I'd like to make some things a little clearer on the below post. The ISP that is sponsoring the domain name for the TNGenWeb Project, US Internet, has been sponsoring TNGenWeb for a little over 2 years now. Within that 2 years they have requested very little out of us, even though we are now processing over 2000 hits a day, storing over 150 MB (closing in on 200MB) of information and delivering over 350 MB of data per day to our visitors. My ASC and myself have always tried to help the CC's in any way that we feel like it is possible. After adding the logo to the main pages for TNGenWeb and my own county site, I saw that this might be a problem for some of the CC's, so did my ASC. We felt that possibly a script could be written by her son (who is our software engineer) to get the required logos on county pages with little or no effort from the CC's. While waiting to see if this could be done several of the cc's had done their own pages and uploaded them already. When known that a county had been done, those counties were omitted from the script. So the number of double logos are not that great. When it was realized that a script could be written, it was late at night and my ASC and her son went ahead and started on getting the logos in place. They stayed up all night doing this. Before she went to bed at about 5 AM in the morning -- she wrote the cc mailing list what was happening, etc. We are sorry we couldn't notify those who had added the logos already so they could not benefit from this. No county code was tampered with except to add the logo at the bottom of the page. We have not heard any complaints from any county coordinator whose pages we have added the logo to in this fashion. However we are receiving many thanks from those coordinators who benefited from this action. This includes from one county host that would otherwise have had to manually change 800+ pages. We have received only 3 complaints so far, including the one below. One of the others is from Mary's co-host. And the other from the host that had already uploaded 167 pages and had wished we had notified him sooner. I don't know why Mary feels the USGenWeb by-laws not passing would have changed this situation, as it was done at State Level not a National one, and would not have applied in this situation. Not having any bylaws would result in the same situation. It is a State Level decision, not a National one. If I, my ASC and our software engineer are guilty of anything, I think we are guilty of caring about our hosts to the point we would go without sleep to make things easier for them. I am truly sorry that you folks had to be subjected to so called internal problems that a few feel are present within the TNGenWeb Project. Bridgett On 18 Jul 98 at 23:13, Mary Floy Katzman wrote to USGENWEB-ALL: > > A new logo for the ISP sponsoring the domain name was mandated to be > on every page. Rather than having everyone do it themselves, they had > a cgi script written to re-write the code of every CC's page on that > ISP with the logo added at the bottom. If they had asked first if the > CC's wanted them to go ahead and automatically add the logo for them, > the CC's would probably have agreed, but they didn't even give them > the courtesy of asking permission to mess with their copyrighted > pages, they just did it. > > This is an example of what could happen if the current bylaws are > passed. The current bylaws have a major flaw of not placing any > restrictions on what the Board can do to/with/for county pages. > Without any rules to the contrary, the leadership will assume it is ok > to take your county page & change the coding to make it compliant with > legitimate rules. Think my example is outrageous? It just happened > in TN. > > TN CCs have not been negative to the requirement of the Logo on the > pages housed on that ISP, but the fact that it was done without > permission of the CCs is another matter. Some of the TN CCs already > spent the time complying with the new requirement. Now they have to > go back and take off one of the two logos now on their pages. One CC > said he had 157 pages he had already done. > > The pages for Johnson County, TN were not affected by this, but this > is why I am voting NO to the current bylaws (so we can re-write them > properly). This is another reason why states should look into > autonomous non-profit incoroporation as is being done with Tennessee. > > > > > > > Mary Floy Katzman > Framingham, Massachusetts > maryfloy@mkatzman.tiac.net > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Johnson County, TN Genealogy > http://www.tiac.net/users/mkatzman/jct/johnmain.html > > List Owner of the TNJOHNSO-L mail list. To subscribe send a message > to: "majordomo@rootsquest.com" and in the message write: "subscribe > tnjohnso-l" or "subscribe tnjohnso-l-digest" Please do not use the > quotes. > > "If God doesn't call your name until your work on earth is finished, > then I'm never going to die." > > > > > > > > > > ==== USGENWEB-ALL Mailing List ==== > The USGenWeb Project is not a commercial project. ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ Bridgett Smith TNGenWeb State Coordinator http://www.tngenweb.org/