On 20 Jul 98 at 7:00, Pam Cresswell wrote: > Fellow TNGeners, > I will agree to disagree with the folks who have written in to > thank the elves. Bridgett stated on the ALL list that they > realized they could do this late Friday night, and instead of > waiting for permission, they dove right in and started adding > code to pages. I asked her why she did not wait till morning > and ask the CC's if they would like this done. She has not > answered me. I would still like an answer. > If the elves had asked first, there would be no > problem, but as they did not, I am worried they have done > something (however well meanning) at best unethical, and at > worst illegal. If no permission was given, then it was a copyright > violation. MNSHO. If you do not agree, then that is fine too. Pam, I agree that, in retrospect, it would have been better to ask. Bridgett and Nancy are very intelligent people and I am sure they also agree. However, you have stated that they are "at best unethical" which is an unfortunate accusation. You have just called two dedicated, beloved members of TNGenWeb unethical. I think you owe them an apology. You also say they committed copyright violation. That means you are saying they did something illegal. Are you a lawyer? Whether you are right or not, why not take care of this through private correspondence? And instead of dwelling on thoughts like "unethical" or "illegal" why not think of their actions in a positive fashion. That is very easy to do if you give it a try. > It is water under the bridge now. I would like to see a promise > from our TN leaders that they will ask first next time? > Pam > > Pam Cresswell > pam@cresswells.com > jcress@tfs.net > hostess for Shawnee Co., Ks > co-hostess for Johnson Co., Tn George of Lincoln. p.s. here is my "full sig" for those who haven't seen it. I use it when I get riled. *Dutiful son of Jane Warren Waller (1946-1997) *Husband, father of four, grandfather of five *Genealogist (1968-present) (thanks Mother!) *Life member of the National Genealogical Society (1972-present) *Founding SC MAGenWeb (22 Jun 1996-present) *ASC CTGenWeb (1996-present) *Founding CC Lincoln Co TN (15 Aug 1996-present) *One of the original four Archives Beatles ( July 1996) *Founding FM CT Archives (1996-present) *Founding FM MA Archives (1996-present) *Founding FM TN Archives (1996-1997) *Founding FM Lincoln Co TN (1996-present) *Founding CC Otsego Co NY (1996-1997) *Founding CC Worcester Co MA (1996-1997) *Founding CC Windham Co CT (1996-1997) *Founding CC Tolland Co CT (1996-1997) *moderator LCT-L (1996-1997) *moderator TNLINCOL-L (1997-present) *moderator GenMassachusetts-L (1998-present) *moderator CTWINDHAM-CO (1997-present) *moderator CTTOLLAND-CO (1997-present) *moderator MANSFIELD-L (1997-present) *moderator USGENWEB-ALL (1998-present) *publisher Online Lincoln Co TN Pioneers (1997-present) *census transcriber 1850 Lincoln Co TN *USGenWeb Advisory Board Member Jan 1998-present)

Oh, I also want to clear this up, I DID NOT say THEY were unethical, I said "I am worried they have done > something (however well meaning) at best unethical,...." which is completely different that saying THEY are unethical, so please do not confuse things. respectfully, Pam Pam Cresswell pam@cresswells.com jcress@tfs.net hostess for Shawnee Co., Ks co-hostess for Johnson Co., Tn -----Original Message----- From: George Waller <hbladm1@uconnvm.uconn.edu> To: TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com <TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [TNGEN-L] Update on the pixies and the elves On 20 Jul 98 at 7:00, Pam Cresswell wrote: > Fellow TNGeners, > I will agree to disagree with the folks who have written in to > thank the elves. Bridgett stated on the ALL list that they > realized they could do this late Friday night, and instead of > waiting for permission, they dove right in and started adding > code to pages. I asked her why she did not wait till morning > and ask the CC's if they would like this done. She has not > answered me. I would still like an answer. > If the elves had asked first, there would be no > problem, but as they did not, I am worried they have done > something (however well meanning) at best unethical, and at > worst illegal. If no permission was given, then it was a copyright > violation. MNSHO. If you do not agree, then that is fine too. Pam, I agree that, in retrospect, it would have been better to ask. Bridgett and Nancy are very intelligent people and I am sure they also agree. However, you have stated that they are "at best unethical" which is an unfortunate accusation. You have just called two dedicated, beloved members of TNGenWeb unethical. I think you owe them an apology. You also say they committed copyright violation. That means you are saying they did something illegal. Are you a lawyer? Whether you are right or not, why not take care of this through private correspondence? And instead of dwelling on thoughts like "unethical" or "illegal" why not think of their actions in a positive fashion. That is very easy to do if you give it a try. > It is water under the bridge now. I would like to see a promise > from our TN leaders that they will ask first next time? > Pam > > Pam Cresswell > pam@cresswells.com > jcress@tfs.net > hostess for Shawnee Co., Ks > co-hostess for Johnson Co., Tn George of Lincoln. p.s. here is my "full sig" for those who haven't seen it. I use it when I get riled. *Dutiful son of Jane Warren Waller (1946-1997) *Husband, father of four, grandfather of five *Genealogist (1968-present) (thanks Mother!) *Life member of the National Genealogical Society (1972-present) *Founding SC MAGenWeb (22 Jun 1996-present) *ASC CTGenWeb (1996-present) *Founding CC Lincoln Co TN (15 Aug 1996-present) *One of the original four Archives Beatles ( July 1996) *Founding FM CT Archives (1996-present) *Founding FM MA Archives (1996-present) *Founding FM TN Archives (1996-1997) *Founding FM Lincoln Co TN (1996-present) *Founding CC Otsego Co NY (1996-1997) *Founding CC Worcester Co MA (1996-1997) *Founding CC Windham Co CT (1996-1997) *Founding CC Tolland Co CT (1996-1997) *moderator LCT-L (1996-1997) *moderator TNLINCOL-L (1997-present) *moderator GenMassachusetts-L (1998-present) *moderator CTWINDHAM-CO (1997-present) *moderator CTTOLLAND-CO (1997-present) *moderator MANSFIELD-L (1997-present) *moderator USGENWEB-ALL (1998-present) *publisher Online Lincoln Co TN Pioneers (1997-present) *census transcriber 1850 Lincoln Co TN *USGenWeb Advisory Board Member Jan 1998-present) ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== Be sure to send your updates to this mailing list to be included on the "What's New" page.

George, please re-read this quote: > If the elves had asked first, there would be no > problem, but as they did not, I am worried they have done > something (however well meaning) at best unethical, and at > worst illegal. If no permission was given, then it was a copyright > violation. MNSHO. I said "I am worried they have ......" and farther down I said "MNSHO" , short for "my not so humble opinion" thanks for re-reading this, and I hope it clarifies my statements. respectfully, Pam Pam Cresswell pam@cresswells.com jcress@tfs.net hostess for Shawnee Co., Ks co-hostess for Johnson Co., Tn -----Original Message----- From: George Waller <hbladm1@uconnvm.uconn.edu> To: TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com <TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: pam cresswell <jcress@tfs.net> Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [TNGEN-L] Update on the pixies and the elves On 20 Jul 98 at 7:00, Pam Cresswell wrote: > Fellow TNGeners, > I will agree to disagree with the folks who have written in to > thank the elves. Bridgett stated on the ALL list that they > realized they could do this late Friday night, and instead of > waiting for permission, they dove right in and started adding > code to pages. I asked her why she did not wait till morning > and ask the CC's if they would like this done. She has not > answered me. I would still like an answer. > If the elves had asked first, there would be no > problem, but as they did not, I am worried they have done > something (however well meanning) at best unethical, and at > worst illegal. If no permission was given, then it was a copyright > violation. MNSHO. If you do not agree, then that is fine too. Pam, I agree that, in retrospect, it would have been better to ask. Bridgett and Nancy are very intelligent people and I am sure they also agree. However, you have stated that they are "at best unethical" which is an unfortunate accusation. You have just called two dedicated, beloved members of TNGenWeb unethical. I think you owe them an apology. You also say they committed copyright violation. That means you are saying they did something illegal. Are you a lawyer? Whether you are right or not, why not take care of this through private correspondence? And instead of dwelling on thoughts like "unethical" or "illegal" why not think of their actions in a positive fashion. That is very easy to do if you give it a try. > It is water under the bridge now. I would like to see a promise > from our TN leaders that they will ask first next time? > Pam > > Pam Cresswell > pam@cresswells.com > jcress@tfs.net > hostess for Shawnee Co., Ks > co-hostess for Johnson Co., Tn George of Lincoln. p.s. here is my "full sig" for those who haven't seen it. I use it when I get riled. *Dutiful son of Jane Warren Waller (1946-1997) *Husband, father of four, grandfather of five *Genealogist (1968-present) (thanks Mother!) *Life member of the National Genealogical Society (1972-present) *Founding SC MAGenWeb (22 Jun 1996-present) *ASC CTGenWeb (1996-present) *Founding CC Lincoln Co TN (15 Aug 1996-present) *One of the original four Archives Beatles ( July 1996) *Founding FM CT Archives (1996-present) *Founding FM MA Archives (1996-present) *Founding FM TN Archives (1996-1997) *Founding FM Lincoln Co TN (1996-present) *Founding CC Otsego Co NY (1996-1997) *Founding CC Worcester Co MA (1996-1997) *Founding CC Windham Co CT (1996-1997) *Founding CC Tolland Co CT (1996-1997) *moderator LCT-L (1996-1997) *moderator TNLINCOL-L (1997-present) *moderator GenMassachusetts-L (1998-present) *moderator CTWINDHAM-CO (1997-present) *moderator CTTOLLAND-CO (1997-present) *moderator MANSFIELD-L (1997-present) *moderator USGENWEB-ALL (1998-present) *publisher Online Lincoln Co TN Pioneers (1997-present) *census transcriber 1850 Lincoln Co TN *USGenWeb Advisory Board Member Jan 1998-present)

Fellow TNGeners, I will agree to disagree with the folks who have written in to thank the elves. Bridgett stated on the ALL list that they realized they could do this late Friday night, and instead of waiting for permission, they dove right in and started adding code to pages. I asked her why she did not wait till morning and ask the CC's if they would like this done. She has not answered me. I would still like an answer. If the elves had asked first, there would be no problem, but as they did not, I am worried they have done something (however well meanning) at best unethical, and at worst illegal. If no permission was given, then it was a copyright violation. MNSHO. If you do not agree, then that is fine too. It is water under the bridge now. I would like to see a promise from our TN leaders that they will ask first next time? Pam Pam Cresswell pam@cresswells.com jcress@tfs.net hostess for Shawnee Co., Ks co-hostess for Johnson Co., Tn

I for one am extremely delighted that Nancy and her son did the work on the logos. I am very busy with my pages now and didn't need the extra work. As for my feelings about my copyrighted pages, the copyrights are there to protect against anyone making a monetary gain from them. I know that Nancy, Bridgett or her son do not ever plan to make money from this project and I have no problem whatsoever with them adding a script and making my life easier. Keep up the good work you guys! -- Jackie Robinson Rogersville, TN 37857 *************************************************************************** TNGenWeb Cocke County, http://www.rootsweb.com/~tncocke/Index.html TNGenWeb Hawkins County, http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnhawkin/index.html TNGenWeb "Abstracts from TN Newspapers http://www.tngenweb.org/newspaper/ Guthrie Homepage http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/6501 Mowery Homepage http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/jamestown/47/

Hello Everyone - I just got back from my latest (almost biweekly, sometimes less) visit to the great state of Tennessee. So, I'm slowly picking my way through the various places that I filter my email to... I, (for one) am glad that the USIT logo thingy was updated across all of the files/pages hosted by TNGenWeb. (Yes, I had *not* done mine yet, so 'naturally' I would think that it's OK. Also, I do plan on 'fixing up' all of my pages to add to the work already done). All of us have options regarding our association with TNGenWeb and 'hosting issues'. I think that a lot of consideration went into the decision about how to ensure 'USIT' compliance(in order to keep the 'for free' service(I guess)). For what it's worth, I also maintain a site with KYGenWeb. At this time, they promote an almost exclusive reliance on RootsWeb. Ya' gotta' remember that nothing is for 'free'. And I hope that a lot of consideration is made on your part regarding how you 'feel' about the effort of Jim [Coles?] to (potentially) save most of us a lot of work. I hope that some of the ideas presented above will help TNGenWeb in some small way. DRRowland ******* Hancock - TNGenWeb Morgan - TNGenWeb Clinton - KYGenWeb ******* > -----Original Message----- > From: Nancy Cole [mailto:ncole@coffey.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 1998 10:39 AM > To: TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TNGEN-L] Update on the pixies and the elves > > > Hi Folks, > > We only got through Knox county, going alphabetically before the ftp > server began to creep along and we began to slump into our respective > keyboards. We will be working on it again tonight. > > Two things: > > 1. Do not add logos to your page today, unless you really really want > to... > > 2. Give me a holler if you have already done your county, so we don't > redo it. I had a list yesterday but may have missed someone who > recently made the changes. > > > > Nancy > ncole@coffey.com > > Assistant TNGenweb Coordinator > > > ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== > > > All URL's back to USGenWeb should read: > http://www.usgenweb.org > -- or -- > http://www.usgenweb.net >

Good Morning everyone, Sometime this morning, probably in about 2 hours from now (about 7:35 AM PDT) -- I will be going off line for 2 days. My husband and I have a chance to get away from it all at no cost to us and we are getting out of Dodge. If you need anything done by me before say 10:00 AM PDT, you need to get the message to me. If you need something after that time please contact Nancy (ncole@coffey.com) or your regional coordinator. You should know who they are, if not the list is located at http://www.tngenweb.org/adoptco/regional.htm. Will be back online Wednesday. Bridgett ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ Bridgett Smith TNGenWeb State Coordinator http://www.tngenweb.org/

Updated marriage records, queries, additions to Civil War site. Jan cc-Stewart Co.

Thank you, thank you. You are so smart! I really appreciate all you do. Judy Phillips Franklin County Nancy Cole wrote: > > Hi y'all, > > The pixies and elves have been busy. >

For folks interested in Wilsons, Slacks, Meltons.. Here's some photos online cya later Sam http://www.keepsake-photos.com/Sam_Sneed_Family_Genealogy.htm

------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:30:19 +0000 From: Linda Russell Lewis <cityslic@ix.netcom.com> Organization: USGenWeb Archives, VAGenWeb Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Please Distribute This To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Reply-to: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Some county coordinators have not seen this message. Linda Return-Path: <STATE-COORD-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from fp-1.rootsweb.com (fp-1.rootsweb.com [207.113.233.233]) by ixmail3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.7-s-4/8.8.7/(NETCOM v1.01)) with ESMTP id KAA21969; ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by fp-1.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25586; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35A74570.6B5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 10:58:56 +0000 From: Linda Russell Lewis <cityslic@ix.netcom.com> Organization: USGenWeb Archives, VAGenWeb X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NC320 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: state-coord-l@rootsweb.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Archives FTP permission problem Resent-Message-ID: <"8NZ_j.A.tOG.Yc6p1"@fp-1.rootsweb.com> To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1847 X-Loop: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: STATE-COORD-L-request@rootsweb.com Please share with your county coordinators. Those county coordinators that handle their own county directory of the Archives might be having a problem accessing the archives_ftp and archives_html directory right now. That's because there was a security problem, and we are currently working on it. In the meantime, the state Archives file managers/archivists have been asked to provide to me a list of those who should have access to county directories for their state. Dale Schneider will then set the "permissions" appropriately. Thanks, Linda National Coordinator Campaign Message Board: http://venus.beseen.com/boardroom/r/16551/ --------------66411AE1264-- ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ Bridgett Smith TNGenWeb State Coordinator http://www.tngenweb.org/

Hi, All the pages with counters should once again be working. Let me know if there are any problems. Nancy

Hello everybody Updates to the Anderson County page are as follows All these items are linked under the Briceville Page An article by Irene Humphrey Bartholomew (and is linked to the family page) Remembering by Gene White Folk songs sung by miners Coal Creek Mining Company Coal Creek War White family (and is linked to the family page) As usual, my sister helps me by typing these articles and sending them to me.. Many thanks go to her. Brenda Foster Anderson Co TnGenWeb Site http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/4916 Farmer Genealogy Site http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/6649 Foster Genealogy Site http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/3599

On 18 Jul 98 at 7:27, Fred Smoot wrote: > Hi Eddy and all, > > I need a little more information on this issue. Isn't Rootsweb a > privately held company that donates the server space, as opposed to > being a "nonprofit" company? > > I have little problem in sending $12 to rootsweb but I would prefer to > send a little more -- *but* have the donation as a tax deduction. > > I recently read an old archived letter re-sent to USGEN-ALL-L where > "rootsweb" claimed it was too costly to become a "nonprofit." > > Perhaps you can tell me if rootsweb now qualifies under IRS code 501c. Fred, are you asking this of Eddy or of all of the county volunteers? If the latter, I would confess complete ignorance of the IRS code. In an case, what are you getting at? Are you suggesting we not offer assistance to Rootsweb? If so, I can't go along with that suggestions since the Lincoln Co TN webpage is on Rootsweb and I feel personally obliged to contribute to my benefactor. George of Lincoln > Fred Smoot > > > Eddy G. Clark wrote: > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Just had a "neuron spasm" and thought I'd bounce this off the folks on > > this list first. Many TNGenWeb counties (if not all of them) benefit > > from the free use of Rootsweb resources. The only income of Rootsweb is > > donations. What would be wrong if, once a year, say September, we had a > > donation drive for Rootsweb. We could ask for volunteered donations of > > $1 or $2 to Rootsweb to help provide the on-line genealogical community > > with better services and resources. No arm twisting and no name taking. > > > > This is just an idea so please don't come back and "byte" my head off. > > I just figured Tennessee could take the lead in this effort to help out > > a great group of folks who help us out. > > > > Take care everyone, > > > > -- > > Eddy G. Clark > > Gibson County Coordinator > > TNGenWeb ( http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/ ) > > Join TNGibson-L: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson/tngibson_l.htm > > > > ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== > > > > Be sure to send your updates to this mailing list to be > > included on the "What's New" page. > > > ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== > > All URL's back to USGenWeb should read: > http://www.usgenweb.org > -- or -- > http://www.usgenweb.net >

Hmmm, I was wondering if the pixies and elves could run that program on the .org changes that need to be made??? You could practice on Humphreys County to see if it works! GRIN! Just want to say thank you for the time you have saved me! Now I can do a little research on my own family tree! Thanks again. Alisa ______________________Searching and Searching___________________________________ I am searching for the parents of Elder James McKeel bn: 1802 Beaufort NC - died 1879 Calloway KY and for the parents of Dorcas Walker bn: 1800 Beaufort (?) NC died 1846 Snow Creek Maury TN. Any help will be appreciated.

At 02:47 PM 7/18/98 +0000, Bridgett Smith wrote: > >So if anyone has a problem with the script being run on their county >to get the required logo on it, please let us know and we'll leave it >alone. And our apologies to those that have already been done, but >wished we had not done so -- and to those that were so very efficient >that did their own pages before we had a chance to figure out that it >could even be done. One question here please: For those with their pages on USIT, won't they need to download the 'new updated' pages so that when they make corrections/changes to their pages the new pages won't overwrite these fixed ones?

Hi Tim, > One question here please: For those with their pages on USIT, won't they > need to download the 'new updated' pages so that when they make > corrections/changes to their pages the new pages won't overwrite these > fixed ones? Yes but one at a time as they work on things, not all at once. Some pages are never downloaded like completed census reports and archived queries, but all were required to have the logo. .Some TNGenWeb county hosts on usit have 30, 100 up to 800+ pages....> > Nancy

Hi y'all, With the exeception of those efficient folks who had already done their pages and those that preferred to do their own, Jim has downloaded, applied the required logo and uploaded TWO THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED pages, which represents days, perhaps weeks of work that y'all don't have to do. Hopefully this effort saves time that we all can use to continue to make TNGenweb a wonderful place for our visitors. We checked pages as we went along and hopefully did not double up on any pages that had already been done, even if you hadn't notified me. Some people are not using </body> tags. If you are not using them, your pages may have been missed as this is the marker used for placing the logos. All original pages are backed up on Jim'sservers in case of any problems. Some folks will have 2 usit logos the old one and the new one on their main pages, maybe 30 or so of the 2400....your RC or I will be happy to reload these for you. The counters were crunched in the process of changing permission, but will be operative within a couple of hours. Nancy ncole@coffey.com Assistant TNGenweb Coordinator

I vote "yes" on the question of establishing TNGenWeb as a non-profit corporation. I feel a bit sheepish as I cast my vote because although I have given some amount of time to considering this option, I'm sure that not all advantages/disadvantages have occurred to me. Although I could become a more informed voter by subscribing to the TNChat list, the tardiness of my reply to this straw vote demonstrates my severe shortage of "free" time. I choose to spend my meager "free" time resources on genealogy, but ya'll move ahead with my blessings. David Taylor Henderson County

I'd like to make some things a little clearer on the below post. The ISP that is sponsoring the domain name for the TNGenWeb Project, US Internet, has been sponsoring TNGenWeb for a little over 2 years now. Within that 2 years they have requested very little out of us, even though we are now processing over 2000 hits a day, storing over 150 MB (closing in on 200MB) of information and delivering over 350 MB of data per day to our visitors. My ASC and myself have always tried to help the CC's in any way that we feel like it is possible. After adding the logo to the main pages for TNGenWeb and my own county site, I saw that this might be a problem for some of the CC's, so did my ASC. We felt that possibly a script could be written by her son (who is our software engineer) to get the required logos on county pages with little or no effort from the CC's. While waiting to see if this could be done several of the cc's had done their own pages and uploaded them already. When known that a county had been done, those counties were omitted from the script. So the number of double logos are not that great. When it was realized that a script could be written, it was late at night and my ASC and her son went ahead and started on getting the logos in place. They stayed up all night doing this. Before she went to bed at about 5 AM in the morning -- she wrote the cc mailing list what was happening, etc. We are sorry we couldn't notify those who had added the logos already so they could not benefit from this. No county code was tampered with except to add the logo at the bottom of the page. We have not heard any complaints from any county coordinator whose pages we have added the logo to in this fashion. However we are receiving many thanks from those coordinators who benefited from this action. This includes from one county host that would otherwise have had to manually change 800+ pages. We have received only 3 complaints so far, including the one below. One of the others is from Mary's co-host. And the other from the host that had already uploaded 167 pages and had wished we had notified him sooner. I don't know why Mary feels the USGenWeb by-laws not passing would have changed this situation, as it was done at State Level not a National one, and would not have applied in this situation. Not having any bylaws would result in the same situation. It is a State Level decision, not a National one. If I, my ASC and our software engineer are guilty of anything, I think we are guilty of caring about our hosts to the point we would go without sleep to make things easier for them. I am truly sorry that you folks had to be subjected to so called internal problems that a few feel are present within the TNGenWeb Project. Bridgett On 18 Jul 98 at 23:13, Mary Floy Katzman wrote to USGENWEB-ALL: > > A new logo for the ISP sponsoring the domain name was mandated to be > on every page. Rather than having everyone do it themselves, they had > a cgi script written to re-write the code of every CC's page on that > ISP with the logo added at the bottom. If they had asked first if the > CC's wanted them to go ahead and automatically add the logo for them, > the CC's would probably have agreed, but they didn't even give them > the courtesy of asking permission to mess with their copyrighted > pages, they just did it. > > This is an example of what could happen if the current bylaws are > passed. The current bylaws have a major flaw of not placing any > restrictions on what the Board can do to/with/for county pages. > Without any rules to the contrary, the leadership will assume it is ok > to take your county page & change the coding to make it compliant with > legitimate rules. Think my example is outrageous? It just happened > in TN. > > TN CCs have not been negative to the requirement of the Logo on the > pages housed on that ISP, but the fact that it was done without > permission of the CCs is another matter. Some of the TN CCs already > spent the time complying with the new requirement. Now they have to > go back and take off one of the two logos now on their pages. One CC > said he had 157 pages he had already done. > > The pages for Johnson County, TN were not affected by this, but this > is why I am voting NO to the current bylaws (so we can re-write them > properly). This is another reason why states should look into > autonomous non-profit incoroporation as is being done with Tennessee. > > > > > > > Mary Floy Katzman > Framingham, Massachusetts > maryfloy@mkatzman.tiac.net > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Johnson County, TN Genealogy > http://www.tiac.net/users/mkatzman/jct/johnmain.html > > List Owner of the TNJOHNSO-L mail list. To subscribe send a message > to: "majordomo@rootsquest.com" and in the message write: "subscribe > tnjohnso-l" or "subscribe tnjohnso-l-digest" Please do not use the > quotes. > > "If God doesn't call your name until your work on earth is finished, > then I'm never going to die." > > > > > > > > > > ==== USGENWEB-ALL Mailing List ==== > The USGenWeb Project is not a commercial project. ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ Bridgett Smith TNGenWeb State Coordinator http://www.tngenweb.org/