Thanks Sandy!.....does any of this surfacse in those old Harkleroad papers and such we were given several years ago??......Seem you are getting very close to sorting who Jesse reakky was! Maybe HE didnt know either!........when I worked... I became very close friends with several people that I ran around with at the time...when they wanted to be personal they started calling me DEE,, which is my middle name....so no one else had an idea who they were talking about.....a lady that fancied herself a psychologist in the business world.. decided that the name Dee fit me just right and would be better for me in the business world.....to this day there are still only several persons that call me Dee and they are lifelong close connections.....I always tell them I come when called anything as long as it is nice! I wouldnt be suprised for you to someday find out that Jesse was really Larry or something.....your getting so good at ferrating out the facts.....thanks Lenora