Yes I talked to the nicest man yesterday. He was the one that told me it was possible and to contact the Attorney General's office. It's much easier in Alabama. Their HIPPA runs out after 70 yrs. I was able to get 43 years worth of records from Bryce in Tuscaloosa on my GGF including all the letters his wife wrote him and his attempts to answer, all the medical info. It was the most amazing cache of info I ever got. Di -----Original Message----- From: tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Holley Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:43 AM To: tndavids@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] court order You might ask the TN State Archives. They have always been helpful. Linda On Jan 26, 2013, at 9:48 AM, jj wrote: > Sounds like they meant the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) that > pertains to public access to government records. You have to make a > written request and they have so many days to respond. Google for more information. Good luck! > > -----Original Message----- > From: tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dianne Armstrong > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:51 AM > To: Davidson Co > Subject: [TNDAVIDS] court order > > Has anyone or does anyone know of someone that was able to get a court > order in TN to obtain records for genealogy purposes > > from a facility? I was told today that several have successfully done > it in TN. He suggested I call the AG's office for more info. > > as to whether I have to be there in person or not or what the process is. > Would love to hear if anyone else has done this. > > Dianne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think a lot of people who have family buried at the cemeteries behind Dell Computer may have to go this route. There is a white cemetery and an African-American cemetery there for those who died at the old Central State Mental Hospital. My great-grandfather, James Lawson Steele, died there in 1919, and Dell refuses to allow anyone back there, despite State law regarding access to cemeteries.  ________________________________ From: jj <jj@tampabay.rr.com> To: di@montanapets.org; tndavids@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] court order Sounds like they meant the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) that pertains to public access to government records. You have to make a written request and they have so many days to respond. Google for more information. Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dianne Armstrong Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 12:51 AM To: Davidson Co Subject: [TNDAVIDS] court order Has anyone or does anyone know of someone that was able to get a court order in TN to obtain records for genealogy purposes from a facility? I was told today that several have successfully done it in TN. He suggested I call the AG's office for more info. as to whether I have to be there in person or not or what the process is. Would love to hear if anyone else has done this. Dianne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has anyone or does anyone know of someone that was able to get a court order in TN to obtain records for genealogy purposes from a facility? I was told today that several have successfully done it in TN. He suggested I call the AG's office for more info. as to whether I have to be there in person or not or what the process is. Would love to hear if anyone else has done this. Dianne

All the parents had to do was go before a judge and tell him their child was unmanageable and he would sign an order to commit the child to Central State Hospital and she had no recourse. They may have had to have a doctor's statement to back that up, but I don't know about that. I'm not sure if there was an age to where the child could get out on their own, or not. Surely there was. > From: "Dianne Armstrong" <di@montanapets.org> > Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] TNDAVIDS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 5 > > Yes that's the one. I'm not sure the exact date they closed. I did talk to > the hospital that became the repository or still operates out of the same > location. They said all records were previously destroyed but my experience > is usually something survived, just not sure what. Clara Reynolds was put > there as a teenager around 17-19 years old, around 1900-1910. Some family > members are still living that visited her and said she seemed as normal as > anyone else, that Clara was quoted to say she was put there for "smarting > off" and continued to ask help in getting out which never happened. I'd > really like to know the real story. I don't think her father was a very nice > person from what I can uncover and the family are split up after her admit > although I don't know if that was coincidental or related to that and the > whole family left the area after she was committed. > Dianne > > > >

http://tngenweb.org/poor/csh.html That's what I was able to find. Dianne -----Original Message----- From: tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Glenda Todd Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:29 AM To: tndavids@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] TNDAVIDS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 5 Dianne, are you talking about Central State Hospital, the mental hospital on the Murfreesboro Highway? If so, be aware there were about as many people there who were alcoholics and went there to dry out, as there were the mentally "disturbed or challenged." When was that hospital closed? tndavids-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. records from Central Hospital (Dianne Armstrong) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:40:48 -0700 > From: "Dianne Armstrong" <di@montanapets.org> > Subject: [TNDAVIDS] records from Central Hospital > To: "Davidson Co" <TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <006e01cdf8f1$881b7500$98525f00$@montanapets.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Does anyone know are there any records at all from Central Hospital at > the archives? I know Central destroyed the medical records but > anything at all including lists with patients there from the early > 1900's? I know my great aunt was admitted between 1900-1910 and lived > there until her death but that's all I've been able to learn excepting > some rather interesting family stories passed down that I would love > to be able to validate or deny. Just wondering if there is anything at all relating to Central there. > > Dianne > > di@montanapets.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the TNDAVIDS list administrator, send an email to > TNDAVIDS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the TNDAVIDS mailing list, send an email to TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of TNDAVIDS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 5 > ************************************** > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Check wi th Metro   Archi ves, they would know if any records survived. Good luck, Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne Armstrong" <di@montanapets.org> To: tndavids@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:42:06 AM Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] TNDAVIDS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 5 Yes that's the one. I'm not sure the exact date they closed. I did talk to the hospital that became the repository or still operates out of the same location. They said all records were previously destroyed but my experience is usually something survived, just not sure what. Clara Reynolds was put there as a teenager around 17-19 years old, around 1900-1910. Some family members are still living that visited her and said she seemed as normal as anyone else, that Clara was quoted to say she was put there for "smarting off" and continued to ask help in getting out which never happened. I'd really like to know the real story. I don't think her father was a very nice person from what I can uncover and the family are split up after her admit although I don't know if that was coincidental or related to that and the whole family left the area after she was committed. Dianne -----Original Message----- From: tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Glenda Todd Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:29 AM To: tndavids@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] TNDAVIDS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 5 Dianne, are you talking about Central State Hospital, the mental hospital on the Murfreesboro Highway? If so, be aware there were about as many people there who were alcoholics and went there to dry out, as there were the mentally "disturbed or challenged." When was that hospital closed? tndavids-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > >    1. records from Central Hospital (Dianne Armstrong) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:40:48 -0700 > From: "Dianne Armstrong" <di@montanapets.org> > Subject: [TNDAVIDS] records from Central Hospital > To: "Davidson Co" <TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <006e01cdf8f1$881b7500$98525f00$@montanapets.org> > Content-Type: text/plain;        charset="us-ascii" > > Does anyone know are there any records at all from Central Hospital at > the archives? I know Central destroyed the medical records but > anything at all including lists with patients there from the early > 1900's? I know my great aunt was admitted between 1900-1910 and lived > there until her death but that's all I've been able to learn excepting > some rather interesting family stories passed down that I would love > to be able to validate or deny. Just wondering if there is anything at all relating to Central there. > > Dianne > > di@montanapets.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the TNDAVIDS list administrator, send an email to > TNDAVIDS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the TNDAVIDS mailing list, send an email to TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of TNDAVIDS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 5 > ************************************** > > >     ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes that's the one. I'm not sure the exact date they closed. I did talk to the hospital that became the repository or still operates out of the same location. They said all records were previously destroyed but my experience is usually something survived, just not sure what. Clara Reynolds was put there as a teenager around 17-19 years old, around 1900-1910. Some family members are still living that visited her and said she seemed as normal as anyone else, that Clara was quoted to say she was put there for "smarting off" and continued to ask help in getting out which never happened. I'd really like to know the real story. I don't think her father was a very nice person from what I can uncover and the family are split up after her admit although I don't know if that was coincidental or related to that and the whole family left the area after she was committed. Dianne -----Original Message----- From: tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Glenda Todd Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:29 AM To: tndavids@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] TNDAVIDS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 5 Dianne, are you talking about Central State Hospital, the mental hospital on the Murfreesboro Highway? If so, be aware there were about as many people there who were alcoholics and went there to dry out, as there were the mentally "disturbed or challenged." When was that hospital closed? tndavids-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. records from Central Hospital (Dianne Armstrong) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:40:48 -0700 > From: "Dianne Armstrong" <di@montanapets.org> > Subject: [TNDAVIDS] records from Central Hospital > To: "Davidson Co" <TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <006e01cdf8f1$881b7500$98525f00$@montanapets.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Does anyone know are there any records at all from Central Hospital at > the archives? I know Central destroyed the medical records but > anything at all including lists with patients there from the early > 1900's? I know my great aunt was admitted between 1900-1910 and lived > there until her death but that's all I've been able to learn excepting > some rather interesting family stories passed down that I would love > to be able to validate or deny. Just wondering if there is anything at all relating to Central there. > > Dianne > > di@montanapets.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the TNDAVIDS list administrator, send an email to > TNDAVIDS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the TNDAVIDS mailing list, send an email to TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of TNDAVIDS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 5 > ************************************** > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dianne, are you talking about Central State Hospital, the mental hospital on the Murfreesboro Highway? If so, be aware there were about as many people there who were alcoholics and went there to dry out, as there were the mentally "disturbed or challenged." When was that hospital closed? tndavids-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. records from Central Hospital (Dianne Armstrong) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:40:48 -0700 > From: "Dianne Armstrong" <di@montanapets.org> > Subject: [TNDAVIDS] records from Central Hospital > To: "Davidson Co" <TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <006e01cdf8f1$881b7500$98525f00$@montanapets.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Does anyone know are there any records at all from Central Hospital at the > archives? I know Central destroyed the medical records but anything at all > including lists with patients there from the early 1900's? I know my great > aunt was admitted between 1900-1910 and lived there until her death but > that's all I've been able to learn excepting some rather interesting family > stories passed down that I would love to be able to validate or deny. Just > wondering if there is anything at all relating to Central there. > > Dianne > > di@montanapets.org > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the TNDAVIDS list administrator, send an email to > TNDAVIDS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the TNDAVIDS mailing list, send an email to TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of TNDAVIDS Digest, Vol 8, Issue 5 > ************************************** > > >

Does anyone know are there any records at all from Central Hospital at the archives? I know Central destroyed the medical records but anything at all including lists with patients there from the early 1900's? I know my great aunt was admitted between 1900-1910 and lived there until her death but that's all I've been able to learn excepting some rather interesting family stories passed down that I would love to be able to validate or deny. Just wondering if there is anything at all relating to Central there. Dianne di@montanapets.org

The Bennett line of my mothers is a different line of my mother's than my Ogles/Orr grandparents. The Bennett's are not connected to my Ogles and Orr lines. My lines in Sumner was also in Allen Co Ky across the state line. Thanks for answering. Marianne Dillow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Johnson" <tonyempireore@msn.com> To: tndavids@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 2:15:09 PM Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] John Orr of Sumner Co., Tn. and William Orr of Davidson Co., Tn., Are They Kin Marianne These people stayed in their clans and married in themand then moved with them The People in Sumner are also foundin other Counties too during time periods My lines up there are several, you are working a line I have not worked on in years the Bennett families and allied families. I do not have a file at all on TN Sumner Co. Johnson and allied families, but on of the Hudson Familes is up there and so is a Patrick family. I am totally going from memory and that is all I can say is factual at this time. I will have to do a Sumner search in the library and see what comes out of other files. here is a time line on County Changes Tony > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:08:49 +0000 > From: marlowest155@frontier.com > To: tndavids@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] John Orr of Sumner Co., Tn. and William Orr of Davidson Co., Tn., Are They Kin > > Hi Tony, > > We meet again. I forgot one piece of info when I posted this last night. > > WILLIAM ORR was also in the 1794 tax list in SUMNER county for 200 acres. So, it looks like he was back and forth between Davidson and Sumner counties. I don't know if he and my JOHN ORR are kin but they and a ROBERT OAR are the only ones I see in my area. I don't think anyone knows for certain but we think JOHN ORR might have a birthdate of ca 1750 as he died in 1798 in Sumner County and his wife FRANCES unknown died in 1813. There is only an inventory on him with no will. in Sumner in 1814 after Frances died.. > > I know what your taking about on county formations. That would include Walkers Line between Sumner County and Allen Co Ky. Some of my lines were in both. > > Thanks for answering.. Now I need to find out where my JOHN ORR and this WILLIAM ORR were before coming to TN. .. and ROBERT ORE. > > Marianne Dillow > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Johnson" <tonyempireore@msn.com> > To: tndavids@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:43:04 AM > Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] John Orr of Sumner Co., Tn. and William Orr of Davidson Co., Tn., Are They Kin > > Marianne > > you have now hit my back door of mine and cousin Peggys home LOL in your research > > DIckson County Tn is a very Intersting County as it has foremd and refored many time thu out its History, this COunty did not stop changing County Line tell 1888 so many people were in and out of the Counties that surround Dickson. > > I would Highly recopmmend you identify the area your families lived in as These lands changed with a wimp. Folks at times did not know where to file their deeds wills etc. This is also where the families of General Bennetts sister ( mine and cousin pegs came to) Our familes have been in This and Humphreys C Tn since 1783. Peg was born here I was raised in Oregon but came back ever summer to this area. My Cousin Molly Simpson runs the USGENWEB project for this area I Would check her site USGENWEB DICKSON CO TN and US GENWEB HUmphreys Co. Tn for your surname and peolpe researching them > > Tony > > Also of note the Ogle families of Colonial Va are tied to Johnson research going back to Lincolnshire Englandin 1550 ERA > > Now For Time Eras in1796 July 18 Robertson Co. Formed: > 1803 Dickson County Tn formed from Robertson and Montgomery Counties > 1807 Hickman County formed from Dickson County > 1836 Dickson Co Line Changed some folks on Hurricane Creek will now be in Humphreys CO. Tn and others that were in Hickman Co Records are now in Humphreys Co. TN> > > (250.9 KB) > > (308.9 KB) > Garry S Brown gsbrown@q.com > 1856 Cheatham County formed from Dickson County, Davidson, Montgomery and Robertson Counties > > > > > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:01:17 +0000 > > From: marlowest155@frontier.com > > To: TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [TNDAVIDS] John Orr of Sumner Co., Tn. and William Orr of Davidson Co., Tn., Are They Kin > > > > My 5th great grandparents are JOHN ORR and FRANCES unknown. I descend from their daughter MARGARET "PEGGY" ORR who married WILLIAM OGLES 15 July 1803 in Sumner Co., Tn. Margaret Orr and William Ogles were both in Sumner Co., Tn and across the state line in Allen Co., Ky. > > > > My JOHN ORR died ca 1798 in Sumner Co., Tn and left an inventory of his estate which was not concluded until 1814 due to the death of Frances in 1813 in Sumner Co., Tn. I am trying to find John Orr's parents. > > > > I don't know if this could be my John Orr's line or not. > > > > I do have a copy of a WILLIAM ORE in Sumner Co.,Tn in a deed dated 18 March 1796 between him and ROBERT HAYS of Davidson County, Tn. A witness was ROBERT OAR. I don't know if this is the same WILLIAM ORE (ORR) or not. > > > > JOHN WALKER was called for jury duty on the Superior Court of Law and Equity in November of 1788 and again in May 1789 in Nashville. On 23 July 1802 PHILIP WALKKER sold to JANNET WALKER, "widow, relict of Philip Walker, Sr., lately deceased, a negro woman named Hannah and one bay mare and colt" which had been the property of John Walker. > > > > A Will of PHILIP WALKER leaves to "my beloved wife Jennet Walker a decent way of living on my estate also a negro girl named Feb. He had a oldest son named John and sons-in-law's Alexander Campbell, WILLIAM ORR, Matthew McKance and William Neely. > > > > William ORE ( OAR, ORE ), was called from SUMNER COUNTY for jury duty on the Superior Court of Law and Equity meeting in NASHVILLE in November of 1790. PHILIP WALKER, deceased, left to "my son-in-law WILLIAM ORR that negro girl that is now in his possession also 100 acres of land that I bought from ROBERT HAYS. > > > > Any kinship on my JOHN ORR in Sumner County TN and the WILLIAM ORE ( ORR) in Davidson Co., Tn. and Sumner Co., Tn. would be appreciated. > > > > Marianne Dillow > > Illinois > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tony, We meet again. I forgot one piece of info when I posted this last night. WILLIAM ORR was also in the 1794 tax list in SUMNER county for 200 acres. So, it looks like he was back and forth between Davidson and Sumner counties. I don't know if he and my JOHN ORR are kin but they and a ROBERT OAR are the only ones I see in my area. I don't think anyone knows for certain but we think JOHN ORR might have a birthdate of ca 1750 as he died in 1798 in Sumner County and his wife FRANCES unknown died in 1813. There is only an inventory on him with no will. in Sumner in 1814 after Frances died.. I know what your taking about on county formations. That would include Walkers Line between Sumner County and Allen Co Ky. Some of my lines were in both. Thanks for answering.. Now I need to find out where my JOHN ORR and this WILLIAM ORR were before coming to TN. .. and ROBERT ORE. Marianne Dillow ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Johnson" <tonyempireore@msn.com> To: tndavids@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:43:04 AM Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] John Orr of Sumner Co., Tn. and William Orr of Davidson Co., Tn., Are They Kin Marianne you have now hit my back door of mine and cousin Peggys home LOL in your research DIckson County Tn is a very Intersting County as it has foremd and refored many time thu out its History, this COunty did not stop changing County Line tell 1888 so many people were in and out of the Counties that surround Dickson. I would Highly recopmmend you identify the area your families lived in as These lands changed with a wimp. Folks at times did not know where to file their deeds wills etc. This is also where the families of General Bennetts sister ( mine and cousin pegs came to) Our familes have been in This and Humphreys C Tn since 1783. Peg was born here I was raised in Oregon but came back ever summer to this area. My Cousin Molly Simpson runs the USGENWEB project for this area I Would check her site USGENWEB DICKSON CO TN and US GENWEB HUmphreys Co. Tn for your surname and peolpe researching them Tony Also of note the Ogle families of Colonial Va are tied to Johnson research going back to Lincolnshire Englandin 1550 ERA Now For Time Eras in1796 July 18 Robertson Co. Formed: 1803 Dickson County Tn formed from Robertson and Montgomery Counties 1807 Hickman County formed from Dickson County 1836 Dickson Co Line Changed some folks on Hurricane Creek will now be in Humphreys CO. Tn and others that were in Hickman Co Records are now in Humphreys Co. TN> (250.9 KB) (308.9 KB) Garry S Brown gsbrown@q.com 1856 Cheatham County formed from Dickson County, Davidson, Montgomery and Robertson Counties > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:01:17 +0000 > From: marlowest155@frontier.com > To: TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TNDAVIDS] John Orr of Sumner Co., Tn. and William Orr of Davidson Co., Tn., Are They Kin > > My 5th great grandparents are JOHN ORR and FRANCES unknown. I descend from their daughter MARGARET "PEGGY" ORR who married WILLIAM OGLES 15 July 1803 in Sumner Co., Tn. Margaret Orr and William Ogles were both in Sumner Co., Tn and across the state line in Allen Co., Ky. > > My JOHN ORR died ca 1798 in Sumner Co., Tn and left an inventory of his estate which was not concluded until 1814 due to the death of Frances in 1813 in Sumner Co., Tn. I am trying to find John Orr's parents. > > I don't know if this could be my John Orr's line or not. > > I do have a copy of a WILLIAM ORE in Sumner Co.,Tn in a deed dated 18 March 1796 between him and ROBERT HAYS of Davidson County, Tn. A witness was ROBERT OAR. I don't know if this is the same WILLIAM ORE (ORR) or not. > > JOHN WALKER was called for jury duty on the Superior Court of Law and Equity in November of 1788 and again in May 1789 in Nashville. On 23 July 1802 PHILIP WALKKER sold to JANNET WALKER, "widow, relict of Philip Walker, Sr., lately deceased, a negro woman named Hannah and one bay mare and colt" which had been the property of John Walker. > > A Will of PHILIP WALKER leaves to "my beloved wife Jennet Walker a decent way of living on my estate also a negro girl named Feb. He had a oldest son named John and sons-in-law's Alexander Campbell, WILLIAM ORR, Matthew McKance and William Neely. > > William ORE ( OAR, ORE ), was called from SUMNER COUNTY for jury duty on the Superior Court of Law and Equity meeting in NASHVILLE in November of 1790. PHILIP WALKER, deceased, left to "my son-in-law WILLIAM ORR that negro girl that is now in his possession also 100 acres of land that I bought from ROBERT HAYS. > > Any kinship on my JOHN ORR in Sumner County TN and the WILLIAM ORE ( ORR) in Davidson Co., Tn. and Sumner Co., Tn. would be appreciated. > > Marianne Dillow > Illinois > > > > >

Looking for any Haggard descendants in the area. My direct line is W.H. Haggard he went by William Holman Haggard as well. He married Lucinda Mcintosh daughter of Nimrod Mcintosh & Nancy Murphey-Murphy. My Gibson & Trevathan families also tie in with these folks as well so I would like to meet some new researchers out there ! Thanks Robin Holt

Marianne These people stayed in their clans and married in themand then moved with them The People in Sumner are also foundin other Counties too during time periods My lines up there are several, you are working a line I have not worked on in years the Bennett families and allied families. I do not have a file at all on TN Sumner Co. Johnson and allied families, but on of the Hudson Familes is up there and so is a Patrick family. I am totally going from memory and that is all I can say is factual at this time. I will have to do a Sumner search in the library and see what comes out of other files. here is a time line on County Changes Tony > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 18:08:49 +0000 > From: marlowest155@frontier.com > To: tndavids@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] John Orr of Sumner Co., Tn. and William Orr of Davidson Co., Tn., Are They Kin > > Hi Tony, > > We meet again. I forgot one piece of info when I posted this last night. > > WILLIAM ORR was also in the 1794 tax list in SUMNER county for 200 acres. So, it looks like he was back and forth between Davidson and Sumner counties. I don't know if he and my JOHN ORR are kin but they and a ROBERT OAR are the only ones I see in my area. I don't think anyone knows for certain but we think JOHN ORR might have a birthdate of ca 1750 as he died in 1798 in Sumner County and his wife FRANCES unknown died in 1813. There is only an inventory on him with no will. in Sumner in 1814 after Frances died.. > > I know what your taking about on county formations. That would include Walkers Line between Sumner County and Allen Co Ky. Some of my lines were in both. > > Thanks for answering.. Now I need to find out where my JOHN ORR and this WILLIAM ORR were before coming to TN. .. and ROBERT ORE. > > Marianne Dillow > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Johnson" <tonyempireore@msn.com> > To: tndavids@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 9:43:04 AM > Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] John Orr of Sumner Co., Tn. and William Orr of Davidson Co., Tn., Are They Kin > > Marianne > > you have now hit my back door of mine and cousin Peggys home LOL in your research > > DIckson County Tn is a very Intersting County as it has foremd and refored many time thu out its History, this COunty did not stop changing County Line tell 1888 so many people were in and out of the Counties that surround Dickson. > > I would Highly recopmmend you identify the area your families lived in as These lands changed with a wimp. Folks at times did not know where to file their deeds wills etc. This is also where the families of General Bennetts sister ( mine and cousin pegs came to) Our familes have been in This and Humphreys C Tn since 1783. Peg was born here I was raised in Oregon but came back ever summer to this area. My Cousin Molly Simpson runs the USGENWEB project for this area I Would check her site USGENWEB DICKSON CO TN and US GENWEB HUmphreys Co. Tn for your surname and peolpe researching them > > Tony > > Also of note the Ogle families of Colonial Va are tied to Johnson research going back to Lincolnshire Englandin 1550 ERA > > Now For Time Eras in1796 July 18 Robertson Co. Formed: > 1803 Dickson County Tn formed from Robertson and Montgomery Counties > 1807 Hickman County formed from Dickson County > 1836 Dickson Co Line Changed some folks on Hurricane Creek will now be in Humphreys CO. Tn and others that were in Hickman Co Records are now in Humphreys Co. TN> > > (250.9 KB) > > (308.9 KB) > Garry S Brown gsbrown@q.com > 1856 Cheatham County formed from Dickson County, Davidson, Montgomery and Robertson Counties > > > > > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:01:17 +0000 > > From: marlowest155@frontier.com > > To: TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [TNDAVIDS] John Orr of Sumner Co., Tn. and William Orr of Davidson Co., Tn., Are They Kin > > > > My 5th great grandparents are JOHN ORR and FRANCES unknown. I descend from their daughter MARGARET "PEGGY" ORR who married WILLIAM OGLES 15 July 1803 in Sumner Co., Tn. Margaret Orr and William Ogles were both in Sumner Co., Tn and across the state line in Allen Co., Ky. > > > > My JOHN ORR died ca 1798 in Sumner Co., Tn and left an inventory of his estate which was not concluded until 1814 due to the death of Frances in 1813 in Sumner Co., Tn. I am trying to find John Orr's parents. > > > > I don't know if this could be my John Orr's line or not. > > > > I do have a copy of a WILLIAM ORE in Sumner Co.,Tn in a deed dated 18 March 1796 between him and ROBERT HAYS of Davidson County, Tn. A witness was ROBERT OAR. I don't know if this is the same WILLIAM ORE (ORR) or not. > > > > JOHN WALKER was called for jury duty on the Superior Court of Law and Equity in November of 1788 and again in May 1789 in Nashville. On 23 July 1802 PHILIP WALKKER sold to JANNET WALKER, "widow, relict of Philip Walker, Sr., lately deceased, a negro woman named Hannah and one bay mare and colt" which had been the property of John Walker. > > > > A Will of PHILIP WALKER leaves to "my beloved wife Jennet Walker a decent way of living on my estate also a negro girl named Feb. He had a oldest son named John and sons-in-law's Alexander Campbell, WILLIAM ORR, Matthew McKance and William Neely. > > > > William ORE ( OAR, ORE ), was called from SUMNER COUNTY for jury duty on the Superior Court of Law and Equity meeting in NASHVILLE in November of 1790. PHILIP WALKER, deceased, left to "my son-in-law WILLIAM ORR that negro girl that is now in his possession also 100 acres of land that I bought from ROBERT HAYS. > > > > Any kinship on my JOHN ORR in Sumner County TN and the WILLIAM ORE ( ORR) in Davidson Co., Tn. and Sumner Co., Tn. would be appreciated. > > > > Marianne Dillow > > Illinois > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My 5th great grandparents are JOHN ORR and FRANCES unknown. I descend from their daughter MARGARET "PEGGY" ORR who married WILLIAM OGLES 15 July 1803 in Sumner Co., Tn. Margaret Orr and William Ogles were both in Sumner Co., Tn and across the state line in Allen Co., Ky. My JOHN ORR died ca 1798 in Sumner Co., Tn and left an inventory of his estate which was not concluded until 1814 due to the death of Frances in 1813 in Sumner Co., Tn. I am trying to find John Orr's parents. I don't know if this could be my John Orr's line or not. I do have a copy of a WILLIAM ORE in Sumner Co.,Tn in a deed dated 18 March 1796 between him and ROBERT HAYS of Davidson County, Tn. A witness was ROBERT OAR. I don't know if this is the same WILLIAM ORE (ORR) or not. JOHN WALKER was called for jury duty on the Superior Court of Law and Equity in November of 1788 and again in May 1789 in Nashville. On 23 July 1802 PHILIP WALKKER sold to JANNET WALKER, "widow, relict of Philip Walker, Sr., lately deceased, a negro woman named Hannah and one bay mare and colt" which had been the property of John Walker. A Will of PHILIP WALKER leaves to "my beloved wife Jennet Walker a decent way of living on my estate also a negro girl named Feb. He had a oldest son named John and sons-in-law's Alexander Campbell, WILLIAM ORR, Matthew McKance and William Neely. William ORE ( OAR, ORE ), was called from SUMNER COUNTY for jury duty on the Superior Court of Law and Equity meeting in NASHVILLE in November of 1790. PHILIP WALKER, deceased, left to "my son-in-law WILLIAM ORR that negro girl that is now in his possession also 100 acres of land that I bought from ROBERT HAYS. Any kinship on my JOHN ORR in Sumner County TN and the WILLIAM ORE ( ORR) in Davidson Co., Tn. and Sumner Co., Tn. would be appreciated. Marianne Dillow Illinois

Marianne you have now hit my back door of mine and cousin Peggys home LOL in your research DIckson County Tn is a very Intersting County as it has foremd and refored many time thu out its History, this COunty did not stop changing County Line tell 1888 so many people were in and out of the Counties that surround Dickson. I would Highly recopmmend you identify the area your families lived in as These lands changed with a wimp. Folks at times did not know where to file their deeds wills etc. This is also where the families of General Bennetts sister ( mine and cousin pegs came to) Our familes have been in This and Humphreys C Tn since 1783. Peg was born here I was raised in Oregon but came back ever summer to this area. My Cousin Molly Simpson runs the USGENWEB project for this area I Would check her site USGENWEB DICKSON CO TN and US GENWEB HUmphreys Co. Tn for your surname and peolpe researching them Tony Also of note the Ogle families of Colonial Va are tied to Johnson research going back to Lincolnshire Englandin 1550 ERA Now For Time Eras in1796 July 18 Robertson Co. Formed: 1803 Dickson County Tn formed from Robertson and Montgomery Counties 1807 Hickman County formed from Dickson County 1836 Dickson Co Line Changed some folks on Hurricane Creek will now be in Humphreys CO. Tn and others that were in Hickman Co Records are now in Humphreys Co. TN> (250.9 KB) (308.9 KB) Garry S Brown gsbrown@q.com 1856 Cheatham County formed from Dickson County, Davidson, Montgomery and Robertson Counties > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:01:17 +0000 > From: marlowest155@frontier.com > To: TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TNDAVIDS] John Orr of Sumner Co., Tn. and William Orr of Davidson Co., Tn., Are They Kin > > My 5th great grandparents are JOHN ORR and FRANCES unknown. I descend from their daughter MARGARET "PEGGY" ORR who married WILLIAM OGLES 15 July 1803 in Sumner Co., Tn. Margaret Orr and William Ogles were both in Sumner Co., Tn and across the state line in Allen Co., Ky. > > My JOHN ORR died ca 1798 in Sumner Co., Tn and left an inventory of his estate which was not concluded until 1814 due to the death of Frances in 1813 in Sumner Co., Tn. I am trying to find John Orr's parents. > > I don't know if this could be my John Orr's line or not. > > I do have a copy of a WILLIAM ORE in Sumner Co.,Tn in a deed dated 18 March 1796 between him and ROBERT HAYS of Davidson County, Tn. A witness was ROBERT OAR. I don't know if this is the same WILLIAM ORE (ORR) or not. > > JOHN WALKER was called for jury duty on the Superior Court of Law and Equity in November of 1788 and again in May 1789 in Nashville. On 23 July 1802 PHILIP WALKKER sold to JANNET WALKER, "widow, relict of Philip Walker, Sr., lately deceased, a negro woman named Hannah and one bay mare and colt" which had been the property of John Walker. > > A Will of PHILIP WALKER leaves to "my beloved wife Jennet Walker a decent way of living on my estate also a negro girl named Feb. He had a oldest son named John and sons-in-law's Alexander Campbell, WILLIAM ORR, Matthew McKance and William Neely. > > William ORE ( OAR, ORE ), was called from SUMNER COUNTY for jury duty on the Superior Court of Law and Equity meeting in NASHVILLE in November of 1790. PHILIP WALKER, deceased, left to "my son-in-law WILLIAM ORR that negro girl that is now in his possession also 100 acres of land that I bought from ROBERT HAYS. > > Any kinship on my JOHN ORR in Sumner County TN and the WILLIAM ORE ( ORR) in Davidson Co., Tn. and Sumner Co., Tn. would be appreciated. > > Marianne Dillow > Illinois > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy Try emailing the Tennessee State Library and Archives for their policy, fees, etc for making copies of newspaper obits - http://www.tennessee.gov/tsla/history/mailelec.htm Also the Nashville Public Library - http://www.library.nashville.org/localhistory/his_spcoll_gen_obituaries.asp Both facilities have Nashville/Davidson County newspapers on microfilm from the time period you are interested in. You can find a list of people who research for a fee on the website of the Middle Tennessee Genealogical Society - http://www.mtgs.org/mtgsnewlist.htm They all have different policies and fees, so you should inquire of more than one. It cost nothing to send an email, detailing what you need, including dates if known, and asking what the charges would be. On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Judy Erickson <jmje36@embarqmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear List, > > > > Is there a source for obits in Davidson County? I am seeking 2 obits > (1913 for a CSA soldier & 1918 for his wife) of persons buried in Mt. > Olivet Cemetery. I am open to any and all suggestions. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Judy in TX > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Judy, I had to go to Nashville and visit the Archives to access the microfilm to find the obits for my great-great grandparents. I have not found an online source. NewspaperArchives.com is a subscription service with old newspapers but it does not have any Nashville newspapers. GenealogyBank.com doesn't appear to carry obits much earlier that 1977. Unfortunately, it does not appear that there are many active Nashville researchers who are members of this list. There was a website - Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness - that could put you in touch with a local volunteer researcher who could be your "feet on the ground", but I am not sure that is still an active site. Joan in Virginia -------------------------------------------------- From: "Judy Erickson" <jmje36@embarqmail.com> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 7:59 PM To: <tndavids-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [TNDAVIDS] Request for info > > > Dear List, > > > > Is there a source for obits in Davidson County? I am seeking 2 obits > (1913 for a CSA soldier & 1918 for his wife) of persons buried in Mt. > Olivet Cemetery. I am open to any and all suggestions. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Judy in TX > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy...When I wrote to Mt Olivet some years ago, they sent me copies of everything they had on my relatives, including obits, if there were any...Very nice people... Betty Brown > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 19:59:01 -0500 > From: jmje36@embarqmail.com > To: tndavids-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [TNDAVIDS] Request for info > > > > Dear List, > > > > Is there a source for obits in Davidson County? I am seeking 2 obits (1913 for a CSA soldier & 1918 for his wife) of persons buried in Mt. Olivet Cemetery. I am open to any and all suggestions. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Judy in TX > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List, Is there a source for obits in Davidson County?  I am seeking 2 obits (1913 for a CSA soldier  & 1918 for his wife) of persons buried in Mt. Olivet Cemetery.  I am open to any and all suggestions. Thank you, Judy in TX

Does anybody know a source for obits in Davidson County?  I am seeking one in 1913 and another in 1918.  These two were husband and wife.  He was CSA soldier.  They are buried in Mt. Olivet Cemetery in Davidson Co. Thanks, Judy in TX