Does anyone know anything about the parents of Effie L. Crabtree Holbert Pennycuff? I've not been able to conclusively find her or her parents on the census records. I have found a Harvey (Harve) Crabtree (b. July 04, 1891, Wayne County, KY) who is married to a Leila M. (or Lela) Smith (abt. 1902) with a daughter, Maggie Crabtree (b. March 02, 1919 in Wayne County, KY) on the 1920 Wayne County Census. The name of Maggie's mother was given as "Lela Smith" on her Maggie's birth record. On the 1920 Census they are living next door to both a Susie Smith (age 40) household and a Lizzie Groce (age 44) household. On the 1930 Wayne County Census, this Harve Crabtree family also has a daughter, Sarah, age 9, (besides Maggie) and they are still living beside the Susie Smith household (she is shown with two adopted children -- Leila Smith, age 10 and Ray Burgess, age 1 2/12). I've not been able to find any "Effie's" on the 1930 Wayne County Census. Now, I'm wondering if perhaps Efflie L. Crabtree, is the "Effie L. Groce" living next door to the Harve Crabtree family. On the 1920 Wayne County Census (dated 1/6/1920), Lizzie Groce has a daughter, Ellie (age 22, but listed as "married", but with the "Groce" name), in the household and there is also a "Effie L. Groce" (age 2 4/12) listed as grandaughter. There is also a "Lela L. Smith (or Groce) age 2/12 listed as grandaughter as well. Evidently, this Lizzie Groce's maiden name was "Crabtree", because on her son, George M. Groce's (Gross) Wayne County, KY birth record (12/13/1912) his mother is listed as "Lizzie Crabtree". I'm thinking that perhaps Effie L. Crabtree Holbert Pennycuff was the daughter of this Harve Crabtree (living next door) and Ellie Groce (daughter of Lizzie Crabtree Groce, b. abt. 1876 in KY). I don't know if this could be Effie's parents or not, but I've done a search all around for her and cannot find who her parents may be. Also, does anyone know who were the parent's of Effie's first husband, William Thomas Holbert? Also is the Delmer Pennyfuff (Effie's second husband) the son of James Matthew Pennycuff and Mary Ann (Molly) Beaty? Thanks so much. I'm sure this posting is very confusing, but I've been trying to get it figured out. Brenda -------------------------------------------------- EFFIE L. PENNYCUFF, AGE 88, of Jamestown, TN, Passed Away Monday, May 22, 2006 at the JAMESTOWN REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER. Funeral Service will be Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 2:00 PM at the WESLEYAN COMMUNITY CHAPEL AT PALL MALL, TN., with burial in the FAIRVIEW CEMETERY. The family will receive friends Tuesday, May 23, 2006 from 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM at Jennings Funeral Home Chapel. EFFIE L. PENNYCUFF is survived by: Son-JACKIE HOLBERT of Jamestown, Tenn. Daughter-BETTY MURRAY of Jamestown, Tenn. 17 GRANDCHILDREN 3 GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN She was preceded in Death by: Father-HARVE CRABTREE Mother-ELLA MAE (GROSS) CRABTREE Son-JUNIOR THOMAS HOLBERT Son-ROBERT THOMAS HOLBERT Son-ROBERT THOMAS HOLBERT Son-JUNIOR THOMAS HOLBERT 1ST HUSBAND-WILLIAM THOMAS HOLBERT 2ND HUSBAND-DELMER PENNYCUFF Jennings Funeral Homes OF Jamestown, TN in charge of services for EFFIE L. PENNYCUFF of Jamestown, TN.

Hi Brenda, have you already seen what Bruce York has on her? http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bruceyork&id=I126239 Fabian BrenINVa@aol.com schrieb: > Does anyone know anything about the parents of Effie L. Crabtree Holbert > Pennycuff? I've not been able to conclusively find her or her parents on the > census records. > > I have found a Harvey (Harve) Crabtree (b. July 04, 1891, Wayne County, KY) > who is married to a Leila M. (or Lela) Smith (abt. 1902) with a daughter, > Maggie Crabtree (b. March 02, 1919 in Wayne County, KY) on the 1920 Wayne > County Census. The name of Maggie's mother was given as "Lela Smith" on her > Maggie's birth record. On the 1920 Census they are living next door to both a > Susie Smith (age 40) household and a Lizzie Groce (age 44) household. > > On the 1930 Wayne County Census, this Harve Crabtree family also has a > daughter, Sarah, age 9, (besides Maggie) and they are still living beside the > Susie Smith household (she is shown with two adopted children -- Leila Smith, age > 10 and Ray Burgess, age 1 2/12). > > I've not been able to find any "Effie's" on the 1930 Wayne County Census. > > Now, I'm wondering if perhaps Efflie L. Crabtree, is the "Effie L. Groce" > living next door to the Harve Crabtree family. > > On the 1920 Wayne County Census (dated 1/6/1920), Lizzie Groce has a > daughter, Ellie (age 22, but listed as "married", but with the "Groce" name), in the > household and there is also a "Effie L. Groce" (age 2 4/12) listed as > grandaughter. There is also a "Lela L. Smith (or Groce) age 2/12 listed as > grandaughter as well. > > Evidently, this Lizzie Groce's maiden name was "Crabtree", because on her > son, George M. Groce's (Gross) Wayne County, KY birth record (12/13/1912) his > mother is listed as "Lizzie Crabtree". > > I'm thinking that perhaps Effie L. Crabtree Holbert Pennycuff was the > daughter of this Harve Crabtree (living next door) and Ellie Groce (daughter of > Lizzie Crabtree Groce, b. abt. 1876 in KY). > > I don't know if this could be Effie's parents or not, but I've done a search > all around for her and cannot find who her parents may be. > > Also, does anyone know who were the parent's of Effie's first husband, > William Thomas Holbert? > > Also is the Delmer Pennyfuff (Effie's second husband) the son of James > Matthew Pennycuff and Mary Ann (Molly) Beaty? > > Thanks so much. I'm sure this posting is very confusing, but I've been > trying to get it figured out. > > Brenda > -------------------------------------------------- > EFFIE L. PENNYCUFF, AGE 88, of Jamestown, TN, Passed Away Monday, May 22, > 2006 at the JAMESTOWN REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER. Funeral Service will be > Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 2:00 PM at the WESLEYAN COMMUNITY CHAPEL AT PALL MALL, > TN., with burial in the FAIRVIEW CEMETERY. > The family will receive friends Tuesday, May 23, 2006 from 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM > at Jennings Funeral Home Chapel. > EFFIE L. PENNYCUFF is survived by: > Son-JACKIE HOLBERT of Jamestown, Tenn. > Daughter-BETTY MURRAY of Jamestown, Tenn. > 17 GRANDCHILDREN > 3 GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN > She was preceded in Death by: > Father-HARVE CRABTREE > Mother-ELLA MAE (GROSS) CRABTREE > Son-JUNIOR THOMAS HOLBERT > Son-ROBERT THOMAS HOLBERT > Son-ROBERT THOMAS HOLBERT > Son-JUNIOR THOMAS HOLBERT > 1ST HUSBAND-WILLIAM THOMAS HOLBERT > 2ND HUSBAND-DELMER PENNYCUFF > Jennings Funeral Homes OF Jamestown, TN in charge of services for EFFIE L. > PENNYCUFF of Jamestown, TN. > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > VERY IMPORTANT************** To Unsubscribe, send E-Mail to TNFENTRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (For Single Messages) or TNFENTRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (For Digest Mode)and put unsubscribe > > >