My recollection is that TNGenWeb recently had to suspend the Johnson County coordinators for intemperate and unkind statements here on TNGEN-L. George of Lincoln On 30 Jan 99 at 20:53, TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > Dear Nancy and TNGenWeb Coordinators, > > We have redesigned the Johnson County Genealogy page and we have resigned from > the TNGenWeb and the USGenWeb. What with Pam being banned from every list > housed on the rootsweb server, including the TNGen-l (required for TN CCs) and > TNChat lists, she has been unable to either post or receive any messages. > Just to make it clear, the banned four cannot post or receive messages to ANY > list on RW. That means surname or county lists. That also means, if their > pages were on rootsweb (which they're not) they would not be able to FTP > updated pages. I don't know if you're aware of that. As for me the power > supply to my computer fried and I'm waiting for it to be fixed. Until then, > I'm using my old computer and I know once again why I bought a new one. > > How many of you who are "list owners" of county and/or surname lists on > Rootsweb are aware someone other than you can sub and unsub people without > your permission or knowledge? And that you can do absolutely nothing to > prevent it? > > But, please let me make one thing clear...we KNOW that neither Bridgett or > Nancy did the unsubbing, it was done either by Brian Levrich, owner of > Rootsweb, or he had someone else from Rootsweb do it. On the other hand, a > couple of days after the four were banned, a statement from the Advisory Board > of USGW was made that they backed Brian's actions. Again, no word, no > contact, no nothing. Not even from Bridgett the TNGenWeb State Coordinator > who is also on the USGW Advisory Board. Why not, Bridgett, why not?? > > Nancy, "tiring" is an understatement. Do you have any idea what its like to > be tried in a public forum for no reason and not be able to defend yourself? > That is exactly what happened to Pam, Carol Dean, Susan Cook and Teresa > Lindquist. Several people, including me, have asked on the ALL list to please > list the exact reasons for their banning. We received no response at all > except negative responses from people who have taken it waaaay beyond anything > resembling the truth! As to being with the "wrong people", I don't know what > that means or what makes them the "wrong people". Unfortunately most > volunteers don't know what really happened. > > As for the buttons on Johnson County page, they are/were meant to make fun of > the whole silly situation. But I guess they can also serve as a warning to > other "list owners". It can happen to them too. > > If anyone from TNGen web management or even SE/ME had sent one e-mail to > Pam, to show an ounce of concern over her being banned from project > communication, it might have been a whole lot different. > > The banning of the "Rootsweb 4" was for 30 days. At the end of that time, > they MAY be allowed back on a case to case basis. No criteria has been made > as to what they need to do to come back in good stead. They did nothing to > apologize for or to retract. What other choice do Pam and I have but to > resign! And so, Johnson County has resigned from the USGW/TNGenWeb project. > June 1996 was when I started with TNGenWeb and I think my first upload was in > July or August 1996. Pam became Co-Coordinator the following year and I bless > her every day since. The URL for the pages will remain the same since none > are on Rootsweb. The same goes for the Johnson County mail list. The JCT > researchers will not lose. They have always been our first priority. We will > continue on the same course we've been following all this time. > > For me its truly sad to see the political direction USGW is going. On the > other hand, incorporating Tennessee should go a long way to taking power away > from the top or wherever its coming from. > > Mary Floy and Pam > > > Mary Floy Katzman > maryfloy@mkatzman.tiac.net