Thanks! On the right track..... that Dudley Climer is the one that no one has ever found... and they dont appear on census after the marriage so we assume they moved elsewhere but probably close by. Now the problem is with the J.T. Mitchell to Mary C. Jarratt July 2 1872....I have had two family persons saying this is our Jeremiah and that that T. was actually a V...not too surprising as there were Jarretts way donw my line..from NC....the Pension I recieved for Jeremiah V. Mitchell states that his wife "Mary" had died some forty or so years earlier...and the Pension states that he had a son that was sent to live with family in Texas but he had lost track of them .. said he made one trip in 1883 or 1884 to Texas but other than that he had never left TN.. until his war service......so the son mentioned would be son Hale mentioned in his mothers will of 1889..but Hale has never appeared on any census or anywhere so it is correct it seems in that Mary died not long after the marriage and the child was sent to live with family going to Texas and thats why Jeremiah joined the 50 infatnry fromTn.......He died in Hardin county according to records... i get confused with the record also mentioning Henry... Jeremiah's acxtual name according to his mothers will was Jeremiah Van Buren Mitchell... and a family bible has his name as Jeremiah Layfayette..Burenn so it was obviously written by a different family member....same dates adn etc.. so same man..... are you getting dizzy yet? Driving me nuts that for sure....Jeremiah was Justice of the Peace in Hardin.. but had spent a stint in Henry county as Railroad Depot man...all in the same areas........but went back to Hardin.. or perhaps the border line just changed as he died in Hardin county............whew!!! thanks to all of you who have put up with all this... I woulnt be so concerned except i cant get the child Hale out of my mind so I have to keep backtracking until I get this part documented.... thanks all............Lenora