Dear Nancy and TNGenWeb Coordinators, We have redesigned the Johnson County Genealogy page and we have resigned from the TNGenWeb and the USGenWeb. What with Pam being banned from every list housed on the rootsweb server, including the TNGen-l (required for TN CCs) and TNChat lists, she has been unable to either post or receive any messages. Just to make it clear, the banned four cannot post or receive messages to ANY list on RW. That means surname or county lists. That also means, if their pages were on rootsweb (which they're not) they would not be able to FTP updated pages. I don't know if you're aware of that. As for me the power supply to my computer fried and I'm waiting for it to be fixed. Until then, I'm using my old computer and I know once again why I bought a new one. How many of you who are "list owners" of county and/or surname lists on Rootsweb are aware someone other than you can sub and unsub people without your permission or knowledge? And that you can do absolutely nothing to prevent it? But, please let me make one thing clear...we KNOW that neither Bridgett or Nancy did the unsubbing, it was done either by Brian Levrich, owner of Rootsweb, or he had someone else from Rootsweb do it. On the other hand, a couple of days after the four were banned, a statement from the Advisory Board of USGW was made that they backed Brian's actions. Again, no word, no contact, no nothing. Not even from Bridgett the TNGenWeb State Coordinator who is also on the USGW Advisory Board. Why not, Bridgett, why not?? Nancy, "tiring" is an understatement. Do you have any idea what its like to be tried in a public forum for no reason and not be able to defend yourself? That is exactly what happened to Pam, Carol Dean, Susan Cook and Teresa Lindquist. Several people, including me, have asked on the ALL list to please list the exact reasons for their banning. We received no response at all except negative responses from people who have taken it waaaay beyond anything resembling the truth! As to being with the "wrong people", I don't know what that means or what makes them the "wrong people". Unfortunately most volunteers don't know what really happened. As for the buttons on Johnson County page, they are/were meant to make fun of the whole silly situation. But I guess they can also serve as a warning to other "list owners". It can happen to them too. If anyone from TNGen web management or even SE/ME had sent one e-mail to Pam, to show an ounce of concern over her being banned from project communication, it might have been a whole lot different. The banning of the "Rootsweb 4" was for 30 days. At the end of that time, they MAY be allowed back on a case to case basis. No criteria has been made as to what they need to do to come back in good stead. They did nothing to apologize for or to retract. What other choice do Pam and I have but to resign! And so, Johnson County has resigned from the USGW/TNGenWeb project. June 1996 was when I started with TNGenWeb and I think my first upload was in July or August 1996. Pam became Co-Coordinator the following year and I bless her every day since. The URL for the pages will remain the same since none are on Rootsweb. The same goes for the Johnson County mail list. The JCT researchers will not lose. They have always been our first priority. We will continue on the same course we've been following all this time. For me its truly sad to see the political direction USGW is going. On the other hand, incorporating Tennessee should go a long way to taking power away from the top or wherever its coming from. Mary Floy and Pam Mary Floy Katzman maryfloy@mkatzman.tiac.net ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ American Local History Network (ALHN) http://www.rootsquest.com/~amhisnet Johnson County, TN Genealogy http://www.tiac.net/users/mkatzman/jct/johnmain.html List Owner of the TNJOHNSO-L mail list. To subscribe send a message to: "majordomo@rootsquest.com" and in the message write: "subscribe tnjohnso-l" or "subscribe tnjohnso-l-digest" Please do not use the quotes. To send a message to the list the address is: tnjohnso-l@rootsquest.com.