Wilma, I'll forward your questions about Odie to my brother and have him check with mom. I may have transposed the death date and made 1945 into 1954. I don't have a source for that date. Also, I didn't see his grave at the Wolf River Cemetery, but I only recorded 47 Delk's or Delk spouses when I visited there several years ago and there are probably many many more. I have several dates for James Alfred Delk. His birth must have been in 1859 (rather than 1856) because he was 1 on the 1860 census and 11 on the 1870 census. His death may have been in 1924, 1927 or 1929. I haven't found any records to confirm when. The dates on his tombstone were provided long after his death, I think by his younger children: Zelma, Edna, Hazel, Elsie and Bill. Clark Fulton -----Original Message----- From: Wlcrab@aol.com [mailto:Wlcrab@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:30 PM To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] ODIE HOLLAND DELK Clark I knew he lived in PA at one time and was married there. Do you know if he had more than one wife? On the death date, Gary Norris Cemetery book says he died June 1, 1945 and is buried at Wolf River Cemetery. I have the same dates you do for his birth and the 1900 census bear that out the best I recall. Mustard Gas is all I have ever heard of, my mothers brother was gassed when he was over there and it killed him too, but he didn't live as long as Odie, my uncle died in 1931. Was Odie called Hollens/Holland Delk? I think I have heard my dad and uncle speak of a Hollands Delk. I have James A. Delk died at 79 years of age, for his dates I have June 7, 1856 d. November 15, 1929, is the dates you have? I think I got my dates from Zelma. Wilma Gibson ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== Does Anyone Ever Read the Taglines ??? Just Curious..Also, Please change your Subject Line. We all tend to forget that.Self included. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre

Wilma, Mom says that he was gassed during WWI and it did bother him afterwards. I don't know which gas he was exposed to. Have you looked for an obit in any Pittsburgh area papers? I believe he lived there in 1930. I'm not sure if he moved back to Jamestown before he died, but he is buried in Jamestown. I have him born in 1895 (his WWI draft registration says 1896) and he died in 1954, which would make him about 59. His father, James Alfred, died at about 68 (by my dates). Clark Fulton

Clark I remember thinking about these dates and like you I had the census to go on first and James was younger than John, and I had it that way on my charts, then Zelma sent me his dates in 1972, maybe it should have been 1859 not 1856, but the dates I sent you, was what she sent me, I still have her letter. Maybe we will get this strighten out in time. Thanks to Gary Norris for the information on Odie Delks military service. Wilma

Clark I think James A. Delk would have been 73 years old not 79, sorry. Wilma

Clark I knew he lived in PA at one time and was married there. Do you know if he had more than one wife? On the death date, Gary Norris Cemetery book says he died June 1, 1945 and is buried at Wolf River Cemetery. I have the same dates you do for his birth and the 1900 census bear that out the best I recall. Mustard Gas is all I have ever heard of, my mothers brother was gassed when he was over there and it killed him too, but he didn't live as long as Odie, my uncle died in 1931. Was Odie called Hollens/Holland Delk? I think I have heard my dad and uncle speak of a Hollands Delk. I have James A. Delk died at 79 years of age, for his dates I have June 7, 1856 d. November 15, 1929, is the dates you have? I think I got my dates from Zelma. Wilma Gibson

Clark Thank you for answering, do you know anything about his death? He died at age 50 and one has to wonder if he might have been gassed WWI, and this could have resulted in health issues. I looked for his death notice and wouldn't you know they had no newspaper in Fentress Co. at the time of his death. Luther York had been called into the military and the paper wasn't published for about three or four years. Wilma

Anna, thanks for answering the question about flower girls. The customer was not limited to African-Americans. My mom (who grew up in East Tennessee) was a flower girl many times in her childhood. -- Janet Gecowets ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anna Bertram" <abertram@heartoftn.net> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] Flower Girls - Not Genealogy but Custom > Willie, > > I live in Middle Tennessee and have heard of the term Flower Girl in > regards to black funerals. I suppose white people can have them too. A > co-worker told me it was an honor to be asked to serve as a flower girl. > In her church or community the flower girls dressed in fancy white dresses > and were part of the funeral procession. From the time the body was laid > in state they were in charge of receiving the floral arrangements and > placing them around the casket. They did the same at the church before the > funeral, and again at the place of burial. They also recorded the flowers > and plants received in the funeral memories book for the bereaved to keep. > > Anna Bertram

Thanks Ann! Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anna Bertram" <abertram@heartoftn.net> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] Flower Girls - Not Genealogy but Custom > Willie, > > I live in Middle Tennessee and have heard of the term Flower Girl in > regards to black funerals. I suppose white people can have them too. A > co-worker told me it was an honor to be asked to serve as a flower girl. > In her church or community the flower girls dressed in fancy white dresses > and were part of the funeral procession. From the time the body was laid > in state they were in charge of receiving the floral arrangements and > placing them around the casket. They did the same at the church before the > funeral, and again at the place of burial. They also recorded the flowers > and plants received in the funeral memories book for the bereaved to keep. > > Anna Bertram > abertram@heartoftn.net > Phone 615-765-5357 > Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate. > --Anonymous > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Willie R Beaty > To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Matildia Ann Wood > > > Well, I've seen something new in the obit below. I have never heard of > the > term "flower girls" when applied to a funeral. Does anyone know if this > was > an old custom, or what flower girls did? > > Willie > > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Do not spam or send derogatory comments to any other subscriber to this > list. > It will happen once and then you will be permanently removed. > >

I would have gone along with that idea. Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anna Bertram" <abertram@heartoftn.net> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] Flower Girls - Not Genealogy but Custom > Willie, > > I live in Middle Tennessee and have heard of the term Flower Girl in > regards to black funerals. I suppose white people can have them too. A > co-worker told me it was an honor to be asked to serve as a flower girl. > In her church or community the flower girls dressed in fancy white dresses > and were part of the funeral procession. From the time the body was laid > in state they were in charge of receiving the floral arrangements and > placing them around the casket. They did the same at the church before the > funeral, and again at the place of burial. They also recorded the flowers > and plants received in the funeral memories book for the bereaved to keep. > > Anna Bertram > abertram@heartoftn.net > Phone 615-765-5357 > Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate. > --Anonymous > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Willie R Beaty > To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Matildia Ann Wood > > > Well, I've seen something new in the obit below. I have never heard of > the > term "flower girls" when applied to a funeral. Does anyone know if this > was > an old custom, or what flower girls did? > > Willie > > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Do not spam or send derogatory comments to any other subscriber to this > list. > It will happen once and then you will be permanently removed. > >

Four and a half years of owning a flower shop, no flower girls. Oh well! Thelma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie R Beaty" <wbeaty@twlakes.net> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Matildia Ann Wood Well, I've seen something new in the obit below. I have never heard of the term "flower girls" when applied to a funeral. Does anyone know if this was an old custom, or what flower girls did? Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wlcrab@aol.com> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:06 AM Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] Matildia Ann Wood >I found this obituary in a Fentress Co., TN paper and it had information in > it about the WOOD family, for those who are interested in this family. I > do > not have any other information. > > Matildia Ann WOOD b. November 10, 1869 d. April 4, 1948 m/1 Robert G. > GILLINTINE June 8, 1969 to this union was born Mary Ann and Nina > GILLINTINE. Mr. > GILLINTINE died December 11, 1901. Nina who married J. R. SELLS d. March > 11, > 1920 on her 20th birthday. > > Matildia m/2 December 3, 1909 John W. CROUCH, to this union was born Earl > and > Jewell CROUCH. Mr. CROUCH d. February 3, 1918. His son Elmore and Mrs. > Sarah MOODY CROUCH felt that they had a home with their step-mother. > > Matildia was a daughter of Pleasant and Nancy MOODY WOOD was the eldest > of > seven children. Johnny the 2nd child and Mrs. Abbie CROUCH the youngest > were > with her the day of her passing, but Mrs. Sophia WOOD GILLINTIN, Gordon > and > Bates WOOD and Mrs. Kate WOOD CROUCH all preceded her in death. > She professed faith in Christ at an early age. > Her 22 grandchildren and 12 g-grandchildren often visited her. Her > children Mrs. Mary STORIE Earl CROUCH and Mrs. Jewell LOWERY of Muncie, IN > were > with her during her sickness. > > Funeral services were conducted for Mrs. Matildia CROUCH at Greer’s Chapel > Methodist Church, Monday with Rev. Charles STEPHENS in charge of the > service. > Burial was in the Greer’s Chapel Cemetery with LOOPER & QUALLS in charge > of > arrangements. > Pall bears were: Willard CROUCH, Norman WOOD, Prentice WOOD, Herbert > GILLINTINE, Ernest BUCK, and Pete JENNINGS. > Flower girls were: Ellen BARTON, Lois NEAL, Margaret NEAL, Magalene > UPCHURCH, Wilma UPCHURCH, Joyce NEAL, Jo Nelda UPCHURCH and Betty Gene > UPCHURCH. > UPPER CUMBERLAND TIME 4-8-1948 p. col. 6 > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Fentress County List has the best, most helpful and friendly people on any > List...You ALL are the greatest..... > To See Previous Posts http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== Check Out Fentress County Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre

Willie, Here is a list of the mills I have found in various records to date. It is by no means a complete list. Eaton Mill in the Roslin area in 1902 Fritsche & Sons burned early in 1904. Located about 1 mile east of Allardt. Isaac U. Howard in District 3 during 1910. John Wright in District 11 during 1860. David F. Wright in District 2 during 1860. Joseph Miller in Distrct 6 during 1860. Isaac Robbins in District 6 during 1860. Old Paul Mill Site mentioned at Armathwaite during 1910. I hope this is a start for your project. I will bring the mill stone as time for the roundup approaches. Gary D. Norris

Anna, What a lovely and thoughtful custom!

Willie, I live in Middle Tennessee and have heard of the term Flower Girl in regards to black funerals. I suppose white people can have them too. A co-worker told me it was an honor to be asked to serve as a flower girl. In her church or community the flower girls dressed in fancy white dresses and were part of the funeral procession. From the time the body was laid in state they were in charge of receiving the floral arrangements and placing them around the casket. They did the same at the church before the funeral, and again at the place of burial. They also recorded the flowers and plants received in the funeral memories book for the bereaved to keep. Anna Bertram abertram@heartoftn.net Phone 615-765-5357 Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate. --Anonymous ----- Original Message ----- From: Willie R Beaty To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Matildia Ann Wood Well, I've seen something new in the obit below. I have never heard of the term "flower girls" when applied to a funeral. Does anyone know if this was an old custom, or what flower girls did? Willie

My sister, cousin, and I were "flower girls" at my grandfather's funeral back in 1961. This was a very rural area and the only thing provided by the funeral home was the hearse. The job of the flower girls was to take the flowers from the church to the hearse (and other cars if they didn't all fit in the hearse with the body), and, at the cemetery, to take the flowers from the hearse to the gravesite. I remember it clearly because it was Dec. 22 in the WV mountains; there was about 8" of snow; I fell more than once going up the very steep mountainside to the family cemetery. I ruined a pair of pantyhose and had two bloody knees as the result of this "honor." Willie R Beaty <wbeaty@twlakes.net> wrote: Well, I've seen something new in the obit below. I have never heard of the term "flower girls" when applied to a funeral. Does anyone know if this was an old custom, or what flower girls did? Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:06 AM Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] Matildia Ann Wood >I found this obituary in a Fentress Co., TN paper and it had information in > it about the WOOD family, for those who are interested in this family. I > do > not have any other information. > > Matildia Ann WOOD b. November 10, 1869 d. April 4, 1948 m/1 Robert G. > GILLINTINE June 8, 1969 to this union was born Mary Ann and Nina > GILLINTINE. Mr. > GILLINTINE died December 11, 1901. Nina who married J. R. SELLS d. March > 11, > 1920 on her 20th birthday. > > Matildia m/2 December 3, 1909 John W. CROUCH, to this union was born Earl > and > Jewell CROUCH. Mr. CROUCH d. February 3, 1918. His son Elmore and Mrs. > Sarah MOODY CROUCH felt that they had a home with their step-mother. > > Matildia was a daughter of Pleasant and Nancy MOODY WOOD was the eldest > of > seven children. Johnny the 2nd child and Mrs. Abbie CROUCH the youngest > were > with her the day of her passing, but Mrs. Sophia WOOD GILLINTIN, Gordon > and > Bates WOOD and Mrs. Kate WOOD CROUCH all preceded her in death. > She professed faith in Christ at an early age. > Her 22 grandchildren and 12 g-grandchildren often visited her. Her > children Mrs. Mary STORIE Earl CROUCH and Mrs. Jewell LOWERY of Muncie, IN > were > with her during her sickness. > > Funeral services were conducted for Mrs. Matildia CROUCH at Greer’s Chapel > Methodist Church, Monday with Rev. Charles STEPHENS in charge of the > service. > Burial was in the Greer’s Chapel Cemetery with LOOPER & QUALLS in charge > of > arrangements. > Pall bears were: Willard CROUCH, Norman WOOD, Prentice WOOD, Herbert > GILLINTINE, Ernest BUCK, and Pete JENNINGS. > Flower girls were: Ellen BARTON, Lois NEAL, Margaret NEAL, Magalene > UPCHURCH, Wilma UPCHURCH, Joyce NEAL, Jo Nelda UPCHURCH and Betty Gene > UPCHURCH. > UPPER CUMBERLAND TIME 4-8-1948 p. col. 6 > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Fentress County List has the best, most helpful and friendly people on any > List...You ALL are the greatest..... > To See Previous Posts http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== Check Out Fentress County Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre B Kukla Old age ain't no place for sissies. -Bette Davis- --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail.

Well, I've seen something new in the obit below. I have never heard of the term "flower girls" when applied to a funeral. Does anyone know if this was an old custom, or what flower girls did? Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Wlcrab@aol.com> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:06 AM Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] Matildia Ann Wood >I found this obituary in a Fentress Co., TN paper and it had information in > it about the WOOD family, for those who are interested in this family. I > do > not have any other information. > > Matildia Ann WOOD b. November 10, 1869 d. April 4, 1948 m/1 Robert G. > GILLINTINE June 8, 1969 to this union was born Mary Ann and Nina > GILLINTINE. Mr. > GILLINTINE died December 11, 1901. Nina who married J. R. SELLS d. March > 11, > 1920 on her 20th birthday. > > Matildia m/2 December 3, 1909 John W. CROUCH, to this union was born Earl > and > Jewell CROUCH. Mr. CROUCH d. February 3, 1918. His son Elmore and Mrs. > Sarah MOODY CROUCH felt that they had a home with their step-mother. > > Matildia was a daughter of Pleasant and Nancy MOODY WOOD was the eldest > of > seven children. Johnny the 2nd child and Mrs. Abbie CROUCH the youngest > were > with her the day of her passing, but Mrs. Sophia WOOD GILLINTIN, Gordon > and > Bates WOOD and Mrs. Kate WOOD CROUCH all preceded her in death. > She professed faith in Christ at an early age. > Her 22 grandchildren and 12 g-grandchildren often visited her. Her > children Mrs. Mary STORIE Earl CROUCH and Mrs. Jewell LOWERY of Muncie, IN > were > with her during her sickness. > > Funeral services were conducted for Mrs. Matildia CROUCH at Greer’s Chapel > Methodist Church, Monday with Rev. Charles STEPHENS in charge of the > service. > Burial was in the Greer’s Chapel Cemetery with LOOPER & QUALLS in charge > of > arrangements. > Pall bears were: Willard CROUCH, Norman WOOD, Prentice WOOD, Herbert > GILLINTINE, Ernest BUCK, and Pete JENNINGS. > Flower girls were: Ellen BARTON, Lois NEAL, Margaret NEAL, Magalene > UPCHURCH, Wilma UPCHURCH, Joyce NEAL, Jo Nelda UPCHURCH and Betty Gene > UPCHURCH. > UPPER CUMBERLAND TIME 4-8-1948 p. col. 6 > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Fentress County List has the best, most helpful and friendly people on any > List...You ALL are the greatest..... > To See Previous Posts http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre > >

I found this obituary in a Fentress Co., TN paper and it had information in it about the WOOD family, for those who are interested in this family. I do not have any other information. Matildia Ann WOOD b. November 10, 1869 d. April 4, 1948 m/1 Robert G. GILLINTINE June 8, 1969 to this union was born Mary Ann and Nina GILLINTINE. Mr. GILLINTINE died December 11, 1901. Nina who married J. R. SELLS d. March 11, 1920 on her 20th birthday. Matildia m/2 December 3, 1909 John W. CROUCH, to this union was born Earl and Jewell CROUCH. Mr. CROUCH d. February 3, 1918. His son Elmore and Mrs. Sarah MOODY CROUCH felt that they had a home with their step-mother. Matildia was a daughter of Pleasant and Nancy MOODY WOOD was the eldest of seven children. Johnny the 2nd child and Mrs. Abbie CROUCH the youngest were with her the day of her passing, but Mrs. Sophia WOOD GILLINTIN, Gordon and Bates WOOD and Mrs. Kate WOOD CROUCH all preceded her in death. She professed faith in Christ at an early age. Her 22 grandchildren and 12 g-grandchildren often visited her. Her children Mrs. Mary STORIE Earl CROUCH and Mrs. Jewell LOWERY of Muncie, IN were with her during her sickness. Funeral services were conducted for Mrs. Matildia CROUCH at Greer’s Chapel Methodist Church, Monday with Rev. Charles STEPHENS in charge of the service. Burial was in the Greer’s Chapel Cemetery with LOOPER & QUALLS in charge of arrangements. Pall bears were: Willard CROUCH, Norman WOOD, Prentice WOOD, Herbert GILLINTINE, Ernest BUCK, and Pete JENNINGS. Flower girls were: Ellen BARTON, Lois NEAL, Margaret NEAL, Magalene UPCHURCH, Wilma UPCHURCH, Joyce NEAL, Jo Nelda UPCHURCH and Betty Gene UPCHURCH. UPPER CUMBERLAND TIME 4-8-1948 p. col. 6

Pat, Louvain is along the south side of the road from Pall Mall to Pickett State Park. The old railroad line was on the north side of the road. I am not sure if the community was named for a lady or the Belgium village that the German soldiers completely wiped out in 1914. Gary > From: Ronpat158@aol.com > Reply-To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:37:24 EST > To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] Questions > Resent-From: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:37:36 -0700 > > Gary, > > Just received a copy of death cert. and part of it is hard to read, do you > know if there is Louvain or Lowain area? Also on the burial it looks like > Btuion C wondering if this might be Mt. Union Cem. any help appreciated. > > Thanks Pat > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Milly Piros, List Administrator > Any problems contact me MPiros1120@aol.com > To See Previous Posts > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre >

Gary, Just received a copy of death cert. and part of it is hard to read, do you know if there is Louvain or Lowain area? Also on the burial it looks like Btuion C wondering if this might be Mt. Union Cem. any help appreciated. Thanks Pat

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