have you looked for them among the original Cumberland settlers - Ft Nashborough in 1780? I don't know if they are there or not, but you might check. I looked in Armstrong's entry book and did not find them, so don't think they were there in 1780.....but seems two Rules arrived before Jan 1783.... THE PREEMPTORS MIDDLE TENNESSEE'S FIRST SETTLERS volume I of a series of early TN land records Irene M. Griffey January 17th 1783 208. Andrew Rule obtained a pre empn of 640 acres of land lying on North side of Cumberland on the Middle fork of Bledsoe's Lick Creek about a mile below Cook's Camp beg'g at an improvemt marked on a Beech A M, and runn'g as the law directs down sd fork. March 10th 1783 377. Henry Rule obtained a pre empt of 640 acres of land lying on a small branch on the East side of Gaspers Creek about two miles below the Old Station on Bledsoes Lick Trace. Beginning about half a mile down the branch. South from the improvement and runing South and east for quantity. seems both of these were around Bledsoe's Lick Creek and Trace.....these are perhaps the two men on the 1783 Commissioners survey..... Hope that helps you - gives you the first location of Rule in the area. I did not see a Rineman in this 1783 record. Mary Turney Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "jj" <[email protected]> To: "'Mary Miller'" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 7:40 PM Subject: RE: [TNDAVIDS] Arringtons Creek & Commissioners Guards > You are a wealth of good information, Mary! Thank you so much for your > advice and for emailing me back. You've given me more leads to pursue, and > pursue I will. My Ferdinand Rineman/Ryneman was in the Sumner Co. tax list > around 1820 & 1821 and so were some RUYLE individuals...and they appear to > be around Madison Creek and Ruyle's Branch from the tax lists. I've checked > the Sumner Co. deed index and came up with very little on RUYLE and nothing > on Ferdinand for owning land so I needed your new leads. Jeanne > >