Gary, Thanks for this info. I'll give Wilbur a call after the holiday and see if he might be interested. I'll also talk to him about his book since I have Oma Smith's book on the "Smith - Garrett & Allied Families of Overton, Fentress, and Pickett Counties, TN" I know there are several Smith lines that we can't connect from the early 1800's that I know probably connect further back in the 1700's. I just don't which ones and, like you said, they could even be from southern KY as well. I do believe we can, at least, find the ones that belong together and connect them through the Y-DNA testing process. After that, we can start looking for the documents and papers - if, we ever find them. I just need enough male Smith's from those lines to take the test so that we can connect them. I do know the Beaty Y-DNA Project has made some amazing progress in connecting their loose ends. My Beaty line went from L2 in the beginning to L3E now. Willie's line is the next one after mine. Ron Smith Ron, There is Wilbur C. Smith of Monroe, Overton County. He is from the Jourden Smith line. His research hits a stone wall about 1805. He has the family Bible, but not much else. His telephone number is 931-823-4475. He has written a book about his ancestry. The title is Wilbur's Tales. The family does not seem to be related to the other Smiths in the area. Gary D. Norris