Jim, Bridgett etal, I didn't vote. My life is in chaos and I didn't get a ballot --- or if I did, I didn't recognize it. As one Powell to another --- congratulations and you have my support Jane Powell. -----Original Message----- From: Bridgett Smith <bascs@snark.wizard.com> To: TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com <TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 7:38 PM Subject: [TNGEN-L] (Fwd) Thank You >From your new representative with the USGenWeb Advisory Board - - he, along with Yvonne, are your representatives. Bridgett ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 15:39:34 -0500 From: jpowelljr <jpowelljr@worldnet.att.net> To: Bridgett Smith <tnsc@tngenweb.org> Subject: Thank You Hi Bridgett... I would appreciate it, if you would share this with your fellow TNGenWeb Volunteers... Thanks in Advance, Jim Hi Fellow Volunteers... I want to thank "everyone" who voted in this election. I also want to commend the SE/MA Region for posting more votes than any other Region. And those of you who didn't vote, I would really like to know "why you didn't vote?" I stand here among some of the most giving people in the world, shoulder to shoulder, none above the rest. Your concerns are my concerns, your fears are my fears for I represent "you". How can I represent you if I don't hear from you? Obviously I can't. So let me hear from you. When you have a concern, throw it at me. If you are totally content with things as they are, I need to hear that too. Don't be strangers, step up and at least say "hi" A few other comments... Next time you feel like sending a "scathing" post to a list, send it to me. I won't take it personally even if you mean it that way. Maybe we can find some common ground. I always follow the rules even if I do not believe in them. So there will be no "leaks" from the Board List by me, but I will do my best to keep you informed. I will work within the system to make the process more open. But I will not allow my actions to create chaos or division. 100 votes in a region the size of ours is not a mandate. So I still need to hear from you. Keep an eye on me... Be informed... On any issues that you believe in, pro or con, let me know. I will do my best to represent "you". I believe in "YOU", all of you and I thank you for all you have done to make Free Genealogical Resources on the Internet a reality. I hope that I can live up to your and my expectations as your representative. Sincerely, Jim Powell Jr County Coordinator Henderson Co., KY Gilchrist Co., FL Alachua Co., FL jpowelljr@worldnet.att.net ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== Don't forget to visit TNGenWeb's Bulletin Board http://pluto.beseen.com/boardroom/d/19731/ Help the folks out if you can, but remember to answer the query so it can be seen on line.

As in the case with Yvonne and when Holly was the cc Rep, I will be subscribing Jim Powell to our mailing list. Bridgett ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ Bridgett Smith TNGenWeb State Coordinator http://www.tngenweb.org/

Here is one to share: To: javan@paonline.com Subject: Hicks Hi, I came across the name Hicks on the internet and me being a Hicks before I married was wondering why? +_+_+_+_+_+_+_ Mike

>From your new representative with the USGenWeb Advisory Board - - he, along with Yvonne, are your representatives. Bridgett ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 15:39:34 -0500 From: jpowelljr <jpowelljr@worldnet.att.net> To: Bridgett Smith <tnsc@tngenweb.org> Subject: Thank You Hi Bridgett... I would appreciate it, if you would share this with your fellow TNGenWeb Volunteers... Thanks in Advance, Jim Hi Fellow Volunteers... I want to thank "everyone" who voted in this election. I also want to commend the SE/MA Region for posting more votes than any other Region. And those of you who didn't vote, I would really like to know "why you didn't vote?" I stand here among some of the most giving people in the world, shoulder to shoulder, none above the rest. Your concerns are my concerns, your fears are my fears for I represent "you". How can I represent you if I don't hear from you? Obviously I can't. So let me hear from you. When you have a concern, throw it at me. If you are totally content with things as they are, I need to hear that too. Don't be strangers, step up and at least say "hi" A few other comments... Next time you feel like sending a "scathing" post to a list, send it to me. I won't take it personally even if you mean it that way. Maybe we can find some common ground. I always follow the rules even if I do not believe in them. So there will be no "leaks" from the Board List by me, but I will do my best to keep you informed. I will work within the system to make the process more open. But I will not allow my actions to create chaos or division. 100 votes in a region the size of ours is not a mandate. So I still need to hear from you. Keep an eye on me... Be informed... On any issues that you believe in, pro or con, let me know. I will do my best to represent "you". I believe in "YOU", all of you and I thank you for all you have done to make Free Genealogical Resources on the Internet a reality. I hope that I can live up to your and my expectations as your representative. Sincerely, Jim Powell Jr County Coordinator Henderson Co., KY Gilchrist Co., FL Alachua Co., FL jpowelljr@worldnet.att.net

Below is a simple page with links to images of the two maps at the "Four Horsemen" exhibit at the East Tennessee Historical Society Museum (http://www.east-tennessee-history.org/) I mentioned in the previous posting. http://user.icx.net/~reevesca/horsemen.htm -------------------------------------------+--------------------------------- Charles A. Reeves, Jr. | Phone: (423) 966-5768 Cartography and Technical Illustration | E-mail: 10812 Dineen Drive | reevesca@ix.netcom.com Knoxville, TN 37922-1809 | Home Page: | http://user.icx.net/~reevesca -------------------------------------------+--------------------------------- ��

Hi y'all .... I'm sorry to have to change this URL again for Fayette Co., etc, but ....please update your links: old#1: http://home.mem.net/~rac7253/fayette/index.html (REALLY OLD) old#2: http://www.wdbj.net/fayette/index.html new: http://www.wdbj.net/~wdbj/fayette/index.html (the final change, I HOPE!) Also -- if you have links to the Birth Year Calculator, please change them: old#1: http://home.mem.net/~rac7253/gen/cenindx.htm (REALLY OLD) old#2: http://www.wdbj.net/gen/cenindx.htm new: http://www.wdbj.net/~wdbj/gen/birthyear/cenindx.html "In Praise of Old Age [Grandma's Obits}" is still online, but is getting a major rehaul, so don't try to re-link to it just yet <g>: new: http://www.wdbj.net/~wdbj/gen/obits/obitindx.html There's still some broken links and I'm working my heart out to get 'em fixed -- if you find any, please let me know. Sorry for any inconvenience y'all -- Rose-Anne CC - Fayette Co.

Results of the National Elections. Our own Tim Stowell is now National Coordinator, and also State Coordinator for GAGenWeb. Congratulations. Bridgett ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date forwarded: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:00:33 -0800 (PST) From: "Kay Mason" <kmfkm@ptw.com> Date sent: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:06:50 -0800 Send reply to: kmfkm@ptw.com Priority: normal Subject: [STATE-COORD-L] Election Results To: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com Forwarded by: STATE-COORD-L@rootsweb.com National Coordinator results - 468 votes 140 Beth E. Wills 277 Tim Stowell 31 Kevin Fraley Northwest/Plains County Coordinator Rep results - 97 votes 27 Richard Harrison 50 Lynn Watermann 15 Margot Hill Northeast/North Central County Coordinator Rep results - 130 votes 41 David Young 38 Ed Book 44 Bonnie McVicar-Briggs Northwest/Plains State Coordinator Rep results - 13 votes 13 William "Bill" Oliver Southwest/South Central County Coordinator Rep results - 130 votes 32 Kathy Heidel 26 Bobby Edwards 70 Megan Zurawicz Southeast/Mid-Atlantic County Coordinator Rep results - 183 votes 71 Shari Handley 100 Jim Powell Georgia State Coordinator results - 32 votes 32 Tim Stowell Kay The Official results of the USGenWeb 1999 Special Election are posted at: http://www.ptw.com/~kmfkm/results.html USGenWeb was indeed fortunate to have such a well qualified group of candidates. And we appreciate their willingness to run for USGenWeb offices, and thank all of them. National Coordinator results - 468 votes 140 Beth E. Wills 277 Tim Stowell 31 Kevin Fraley Northwest/Plains County Coordinator Rep results - 97 votes 27 Richard Harrison 50 Lynn Watermann 15 Margot Hill Northeast/North Central County Coordinator Rep results - 130 votes 41 David Young 38 Ed Book 44 Bonnie McVicar-Briggs Northwest/Plains State Coordinator Rep results - 13 votes 13 William "Bill" Oliver Southwest/South Central County Coordinator Rep results - 130 votes 32 Kathy Heidel 26 Bobby Edwards 70 Megan Zurawicz Southeast/Mid-Atlantic County Coordinator Rep results - 183 votes 71 Shari Handley 100 Jim Powell Georgia State Coordinator results - 32 votes 32 Tim Stowell Thank you, Kay Mason USGenWeb Census Project http://www.usgenweb.org/census/ http://www.usgenweb.com/census http://www.usgenweb.net/census/

I would like to take a minute to congratulate one of our own. The host of Knox County, Shane Rhyne, for making it on the local morning news. About 6:50 this morning I was laying in bed flipping channels debating the virtues of getting up and starting a new day. Then an article on the channel 10 morning news caught my eye and interest. It was about a new exhibit I believe called "The Four Horsemen". It was about four local Tennessee men who left to fight for the Union during the Civil War. Shane has a collection of their belongings on display. And guess who was telling us about it? Shane himself right there on TV. I will say that it was a very interesting looking exhibit, and as Seinfeld says "A definite must see". I'll probably stop by and have a look. I must ask Shane though on his graphic of dark blue Tennessee Counties that sided with the Union, what was that one county right in the middle that was shaded the opposite color? I usually only stop on the local morning news long enough to make fun of whatever topic they present...How to get rid of toe fungus...How to create a festive pinata...or whatever other topic they hope to win an award with, but this morning was very interesting. Way to go Shane! If you're anywhere near Knoxville, try to get by and see the exhibit. Chip Union County TnGenWeb

Sorry folks, Running a little late today. Here is this week's list of queries which had invalid e-mail addresses. Some are easy to figure out some are not. Unless you just updated queries, they should be in your inbox. Benton ------ DAREDOTY@webtv Campbell -------- kbd@bright.com Cherokee Nation --------------- ndcherry@compuserve.commyicq29660316 Decatur ------- marymac@arn.net.com Dickson ------- www.steppingstones@crafton.net georgew@magicnet.net Giles ----- JWall98638@AOL.com Jackson ------- sinatra@rcmi.com McMinn ------ munchkin@cyber.net Montgomery ---------- DAREDOTY@webtv Perry ----- marymac@arn.net.com marymac@arn.net.com marymac@arn.net.com Putnam ------ birddog@webmail.bellsouth.com Sullivan -------- www.bbbschilling@mindspring.com Trousdale --------- DENEISEC@HOTMAIL Washington ---------- www.bbbschilling@mindspring.com White ----- bama@ptdprolog.ney Nancy

Hello Friends, Here are the newest additions and modifications to the Sumner page: Cemetery List Newton Cemetery Listings - NEW Court Records Lawsuits (Loose Records Transcriptions) - NEW Family Album - bios Robert Ellis - NEW Lane Family - NEW Narrative of John Phleps - NEW - In four parts Family Album - Photos Lizzie Riggsbee - NEW Riggsbee Descendants - NEW Marriage Records -- One date correction to the marriage of Anthony, Joseph to Rankins, Frances Published Resouces relating to Sumner Co. TN - UPDATED Tennessee Links - UPDATED Have a fantastic week! Thanks for all the contributions! Danene and Diane

This was sent to the TNGreene List -- I thought some of you might be interested in this information. The person posting has no further info, and all I have is this post. I don't know if there is more to this or not. Bridgett ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date forwarded: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:08:16 -0800 (PST) Date sent: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:21:59 -0500 From: John Warren <jwarren2@nycap.rr.com> Subject: [TNGREENE-L] Early Traders 1750-54 To: TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Forwarded by: TNGREENE-L@rootsweb.com Folks, I thought I would forward this great work that was posted on the longhunters List by Linda EATON <LEATON1@WEBER.EDU> Her particular interest is in Indian traders, who often had Indian families. She put together this Carolina list, derived from William McDowell's Colonial Records of South Carolina: Documents Relating to Indian Affairs 1750-1754. Please don't contact me for more info... I have none. Best, John Warren Licensed Traders to the Cherokee from Carolina (1750-1754): James Adair The Augusta Company James Baldridge Charles Banks William Bates James and Thomas Beamer Samuel Benn Robert Bunning John Butler Cornelius Daugherty Anthony Dean David Dowey John Downing John Elliott Robert Emory Robert Goudy Ludowick Grant (first name not given) Haines John Hatton John Hook Bernard Hughs Bob and John Kelly Anthony L'antignac John McCord David McDaniel David McDonald William McDowel James Mackie William McTeer James Maxwell James May Daniel Murphy Joseph Oliver Bryan Sallamon Abraham Smith Richard Smith John Williams Licensed Traders to the Creeks from Carolina 1750-54: Ephraim Alexander the Augusta Company Isaac Barksdale (first name unknown) Brown Patrick Brown Rae Brown and Company Nicholas Chinery Daniel Clark John Coller (first name unknown) Cossens Samuel Elsinore John Eycott (first name unknown) Fitz Stephen Forrest George Galphin James Hewitt George Johnston John Kennard John Ladson (first name unknown) McCay Lachland McGillvery George McKay Lachlan Mackintosh Alexander McQueen Timothy Millin (first name unknown) Nowley Moses Nunes John Pettycrew John Rae Peter Randle Walter Rode Acton Rowley William Sludders John Spencer Joseph Wright Traders to the Savannahs, Carolina, 1750-54: Enoch Anderson Richard Anderson William Anderson John Anderson (unknown) McKinnie Traders to the Catawbas: Robert Steel Robert Tool Mathew Toole Carolina traders to the Chickasaw, 1750-54 John Buckles John Campbell Cambell and Maccartan Jeromy Courtonne Courtonne and Brown John Highrider Robert Vaughan Carolina traders to the Choctaw, 1750-54 John Buckles John Nellson Mentioned by the records McDowell was working with as interpreters to various Indian groups but not as traders (1750-1754): Mary Bosomworth (a Creek woman married to a colonist) Brannan Edward Broadway Robert Bunning James Gaddes James Germany Mr. Kelloch Joseph O'Connor Aaron Stevens Samuel Thomas William Thompson Wiggan ==== TNGREENE Mailing List ==== Don't forget to submit transcriptions of Wills, Deeds, and Family Bible pages. Check out the Greene County Research Helps page for details: http://www.tngenweb.org/greene/greehelp.htm

Good Afternoon, Just wanted the DeKalb County researchers to know that I have just uploaded two new Issues of "The Liberty Herald". Athol ********************************************************************** Athol K. Foster Coordinator for DeKalb Co., Tn. TNGENWEB <http://www.tngenweb.org/dekalb/> My Home Page: "Foster's in DeKalb County, Tennessee" <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/3627>

The following Civil War Military Units have been uploaded: Unit: CAPTAIN OSBORNE'S SCOUTS URL: http://www.tngenweb.org/civilwar/csaosborne.html Counties Mentioned: Hamilton Unit: CAPTAIN B. L. PHILLIPS' COMPANY INDEPENDENT SCOUTS URL: http://www.tngenweb.org/civilwar/csaphill.html Counties Mentioned: Humphreys Unit: CAPTAIN T. W. PRESTON'S COMPANY: "THE MEMPHIS GREYS" URL: http://www.tngenweb.org/civilwar/csagrey.html Counties Mentioned: None Unit: SNOW'S SCOUTS, CAPTAIN WILLIAM SNOW URL: http://www.tngenweb.org/civilwar/csasnow.html Counties Mentioned: Hamilton Unit: CAPTAIN BENJAMIN E. SPENCER'S COMPANY OF VOLUNTEERS URL: http://www.tngenweb.org/civilwar/csaspencer.html Counties Mentioned: Lincoln Unit: JEREMIAH C. STONE'S CO. "A", LYON'S TENNESSEE CAVALRY URL: http://www.tngenweb.org/civilwar/csastone.html Counties Mentioned: None Unit: CAPTAIN J. R. WILLIAMS' TENNESSEE CAVALRY COMPANY URL: http://www.tngenweb.org/civilwar/csawill.html Counties Mentioned: Houston, Stewart, Benton, and Henry Unit: CAPTAIN THOMAS G. WOODWARD'S TENNESSEE CAVALRY COMPANY URL: http://www.tngenweb.org/civilwar/csawood.html Counties Mentioned: Sumner, Montgomery Unit: ALLISON'S TENNESSEE CAVALRY SQUADRON URL: http://www.tngenweb.org/civilwar/csaallison.html Counties Mentioned: Dekalb Unit: HARDY'S TENNESSEE CAVALRY SQUADRON URL: http://www.tngenweb.org/civilwar/csahardy.html Counties Mentioned: Knox

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Chip, I think you are right. One of my jobs at work is email administration, and the spammers are so tricky that we should never believe where they claim to be sending from. AOL has been helpful to me when dealing with spammers. George of Lincoln On 30 Jan 99 at 21:56, TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > Believe it or not I am going to defend AOL. I can't believe I'm doing this. > Most of those dirty e-mails and commercial spam we get from AOL addresses are > forged. If you are an AOL subscriber and get the full header you can find > where they actually come from. It's buried deep in the header but if you read > far enough it's usually hotmail, juno or something. > > I might also suggest that when you get them from an AOL address, highlight the > entire e-mail and forward it to these two addresses: > > tosemail1@aol.com > tosspam@aol.com > > AOL is very interested in stopping these people and are prosecuting them very > often. Sending it to abuse@aol.com gets you a computer generated reply, and > I've wondered if anyone actually reads them. > > Chip > Union County TnGenWeb > > > ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to visit TNGenWeb's Bulletin Board > http://pluto.beseen.com/boardroom/d/19731/ > Help the folks out if you can, but remember to answer > the query so it can be seen on line. >

Thanks Jane. ;^) Fred >>>> Jane Powell wrote: > > Get this crap off the required mail list. > Jane > -----Original Message----- > From: George Waller <hbladm1@uconnvm.uconn.edu> > To: TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com <TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 6:59 PM > Subject: Re: [TNGEN-L] I apologize (this has to deal with politics) Reply > > Fred, > First of all, I will give you a big hug... this is the latest custom on > USGenWeb-ALL and reduces some of the tensions there. > > Now Fred, it was you who made the claim *here* on TNGEN-L that > TNGenWeb is technically separate from USGenWeb. That is a blatant > political statement and one that I take great offense to. > > If you want to take it to TNCHAT-L (as you have), that is fine with me... > but > please don't make such obviously political statements here and not expect to > get a response at least from me. > > I have been with USGenWeb and TNGenWeb from Day 1 (in fact, I was asked to > start TNGenWeb) and have some strong feelings about this project. > > George of Lincoln > > On 29 Jan 99 at 19:03, TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > George et al, > > > > Well, George, I am going to make an assumption here. That assumption is > > that when you say "Lincoln Co TN does not consider itself separate from > > USGenWeb, technically or otherwise," you are really expressing your own > > personal opinion. > > > > Invite you to visit our state home page and at the bottom you will find > > links to both the Charter and Bylaws of TNGenNet Inc. > > > > http://www.tngenweb.org/ > > > > While I believe that these two documents do make us "technically (and > > legally) separate, the discussion of these matters should occur on our > > TNCHAT mailing list. > > > > Therefore, I will respond more fully there, but not right away. I am > > about to go stepping out with my wife, and she rates higher than > > political missives. > > > > Fred > > > > >>>>>> > > > > George Waller wrote: > > > > > > On 25 Jan 99 at 14:23, Fred Smoot wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > As we are technically separate from the USGW and our organization > serves > > > > as the Tennessee volunteers to the USGW, we might want to consider > some > > > > separate ethical standards for ourselves. > > > [snip] > > > > > > Fred, > > > Just to go on the record, Lincoln Co TN does not consider itself > > > separate from USGenWeb, technically or otherwise. > > > George > > > > > > ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== > > > Please make sure your links back to any project > > > site located on USIT has the URL > > > http://www.tngenweb.org/ > > > > > > ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== > > Please make sure your links back to any project > > site located on USIT has the URL > > http://www.tngenweb.org/ > > > >

Get this crap off the required mail list. Jane -----Original Message----- From: George Waller <hbladm1@uconnvm.uconn.edu> To: TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com <TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [TNGEN-L] I apologize (this has to deal with politics) Reply Fred, First of all, I will give you a big hug... this is the latest custom on USGenWeb-ALL and reduces some of the tensions there. Now Fred, it was you who made the claim *here* on TNGEN-L that TNGenWeb is technically separate from USGenWeb. That is a blatant political statement and one that I take great offense to. If you want to take it to TNCHAT-L (as you have), that is fine with me... but please don't make such obviously political statements here and not expect to get a response at least from me. I have been with USGenWeb and TNGenWeb from Day 1 (in fact, I was asked to start TNGenWeb) and have some strong feelings about this project. George of Lincoln On 29 Jan 99 at 19:03, TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > George et al, > > Well, George, I am going to make an assumption here. That assumption is > that when you say "Lincoln Co TN does not consider itself separate from > USGenWeb, technically or otherwise," you are really expressing your own > personal opinion. > > Invite you to visit our state home page and at the bottom you will find > links to both the Charter and Bylaws of TNGenNet Inc. > > http://www.tngenweb.org/ > > While I believe that these two documents do make us "technically (and > legally) separate, the discussion of these matters should occur on our > TNCHAT mailing list. > > Therefore, I will respond more fully there, but not right away. I am > about to go stepping out with my wife, and she rates higher than > political missives. > > Fred > > >>>>>> > > George Waller wrote: > > > > On 25 Jan 99 at 14:23, Fred Smoot wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > As we are technically separate from the USGW and our organization serves > > > as the Tennessee volunteers to the USGW, we might want to consider some > > > separate ethical standards for ourselves. > > [snip] > > > > Fred, > > Just to go on the record, Lincoln Co TN does not consider itself > > separate from USGenWeb, technically or otherwise. > > George > > > > ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== > > Please make sure your links back to any project > > site located on USIT has the URL > > http://www.tngenweb.org/ > > > ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== > Please make sure your links back to any project > site located on USIT has the URL > http://www.tngenweb.org/ > > ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== Don't forget to visit TNGenWeb's Bulletin Board http://pluto.beseen.com/boardroom/d/19731/ Help the folks out if you can, but remember to answer the query so it can be seen on line.

Thanks Jane........couldn't have said it better! Vicki Gibson Co. TN Coordinator USGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngibson

My recollection is that TNGenWeb recently had to suspend the Johnson County coordinators for intemperate and unkind statements here on TNGEN-L. George of Lincoln On 30 Jan 99 at 20:53, TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > Dear Nancy and TNGenWeb Coordinators, > > We have redesigned the Johnson County Genealogy page and we have resigned from > the TNGenWeb and the USGenWeb. What with Pam being banned from every list > housed on the rootsweb server, including the TNGen-l (required for TN CCs) and > TNChat lists, she has been unable to either post or receive any messages. > Just to make it clear, the banned four cannot post or receive messages to ANY > list on RW. That means surname or county lists. That also means, if their > pages were on rootsweb (which they're not) they would not be able to FTP > updated pages. I don't know if you're aware of that. As for me the power > supply to my computer fried and I'm waiting for it to be fixed. Until then, > I'm using my old computer and I know once again why I bought a new one. > > How many of you who are "list owners" of county and/or surname lists on > Rootsweb are aware someone other than you can sub and unsub people without > your permission or knowledge? And that you can do absolutely nothing to > prevent it? > > But, please let me make one thing clear...we KNOW that neither Bridgett or > Nancy did the unsubbing, it was done either by Brian Levrich, owner of > Rootsweb, or he had someone else from Rootsweb do it. On the other hand, a > couple of days after the four were banned, a statement from the Advisory Board > of USGW was made that they backed Brian's actions. Again, no word, no > contact, no nothing. Not even from Bridgett the TNGenWeb State Coordinator > who is also on the USGW Advisory Board. Why not, Bridgett, why not?? > > Nancy, "tiring" is an understatement. Do you have any idea what its like to > be tried in a public forum for no reason and not be able to defend yourself? > That is exactly what happened to Pam, Carol Dean, Susan Cook and Teresa > Lindquist. Several people, including me, have asked on the ALL list to please > list the exact reasons for their banning. We received no response at all > except negative responses from people who have taken it waaaay beyond anything > resembling the truth! As to being with the "wrong people", I don't know what > that means or what makes them the "wrong people". Unfortunately most > volunteers don't know what really happened. > > As for the buttons on Johnson County page, they are/were meant to make fun of > the whole silly situation. But I guess they can also serve as a warning to > other "list owners". It can happen to them too. > > If anyone from TNGen web management or even SE/ME had sent one e-mail to > Pam, to show an ounce of concern over her being banned from project > communication, it might have been a whole lot different. > > The banning of the "Rootsweb 4" was for 30 days. At the end of that time, > they MAY be allowed back on a case to case basis. No criteria has been made > as to what they need to do to come back in good stead. They did nothing to > apologize for or to retract. What other choice do Pam and I have but to > resign! And so, Johnson County has resigned from the USGW/TNGenWeb project. > June 1996 was when I started with TNGenWeb and I think my first upload was in > July or August 1996. Pam became Co-Coordinator the following year and I bless > her every day since. The URL for the pages will remain the same since none > are on Rootsweb. The same goes for the Johnson County mail list. The JCT > researchers will not lose. They have always been our first priority. We will > continue on the same course we've been following all this time. > > For me its truly sad to see the political direction USGW is going. On the > other hand, incorporating Tennessee should go a long way to taking power away > from the top or wherever its coming from. > > Mary Floy and Pam > > > Mary Floy Katzman > maryfloy@mkatzman.tiac.net

Fred, First of all, I will give you a big hug... this is the latest custom on USGenWeb-ALL and reduces some of the tensions there. Now Fred, it was you who made the claim *here* on TNGEN-L that TNGenWeb is technically separate from USGenWeb. That is a blatant political statement and one that I take great offense to. If you want to take it to TNCHAT-L (as you have), that is fine with me... but please don't make such obviously political statements here and not expect to get a response at least from me. I have been with USGenWeb and TNGenWeb from Day 1 (in fact, I was asked to start TNGenWeb) and have some strong feelings about this project. George of Lincoln On 29 Jan 99 at 19:03, TNGEN-L@rootsweb.com wrote: > George et al, > > Well, George, I am going to make an assumption here. That assumption is > that when you say "Lincoln Co TN does not consider itself separate from > USGenWeb, technically or otherwise," you are really expressing your own > personal opinion. > > Invite you to visit our state home page and at the bottom you will find > links to both the Charter and Bylaws of TNGenNet Inc. > > http://www.tngenweb.org/ > > While I believe that these two documents do make us "technically (and > legally) separate, the discussion of these matters should occur on our > TNCHAT mailing list. > > Therefore, I will respond more fully there, but not right away. I am > about to go stepping out with my wife, and she rates higher than > political missives. > > Fred > > >>>>>> > > George Waller wrote: > > > > On 25 Jan 99 at 14:23, Fred Smoot wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > As we are technically separate from the USGW and our organization serves > > > as the Tennessee volunteers to the USGW, we might want to consider some > > > separate ethical standards for ourselves. > > [snip] > > > > Fred, > > Just to go on the record, Lincoln Co TN does not consider itself > > separate from USGenWeb, technically or otherwise. > > George > > > > ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== > > Please make sure your links back to any project > > site located on USIT has the URL > > http://www.tngenweb.org/ > > > ==== TNGEN Mailing List ==== > Please make sure your links back to any project > site located on USIT has the URL > http://www.tngenweb.org/ > >