John Culver, b. 1792-93 in NC, was on the census rolls in Fentress County, TN from 1830 through 1860. He had a wife, Nancy, and several children. In 1863, he was allegedly killed by Champ Ferguson. In 1870, on the Clinton County, KY census, there is a John Culver, age 78, b. NC, his wife, Martha, age 37, b. TN, and a son, James, age 4, b. KY. In 1880, on the Ozark County, MO census, there is a John Culver, age 87, b. MO, his wife, Martha, age 48, b. TN, son James, age 14, b. KY, and daughter Ellen, age 8, b. KY. There is also an Arion Solimon, age 25, b. TN, a brother-in-law. I regard the birthplace of MO after John's name as a minor glitch. The Arion Solimon is Aaron Solomon, my grandfather and brother of Martha. They were both children of Moses and Nancy Solomon, residents of Fentress County at least from 1840 to 1850 and probably 1857. Nancy is believed to have died about 1857-58; Moses remarried in Wayne County, KY in 1860 and is there on the 1860 census and never found again. The 1880 MO census is how I first discovered who Martha had married, by searching for Aaron Solomon. One Culver researcher says that John died in 1878 and that he is buried in the Albertson Family Cemetery next to his wife, Nancy. I don't know if that tombstone has a birthdate on it or not. I wonder if this could be another John Culver, b. about 1832-33, the son of the 1793 John Culver. How could he die in 1878 if he was killed in 1863? I have posted this before and got little reaction other than the statement that John Culver died in 1878. So what are the possibilities? If he lived until 1878, then where was he on the 1870 census? Certainly not on the Fentress County census. Was his death faked in 1863? If he died in either 1863 or 1878, then who is the John Culver mentioned in the above two censuses? There are too many possibilities that John and Martha knew each other in Fentress County, and too many similarities in other information for me to believe anything other than this is the same John Culver listed in Fentress County from 1830 through 1860, despite the fact that he is alleged to have died on two different occasions. I have found no marriage record in KY or any other place, by the way, for John and Martha.