's sister) > Bridges, Martha F - 18 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Walker W - 16 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Lorenzo - 14 - born Tennessee > Bridges, Ephriam - 10 - born Texas (moved to TX 1860ish)Bridges, Thomas - 6 - born Texas > Grissom, Vina - 33 - born Alabama (not married) (sister to Allen, Stephen, Candis etc) > ************************************************* > > 1870 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist#14 > > family 49 > Bell, Andy - 38 - born Tennessee (Bethenia's brother) > Bell, Paralee - 38 - born Tennessee (Yeates /Yates) > Bell, Alsa - 16 - born Tennessee > Bell, Mary - 14 - born Tennessee > Bell, Albert - 11 - born Tennessee > Bell, Dezie - 7 - born Tennessee > Bell, James - 5 - born Tennessee > Bell, Nancy - 2 - born Tennessee > Bell, Baby - 1/12 - born Tennessee > ********************************************** > > 1880 Gibson County Tennessee Dist 11 > > family 145 > Grissom, Stephen - 62 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > Grissom, Ann E = 55 - born North Carolina > Grissom, Mary H - 32 - born Tennessee (never married) > Grissom, Sarah L - 29 - born Tennessee (never married) > Grissom, John A - 25 - born Tennessee (widower) > Grissom, James A - 20 - born Tennessee > Grissom, George W - 16 - born Tennessee > Grissom, Stephen - 13 - born Tennessee > ************************************************************************ Did we last see Allen & Malinda/Molinda Stubblefield Grissom in 1850 Gibson Co., TN? That was when Malinda/Molinda's mother Nancy "C" Stubblefield gathered her daughter Martha Stubblefield Williams (w/ Husband William Madison Williams & children & her grandson Edwin Chappell, w/ her two youngest Robert C. & Absolom Stubblefield up, and moved them to CA. Also a Nancy Y. Grissom b: 1941 TN...who later married Edwin Chappell . > (wish I could connect that Nancy "Y" Grissom to these Grissom families.) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > We find Nancy's two older sons (William & John) still in Gibson County, TN in the 1860 census, so they did not make the trek to CA with the rest of the Stubblefield family: > This file was contributed for use in the USGenWeb > Pages 338a - 348b > CENSUS YR: 1860 > TERRITORY: TN > COUNTY: Gibson > DIVISION: District > No. 14 PAGE NO: 338a > REFERENCE: P.O. Lynn Point > > 26 2026 2049 Stubblefield J 27 M Farmer 1,200 1,000 AL > (b: 12 Jun 1827 AL m: c. 1849 d: 11 Feb 1906 > 27 2026 2049 Stubblefield Bethan? 34 F TN > (b: 05 Jan 1824 NC m: c. 1849 TN d: 05 May 1905) > 28 2026 2049 Stubblefield Nancy 11 F TN > (b: 14 Oct 1849 TN M: ? d: 15 Nov 1887) > 29 2026 2049 Stubblefield William Andrew 9 M TN > (b: 15 May 1850 TN m:? d: 17 Feb 1904 > 30 2026 2049 Stubblefield James 8 M TN > (b: 1851 TN m:? d:?) > 31 2026 2049 Stubblefield Martha 6 F TN > (b: 1854 TN m:? d:?) > 32 2026 2049 Stubblefield Ana 3 F TN > (b: c 1855) m:? d:?) > 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield John (P) 1 M TN > (b: c. 1860 m:? d:?) > 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield, Lucricia > (b: c. 1862 TN m: ? d: ?) > **after this census in 1860 in Gibson Co TN. we find that JOHN S.STUBBLEFIELD family had moved to Texas, where they had more children :(had moved to TX between 1862 & 1865) > > BETHENIA / BETTIE STUBBLEFIELD b:1865 d: 22 July 1939 STEPHEN H STUBBLEFIELD b: 11 July 1866 d: 14 Aug 1948 > THOMAS E. STUBBLEFIELD b: 25 Mar 1870 in Hopkins Co., Sulpher Bluff,TX > *********************************** > Pat, > Questions: > The above 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists the Eldridge P. Bell family with your "Steven" Thomas Bell with two young children born in TX indicates that "Steven"Thomas Bell was married two times. > > You have listed: > Steven Thomas Bell, b: 11/14/1845, d: 8/12/1909 > Mary Francis( Fannie) Threlkeld, b: 8/19/1852, d: 2/19/1925 > Children > Charles A. Bell, b: 3/11/1873 > THIS IS THE FIRST CHILD OF THIS MARRIAGE > Which indicates that this is the second marriage of "Steven" Thomas Bell. Do you have the 1880 census for this family that shows the first two children that were listed in the 1870 census: > Bell, Liousa - b: c. 1866 TX would be 14 yrs in 1880 > Bell, Ella M - b: c. 1870 TX would be 10 yrs in 1880. > > Sarah E. Bell, b: 1/15/1876 > Eldridge Perryman Bell, b: 1/12/1877, d: 1/13/1884 > James Henry Bell, b: 12/13/1881 > Mary Ella Bell, b: 2/8/1886, d: 9/17/1887 > Rab Leon Bell, b: 5/18/1887, d: 3/4/1953 > Floy E. Bell, b: 8/9/1893 > > There is a cemetery in Titus County that was dedicated by the R.Bridges family, when I find that I will post it. > > Congratulations on having such a great start to your family research, keep in touch and let me know what you find. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/

I would be delighted to know about the SC Bells that you speak of, if you would care to share. Thanks mema ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 4:20 PM Subject: [Tngibson] Re: TNGIBSON-D Digest V04 #11 > I'm also interested in the SC Bells. I am a descendant of Hance Hamilton and > Nancy Bell who married July 31, 1798 in Chester District, SC. I believe also > listed was a Valentine Bell and although I believe there is a relationship to > Nancy Bell Hamilton, I can prove it. > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Pat > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > >

Same here, but I keep turning rocks & finding bits and pieces. I just sent you what I posted on the Boshers board. It is possible that the Elisha Bell (she speaks of) is married to Lydia. If he was born at the one end of the possible siblings, say. circa 1800 (Lydia was born circa 1795). Have you ever found any Bell household in Wilson County TN 1840 with what could have been the right numbers for Eldridge & Bethenia & Andrew? There might be other numbers there for other siblings too. Because that would be when Eldridge was married in Wilson County TN, is in the 1840's Take care mema ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deetees" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > I never have been able to find any trace of Lydia after 1850. I figured she > died or moved....I searched the graveyards in Gibbson Co. that were on-line, > but not Wilson Co. If her husband did die in Wilson Co. they may have taken > her back there. It's not that far away. Or she could have re-married and > moved. I couldn't find any Lydia's that would have match her age in Gibbson > in 1860, 1870, or 1880. and I looked at every household. To bad only the > Head of House hold was shown on the 1840 census, our case would be > solved.....Teresa > > > ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== > Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ > >

I must be tired today: I would like to know the name of your gg-grandfather. (brother to James Bell, George Bell, Elisha Bell.) Please, and dates if you would care to share. mema ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mema" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > I'm missed the most interesting part of your posting: > "Elisha Bell that married Lydia Boshers." > Do you have dates that go with those two? > Thanks > mema > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bettye Seaton Liberty" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > > > > The James & Susan Bell and George Bell below are my gg-grandfather's brothers. I am still uncertain who their father was. One > of those Valentines might be their grandfather, but have not found all the connections yet. There is also another brother Elisha Bell that married Lydia Boshers. They were in Gibson County in 1860, 1870 and 1880. > > > > 280a 11 BELL, SUSAN 18 TN > > 280a 10 BELL, JAMES 27 TN > > > > " Line 37 " GEORGE 21 TN " > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mema > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 5:15 PM > > Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > > > > > > I have taken the individual BELL members listed in the 1850 Gibson Co.,TN index and placed them in family units according to > their > > page number and house number: > > > > You asked about a George & Valentine Bell from SC? > > > > 1850 Gibson Co.,TN census index: > > 279b (pg 0279a txt) > > > > line 34 BELL, VALENTINE (male) 65 SC > > line 35 BELL, PRISCILLA 44 NC > > line 36 BELL, FRANCIS 25 TN > > line 37 BELL,GEORGE 21 TN > > > > I have not figured a connection to my Bell family as yet, but find it interesting that these families are numbered living near > to > > each other: > > (1) > > *(This one that follows, might connect the two Valentines (in both of these groups) because of the unusual name and the fact > they > > both come from SC.& also to Lydia because of the living near by) > > > > > > 128a 12 BELL,WILLIAM 8 TN pg 0123a > > 128a 16 BELL, ISABELLA 1 TN pg 0123a > > 128a 13 BELL, JOHN 6 TN pg 0123a > > 128a 14 BELL ALEXANDER 5 TN pg 0123a > > 128a 15 BELL, REBECCA 4 TN pg 0123a > > 128a 11 BELL, TELITHA 25 TN pg 0123a > > 128a 10 BELL, VALENTINE 73 SC pg 0123a > > > > (2) > > *(This one that follows, might be related because of the nearness to JAMES BELL who might be a son of Lydia BELL) > > 279b 34 " VALENTINE (male) 65 SC pg 0279a txt > > " 36 " FRANCIS 25 TN " > > " 37 " GEORGE 21 TN " > > " 35 " PRISCILLA 44 NC " > > Next door: > > (3) > > (Could be one of "my" Lydia's sons living near her) > > pg 0279a " > > 280a 11 BELL, SUSAN 18 TN > > 280a 10 BELL, JAMES 27 TN > > Close by: > > (4) > > (*Here is "my" BELL family) > > pg 0279a > > 284b 36 BELL ELDRIDGE 25 NC > > 284b 37 BELL, ELEANOR (nee:Grissom) 21 TN > > (Possible son: James Bell listed above) > > 284b 38 BELL, LYDIA 55 NC > > 284b 39 BELL, ANDREW 18 TN > > > > Any ideas or suggestions are welcome. > > mema > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bettye Seaton Liberty" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 12:57 PM > > Subject: Re: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > > > > > > > Do any of you connect to the Bells from S. C. and probably AL. In particular, George Bell and Valentine Bell? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 3:22 PM > > > Subject: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2.1.1.1 > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > Pat, > > > I get just as excited when I can share family information, as when I find a piece of the puzzle myself. > > > > > > Below I will post some information that came to me from a "distant KZN" that is a whiz in the research, and very generous. > > > > > > One of the things she advised me to get was a Delux Legacy 5.0 ancestry program to install all my information onto as I > > went.....well, I cannot tell you how IMPORTANT that is for you to do, right now, in the beginning of your research on your > family. > > I am playing catch-up with putting my stored information onto my new Delux Legacy 5.0 program, but I am loving every minute of > it. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Here is the work sheet for the families I mentioned to you that are related by marriage: > > > > > > Grissom family > > > father: Unknown Grissom (maybe John) > > > mother: Mary Unknown b:NC > > > Children: > > > Stephen Grissom - 1816 - North Carolina > > > [Thomas Grissom could be a sibling b: 1817-18 NC?] > > > Candis Grissom - 1821 - North Carolina > > > Allen Grissom - 1824 - North Carolina > > > Eleanor Grissom - 1828 - Tennessee > > > [WH Grissom could be a sibling b: 1830 TN?] > > > Willis B Grissom - 1833 - Alabama > > > Malvina Grissom - 1836 - Alabama > > > Taking in their migration, they were in Wilson Co. TN in 1847& 1848 & 1850 in Gibson Co TN > > > ************************************************************************ > > > It has never been proven where Nancy Clorence/Clorance Stubblefield was born 1800. some say TN, some say SC but with these > > families that are married into the three families coming from NC it seems to me that we might find that Nancy came from NC too. > > > I wonder if NC had split off TN by 1800? I think so ! > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Someone sent me this : > > > 1850 Gibson Co., TN census (all the Bells) > > > Bell Alexander 5 Tenn pg 0123a.txt > > > 137a 11 Bell Alexander 8 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 284b 39 Bell Andrew 18 Ten pg0279a.txt > > > 136b 12 Bell Ann 12 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 153a 11 Bell Caroline 4 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > > 284b 36 Bell Eldridge P. 25 NC pg0279a.txt > > > 284b 37 Bell Eleanor 21 Ten pg0279a.txt > > > 137a 7 Bell Elijah 35 Ala pg0134a.txt > > > 153a 12 Bell Elinor 3 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > > 137a 12 Bell Eliza 7 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 153a 9 Bell Elizabeth 8 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > > 239b 26 Bell Elizabeth 24 Tenn pg0234a.txt > > > 306a 8 Bell Elizabeth 17 NC pg0301b.txt > > > 279b 36 Bell Frances 25 Ten pg0279a.txt > > > 136b 14 Bell George 9 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 137a 9 Bell George 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 279b 37 Bell George 21 Ten pg0279a.txt > > > 153a 4 Bell H. M. 41 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > > 128a 16 Bell Isabella 1 Tenn pg0123a.txt > > > 136b 10 Bell James 42 SC pg0134a.txt > > > 137a 10 Bell James 10 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 257a 38 Bell James 33 NC pg0256b.txt > > > 280a 10 Bell James 27 Ten pg0279a.txt > > > 204a 16 Bell James G. 45 NC pg0200a.txt > > > 204a 17 Bell Jane 50 NC pg0200a.txt > > > 128a 13 Bell John 6 Tenn pg0123a.txt > > > 153a 8 Bell John 13 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > > 306a 7 Bell John 27 NC pg0301b.txt > > > 206a 10 Bell John W. 23 Tenn pg0200a.txt > > > 137a 15 Bell Jonah 4/12 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 153a 13 Bell Joseph 6/12 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > > 284b 38 Bell Lydia 55 NC pg0279a.txt > > > 239b 28 Bell Margaret 7 Tenn pg0234a.txt > > > 136b 13 Bell Margarett 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 136b 16 Bell Martha 4 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 137a 13 Bell Mary 5 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 153a 10 Bell Mary 6 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > > 136b 11 Bell Michal 40 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 153a 5 Bell Minerva 34 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > > 137a 8 Bell Nancy 32 NC pg0134a.txt > > > 137a 14 Bell Neill 3 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 257a 37 Bell Penelope 58 NC pg0256b.txt > > > 279b 35 Bell Priscilla 44 NC pg0279a.txt > > > 204a 18 Bell Rachael 28 NC pg0200a.txt > > > 128a 15 Bell Rebecca 4 Tenn pg0123a.txt > > > 136b 17 Bell Robert 2 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 153a 6 Bell Robert 19 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > > 257a 40 Bell Robert 17 Tenn pg0256b.txt > > > 306a 9 Bell Robt. 3/12 Ten pg0301b.txt > > > 136b 15 Bell Sarah 6 Tenn pg0134a.txt > > > 239b 29 Bell Sarah 5 Tenn pg0234a.txt > > > 280a 11 Bell Susan 18 Ten pg0279a.txt > > > 128a 11 Bell Telitha 25 NC pg0123a.txt > > > 239b 25 Bell Tho's F. 26 Tenn pg0234a.txt > > > 128a 10 Bell Valentine 73 SC pg0123a.txt > > > 279b 34 Bell Valentine 65 SC pg0279a.txt > > > 128a 12 Bell William 8 Tenn pg0123a.txt > > > 153a 7 Bell William 17 Tenn pg0145a.txt > > > 239b 27 Bell William 23 Tenn pg0234a.txt > > > 257a 39 Bell William 22 Tenn pg0256b.txt > > > 257a 36 Bell Wm. A. 65 NC pg0256b.txt > > > At one time I had this list sorted into families by the first letters in each line.it was pretty interesting...I'll work on > it > > to see what I can find this time. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Bell Family > > > father: possibly James Bell > > > mother: Lydia [Perhaps Chapman] > > > ?Marriage?: 25 Apr 1814 - Chatham County, North Carolina > > > Children: > > > Eldridge P Bell - 1824 - North Carolina > > > Bethenia Bell - 1825 - Tennessee > > > Andrew Bell - 1831 - Tennessee > > > and others ,older, I'm sure we are missing > > > [? older children born between 1814 and 1823 were moved out] > > > > > > 1850 Gibson Co., TN Census > > > LYDIA BELL ,55, F, W, NC > > > ELDRIDGE P. BELL 25, M, W, NC > > > (Bethenia would fit in here) > > > ELEANOR BELL, 21, F, W, TN > > > ANDREW BELL, 18, M, E, TN. > > > > > > That information would indicate that this family moved from NC to TN about 1832. > > > > > > GIBSON COUNTY, TENNESSEE MARRIAGES > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/tn+index+400261523892+F > > > > > > BELL, Andrew marr. YEATES, Parolle on 21-OCT-1852 > > > ************************************************************************ > > > Marriages of these families: > > > > > > John S Stubblefield to Bethenia Bell - 17 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > > > > > Eldridge P Bell to Eleanor Grissom - 30 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > > > > > Andrew Bell to Parolee Yeates(Yates) - 21 Oct 1852 - Gibson County, Tennessee ( I have another connection of Parolee > > Yeates/Yates to other families of interest to be posted later) > > > > > > Stephen Grissom to Ann Eliza (?) Grissom - 9 Mar 1841 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > > > > > Ridious Bridges to Candis Grissom - Can't Remember - Wilson County, Tennessee > > > > > > Allen Grissom to Malinda Stubblefield - 13 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee > > > > > > Willis B Grissom to Margarette Cash - 3 Oct 1854 - Gibson County, Tennessee > > > > > > Note:All three families intermarried. > > > Allen Grissom married Malinda Stubblefield. > > > Allen's sister Eleanor Grissom married Eldridge Bell. > > > Eldridge's sister Bethenia Bell married John Stubblefield. > > > (Big Circle) > > > ************************************************************************ > > > Census Records for these families > > > > > > 1850 Gibson County Dist# 14 > > > **But very interesting that they were married Wilson Co TN and moved to Gibson Co.,TN like all the rest. Keeping an eye on > this > > family to see where or if they connect someplace. > > > > Kinkaid, William J - 21 - born Tennessee > > > > Kinkaid, Polly - 24 - born Alabama (maybe 2nd marriage?) > > > > Kinkaid, Martha - 2 - born Tennessee > > > > Kinkaid, James - 3/12 - born Tennessee > > > > no mention of our Edwin Chappell - so probably not our Polly > > > (Edwin Chappell was born in 1840 and was with his Grandmother Nancy Stubblefield in Gibson Co TN by c.1852) I have often > > wondered why Edwin was with his grandmother, perhaps if Polly gave birth at a very young age (14-15 was not unheard of), but > that is > > about the same time Unknown disapeared too and maybe Polly's husband and Unknown were killed in some kind of skermish with the > > Indians or whatever????? Still looking for the Chappell family ancestry. > > > > > > 1850 Gibson County Dist# 11 > > > family 2220 > > > Bell, Eldridge P - 25 - born North Carolina > > > Bell, Eleanor - 21 - born Tennessee > > > > > > family 2221 > > > Bell, Lydia - 55 - born North Carolina > > > Bell, Andrew - 18 - born Tennessee > > > (he is listed as Andy Bell when his widow Paralee (YEATES, Parolle) applied for a Confederate Soldiers Pension) > > > > > > family 2223 > > > Stubblefield, John > > > m: Bethenia Bell > > > etc > > > > > > family 2224 > > > Stubblefield, William R > > > etc > > > > > > family 2225 > > > Stubblefield, Nancy - 45 - Tennessee > > > Stubblefield, Robert - 18 - born Alabama > > > Stubblefield, Abraham (Absolom) - 11 - born Alabama > > > > > > family 2227 > > > Grissom, Allen - 25 - born North Carolina > > > Grissom, Malinda - 20 - born Alabama (Stubblefield) > > > Grissom, Stephen - 3 - born Tennessee > > > Grissom, Nancy - 3/12 - born Tennessee > > > > > > family 2233 > > > Grissom, Stephen - 33 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > > > Grissom, Ann - 26 - born North Carolina > > > Grissom, Mary - 3 - born Tennessee > > > Grissom, Mary - 55 - born North Carolina (Allen's Mother) > > > Grissom, Willis - 16 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) > > > Grissom, Malvina - 13 - born Alabama (Allen's sister) > > > > > > 1850 Gibson County Dist 17 > > > > > > Bridges, Ridious - 28 - born Alabama (love that name) > > > Bridges, Candis - 28 - born North Carolina (she is Candis Grissom)(Allen's sister b:1821) > > > Bridges, John - 9 - born Tennessee > > > Bridges, Mary - 8 - born Tennessee > > > Bridges, Matilda - 5 - born Tennessee > > > Bridges, Nancy - 3 - born Tennessee > > > Bridges, Martha - 4/12 - born Tennessee > > > Grissum, Mary - 60 - born North Carolina > > > (This is a second elderly lady named Mary Griss*m in Gibson Co 1850 census & two children named the same, the ages the > > same????must be CT error) > > > Grissum, Willis - 16 - born Tennessee > > > Grissum, Vina - 14 - born Tennessee > > > Notice the last three are the same (usual mistakes) as enumerated with Stephen earlier. <grin> > > > ************************************************************************Stephen Grissom (Allen's brother) and family stayed > in > > TN > > > Andrew Bell (Bethenia's brother) and family stayed in TN > > > ********************************************************************** > > > 1860 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist 11 > > > > > > family 1682 (related?) > > > Grissom, John - 72 - born North Carolina > > > Grissom, Sarah - 73 - born North Carolina > > > Grissom, Nancy - 36 - born North Carolina > > > Whitlock, David - 17 - born Illinois (farm hand) > > > > > > family 1683 > > > Grissom, W.H. - 30 - born Tennessee (This could be another sibling, his age fits in between the others.) > > > Grissom, Isabella - 28 - born Tennessee > > > Grissom, John - 8 - born Tennessee (first son named John) > > > Grissom, William - 6 - born Tennessee > > > Grissom, Martha - 5 - born Tennessee > > > Grissom, Sarah - 4 - born Tennessee > > > Grissom, Elijah - 1 - born Tennessee > > > > > > family 1684 > > > Grissom, Stephen - 42 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > > > Grissom, Ann - 36 - born North Carolina > > > Grissom, Mary - 13 - born Tennessee > > > Grissom, Sarah - 9 - born Tennessee > > > Grissom, John - 5 - born Tennessee (first son named John) > > > Grissom, Vinia - 3 - born Tennessee > > > Grissom, James - 2/12 - born Tennessee > > > **************************************************** > > > 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) > > > (very close to the Stubblefields in Hopkins co., Mt Pleasant is in Titus County, just East of Hopkins Co. TX) > > > > > > family 672 > > > Grissom, Willis B - 36 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) > > > Grissom, Martha - 31 - born Alabama (Do we know who this maiden name is?) > > > Grissom, John - 14 - born Tennessee (first son named John) (first daughter named Mary) > > > Grissom, Mary - 12 - Tennessee (there is a big space between Mary 12 yr and Lucy 11 months, or a typo) > > > Grissom, Lucy M - 11/12 - born Texas (Family to TX by1869) > > > Bridges, Mary E - 14 - born Texas (b:1856 in TX) > > > Bridges, James - 12 - born Texas > > > Bridges, Alfred - 10 - born Texas > > > (why three Bridges children with this family?) > > > > > > family 771 > > > Grissom, Thomas - 53 - born North Carolina > > > (I believe he would be a brother to the rest of the Grissoms) (Very likely, b: 1817 in the 1815-1823 space) > > > Grissom, Mattie - 36 - born Tennessee > > > Grissom, Willis - 17 - b: AR (named for his brother Willis B ?) > > > Grissom, Frances - 14 - born Arkansas > > > Grissom, Emma - 13 - born Arkansas > > > Grissom, California - 10 - born Arkansas > > > Grissom, John - 7 - born Texas (Family to Texas by 1863?) > > > Grissom, Margaret - 5 - born Texas > > > Grissom, Ida - 1 - born Texas > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Pat, > > > Here is the 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists your Eldridge P. Bell with the listing of your > "Steven" > > Thomas Bell as a widower with two young children that were born in TX.( I have more questions below) > > > > > > family 772 > > > Bell, Eldridge P - 45 - born North Carolina (Bethenia's brother) > > > Bell, Eleanor - 41 - born Tennessee (Allen's sister) > > > Bell, Thomas - 24 - born Tennessee (in TX at least by 1866) > > > Bell, Liousa - 4- born Texas > > > Bell, Ella M - 7/12 - born Texas > > > would guess Thomas is a son and a widower with the two girls > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > family 876 > > > Bridges, Ridious - 56 - born Alabama > > > Bridges, Candis - 48 - born North Carolina > > > (Allen Grissoms's sister) > > > Bridges, Martha F - 18 - born Tennessee > > > Bridges, Walker W - 16 - born Tennessee > > > Bridges, Lorenzo - 14 - born Tennessee > > > Bridges, Ephriam - 10 - born Texas (moved to TX 1860ish)Bridges, Thomas - 6 - born Texas > > > Grissom, Vina - 33 - born Alabama (not married) (sister to Allen, Stephen, Candis etc) > > > ************************************************* > > > > > > 1870 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist#14 > > > > > > family 49 > > > Bell, Andy - 38 - born Tennessee (Bethenia's brother) > > > Bell, Paralee - 38 - born Tennessee (Yeates /Yates) > > > Bell, Alsa - 16 - born Tennessee > > > Bell, Mary - 14 - born Tennessee > > > Bell, Albert - 11 - born Tennessee > > > Bell, Dezie - 7 - born Tennessee > > > Bell, James - 5 - born Tennessee > > > Bell, Nancy - 2 - born Tennessee > > > Bell, Baby - 1/12 - born Tennessee > > > ********************************************** > > > > > > 1880 Gibson County Tennessee Dist 11 > > > > > > family 145 > > > Grissom, Stephen - 62 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) > > > Grissom, Ann E = 55 - born North Carolina > > > Grissom, Mary H - 32 - born Tennessee (never married) > > > Grissom, Sarah L - 29 - born Tennessee (never married) > > > Grissom, John A - 25 - born Tennessee (widower) > > > Grissom, James A - 20 - born Tennessee > > > Grissom, George W - 16 - born Tennessee > > > Grissom, Stephen - 13 - born Tennessee > > > ************************************************************************ Did we last see Allen & Malinda/Molinda > Stubblefield > > Grissom in 1850 Gibson Co., TN? That was when Malinda/Molinda's mother Nancy "C" Stubblefield gathered her daughter Martha > > Stubblefield Williams (w/ Husband William Madison Williams & children & her grandson Edwin Chappell, w/ her two youngest Robert > C. & > > Absolom Stubblefield up, and moved them to CA. Also a Nancy Y. Grissom b: 1941 TN...who later married Edwin Chappell . > > > (wish I could connect that Nancy "Y" Grissom to these Grissom families.) > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > We find Nancy's two older sons (William & John) still in Gibson County, TN in the 1860 census, so they did not make the trek > to > > CA with the rest of the Stubblefield family: > > > This file was contributed for use in the USGenWeb > > > Pages 338a - 348b > > > CENSUS YR: 1860 > > > TERRITORY: TN > > > COUNTY: Gibson > > > DIVISION: District > > > No. 14 PAGE NO: 338a > > > REFERENCE: P.O. Lynn Point > > > > > > 26 2026 2049 Stubblefield J 27 M Farmer 1,200 1,000 AL > > > (b: 12 Jun 1827 AL m: c. 1849 d: 11 Feb 1906 > > > 27 2026 2049 Stubblefield Bethan? 34 F TN > > > (b: 05 Jan 1824 NC m: c. 1849 TN d: 05 May 1905) > > > 28 2026 2049 Stubblefield Nancy 11 F TN > > > (b: 14 Oct 1849 TN M: ? d: 15 Nov 1887) > > > 29 2026 2049 Stubblefield William Andrew 9 M TN > > > (b: 15 May 1850 TN m:? d: 17 Feb 1904 > > > 30 2026 2049 Stubblefield James 8 M TN > > > (b: 1851 TN m:? d:?) > > > 31 2026 2049 Stubblefield Martha 6 F TN > > > (b: 1854 TN m:? d:?) > > > 32 2026 2049 Stubblefield Ana 3 F TN > > > (b: c 1855) m:? d:?) > > > 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield John (P) 1 M TN > > > (b: c. 1860 m:? d:?) > > > 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield, Lucricia > > > (b: c. 1862 TN m: ? d: ?) > > > **after this census in 1860 in Gibson Co TN. we find that JOHN S.STUBBLEFIELD family had moved to Texas, where they had > more > > children :(had moved to TX between 1862 & 1865) > > > > > > BETHENIA / BETTIE STUBBLEFIELD b:1865 d: 22 July 1939 STEPHEN H STUBBLEFIELD b: 11 July 1866 d: 14 Aug 1948 > > > THOMAS E. STUBBLEFIELD b: 25 Mar 1870 in Hopkins Co., Sulpher Bluff,TX > > > *********************************** > > > Pat, > > > Questions: > > > The above 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists the Eldridge P. Bell family with your "Steven" Thomas > Bell > > with two young children born in TX indicates that "Steven"Thomas Bell was married two times. > > > > > > You have listed: > > > Steven Thomas Bell, b: 11/14/1845, d: 8/12/1909 > > > Mary Francis( Fannie) Threlkeld, b: 8/19/1852, d: 2/19/1925 > > > Children > > > Charles A. Bell, b: 3/11/1873 > > > THIS IS THE FIRST CHILD OF THIS MARRIAGE > > > Which indicates that this is the second marriage of "Steven" Thomas Bell. Do you have the 1880 census for this family that > > shows the first two children that were listed in the 1870 census: > > > Bell, Liousa - b: c. 1866 TX would be 14 yrs in 1880 > > > Bell, Ella M - b: c. 1870 TX would be 10 yrs in 1880. > > > > > > Sarah E. 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Do any of you connect to the Bells from S. C. and probably AL. In particular, George Bell and Valentine Bell? ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 3:22 PM Subject: [Tngibson] Re: Bell Family This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ReB.2ACE/1423.2.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Pat, I get just as excited when I can share family information, as when I find a piece of the puzzle myself. Below I will post some information that came to me from a "distant KZN" that is a whiz in the research, and very generous. One of the things she advised me to get was a Delux Legacy 5.0 ancestry program to install all my information onto as I went.....well, I cannot tell you how IMPORTANT that is for you to do, right now, in the beginning of your research on your family. I am playing catch-up with putting my stored information onto my new Delux Legacy 5.0 program, but I am loving every minute of it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here is the work sheet for the families I mentioned to you that are related by marriage: Grissom family father: Unknown Grissom (maybe John) mother: Mary Unknown b:NC Children: Stephen Grissom - 1816 - North Carolina [Thomas Grissom could be a sibling b: 1817-18 NC?] Candis Grissom - 1821 - North Carolina Allen Grissom - 1824 - North Carolina Eleanor Grissom - 1828 - Tennessee [WH Grissom could be a sibling b: 1830 TN?] Willis B Grissom - 1833 - Alabama Malvina Grissom - 1836 - Alabama Taking in their migration, they were in Wilson Co. TN in 1847& 1848 & 1850 in Gibson Co TN ************************************************************************ It has never been proven where Nancy Clorence/Clorance Stubblefield was born 1800. some say TN, some say SC but with these families that are married into the three families coming from NC it seems to me that we might find that Nancy came from NC too. I wonder if NC had split off TN by 1800? I think so ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Someone sent me this : 1850 Gibson Co., TN census (all the Bells) Bell Alexander 5 Tenn pg 0123a.txt 137a 11 Bell Alexander 8 Tenn pg0134a.txt 284b 39 Bell Andrew 18 Ten pg0279a.txt 136b 12 Bell Ann 12 Tenn pg0134a.txt 153a 11 Bell Caroline 4 Tenn pg0145a.txt 284b 36 Bell Eldridge P. 25 NC pg0279a.txt 284b 37 Bell Eleanor 21 Ten pg0279a.txt 137a 7 Bell Elijah 35 Ala pg0134a.txt 153a 12 Bell Elinor 3 Tenn pg0145a.txt 137a 12 Bell Eliza 7 Tenn pg0134a.txt 153a 9 Bell Elizabeth 8 Tenn pg0145a.txt 239b 26 Bell Elizabeth 24 Tenn pg0234a.txt 306a 8 Bell Elizabeth 17 NC pg0301b.txt 279b 36 Bell Frances 25 Ten pg0279a.txt 136b 14 Bell George 9 Tenn pg0134a.txt 137a 9 Bell George 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt 279b 37 Bell George 21 Ten pg0279a.txt 153a 4 Bell H. M. 41 Tenn pg0145a.txt 128a 16 Bell Isabella 1 Tenn pg0123a.txt 136b 10 Bell James 42 SC pg0134a.txt 137a 10 Bell James 10 Tenn pg0134a.txt 257a 38 Bell James 33 NC pg0256b.txt 280a 10 Bell James 27 Ten pg0279a.txt 204a 16 Bell James G. 45 NC pg0200a.txt 204a 17 Bell Jane 50 NC pg0200a.txt 128a 13 Bell John 6 Tenn pg0123a.txt 153a 8 Bell John 13 Tenn pg0145a.txt 306a 7 Bell John 27 NC pg0301b.txt 206a 10 Bell John W. 23 Tenn pg0200a.txt 137a 15 Bell Jonah 4/12 Tenn pg0134a.txt 153a 13 Bell Joseph 6/12 Tenn pg0145a.txt 284b 38 Bell Lydia 55 NC pg0279a.txt 239b 28 Bell Margaret 7 Tenn pg0234a.txt 136b 13 Bell Margarett 11 Tenn pg0134a.txt 136b 16 Bell Martha 4 Tenn pg0134a.txt 137a 13 Bell Mary 5 Tenn pg0134a.txt 153a 10 Bell Mary 6 Tenn pg0145a.txt 136b 11 Bell Michal 40 Tenn pg0134a.txt 153a 5 Bell Minerva 34 Tenn pg0145a.txt 137a 8 Bell Nancy 32 NC pg0134a.txt 137a 14 Bell Neill 3 Tenn pg0134a.txt 257a 37 Bell Penelope 58 NC pg0256b.txt 279b 35 Bell Priscilla 44 NC pg0279a.txt 204a 18 Bell Rachael 28 NC pg0200a.txt 128a 15 Bell Rebecca 4 Tenn pg0123a.txt 136b 17 Bell Robert 2 Tenn pg0134a.txt 153a 6 Bell Robert 19 Tenn pg0145a.txt 257a 40 Bell Robert 17 Tenn pg0256b.txt 306a 9 Bell Robt. 3/12 Ten pg0301b.txt 136b 15 Bell Sarah 6 Tenn pg0134a.txt 239b 29 Bell Sarah 5 Tenn pg0234a.txt 280a 11 Bell Susan 18 Ten pg0279a.txt 128a 11 Bell Telitha 25 NC pg0123a.txt 239b 25 Bell Tho's F. 26 Tenn pg0234a.txt 128a 10 Bell Valentine 73 SC pg0123a.txt 279b 34 Bell Valentine 65 SC pg0279a.txt 128a 12 Bell William 8 Tenn pg0123a.txt 153a 7 Bell William 17 Tenn pg0145a.txt 239b 27 Bell William 23 Tenn pg0234a.txt 257a 39 Bell William 22 Tenn pg0256b.txt 257a 36 Bell Wm. A. 65 NC pg0256b.txt At one time I had this list sorted into families by the first letters in each line.it was pretty interesting...I'll work on it to see what I can find this time. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bell Family father: possibly James Bell mother: Lydia [Perhaps Chapman] ?Marriage?: 25 Apr 1814 - Chatham County, North Carolina Children: Eldridge P Bell - 1824 - North Carolina Bethenia Bell - 1825 - Tennessee Andrew Bell - 1831 - Tennessee and others ,older, I'm sure we are missing [? older children born between 1814 and 1823 were moved out] 1850 Gibson Co., TN Census LYDIA BELL ,55, F, W, NC ELDRIDGE P. BELL 25, M, W, NC (Bethenia would fit in here) ELEANOR BELL, 21, F, W, TN ANDREW BELL, 18, M, E, TN. That information would indicate that this family moved from NC to TN about 1832. GIBSON COUNTY, TENNESSEE MARRIAGES http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/tn+index+400261523892+F BELL, Andrew marr. YEATES, Parolle on 21-OCT-1852 ************************************************************************ Marriages of these families: John S Stubblefield to Bethenia Bell - 17 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee Eldridge P Bell to Eleanor Grissom - 30 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee Andrew Bell to Parolee Yeates(Yates) - 21 Oct 1852 - Gibson County, Tennessee ( I have another connection of Parolee Yeates/Yates to other families of interest to be posted later) Stephen Grissom to Ann Eliza (?) Grissom - 9 Mar 1841 - Wilson County, Tennessee Ridious Bridges to Candis Grissom - Can't Remember - Wilson County, Tennessee Allen Grissom to Malinda Stubblefield - 13 Jan 1848 - Wilson County, Tennessee Willis B Grissom to Margarette Cash - 3 Oct 1854 - Gibson County, Tennessee Note:All three families intermarried. Allen Grissom married Malinda Stubblefield. Allen's sister Eleanor Grissom married Eldridge Bell. Eldridge's sister Bethenia Bell married John Stubblefield. (Big Circle) ************************************************************************ Census Records for these families 1850 Gibson County Dist# 14 **But very interesting that they were married Wilson Co TN and moved to Gibson Co.,TN like all the rest. Keeping an eye on this family to see where or if they connect someplace. > Kinkaid, William J - 21 - born Tennessee > Kinkaid, Polly - 24 - born Alabama (maybe 2nd marriage?) > Kinkaid, Martha - 2 - born Tennessee > Kinkaid, James - 3/12 - born Tennessee > no mention of our Edwin Chappell - so probably not our Polly (Edwin Chappell was born in 1840 and was with his Grandmother Nancy Stubblefield in Gibson Co TN by c.1852) I have often wondered why Edwin was with his grandmother, perhaps if Polly gave birth at a very young age (14-15 was not unheard of), but that is about the same time Unknown disapeared too and maybe Polly's husband and Unknown were killed in some kind of skermish with the Indians or whatever????? Still looking for the Chappell family ancestry. 1850 Gibson County Dist# 11 family 2220 Bell, Eldridge P - 25 - born North Carolina Bell, Eleanor - 21 - born Tennessee family 2221 Bell, Lydia - 55 - born North Carolina Bell, Andrew - 18 - born Tennessee (he is listed as Andy Bell when his widow Paralee (YEATES, Parolle) applied for a Confederate Soldiers Pension) family 2223 Stubblefield, John m: Bethenia Bell etc family 2224 Stubblefield, William R etc family 2225 Stubblefield, Nancy - 45 - Tennessee Stubblefield, Robert - 18 - born Alabama Stubblefield, Abraham (Absolom) - 11 - born Alabama family 2227 Grissom, Allen - 25 - born North Carolina Grissom, Malinda - 20 - born Alabama (Stubblefield) Grissom, Stephen - 3 - born Tennessee Grissom, Nancy - 3/12 - born Tennessee family 2233 Grissom, Stephen - 33 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) Grissom, Ann - 26 - born North Carolina Grissom, Mary - 3 - born Tennessee Grissom, Mary - 55 - born North Carolina (Allen's Mother) Grissom, Willis - 16 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) Grissom, Malvina - 13 - born Alabama (Allen's sister) 1850 Gibson County Dist 17 Bridges, Ridious - 28 - born Alabama (love that name) Bridges, Candis - 28 - born North Carolina (she is Candis Grissom)(Allen's sister b:1821) Bridges, John - 9 - born Tennessee Bridges, Mary - 8 - born Tennessee Bridges, Matilda - 5 - born Tennessee Bridges, Nancy - 3 - born Tennessee Bridges, Martha - 4/12 - born Tennessee Grissum, Mary - 60 - born North Carolina (This is a second elderly lady named Mary Griss*m in Gibson Co 1850 census & two children named the same, the ages the same????must be CT error) Grissum, Willis - 16 - born Tennessee Grissum, Vina - 14 - born Tennessee Notice the last three are the same (usual mistakes) as enumerated with Stephen earlier. <grin> ************************************************************************Stephen Grissom (Allen's brother) and family stayed in TN Andrew Bell (Bethenia's brother) and family stayed in TN ********************************************************************** 1860 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist 11 family 1682 (related?) Grissom, John - 72 - born North Carolina Grissom, Sarah - 73 - born North Carolina Grissom, Nancy - 36 - born North Carolina Whitlock, David - 17 - born Illinois (farm hand) family 1683 Grissom, W.H. - 30 - born Tennessee (This could be another sibling, his age fits in between the others.) Grissom, Isabella - 28 - born Tennessee Grissom, John - 8 - born Tennessee (first son named John) Grissom, William - 6 - born Tennessee Grissom, Martha - 5 - born Tennessee Grissom, Sarah - 4 - born Tennessee Grissom, Elijah - 1 - born Tennessee family 1684 Grissom, Stephen - 42 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) Grissom, Ann - 36 - born North Carolina Grissom, Mary - 13 - born Tennessee Grissom, Sarah - 9 - born Tennessee Grissom, John - 5 - born Tennessee (first son named John) Grissom, Vinia - 3 - born Tennessee Grissom, James - 2/12 - born Tennessee **************************************************** 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) (very close to the Stubblefields in Hopkins co., Mt Pleasant is in Titus County, just East of Hopkins Co. TX) family 672 Grissom, Willis B - 36 - born Alabama (Allen's brother) Grissom, Martha - 31 - born Alabama (Do we know who this maiden name is?) Grissom, John - 14 - born Tennessee (first son named John) (first daughter named Mary) Grissom, Mary - 12 - Tennessee (there is a big space between Mary 12 yr and Lucy 11 months, or a typo) Grissom, Lucy M - 11/12 - born Texas (Family to TX by1869) Bridges, Mary E - 14 - born Texas (b:1856 in TX) Bridges, James - 12 - born Texas Bridges, Alfred - 10 - born Texas (why three Bridges children with this family?) family 771 Grissom, Thomas - 53 - born North Carolina (I believe he would be a brother to the rest of the Grissoms) (Very likely, b: 1817 in the 1815-1823 space) Grissom, Mattie - 36 - born Tennessee Grissom, Willis - 17 - b: AR (named for his brother Willis B ?) Grissom, Frances - 14 - born Arkansas Grissom, Emma - 13 - born Arkansas Grissom, California - 10 - born Arkansas Grissom, John - 7 - born Texas (Family to Texas by 1863?) Grissom, Margaret - 5 - born Texas Grissom, Ida - 1 - born Texas ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat, Here is the 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists your Eldridge P. Bell with the listing of your "Steven" Thomas Bell as a widower with two young children that were born in TX.( I have more questions below) family 772 Bell, Eldridge P - 45 - born North Carolina (Bethenia's brother) Bell, Eleanor - 41 - born Tennessee (Allen's sister) Bell, Thomas - 24 - born Tennessee (in TX at least by 1866) Bell, Liousa - 4- born Texas Bell, Ella M - 7/12 - born Texas would guess Thomas is a son and a widower with the two girls -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- family 876 Bridges, Ridious - 56 - born Alabama Bridges, Candis - 48 - born North Carolina (Allen Grissoms's sister) Bridges, Martha F - 18 - born Tennessee Bridges, Walker W - 16 - born Tennessee Bridges, Lorenzo - 14 - born Tennessee Bridges, Ephriam - 10 - born Texas (moved to TX 1860ish)Bridges, Thomas - 6 - born Texas Grissom, Vina - 33 - born Alabama (not married) (sister to Allen, Stephen, Candis etc) ************************************************* 1870 Gibson County, Tennessee Dist#14 family 49 Bell, Andy - 38 - born Tennessee (Bethenia's brother) Bell, Paralee - 38 - born Tennessee (Yeates /Yates) Bell, Alsa - 16 - born Tennessee Bell, Mary - 14 - born Tennessee Bell, Albert - 11 - born Tennessee Bell, Dezie - 7 - born Tennessee Bell, James - 5 - born Tennessee Bell, Nancy - 2 - born Tennessee Bell, Baby - 1/12 - born Tennessee ********************************************** 1880 Gibson County Tennessee Dist 11 family 145 Grissom, Stephen - 62 - born North Carolina (Allen's brother) Grissom, Ann E = 55 - born North Carolina Grissom, Mary H - 32 - born Tennessee (never married) Grissom, Sarah L - 29 - born Tennessee (never married) Grissom, John A - 25 - born Tennessee (widower) Grissom, James A - 20 - born Tennessee Grissom, George W - 16 - born Tennessee Grissom, Stephen - 13 - born Tennessee ************************************************************************ Did we last see Allen & Malinda/Molinda Stubblefield Grissom in 1850 Gibson Co., TN? That was when Malinda/Molinda's mother Nancy "C" Stubblefield gathered her daughter Martha Stubblefield Williams (w/ Husband William Madison Williams & children & her grandson Edwin Chappell, w/ her two youngest Robert C. & Absolom Stubblefield up, and moved them to CA. Also a Nancy Y. Grissom b: 1941 TN...who later married Edwin Chappell . (wish I could connect that Nancy "Y" Grissom to these Grissom families.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We find Nancy's two older sons (William & John) still in Gibson County, TN in the 1860 census, so they did not make the trek to CA with the rest of the Stubblefield family: This file was contributed for use in the USGenWeb Pages 338a - 348b CENSUS YR: 1860 TERRITORY: TN COUNTY: Gibson DIVISION: District No. 14 PAGE NO: 338a REFERENCE: P.O. Lynn Point 26 2026 2049 Stubblefield J 27 M Farmer 1,200 1,000 AL (b: 12 Jun 1827 AL m: c. 1849 d: 11 Feb 1906 27 2026 2049 Stubblefield Bethan? 34 F TN (b: 05 Jan 1824 NC m: c. 1849 TN d: 05 May 1905) 28 2026 2049 Stubblefield Nancy 11 F TN (b: 14 Oct 1849 TN M: ? d: 15 Nov 1887) 29 2026 2049 Stubblefield William Andrew 9 M TN (b: 15 May 1850 TN m:? d: 17 Feb 1904 30 2026 2049 Stubblefield James 8 M TN (b: 1851 TN m:? d:?) 31 2026 2049 Stubblefield Martha 6 F TN (b: 1854 TN m:? d:?) 32 2026 2049 Stubblefield Ana 3 F TN (b: c 1855) m:? d:?) 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield John (P) 1 M TN (b: c. 1860 m:? d:?) 33 2026 2049 Stubblefield, Lucricia (b: c. 1862 TN m: ? d: ?) **after this census in 1860 in Gibson Co TN. we find that JOHN S.STUBBLEFIELD family had moved to Texas, where they had more children :(had moved to TX between 1862 & 1865) BETHENIA / BETTIE STUBBLEFIELD b:1865 d: 22 July 1939 STEPHEN H STUBBLEFIELD b: 11 July 1866 d: 14 Aug 1948 THOMAS E. STUBBLEFIELD b: 25 Mar 1870 in Hopkins Co., Sulpher Bluff,TX *********************************** Pat, Questions: The above 1870 Titus County, Texas (Mt. Pleasant) census that lists the Eldridge P. Bell family with your "Steven" Thomas Bell with two young children born in TX indicates that "Steven"Thomas Bell was married two times. You have listed: Steven Thomas Bell, b: 11/14/1845, d: 8/12/1909 Mary Francis( Fannie) Threlkeld, b: 8/19/1852, d: 2/19/1925 Children Charles A. Bell, b: 3/11/1873 THIS IS THE FIRST CHILD OF THIS MARRIAGE Which indicates that this is the second marriage of "Steven" Thomas Bell. Do you have the 1880 census for this family that shows the first two children that were listed in the 1870 census: Bell, Liousa - b: c. 1866 TX would be 14 yrs in 1880 Bell, Ella M - b: c. 1870 TX would be 10 yrs in 1880. Sarah E. Bell, b: 1/15/1876 Eldridge Perryman Bell, b: 1/12/1877, d: 1/13/1884 James Henry Bell, b: 12/13/1881 Mary Ella Bell, b: 2/8/1886, d: 9/17/1887 Rab Leon Bell, b: 5/18/1887, d: 3/4/1953 Floy E. Bell, b: 8/9/1893 There is a cemetery in Titus County that was dedicated by the R.Bridges family, when I find that I will post it. Congratulations on having such a great start to your family research, keep in touch and let me know what you find. ==== TNGIBSON Mailing List ==== Gibson Co TN Genealogy Pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/