Carletta, There are four Culvers that have stones in the Albertson Cemetery. They are Jacob Culver, b. 1850, d. Dec 11, 1918. He died in WWI. Next is L. D. Culver, b. 1845, d. Dec 5, 1918. Died in WWI. Then there is Nancy Culver, b. 1800, d. Mar. 2, 1901. Last is Maud Culver, b. 1874, d. 1950. This is information listed in the Fentress County Cemetery book by Mable Wheeler. The cemetery is located on my farm. Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carletta M Keith" <cmkeith@wt.net> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:15 PM Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] The Lives and Wives of John Culver (Subtitle: How many times can a man die?) > John Culver, b. 1792-93 in NC, was on the census rolls in Fentress County, > TN from 1830 through 1860. He had a wife, Nancy, and several children. > In 1863, he was allegedly killed by Champ Ferguson. > > In 1870, on the Clinton County, KY census, there is a John Culver, age 78, > b. NC, his wife, Martha, age 37, b. TN, and a son, James, age 4, b. KY. > > In 1880, on the Ozark County, MO census, there is a John Culver, age 87, > b. MO, his wife, Martha, age 48, b. TN, son James, age 14, b. KY, and > daughter Ellen, age 8, b. KY. There is also an Arion Solimon, age 25, b. > TN, a brother-in-law. > > I regard the birthplace of MO after John's name as a minor glitch. The > Arion Solimon is Aaron Solomon, my grandfather and brother of Martha. > They were both children of Moses and Nancy Solomon, residents of Fentress > County at least from 1840 to 1850 and probably 1857. Nancy is believed to > have died about 1857-58; Moses remarried in Wayne County, KY in 1860 and > is there on the 1860 census and never found again. The 1880 MO census is > how I first discovered who Martha had married, by searching for Aaron > Solomon. > > One Culver researcher says that John died in 1878 and that he is buried in > the Albertson Family Cemetery next to his wife, Nancy. I don't know if > that tombstone has a birthdate on it or not. I wonder if this could be > another John Culver, b. about 1832-33, the son of the 1793 John Culver. > How could he die in 1878 if he was killed in 1863? > > I have posted this before and got little reaction other than the statement > that John Culver died in 1878. So what are the possibilities? If he > lived until 1878, then where was he on the 1870 census? Certainly not on > the Fentress County census. Was his death faked in 1863? If he died in > either 1863 or 1878, then who is the John Culver mentioned in the above > two censuses? There are too many possibilities that John and Martha knew > each other in Fentress County, and too many similarities in other > information for me to believe anything other than this is the same John > Culver listed in Fentress County from 1830 through 1860, despite the fact > that he is alleged to have died on two different occasions. > > I have found no marriage record in KY or any other place, by the way, for > John and Martha. > > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Does Anyone Ever Read the Taglines ??? Just Curious..Also, Please change > your Subject Line. We all tend to forget that.Self included. > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre > >

Thanks for this information. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie R Beaty" <wbeaty@twlakes.net> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: June 20, 2006 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] The Lives and Wives of John Culver (Subtitle: How many times can a man die?) > Carletta, > > There are four Culvers that have stones in the Albertson Cemetery. They are > Jacob Culver, b. 1850, d. Dec 11, 1918. He died in WWI. Next is L. D. > Culver, b. 1845, d. Dec 5, 1918. Died in WWI. Then there is Nancy Culver, b. > 1800, d. Mar. 2, 1901. Last is Maud Culver, b. 1874, d. 1950. This is > information listed in the Fentress County Cemetery book by Mable Wheeler. > The cemetery is located on my farm. > > Willie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carletta M Keith" <cmkeith@wt.net> > To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:15 PM > Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] The Lives and Wives of John Culver (Subtitle: How many > times can a man die?) > > > > John Culver, b. 1792-93 in NC, was on the census rolls in Fentress County, > > TN from 1830 through 1860. He had a wife, Nancy, and several children. > > In 1863, he was allegedly killed by Champ Ferguson. > > > > In 1870, on the Clinton County, KY census, there is a John Culver, age 78, > > b. NC, his wife, Martha, age 37, b. TN, and a son, James, age 4, b. KY. > > > > In 1880, on the Ozark County, MO census, there is a John Culver, age 87, > > b. MO, his wife, Martha, age 48, b. TN, son James, age 14, b. KY, and > > daughter Ellen, age 8, b. KY. There is also an Arion Solimon, age 25, b. > > TN, a brother-in-law. > > > > I regard the birthplace of MO after John's name as a minor glitch. The > > Arion Solimon is Aaron Solomon, my grandfather and brother of Martha. > > They were both children of Moses and Nancy Solomon, residents of Fentress > > County at least from 1840 to 1850 and probably 1857. Nancy is believed to > > have died about 1857-58; Moses remarried in Wayne County, KY in 1860 and > > is there on the 1860 census and never found again. The 1880 MO census is > > how I first discovered who Martha had married, by searching for Aaron > > Solomon. > > > > One Culver researcher says that John died in 1878 and that he is buried in > > the Albertson Family Cemetery next to his wife, Nancy. I don't know if > > that tombstone has a birthdate on it or not. I wonder if this could be > > another John Culver, b. about 1832-33, the son of the 1793 John Culver. > > How could he die in 1878 if he was killed in 1863? > > > > I have posted this before and got little reaction other than the statement > > that John Culver died in 1878. So what are the possibilities? If he > > lived until 1878, then where was he on the 1870 census? Certainly not on > > the Fentress County census. Was his death faked in 1863? If he died in > > either 1863 or 1878, then who is the John Culver mentioned in the above > > two censuses? There are too many possibilities that John and Martha knew > > each other in Fentress County, and too many similarities in other > > information for me to believe anything other than this is the same John > > Culver listed in Fentress County from 1830 through 1860, despite the fact > > that he is alleged to have died on two different occasions. > > > > I have found no marriage record in KY or any other place, by the way, for > > John and Martha. > > > > > > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > > Does Anyone Ever Read the Taglines ??? Just Curious..Also, Please change > > your Subject Line. We all tend to forget that.Self included. > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre > > > > > > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Don't Forget To Check The Courthouse & Bible Records For Pre 1865 Overton and Fentress Marriages.Also, Look For Recorded Wills. >

Hi Willie and all others, Do you know if the L. D. Culver, you mentioned b. 1845, d. Dec 5, 1918 is Dow Lorenzo Culver s/o John Culver & Nancy (Choate)Culver ?? Is the Nancy Culver, b. 1800, d. Mar. 2, 1901 the wife of John Culver? If these are as suspected how does Maud tie in (a born or married Culver?). Where is John Culver buried? Thanking in advance, Fabian Doles Willie R Beaty schrieb: > Carletta, > > There are four Culvers that have stones in the Albertson Cemetery. > They are Jacob Culver, b. 1850, d. Dec 11, 1918. He died in WWI. Next > is L. D. Culver, b. 1845, d. Dec 5, 1918. Died in WWI. Then there is > Nancy Culver, b. 1800, d. Mar. 2, 1901. Last is Maud Culver, b. 1874, > d. 1950. This is information listed in the Fentress County Cemetery > book by Mable Wheeler. The cemetery is located on my farm. > > Willie > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carletta M Keith" <cmkeith@wt.net> > To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:15 PM > Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] The Lives and Wives of John Culver (Subtitle: > How many times can a man die?) > > >> John Culver, b. 1792-93 in NC, was on the census rolls in Fentress >> County, TN from 1830 through 1860. He had a wife, Nancy, and several >> children. In 1863, he was allegedly killed by Champ Ferguson. >> >> In 1870, on the Clinton County, KY census, there is a John Culver, >> age 78, b. NC, his wife, Martha, age 37, b. TN, and a son, James, age >> 4, b. KY. >> >> In 1880, on the Ozark County, MO census, there is a John Culver, age >> 87, b. MO, his wife, Martha, age 48, b. TN, son James, age 14, b. KY, >> and daughter Ellen, age 8, b. KY. There is also an Arion Solimon, >> age 25, b. TN, a brother-in-law. >> >> I regard the birthplace of MO after John's name as a minor glitch. >> The Arion Solimon is Aaron Solomon, my grandfather and brother of >> Martha. They were both children of Moses and Nancy Solomon, residents >> of Fentress County at least from 1840 to 1850 and probably 1857. >> Nancy is believed to have died about 1857-58; Moses remarried in >> Wayne County, KY in 1860 and is there on the 1860 census and never >> found again. The 1880 MO census is how I first discovered who Martha >> had married, by searching for Aaron Solomon. >> >> One Culver researcher says that John died in 1878 and that he is >> buried in the Albertson Family Cemetery next to his wife, Nancy. I >> don't know if that tombstone has a birthdate on it or not. I wonder >> if this could be another John Culver, b. about 1832-33, the son of >> the 1793 John Culver. How could he die in 1878 if he was killed in 1863? >> >> I have posted this before and got little reaction other than the >> statement that John Culver died in 1878. So what are the >> possibilities? If he lived until 1878, then where was he on the 1870 >> census? Certainly not on the Fentress County census. Was his death >> faked in 1863? If he died in either 1863 or 1878, then who is the >> John Culver mentioned in the above two censuses? There are too many >> possibilities that John and Martha knew each other in Fentress >> County, and too many similarities in other information for me to >> believe anything other than this is the same John Culver listed in >> Fentress County from 1830 through 1860, despite the fact that he is >> alleged to have died on two different occasions. >> >> I have found no marriage record in KY or any other place, by the way, >> for John and Martha. >> >> >> >> ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== >> Does Anyone Ever Read the Taglines ??? Just Curious..Also, Please >> change your Subject Line. We all tend to forget that.Self included. >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre >> >> > > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Don't Forget To Check The Courthouse & Bible Records For Pre 1865 > Overton and Fentress Marriages.Also, Look For Recorded Wills. > >

Fabian, I'm sorry. I don't know the answer to your questions. I am just going by the names on the gravestones and in the cemetery book. There is a parenthetical insertion following Maud Culver's name (wife) followed by the date of birth and death. This is in Wheeler's cemetery book. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fabian Doles" <doles@netcologne.de> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] The Lives and Wives of John Culver (Subtitle: How many times can a man die?) > Hi Willie and all others, > Do you know if the L. D. Culver, you mentioned b. 1845, d. Dec 5, 1918 is > Dow Lorenzo Culver s/o John Culver & Nancy (Choate)Culver ?? > Is the Nancy Culver, b. 1800, d. Mar. 2, 1901 the wife of John Culver? > If these are as suspected how does Maud tie in (a born or married > Culver?). Where is John Culver buried? > > Thanking in advance, > Fabian Doles > > > Willie R Beaty schrieb: >> Carletta, >> >> There are four Culvers that have stones in the Albertson Cemetery. They >> are Jacob Culver, b. 1850, d. Dec 11, 1918. He died in WWI. Next is L. >> D. Culver, b. 1845, d. Dec 5, 1918. Died in WWI. Then there is Nancy >> Culver, b. 1800, d. Mar. 2, 1901. Last is Maud Culver, b. 1874, d. 1950. >> This is information listed in the Fentress County Cemetery book by Mable >> Wheeler. The cemetery is located on my farm. >> >> Willie >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carletta M Keith" <cmkeith@wt.net> >> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:15 PM >> Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] The Lives and Wives of John Culver (Subtitle: How >> many times can a man die?) >> >> >>> John Culver, b. 1792-93 in NC, was on the census rolls in Fentress >>> County, TN from 1830 through 1860. He had a wife, Nancy, and several >>> children. In 1863, he was allegedly killed by Champ Ferguson. >>> >>> In 1870, on the Clinton County, KY census, there is a John Culver, age >>> 78, b. NC, his wife, Martha, age 37, b. TN, and a son, James, age 4, b. >>> KY. >>> >>> In 1880, on the Ozark County, MO census, there is a John Culver, age 87, >>> b. MO, his wife, Martha, age 48, b. TN, son James, age 14, b. KY, and >>> daughter Ellen, age 8, b. KY. There is also an Arion Solimon, age 25, >>> b. TN, a brother-in-law. >>> >>> I regard the birthplace of MO after John's name as a minor glitch. The >>> Arion Solimon is Aaron Solomon, my grandfather and brother of Martha. >>> They were both children of Moses and Nancy Solomon, residents of >>> Fentress County at least from 1840 to 1850 and probably 1857. Nancy is >>> believed to have died about 1857-58; Moses remarried in Wayne County, KY >>> in 1860 and is there on the 1860 census and never found again. The 1880 >>> MO census is how I first discovered who Martha had married, by searching >>> for Aaron Solomon. >>> >>> One Culver researcher says that John died in 1878 and that he is buried >>> in the Albertson Family Cemetery next to his wife, Nancy. I don't know >>> if that tombstone has a birthdate on it or not. I wonder if this could >>> be another John Culver, b. about 1832-33, the son of the 1793 John >>> Culver. How could he die in 1878 if he was killed in 1863? >>> >>> I have posted this before and got little reaction other than the >>> statement that John Culver died in 1878. So what are the possibilities? >>> If he lived until 1878, then where was he on the 1870 census? Certainly >>> not on the Fentress County census. Was his death faked in 1863? If he >>> died in either 1863 or 1878, then who is the John Culver mentioned in >>> the above two censuses? There are too many possibilities that John and >>> Martha knew each other in Fentress County, and too many similarities in >>> other information for me to believe anything other than this is the same >>> John Culver listed in Fentress County from 1830 through 1860, despite >>> the fact that he is alleged to have died on two different occasions. >>> >>> I have found no marriage record in KY or any other place, by the way, >>> for John and Martha. >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== >>> Does Anyone Ever Read the Taglines ??? Just Curious..Also, Please change >>> your Subject Line. We all tend to forget that.Self included. >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== >> Don't Forget To Check The Courthouse & Bible Records For Pre 1865 Overton >> and Fentress Marriages.Also, Look For Recorded Wills. >> >> > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Post your questions and inquiry about your Ancestor regularly...Someone > may find a relative. > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre > >