Stan, Sometimes I find the marriage record, or sometimes the maiden name is on a tombstone, in a parents' Last Will & Testament, Bible records, a surname passed down as a given name in the family, a census record that shows a household with an in-law in it, maybe a neighbor always present throughout moves, Death Certificates, and oral family traditions. If her given name is fairly uncommon in a given area I will hunt for her line by line in the census immediately prior to her marriage. Most of the time the maiden name will be found but occasionally it will not. In those cases when I am entering the female's given name in my data base I will add her married name in parenthesis. This makes it easier to find on the index. I will remove the name in parenthesis when I find the correct maiden name for her. If you give me a specific example I will try to give you ideas on where to look. Sincerely, Anna Bertram ----- Original Message ----- From: Stan Arney To: tnfentre@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE] A question about your research - follow up Hi, Please, don't think that I'm biased and completely disregard, the women, in the family. Most of my ancestors, I have been unable to find the maiden names of their wife's, how do you go about finding them? Thank you for your time, consideration, and cooperation, I truly appreciate it. Sincerely, Stan ArneyWichita, KS http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TNFENTRE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNFENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All On my dads death cert ..  it gave his parents from calif.   Wrong they both from Ky.   There marriage cert was Ky   Never know   Bill n Lois --- On Thu, 12/30/10, Anna L Bertram <abertram@dtccom.net> wrote: From: Anna L Bertram <abertram@dtccom.net> Subject: [TNFENTRE] A question about your research - follow up To: tnfentre@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, December 30, 2010, 2:13 PM Stan, Sometimes I find the marriage record, or sometimes the maiden name is on a tombstone, in a parents' Last Will & Testament, Bible records, a surname passed down as a given name in the family, a census record that shows a household with an in-law in it, maybe a neighbor always present throughout moves, Death Certificates, and oral family traditions. If her given name is fairly uncommon in a given area I will hunt for her line by line in the census immediately prior to her marriage. Most of the time the maiden name will be found but occasionally it will not. In those cases when I am entering the female's given name in my data base I will add her married name in parenthesis. This makes it easier to find on the index. I will remove the name in parenthesis when I find the correct maiden name for her. If you give me a specific example I will try to give you ideas on where to look. Sincerely, Anna Bertram   ----- Original Message -----   From: Stan Arney   To: tnfentre@rootsweb.com   Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:03 PM   Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE] A question about your research - follow up   Hi,   Please, don't think that I'm biased and completely disregard, the women, in the family.   Most of my ancestors, I have been unable to find the maiden names of their wife's, how do you go about finding them?   Thank you for your time, consideration, and cooperation, I truly appreciate it.   Sincerely,   Stan ArneyWichita, KS            http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TNFENTRE   -------------------------------   To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNFENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TNFENTRE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNFENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anna & Stan: I've sometimes mentally "driven down the road" where the census was taken to try to find a family I was certain was in a community and lived on a specific road.  By doing that, I've found several people where the census taker's handwriting was misinterpreted in Ancestry or other places.  I've also found people by looking at neighbors.  A lot of times a family would move to an area, find a good job, and let other friends and family know about the jobs.  Then they move near the original person.  Coalfield's mining camps are a good example of that type of situation. Sometimes a son or daughter is given the mother's maiden name as a first or second name. An example is Whetson, the son's second name and the grandmother's maiden name.  There were Whetsons living in the neighborhood, too.  Of course that doesn't guarantee the maiden name, but it gives you another place to look. Judy   The May Sexton McGlothin Foundation is now online at maymcglothin.org!  Keeping the dream alive! Laus Deo ----- Original Message ---- From: Anna L Bertram <abertram@dtccom.net> To: tnfentre@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 9:13:35 AM Subject: [TNFENTRE] A question about your research - follow up Stan, Sometimes I find the marriage record, or sometimes the maiden name is on a tombstone, in a parents' Last Will & Testament, Bible records, a surname passed down as a given name in the family, a census record that shows a household with an in-law in it, maybe a neighbor always present throughout moves, Death Certificates, and oral family traditions. If her given name is fairly uncommon in a given area I will hunt for her line by line in the census immediately prior to her marriage. Most of the time the maiden name will be found but occasionally it will not. In those cases when I am entering the female's given name in my data base I will add her married name in parenthesis. This makes it easier to find on the index. I will remove the name in parenthesis when I find the correct maiden name for her. If you give me a specific example I will try to give you ideas on where to look. Sincerely, Anna Bertram   ----- Original Message -----   From: Stan Arney   To: tnfentre@rootsweb.com   Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:03 PM   Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE] A question about your research - follow up   Hi,   Please, don't think that I'm biased and completely disregard, the women, in the family.   Most of my ancestors, I have been unable to find the maiden names of their wife's, how do you go about finding them?   Thank you for your time, consideration, and cooperation, I truly appreciate it.   Sincerely,   Stan ArneyWichita, KS           http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TNFENTRE   -------------------------------   To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNFENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TNFENTRE ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNFENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I love your idea about adding the married names in parenthesis for the unknowns Anna, I'll be borrowing that one! ;) Joyce R. > From: abertram@dtccom.net > To: tnfentre@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 08:13:35 -0600 > Subject: [TNFENTRE] A question about your research - follow up > > Stan, > > Sometimes I find the marriage record, or sometimes the maiden name is on a tombstone, in a parents' Last Will & Testament, Bible records, a surname passed down as a given name in the family, a census record that shows a household with an in-law in it, maybe a neighbor always present throughout moves, Death Certificates, and oral family traditions. If her given name is fairly uncommon in a given area I will hunt for her line by line in the census immediately prior to her marriage. Most of the time the maiden name will be found but occasionally it will not. In those cases when I am entering the female's given name in my data base I will add her married name in parenthesis. This makes it easier to find on the index. I will remove the name in parenthesis when I find the correct maiden name for her. > > If you give me a specific example I will try to give you ideas on where to look. > > Sincerely, > Anna Bertram > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stan Arney > To: tnfentre@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:03 PM > Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE] A question about your research - follow up > > > Hi, > > Please, don't think that I'm biased and completely disregard, the women, in the family. > > Most of my ancestors, I have been unable to find the maiden names of their wife's, how do you go about finding them? > > Thank you for your time, consideration, and cooperation, I truly appreciate it. > > Sincerely, > > Stan ArneyWichita, KS > > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TNFENTRE > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNFENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/TNFENTRE > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNFENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anna, Hi, in reply to your statement, "If you give me a specific example I will try to give you ideas on where to look." Peter Arney, my first ancestor to settle in Tennessee. He was born in 1772, in Tryon County, North Carolina. Between 1790-1793, he moved to the area of Wythe County, Virginia, where he married his wife, Margaret (surname unknown), and began his family. Several of his children were born, in Virginia, even after he went to the Tennessee area. Around 1799, he moved to the Cumberland area, between Kentucky and (what would become) Tennessee. In 1801, he was in Smith County, Tennessee (where his name is on a petition to halt the annexation of Smith & Wilson Counties to form a new county), which obviously failed. In 1802, his name was on the 1802 Tax Roll for Jackson County, Tennessee. In 1814, he purchased 300 acres of land, in Overton County, Tennessee, from John Sevier. In 1820, his name first appears on the 1820 US Federal Census, State of Tennessee, County of Overton (as well as 1830 & 1840). He died in 1845, in Overton County, Tennessee. I have been unable to find any, what I term "DTP" (Definitive Tangible Proof) of Peter Arney, in Wythe County, Virginia.  No marriage records, no birth/baptism records, no tax rolls, no land deals (purchases/sales), etc. The only marriage record, I have ever found, in Wythe County, Virginia, for a Peter Arney, is to a Catherine Fox, in 1827.  My Peter Arney, was already established, in Overton County, Tennessee. Therefore, I have never been able to find anything on his wife, Margaret. What would you suggest? Thank you, for your time, consideration, and cooperation, I truly appreciate it. Sincerely, Stan --- On Thu, 12/30/10, Anna L Bertram <abertram@dtccom.net> wrote: From: Anna L Bertram <abertram@dtccom.net> Subject: [TNFENTRE] A question about your research - follow up To: tnfentre@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, December 30, 2010, 8:13 AM Stan, If you give me a specific example I will try to give you ideas on where to look. Sincerely, Anna Bertram