JW, Joel 1807 only had one son John Calvin Reagan, he died during the Civil War. Not sure why he isn't in the 1840 census or maybe I have overlooked him. Pat

JW, Do you know the names of his other children? If so will go into ancestry and see if I can find him maybe the last name is spelled differently. Looked once and nothing came up, but will try again. Pat

-----Original Message----- From: TNFENTRE-D-request@rootsweb.com To: TNFENTRE-D@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:00 AM Subject: TNFENTRE-D Digest V06 #158 Content-Type: text/plain TNFENTRE-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 158 Today's Topics: #1 RE: [TNFENTRE-L] CRABTREE-HELM ["J GROSS" <aj12x12@msn.com>] #2 Books [MPiros1120@aol.com] #3 Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Caleb Reagan ["james garrett" <jwgarrett@webtv.n] #4 Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Caleb Reagan [Ronpat158@aol.com] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from TNFENTRE-D, send a message to TNFENTRE-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________ X-Message: #1 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 09:17:37 -0700 From: "J GROSS" <aj12x12@msn.com> To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY103-F15E10FED6257C9EAD47ED0B6630@phx.gbl> Subject: RE: [TNFENTRE-L] CRABTREE-HELM Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I tried to order books listed on the Fentress County page. My checks were returned with a note that the Hogue books and the Wilma Pinckley books were no longer available. Should these be removed from the site? ______________________________ X-Message: #2 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:53:37 EDT From: MPiros1120@aol.com To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <501.3a0c4c3.31ee6c11@aol.com> Subject: Books Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" aj12x12@msn.com You should email Myra Smith at the address below and let her know. She is the Historical Society's Vice President genie2_38556@yahoo.com Milly WARD Piros My Mind is Like Lightning.... One Brilliant Flash and It's Gone....... ______________________________ X-Message: #3 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 02:18:56 GMT From: "james garrett" <jwgarrett@webtv.net> To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <20060719021856.88DA62A982@smtpout-3203.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Caleb Reagan Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Pat, According to 1810 Wilkes and 1820 Overton, Peter Jr had 4 sons b. before 1820 instead of 5. So one of the 5 sons that have been listed for Joel Jr. belong to either Joel or Charles Reagan. Queston is who? I think Charles b 1778 had the son Charles b. abt 1800. Not sure abt who the other 2 sons were b. 1804-10. In regards to Wm "Billy" Reagan, I note that he is listed on 1830 Fentress Co census, apparently just married, no children yet. He had to be at least 21 by 1830, therefore his BD was abt 1809, not 1811. The census indicates he was b. 1801-1810. Also I note that you had him to be md to a Mary "Mollie" Beaty. I know know who the ? Reagan is of 1880 Fentress. He was b. 1808/09 and md to a "Mollie". He is Wm "Billy"Reagan. What still concerns me more is the BD of Samuel Reagan. Either 1791-1800 according to 1840 Fentress, or abt 1810/11 according to 1850 Overton and 1860 Fentress. Are there 1 or 2 Samuel Reagans? Another question? To whom did Larkin Reagan Marry? Was it Mary Bookout? I find him in 1840 Fentress, but cannot locate him afterwads. He had a daughter, Anna who married in MO. I wonder if Joel Reagan moved there after 1840? JW Garrett -----Original Message----- From: Ronpat158@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:58 PM To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Caleb Reagan Hi JW, I have the same sons for Peter Jr. that you do, 1. Caleb Lindsey Reagan b. 1801 Wilkes Co. marr. Susan D. (possibly Findley) 2. John Reagan (my line) b. 08 Feb. 1802 marr. Nancy Findley 3. Charles Reagan b. 04 June 1803 marr. Lavinia Mace 4. Elizabeth Reagan b. 1805 marr. Joshua Storie 5. Joel Lucy Reagan b. 1807 marr. Margaret Pennycuff 6. Wm. "Billy" Reagan b. 1811 marr. Mary "Molly" Beaty I think this is the only sons he had, but there is still a daughter out there and maybe 2. Believe your right with Joel having sons Samuel, Larkin and Thomas, think it possible one of the sons could have passed away? If the genealogy on Charles Reagan from VA is correct then the Charles in the Overton census belongs to that line. Don't know who the M. is not sure I have seen it. Is it in Fentress? If so that could be the son of Joel's you are looking for. Joel Lucy only had one son John Calvin b. abt 1830 and died during the Civil War. Hope this helps. Have some land record information that might be of help to you, but they are long and if its ok will send information to your e-mail address. Please let me know your thoughts on this. Pat ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== Do not spam or send derogatory comments to any other subscriber to this list. It will happen once and then you will be permanently removed. ______________________________ X-Message: #4 Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:43:42 EDT From: Ronpat158@aol.com To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <3ae.64e47df.31ef046e@aol.com> Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Caleb Reagan Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi JW, I have not found Peter Jr. in the census before 1820 Overton, so really not sure how many sons he might have had. As to Wm. "Billy" mentioned before some researchers think he was not the son of Peter Jr. my information on him came from a gentleman in TX who is a descendant of Wm. I am not sure we will every find out the birth dates of our ancestors, unless someone should have their family bible with dates. Joel first shows 2 sons in 1810 so would assume Samuel & Larkin were born between 1800 and 1810. As for 2 Samuel's don't know of any other besides your Jacob Samuel who evidently went by his middle name. I do not know who Larkin married, like you have not found him after 1840 census. I had seen a reference to Mary Bookout before, but don't remember if it was marriage to Larkin. Which Joel are you referring to Joel Lucy son of Peter or another one? Joel Lucy that married Margaret Pennycuff stayed in Fentress and they are buried in Joel Lucy Reagan/Joel Hinds Cem. in Upper Crab Creek. The Anna you speak of is this a daughter of Larkin? Or the daughter of Wm. "Billy"? Pat ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.

Pat, According to 1810 Wilkes and 1820 Overton, Peter Jr had 4 sons b. before 1820 instead of 5. So one of the 5 sons that have been listed for Joel Jr. belong to either Joel or Charles Reagan. Queston is who? I think Charles b 1778 had the son Charles b. abt 1800. Not sure abt who the other 2 sons were b. 1804-10. In regards to Wm "Billy" Reagan, I note that he is listed on 1830 Fentress Co census, apparently just married, no children yet. He had to be at least 21 by 1830, therefore his BD was abt 1809, not 1811. The census indicates he was b. 1801-1810. Also I note that you had him to be md to a Mary "Mollie" Beaty. I know know who the ? Reagan is of 1880 Fentress. He was b. 1808/09 and md to a "Mollie". He is Wm "Billy"Reagan. What still concerns me more is the BD of Samuel Reagan. Either 1791-1800 according to 1840 Fentress, or abt 1810/11 according to 1850 Overton and 1860 Fentress. Are there 1 or 2 Samuel Reagans? Another question? To whom did Larkin Reagan Marry? Was it Mary Bookout? I find him in 1840 Fentress, but cannot locate him afterwads. He had a daughter, Anna who married in MO. I wonder if Joel Reagan moved there after 1840? JW Garrett -----Original Message----- From: Ronpat158@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 11:58 PM To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Caleb Reagan Hi JW, I have the same sons for Peter Jr. that you do, 1. Caleb Lindsey Reagan b. 1801 Wilkes Co. marr. Susan D. (possibly Findley) 2. John Reagan (my line) b. 08 Feb. 1802 marr. Nancy Findley 3. Charles Reagan b. 04 June 1803 marr. Lavinia Mace 4. Elizabeth Reagan b. 1805 marr. Joshua Storie 5. Joel Lucy Reagan b. 1807 marr. Margaret Pennycuff 6. Wm. "Billy" Reagan b. 1811 marr. Mary "Molly" Beaty I think this is the only sons he had, but there is still a daughter out there and maybe 2. Believe your right with Joel having sons Samuel, Larkin and Thomas, think it possible one of the sons could have passed away? If the genealogy on Charles Reagan from VA is correct then the Charles in the Overton census belongs to that line. Don't know who the M. is not sure I have seen it. Is it in Fentress? If so that could be the son of Joel's you are looking for. Joel Lucy only had one son John Calvin b. abt 1830 and died during the Civil War. Hope this helps. Have some land record information that might be of help to you, but they are long and if its ok will send information to your e-mail address. Please let me know your thoughts on this. Pat ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== Do not spam or send derogatory comments to any other subscriber to this list. It will happen once and then you will be permanently removed.

Hi JW, I have not found Peter Jr. in the census before 1820 Overton, so really not sure how many sons he might have had. As to Wm. "Billy" mentioned before some researchers think he was not the son of Peter Jr. my information on him came from a gentleman in TX who is a descendant of Wm. I am not sure we will every find out the birth dates of our ancestors, unless someone should have their family bible with dates. Joel first shows 2 sons in 1810 so would assume Samuel & Larkin were born between 1800 and 1810. As for 2 Samuel's don't know of any other besides your Jacob Samuel who evidently went by his middle name. I do not know who Larkin married, like you have not found him after 1840 census. I had seen a reference to Mary Bookout before, but don't remember if it was marriage to Larkin. Which Joel are you referring to Joel Lucy son of Peter or another one? Joel Lucy that married Margaret Pennycuff stayed in Fentress and they are buried in Joel Lucy Reagan/Joel Hinds Cem. in Upper Crab Creek. The Anna you speak of is this a daughter of Larkin? Or the daughter of Wm. "Billy"? Pat

aj12x12@msn.com You should email Myra Smith at the address below and let her know. She is the Historical Society's Vice President genie2_38556@yahoo.com Milly WARD Piros My Mind is Like Lightning.... One Brilliant Flash and It's Gone.......

My address is Jill Hicks 1107 N. Balsam Dr. Muncie, In. 47304.

I have several pics of various Beatys in the hard back book, yes I do my own printing and binding, so I can print the books as people want them. Beaty Book price is 40.00, which includes shipping. Jill

I tried to order books listed on the Fentress County page. My checks were returned with a note that the Hogue books and the Wilma Pinckley books were no longer available. Should these be removed from the site?

Jill, What is your mailing address to send for a copy of your book. Patty ----- Original Message ----- From: <MZKITEY1@aol.com> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Hiram Cyrus Beaty, Sr. > I have several pics of various Beatys in the hard back book, yes I do my own > printing and binding, so I can print the books as people want them. Beaty > Book price is 40.00, which includes shipping. > > Jill > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > VERY IMPORTANT************** To Unsubscribe, send E-Mail to TNFENTRE-L-request@rootsweb.com (For Single Messages) or TNFENTRE-D-request@rootsweb.com (For Digest Mode)and put unsubscribe > >

Willie, Thanks so much. Fonzie may have been in Pickett Co. If she lived in Fentress, she was very close to the county line. I think her arrangements were at a Pickett Co. mortuary. You may already know that she was the daughter of my grandmother's sister--my grandmother being Bill Buffalo's wife. Gerri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie R Beaty" <wbeaty@twlakes.net> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] obit for fonzie beaty story > Gerri, > > I will send you Fonzie Beaty Story's obituary when it comes out in the > paper this week. I think this was a Pickett County death and may be in the > Pickett County paper. > > Willie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gerri Goodwin" <gerrigoodwin@cox.net> > To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 6:05 PM > Subject: [TNFENTRE-L] obit for fonzie beaty story > > >> Has anyone seen a Fentress Co. obit for Fonzie Beaty Story during the >> past week? >> Gerri >> >> >> ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== >> Don't Forget To Check The Courthouse & Bible Records For Pre 1865 Overton >> and Fentress Marriages.Also, Look For Recorded Wills. >> >> > > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Fentress County, Tennesee USGenWeb Page > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnfentre/fent.htm > To See Previous Posts http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre > >

Hi JW, I have the same sons for Peter Jr. that you do, 1. Caleb Lindsey Reagan b. 1801 Wilkes Co. marr. Susan D. (possibly Findley) 2. John Reagan (my line) b. 08 Feb. 1802 marr. Nancy Findley 3. Charles Reagan b. 04 June 1803 marr. Lavinia Mace 4. Elizabeth Reagan b. 1805 marr. Joshua Storie 5. Joel Lucy Reagan b. 1807 marr. Margaret Pennycuff 6. Wm. "Billy" Reagan b. 1811 marr. Mary "Molly" Beaty I think this is the only sons he had, but there is still a daughter out there and maybe 2. Believe your right with Joel having sons Samuel, Larkin and Thomas, think it possible one of the sons could have passed away? If the genealogy on Charles Reagan from VA is correct then the Charles in the Overton census belongs to that line. Don't know who the M. is not sure I have seen it. Is it in Fentress? If so that could be the son of Joel's you are looking for. Joel Lucy only had one son John Calvin b. abt 1830 and died during the Civil War. Hope this helps. Have some land record information that might be of help to you, but they are long and if its ok will send information to your e-mail address. Please let me know your thoughts on this. Pat

Pat, The more I research the Reagans of Overton and Fentress, the more problems I seem to enounter. In studying the the 1810 Wiles and 1820 Overton, Charles, Joel, Peter Jr had the following number of sons born before 1810/11. Charles had 3 sons b. befre 1810/11 Joel had 2-3 sons, more likely 2 b. bef 1810/11. Peter jr had 4 sons b. bef. 1810/11. Thus a total of 9-10 males b. before 1810/11. These are the male sons I have found thus far b. bef 1811. 1) Wm Billy Reagan b 1809/10 2) Caleb Reagan b. 1801 3) Samuel Reagan b. either 1790-1800 or 1810/11. I am wonderng if there were two Samuel Reagans? 4) Larkin Reagan b. 1809 or before 5) Charles Reagan b. 1800 6) Charles Reagan b. 1803/04. There were two Charles Reagans b. close together. 7) Joel Reagan b. 1807/08 8) John Reagan b. 1802/03 9) M.? Reagan of 1880 Fentress b. 1808/09. Cannot identify this Reagan. Now I want to attempt to figure out which one of these male sons belongs to Charles, Joel, and Peter Jr Reagan. So, first I would like to start out with Peter Jr Reagan. Whom do you have listed as sons for Peter Reagan Jr. There shuld be 4 sons. I know Caleb is one of them b. 1801. I called my dads 2nd wife, Jimmie Nell Reagan, she has info a Lloyd Reagan put together. According to his source, Peter Jr had the following sons: Caleb b. 1801 John b. 1802/03 Charles b. 1803/04 Joel L. b 1806/07 Wm "Billy" b. 1809/10. However, he lists 5 sons. I think one of them belongs to either Joel or Charles. What do you think? JW Garrett -----Original Message----- From: Ronpat158@aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 11:58 PM To: TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Caleb Reagan Hi JW, You are probably right about your line, I have very little information on Joel. But will be glad to help in anyway I can. The Wm. you mentioned is believed to be Wm. "Billy" the age would be about right, but again do not know that for sure. The Charles in Overton was the son of Henry Reagan, not sure where our Charles was. You mentioned Rachel's last name as Gwinn I had never heard that before. Do you think she might be related to Susannah that married Isaac Beaty? Know there were Gwinn in Wilkes Co. think I have a couple of land records. Pat ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== Check Out Fentress County Archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre

Thanks, Jill. I appreciate that so much. Do you have other pictures in the hardback book? Do you have any of the hardback books for sale? Gerri ----- Original Message ----- From: <MZKITEY1@aol.com> To: <TNFENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [TNFENTRE-L] Hiram Cyrus Beaty, Sr. >I think that I may have one, I will have to look. I think it is in my Beaty > Book, the colored hard back one. If I do I will send it to you. > > Jill Hicks > > > ==== TNFENTRE Mailing List ==== > Fentress County List has the best, most helpful and friendly people on any > List...You ALL are the greatest..... > To See Previous Posts http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/tnfentre > >

Sorry, the picture that I have is of Hiram Cyrus Jr. in his coffin.

Jill I have the papers, but I'm not sure 1941 is among them. When Luther York went off to WWII, they paper wasn't published, for the years he was gone. One would think there would be a death certificate, but record keeping can be sloppy at any time. If he died in another county or state, you might find something there. There is a man in S. C. who will look to see if there is a death certificate and if so they are $4 each, and if it isn't there, no charge. Wilma

I have been trying to find the death record of my Great Great Grandfather, James Walter Franklin, he was married to Charlotte Jane "Lottie Jane" Beaty, d/o Richard and Lydia Stephens Beaty. James Walter "Big Jim" Franklin was born July 31, 1874 Fentress Co., TN.-d. July 14, 1941 Boatland, Fentress Co., TN. He was buried at the Dempsey Bowden Cemetery at Boatland. I just wanted to find his obituary or maybe his death certificate. So far, I have found nothing. I searched the Archives in Nashville but it was my first visit and I really wasnt sure if I had looked through all the micro film that was available. If anyone would have any access to the old Fentress County Paper for that year, I would greatly appreciate it if you could see if his obit is in it. Jill Franklin Hicks

Yes Wilma, you do a very very good job on everything that you report, keep up your research and thanks so much for passing it along to all of us. Jill Franklin Hicks

I think that I may have one, I will have to look. I think it is in my Beaty Book, the colored hard back one. If I do I will send it to you. Jill Hicks

Hi Ann I knew that but at the moment of writing..It stayed on the back burner. There was one state where I ordered a birth record and had to send a copy of my driver's license and state it was for genealogy purposes. I believe it was Texas or Illinois. Milly WARD Piros My Mind is Like Lightning.... One Brilliant Flash and It's Gone.......