carlie,thanks for responding,i have some of the census 1840 1850 1860 do you know who your oliver cromwell spicer's parents were? i posted a query once and someone emailed me back and said that joseph spicer had a brother named oliver and that their parents were claybourn spicer and nancy he was born in oglethorp ga not sure though i would love to hear about joseph and ann spicer's children their dau mary d spicer was my gggrandmother she md robert l thompson(he descends from neil and betty thompson of turnbull creek) mary and roberts children were cornelia,sarah and emma jane thompson who i know nothing about either.gosh i don't know much do i but i have quite a bit on the thompson side though any help would be appreciated i think that joseph's will is dated 1896 in dickson co tn thanks judy