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    1. Champ Ferguson & Smiths
    2. Willie R Beaty
    3. Gary, Eliza Smith, who was Champ Ferguson's first wife, was the daughter of Jesse Bowen Smith, and a brother to Isaac Denton Smith. I.D. and Zerelda Ann Smith (cousin) had daughter named Millie Ann, who married Thomas Riley III. Millie had a brother named John M. Smith, and it was John Smith and Thomas Riley III, along with Hiram Richardson, who were killed at the head of Holbert Creek in January of 1864 by Tinker Dave Beaty's men. A.B. Wright, p.48, has this information: "In January of this year (1864), one-half mile from my home, in a battle between some of Beatty's and Ferguson's men, Hiram Richardson, John Smith, and Thomas Riley, Confederates, were killed. They were young men from families of my neighbors. Young Riley was taken prisoner and brutally murdered, while beggin of his captors the privilege of seeing his young wife, who was only one-half mile away, before they killed him. This was denied him. The young wife died soon afterwards of a broken heart." Family tradition says that Thomas Riley and John Smith were buried in a common grave in the Smith-Koger Cemetery near Chanute. Lizzie Russell had a stone erected in the 70's or 80's with that information written on it. I believe, however, that Tim Huddleston's book says that all three of the dead soldiers were buried in the same grave. I'll check that (and his source) when you bring me the book. Seems that it was Bertha Zachary, but I'm not sure. My great-aunt Mae Clark, who was granddaughter of Thomas and Millie Ann Smith Riley, remembered the "two-in-a-common-grave" story when I talked with her in 2001 about a year before she died at age 105 in Monticello KY. But she couldn't remember which side they were on in the army. I don't know who Elzy Smith was, but may have been related to these Smiths. I don't have his name in my data base. Yes, I believe that Isaac Denton Smith, and Isaac Denton Koger, were both named after the preacher Isaac Denton. Denton was pastor of the church where some of the Smiths were members over in Clinton County, but I don't remember now the name of it. Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Norris" <gnorris@kih.net> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Fentress County Smith Y-DNA Project > Champ Ferguson's first wife was a Smith. He was kin by marriage to the > Lt. > Elzy Smith he later killed after the battle at Saltville, Virginia. Was > Thomas Riley's wife kin to those Smiths? They were not separated by too > much distance as the crow flies. > > Preacher Isaac Denton was head of the Clear Fork Church just south of > Albany. Again, there may be a connection since that church is not too far > from where Champ lived. Perhaps Isaac Denton Smith was named for the > preacher and maybe there is a connection to Champ's first wife. > > Gary D. Norris > >> From: Willie R Beaty <wbeaty@twlakes.net> >> Reply-To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com >> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:51:21 -0600 >> To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Fentress County Smith Y-DNA Project >> Resent-From: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com >> Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:55:11 -0700 >> >> Ron, >> >> I am following with interest your efforts to sort out the SMITHS of >> Fentress >> County. I would be glad to help, but my SMith connection is four >> generations >> back and I really know no living Smith males that I am related to. My >> g-g-grandmother was Millie Ann Smith, born in KY in 1840 married Thomas >> Riley III. He died in 1864, a causualty of the Civil War, and his wife >> Millie died about 16 months later, in 1865. Millie was pregnant with >> their >> first child when Thomas was killed by Tinker David Beatys men. The >> daughter >> was born May 16, 1864, and named Lodema Thomas Riley. >> >> Millie Ann Smith's parents, Isaac Denton Smith and Zerelda Ann Smith, >> were >> first cousins, the children of Phillip Smith and Raccoon John Smith, >> respectively. Phillip moved his family to Fentress County and died here. >> Millie Ann Smith had a brother, Isaac Woolsey SMith who was a school >> teacher >> and superintendent of schools in Pickett County had two daughters. I know >> of >> none other of the male children who stayed in either TN or KY. Raccoon >> John >> (Elder John Smith) went to MO and died there. Zerelda Ann was his >> daughter >> by his first wife. Other children by his first wife were burned to death >> in >> a fire in Alabama. He returned to KY and remarried and had other >> children, >> but I don't know what happened to them. >> >> Anyway, good luck on your project. I am trying to do the same with our >> Beaty >> lines who settled in Fentress County. We have a DNA project and I am a >> donor >> and have secured the participation of at least four others of different >> lines that we know are connected, but in a couple of cases, haven't been >> able to prove it. >> >> Willie >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ron Smith" <rsmith0127@yahoo.com> >> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:20 PM >> Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] Fentress County Smith Y-DNA Project >> >> >>> Hi Millie and everyone, I hope everyone has a fantastic & blessed >>> Thanksgiving this week! >>> As everyone probably knows, we have had a terrible time trying to >>> separate and identify all the different Smith lines in Fentress County. >>> Recently, I was contacted by Becky Smith who descends from Matthew >>> "Mathie" Smith & Ebba ??? who lived in Dist. 11 of Fentress Co. My >>> g-g-grandfather, George W. Smith and his wife, Judith Garrett also lived >>> in Dist. 11 with their family. Dist. 11 was called the "Olympus" area >>> on >>> the census' that were taken. I strongly believe these two families may >>> have been connected because they don't show up in Oma Smith's book with >>> any amount of mention. Also, because we can't seem to find any records >>> on >>> them - Fentress Co. Courthouse burnt down a couple of times - I believe >>> the only way we can positively identify these and other Smith lines is >>> to >>> ask male Smith family members who have researched their families to >>> participate in a Y-DNA project. >>> My brother, Scott Smith has already taken and has his Y-DNA posted on >>> the >>> Southern Smith's Y-DNA page. There are now well over a hundred other >>> Smith's that have also tested and posted their family trees. I would >>> like >>> to try and organize a 3 county Smith Y-DNA project for males with the >>> SMITH surname that have ancestors from Fentress, Overton, and Pickett >>> counties. If you are trying to research the Smith's from any of these 3 >>> counties, please contact me at: rsmith0127@yahoo.com >>> >>> Please let me know which line you are researching, what county, and who >>> you might have that would be interested in participating. This project >>> would only be for male Smith's because the test only checks the Y-DNA >>> which is carried only by the males of the line. I would suggest a >>> minimum >>> 25 marker test because the 12 marker test really doesn't tell much. >>> Here >>> is the link to the Southern Smith Reconstruction Project: >>> >>> http://www.southernsmiths.org/smithdnaproject.htm >>> >>> If you can't participate, but have a father, uncle, brother, or cousin >>> with the Smith surname, you can submit them if they are willing. You >>> can >>> go to the above link for more info. Also, if you go to the "Test >>> Results" >>> and look in Haplogroup I, you will see Kit #9011 - George W. Smith, >>> Fentress Co., TN - this is my brother, Scott's Y-DNA. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== >>> Do not spam or send derogatory comments to any other subscriber to this >>> list. >>> It will happen once and then you will be permanently removed. >>> >> >> >> >> ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== >> Please do not write your message with CAPS on. It is seen as anger.You >> may put >> Surnames in CAPS.Do not send your letter as a Forward and do not send >> Attachments. Rootsweb Does Not Accept Attachments. >> > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Please do not write your message with CAPS on. It is seen as anger.You may > put Surnames in CAPS.Do not send your letter as a Forward and do not send > Attachments. Rootsweb Does Not Accept Attachments. > >

    11/25/2005 09:27:09
    1. Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Champ Ferguson & Smiths
    2. Willie R Beaty
    3. Gary, I should clarify the below message. Jesse Bowen Smith is a brother to Isaac Denton Smith. Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie R Beaty" <wbeaty@twlakes.net> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 4:27 PM Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] Champ Ferguson & Smiths > Gary, > > Eliza Smith, who was Champ Ferguson's first wife, was the daughter of > Jesse Bowen Smith, and a brother to Isaac Denton Smith. I.D. and Zerelda > Ann Smith (cousin) had daughter named Millie Ann, who married Thomas Riley > III. Millie had a brother named John M. Smith, and it was John Smith and > Thomas Riley III, along with Hiram Richardson, who were killed at the > head of Holbert Creek in January of 1864 by Tinker Dave Beaty's men. A.B. > Wright, p.48, has this information: > > "In January of this year (1864), one-half mile from my home, in a battle > between some of Beatty's and Ferguson's men, Hiram Richardson, John Smith, > and Thomas Riley, Confederates, were killed. They were young men from > families of my neighbors. Young Riley was taken prisoner and brutally > murdered, while beggin of his captors the privilege of seeing his young > wife, who was only one-half mile away, before they killed him. This was > denied him. The young wife died soon afterwards of a broken heart." > > Family tradition says that Thomas Riley and John Smith were buried in a > common grave in the Smith-Koger Cemetery near Chanute. Lizzie Russell had > a stone erected in the 70's or 80's with that information written on it. > > I believe, however, that Tim Huddleston's book says that all three of the > dead soldiers were buried in the same grave. I'll check that (and his > source) when you bring me the book. Seems that it was Bertha Zachary, but > I'm not sure. > > My great-aunt Mae Clark, who was granddaughter of Thomas and Millie Ann > Smith Riley, remembered the "two-in-a-common-grave" story when I talked > with her in 2001 about a year before she died at age 105 in Monticello KY. > But she couldn't remember which side they were on in the army. > > I don't know who Elzy Smith was, but may have been related to these > Smiths. I don't have his name in my data base. > > Yes, I believe that Isaac Denton Smith, and Isaac Denton Koger, were both > named after the preacher Isaac Denton. Denton was pastor of the church > where some of the Smiths were members over in Clinton County, but I don't > remember now the name of it. > > Willie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Norris" <gnorris@kih.net> > To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:33 PM > Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Fentress County Smith Y-DNA Project > > >> Champ Ferguson's first wife was a Smith. He was kin by marriage to the >> Lt. >> Elzy Smith he later killed after the battle at Saltville, Virginia. Was >> Thomas Riley's wife kin to those Smiths? They were not separated by too >> much distance as the crow flies. >> >> Preacher Isaac Denton was head of the Clear Fork Church just south of >> Albany. Again, there may be a connection since that church is not too >> far >> from where Champ lived. Perhaps Isaac Denton Smith was named for the >> preacher and maybe there is a connection to Champ's first wife. >> >> Gary D. Norris >> >>> From: Willie R Beaty <wbeaty@twlakes.net> >>> Reply-To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:51:21 -0600 >>> To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Fentress County Smith Y-DNA Project >>> Resent-From: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com >>> Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:55:11 -0700 >>> >>> Ron, >>> >>> I am following with interest your efforts to sort out the SMITHS of >>> Fentress >>> County. I would be glad to help, but my SMith connection is four >>> generations >>> back and I really know no living Smith males that I am related to. My >>> g-g-grandmother was Millie Ann Smith, born in KY in 1840 married Thomas >>> Riley III. He died in 1864, a causualty of the Civil War, and his wife >>> Millie died about 16 months later, in 1865. Millie was pregnant with >>> their >>> first child when Thomas was killed by Tinker David Beatys men. The >>> daughter >>> was born May 16, 1864, and named Lodema Thomas Riley. >>> >>> Millie Ann Smith's parents, Isaac Denton Smith and Zerelda Ann Smith, >>> were >>> first cousins, the children of Phillip Smith and Raccoon John Smith, >>> respectively. Phillip moved his family to Fentress County and died >>> here. >>> Millie Ann Smith had a brother, Isaac Woolsey SMith who was a school >>> teacher >>> and superintendent of schools in Pickett County had two daughters. I >>> know of >>> none other of the male children who stayed in either TN or KY. Raccoon >>> John >>> (Elder John Smith) went to MO and died there. Zerelda Ann was his >>> daughter >>> by his first wife. Other children by his first wife were burned to death >>> in >>> a fire in Alabama. He returned to KY and remarried and had other >>> children, >>> but I don't know what happened to them. >>> >>> Anyway, good luck on your project. I am trying to do the same with our >>> Beaty >>> lines who settled in Fentress County. We have a DNA project and I am a >>> donor >>> and have secured the participation of at least four others of different >>> lines that we know are connected, but in a couple of cases, haven't been >>> able to prove it. >>> >>> Willie >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ron Smith" <rsmith0127@yahoo.com> >>> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:20 PM >>> Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] Fentress County Smith Y-DNA Project >>> >>> >>>> Hi Millie and everyone, I hope everyone has a fantastic & blessed >>>> Thanksgiving this week! >>>> As everyone probably knows, we have had a terrible time trying to >>>> separate and identify all the different Smith lines in Fentress County. >>>> Recently, I was contacted by Becky Smith who descends from Matthew >>>> "Mathie" Smith & Ebba ??? who lived in Dist. 11 of Fentress Co. My >>>> g-g-grandfather, George W. Smith and his wife, Judith Garrett also >>>> lived >>>> in Dist. 11 with their family. Dist. 11 was called the "Olympus" area >>>> on >>>> the census' that were taken. I strongly believe these two families may >>>> have been connected because they don't show up in Oma Smith's book with >>>> any amount of mention. Also, because we can't seem to find any records >>>> on >>>> them - Fentress Co. Courthouse burnt down a couple of times - I believe >>>> the only way we can positively identify these and other Smith lines is >>>> to >>>> ask male Smith family members who have researched their families to >>>> participate in a Y-DNA project. >>>> My brother, Scott Smith has already taken and has his Y-DNA posted on >>>> the >>>> Southern Smith's Y-DNA page. There are now well over a hundred other >>>> Smith's that have also tested and posted their family trees. I would >>>> like >>>> to try and organize a 3 county Smith Y-DNA project for males with the >>>> SMITH surname that have ancestors from Fentress, Overton, and Pickett >>>> counties. If you are trying to research the Smith's from any of these >>>> 3 >>>> counties, please contact me at: rsmith0127@yahoo.com >>>> >>>> Please let me know which line you are researching, what county, and who >>>> you might have that would be interested in participating. This project >>>> would only be for male Smith's because the test only checks the Y-DNA >>>> which is carried only by the males of the line. I would suggest a >>>> minimum >>>> 25 marker test because the 12 marker test really doesn't tell much. >>>> Here >>>> is the link to the Southern Smith Reconstruction Project: >>>> >>>> http://www.southernsmiths.org/smithdnaproject.htm >>>> >>>> If you can't participate, but have a father, uncle, brother, or cousin >>>> with the Smith surname, you can submit them if they are willing. You >>>> can >>>> go to the above link for more info. Also, if you go to the "Test >>>> Results" >>>> and look in Haplogroup I, you will see Kit #9011 - George W. Smith, >>>> Fentress Co., TN - this is my brother, Scott's Y-DNA. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== >>>> Do not spam or send derogatory comments to any other subscriber to this >>>> list. >>>> It will happen once and then you will be permanently removed. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== >>> Please do not write your message with CAPS on. It is seen as anger.You >>> may put >>> Surnames in CAPS.Do not send your letter as a Forward and do not send >>> Attachments. Rootsweb Does Not Accept Attachments. >>> >> >> >> ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== >> Please do not write your message with CAPS on. It is seen as anger.You >> may put Surnames in CAPS.Do not send your letter as a Forward and do not >> send Attachments. Rootsweb Does Not Accept Attachments. >> >> > > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Fentress County List has the best, most helpful and friendly people on any > List...You ALL are the greatest..... > To See Previous Posts http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre >

    11/26/2005 01:09:25