Cousin Willie, Always great to hear from you. One of the big reasons I decided to try and put a Y-DNA project together for the Smith's of Fentress, Overton, and Pickett counties was because of the success the Beaty Y-DNA Project was having in identifying and sorting through all those rascally Beatys. :o) My grandmother was a Beaty and I'm in group L2E, which has changed a lot since the DNA testing began a couple of years ago. The testing has certainly straightened out a lot of erroneous info in the Beaty lines. I'm hoping to do the same thing with the Smith's. Willie, could you send me your Smith info on Raccoon John Smith? I'd certainly appreciate it since I don't have it in my database. I've got most of the other John's - Hog, Honey, Booher, Leggs, etc. I need to add Raccoon to my collection. BTW, do you know Conley Beaty? Conley is my 1st cousin, once removed. Conley was my grandmother, Viola Beaty's nephew. He was the son of Virgil Beaty & Bertha Mae Turner. Anyway, if there's anyone else out there that knows of a male Smith from Fentress, Overton, or Pickett counties that is researching the Smith's please contact me. Hope everyone has a safe and blessed Thanksgiving! Ron Smith Spokane, WA Ron, I am following with interest your efforts to sort out the SMITHS of Fentress County. I would be glad to help, but my SMith connection is four generations back and I really know no living Smith males that I am related to. My g-g-grandmother was Millie Ann Smith, born in KY in 1840 married Thomas Riley III. He died in 1864, a causualty of the Civil War, and his wife Millie died about 16 months later, in 1865. Millie was pregnant with their first child when Thomas was killed by Tinker David Beatys men. The daughter was born May 16, 1864, and named Lodema Thomas Riley. Millie Ann Smith's parents, Isaac Denton Smith and Zerelda Ann Smith, were first cousins, the children of Phillip Smith and Raccoon John Smith, respectively. Phillip moved his family to Fentress County and died here. Millie Ann Smith had a brother, Isaac Woolsey SMith who was a school teacher and superintendent of schools in Pickett County had two daughters. I know of none other of the male children who stayed in either TN or KY. Raccoon John (Elder John Smith) went to MO and died there. Zerelda Ann was his daughter by his first wife. Other children by his first wife were burned to death in a fire in Alabama. He returned to KY and remarried and had other children, but I don't know what happened to them. Anyway, good luck on your project. I am trying to do the same with our Beaty lines who settled in Fentress County. We have a DNA project and I am a donor and have secured the participation of at least four others of different lines that we know are connected, but in a couple of cases, haven't been able to prove it. Willie

There is a Stephens/Stevens Y DNA study: http://dnastudy.baileyconnection.com/stephenshome.htm I will pay for a 12 marker Y DNA test of a Stephens male who has a verifiable descent from Zorababel Stephens of SC, Whitley Co., KY, Overton and Fentress Co.s, TN. Thanks, Steven C. Perkins

Ron, There is Wilbur C. Smith of Monroe, Overton County. He is from the Jourden Smith line. His research hits a stone wall about 1805. He has the family Bible, but not much else. His telephone number is 931-823-4475. He has written a book about his ancestry. The title is Wilbur's Tales. The family does not seem to be related to the other Smiths in the area. Gary D. Norris > From: Ron Smith <rsmith0127@yahoo.com> > Reply-To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:16:34 -0800 (PST) > To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] Fentress County Smith's Y-DNA Project > Resent-From: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 01:16:40 -0700 > > Cousin Willie, > Always great to hear from you. One of the big reasons I decided to try and > put a Y-DNA project together for the Smith's of Fentress, Overton, and Pickett > counties was because of the success the Beaty Y-DNA Project was having in > identifying and sorting through all those rascally Beatys. :o) My > grandmother was a Beaty and I'm in group L2E, which has changed a lot since > the DNA testing began a couple of years ago. The testing has certainly > straightened out a lot of erroneous info in the Beaty lines. I'm hoping to do > the same thing with the Smith's. > Willie, could you send me your Smith info on Raccoon John Smith? I'd > certainly appreciate it since I don't have it in my database. I've got most > of the other John's - Hog, Honey, Booher, Leggs, etc. I need to add Raccoon > to my collection. > BTW, do you know Conley Beaty? Conley is my 1st cousin, once removed. Conley > was my grandmother, Viola Beaty's nephew. He was the son of Virgil Beaty & > Bertha Mae Turner. > Anyway, if there's anyone else out there that knows of a male Smith from > Fentress, Overton, or Pickett counties that is researching the Smith's please > contact me. > > Hope everyone has a safe and blessed Thanksgiving! > > Ron Smith > Spokane, WA > > > Ron, > > I am following with interest your efforts to sort out the SMITHS of Fentress > County. I would be glad to help, but my SMith connection is four generations > back and I really know no living Smith males that I am related to. My > g-g-grandmother was Millie Ann Smith, born in KY in 1840 married Thomas Riley > III. He died in 1864, a causualty of the Civil War, and his wife Millie died > about 16 months later, in 1865. Millie was pregnant with their first child > when Thomas was killed by Tinker David Beatys men. The daughter was born May > 16, 1864, and named Lodema Thomas Riley. > > Millie Ann Smith's parents, Isaac Denton Smith and Zerelda Ann Smith, were > first cousins, the children of Phillip Smith and Raccoon John Smith, > respectively. Phillip moved his family to Fentress County and died here. > Millie Ann Smith had a brother, Isaac Woolsey SMith who was a school teacher > and superintendent of schools in Pickett County had two daughters. I know of > none other of the male children who stayed in either TN or KY. Raccoon John > (Elder John Smith) went to MO and died there. Zerelda Ann was his daughter by > his first wife. Other children by his first wife were burned to death in a > fire in Alabama. He returned to KY and remarried and had other children, but I > don't know what happened to them. > > Anyway, good luck on your project. I am trying to do the same with our Beaty > lines who settled in Fentress County. We have a DNA project and I am a donor > and have secured the participation of at least four others of different lines > that we know are connected, but in a couple of cases, haven't been able to > prove it. > > Willie > > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Do not spam or send derogatory comments to any other subscriber to this list. > It will happen once and then you will be permanently removed. >

Ron, Did you get the file on Raccoon John Smith? I think my whole Koger-Smith database was attached. Yes, the Beaty Lineage has been busted up, but I'm not convinced that we have it right yet. I think there is a long way to go before DNA will offer us the ansswers we want, but it certainly is a good approach, and has been helpful in giving us some hints and "probablilities" about just how recent (if at all) some of the lineage 2 Beatys have a common ancestor. There are about 14 L2 Beatys that have exact matches at 12 markers, but fewer at 25 and only two at 37, I believe. It's been a little while since I checked over that, but that is my memory. Anyway, I hope it does for you all that you are expecting. No, I don't know Conley Beaty. Is he still living, and where does he live? Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Smith" <rsmith0127@yahoo.com> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:16 AM Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] Fentress County Smith's Y-DNA Project > Cousin Willie, > Always great to hear from you. One of the big reasons I decided to try > and put a Y-DNA project together for the Smith's of Fentress, Overton, and > Pickett counties was because of the success the Beaty Y-DNA Project was > having in identifying and sorting through all those rascally Beatys. :o) > My grandmother was a Beaty and I'm in group L2E, which has changed a lot > since the DNA testing began a couple of years ago. The testing has > certainly straightened out a lot of erroneous info in the Beaty lines. > I'm hoping to do the same thing with the Smith's. > Willie, could you send me your Smith info on Raccoon John Smith? I'd > certainly appreciate it since I don't have it in my database. I've got > most of the other John's - Hog, Honey, Booher, Leggs, etc. I need to add > Raccoon to my collection. > BTW, do you know Conley Beaty? Conley is my 1st cousin, once removed. > Conley was my grandmother, Viola Beaty's nephew. He was the son of Virgil > Beaty & Bertha Mae Turner. > Anyway, if there's anyone else out there that knows of a male Smith from > Fentress, Overton, or Pickett counties that is researching the Smith's > please contact me. > > Hope everyone has a safe and blessed Thanksgiving! > > Ron Smith > Spokane, WA > > > Ron, > > I am following with interest your efforts to sort out the SMITHS of > Fentress County. I would be glad to help, but my SMith connection is four > generations back and I really know no living Smith males that I am related > to. My g-g-grandmother was Millie Ann Smith, born in KY in 1840 married > Thomas Riley III. He died in 1864, a causualty of the Civil War, and his > wife Millie died about 16 months later, in 1865. Millie was pregnant with > their first child when Thomas was killed by Tinker David Beatys men. The > daughter was born May 16, 1864, and named Lodema Thomas Riley. > > Millie Ann Smith's parents, Isaac Denton Smith and Zerelda Ann Smith, were > first cousins, the children of Phillip Smith and Raccoon John Smith, > respectively. Phillip moved his family to Fentress County and died here. > Millie Ann Smith had a brother, Isaac Woolsey SMith who was a school > teacher > and superintendent of schools in Pickett County had two daughters. I know > of none other of the male children who stayed in either TN or KY. Raccoon > John (Elder John Smith) went to MO and died there. Zerelda Ann was his > daughter by his first wife. Other children by his first wife were burned > to death in a fire in Alabama. He returned to KY and remarried and had > other children, but I don't know what happened to them. > > Anyway, good luck on your project. I am trying to do the same with our > Beaty lines who settled in Fentress County. We have a DNA project and I am > a donor and have secured the participation of at least four others of > different lines that we know are connected, but in a couple of cases, > haven't been able to prove it. > > Willie > > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Do not spam or send derogatory comments to any other subscriber to this > list. > It will happen once and then you will be permanently removed. > >