Drake's Creek flows south from near the ridge through the Shackle Island and Hendersonville communities to the Cumberland River. The Turney and Looney names are familiar to me from researching in this area. As a matter of fact, some of the land my Stark ancestors bought was owned by a man named Turney. That land is located at "Stark's Knob" just north of Hendersonville. II don't know if it was this same man or not, and it will take me a while to dig out that deed. Joyce Stark Blocker

okay - I guess I opened a can of worms with Henry Turneys land records......I want to thank you all for what you have been sending to me. Henry Turney's brother was Peter Turney a surveyor in early TN when it was NC - he was along on the first survey done by NC on its land which falls in TN today with a Looney as his chain carrier. Anyway, Henry and Peter Turney came out of Shenandoah Co VA - Henry is found 1772 on New River - and they show up with two sisters (a Teeter and a Beeler) along Beaver Creek between Abingdon Va and Bristol TN/VA in early 1774. >From there they get land all over eastern TN - they were apparently speculating. They are on German Creek near Bean's Station. As you have noted Henry registered 4 seperate pieces of land around what is now Grainger and Hawkins Co area in March 1780. They are on some petitons of men north of Holston river earlier....all over the place but I think they were living on German Creek near Bean's Station. Sometime in spring of 1780 Henry Turney takes off for the Cumberland - he was German speaking and I think some of the other German speaking families from the Holston and Clinch River area probably moved about that time. I think Casper Mansker was the draw for them and the route thru Cumberland Gap, across KY and then down into TN would have passed by Goodletsville/Mansker's Station....also would have been thru what became Tennessee/Robertson County area. So I am thinking these German speaking families would first have been in or around Mansker's. but the Indians attacked that station and the people scattered to other forts. So exactly where Henry Turney was located I don't know. Meanwhile his brother Peter Turney was still over around Watauga, Holston, he might have been at King's Mountain in Oct 1780 and was listed for sure as being at Boyd's Creek, etc. He did not get land over by Ft Nashborough till about 1783 or so - his land is about where Vanderbilt U. is located. In 1783 (3 years after arrival on Cumberland) Henry Turney with Peter Looney as a neighbor registered land on Cumberland. This land became later SpringHaven and is located in Hendersonville. Peter Looney's land claim I think was later proven invalid. I don't know that Henry ever built a house on this 640 acres or lived there - Spring Haven was built much later. Henry sold / gave some of this SpringHaven 640 acres to son-in-law John Looney and son-in-law John Barnes. Apparently Henry did not pay tax on this land and almost lost it at one point when he sold it to a Sanders? (this from memory) who later got most of the 640 acres and was involved in SpringHaven. This land eventually falls in Sumner Co. So I can account for the full 640 acres - none of it went to Daniel Chambers. Another 640 acres Henry Turney had is today the Rickman house in Hartsville, Trousdale Co - Henry built this house in 1788 on west fork of Goose Creek - this was I think on Avery Trace - just to the east his brother Peter Turney built a house where he died in 1804. Peter was one of the first magistrates of Smith Co, his son was Senator Hopkins Lacey Turney, and Peter's grandson was TN Governor Peter Turney. Henry sold this house in Hartsville in Dec 1794 to his brother Michael (who had been living in KY) with brother Peter as wittness. I don't know who or when Michael sold this land but he eventually moved back to KY and later to Illinois. So the 640 acres in Hartsville was owned by Henry Turney from 1788 to 1794, but he and son Jacob are on the 1790 Hawkins Co tax list so he had moved back to some of his property he registered in 1780 (Big Creek? German Creek? the area of Rogersville, Bean's Station, etc.) Peter Turney was sheriff of Spencer Co in State of Franklin which later was Hawkins Co - so both brothers were back in Hawkins...... 1790s finds Peter Turney back around Dixon Springs and a couple of years later Jacob Turney is constable in Smith Co , he is oldest son of Henry Turney. Henry is bondsman in Hawkins co on son George Turney marriage to Catherine Barger in 1803....1802 Henry has begun to buy up land on Clear Fork in Smith Co - today most of it is in DeKalb Co but some is in Cannon. He ends up with a little kingdom running along Clear Fork. John Looney had a little land there (married Rebekoh Turney), 4 of Henry's sons have land along Clear Fork as does Henry. There are many land records thru the years where he is getting land in this area. Peter of course has land all over, after he died it was 30 or more years getting his estate settled since he would assign a piece of land in payment for a horse or another piece of land. The Turneys used land like money - they were all over the place. I think whenever Peter did a survey and found some good land on a migration route, he would buy/claim some of it and adjoining or nearby land for brother Henry. I know this is long - but perhaps someone will see something I have missed. I have not been able to find any land which would be the 640 acres he got for free - or where he gave David Chambers half of it. I find David Chambers name among the fleet which came to Cumberland with Col. Conelson in 1780....but not among the name of men given 640 acres for defense of fort. He may have been there I missed him, or he might have gone back to KY when the Indians attacked. I don't see him on 1794 Sumner Co tax (Peter Turney is there, a Jacob Taneys I wonder if is Jacob Turney). I do see David Chambers on a Sumner Co 1799 petition along with Peter Turney. (remember 1790-1803 Henry Turney is in Hawkins Co). I don't know anything else about this Daniel Chambers - if he kept the 320 acres or assigned it to someone else. I am having a difficult time even finding him in 1782 - and the articles of agreement say he is up in KY at that time anyway. I will read what everyone has sent me - and thank you again. Perhaps I can figure out where this 640 free acres was located. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] Land of settlers of Ft Nashborough > Drake's Creek flows south from near the ridge through the Shackle Island and > Hendersonville communities to the Cumberland River. The Turney and Looney > names are familiar to me from researching in this area. As a matter of fact, > some of the land my Stark ancestors bought was owned by a man named Turney. > That land is located at "Stark's Knob" just north of Hendersonville. II > don't know if it was this same man or not, and it will take me a while to dig out > that deed. > > Joyce Stark Blocker > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >