I'm looking for where to find the information both free, and online. This is the federal census, folks, not archane commercial information. Dora -----Original Message----- From: George Kirlin via Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 1:35 PM To: 'Dora Smith' ; 'tndavids@rootsweb.com' Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] Need map of civil districts for Robertson, Davidson and Cheatham Counties Go find a copy of William Dollarhide's "Map Guide to the US Federal Census 1790-1920" -----Original Message----- From: tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dora Smith via Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:14 PM To: TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNDAVIDS] Need map of civil districts for Robertson, Davidson and Cheatham Counties Where, online, would I find civil district maps for Robertson, Davidson and Cheatham Counties, ca 1880 through 1920. I am tired of the census telling me that so and so lived in Civil District 7, Robertson, Tennessee. Like where in the heck was that?!! Ditto Civil District 14. Thanks! Dora --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Go find a copy of William Dollarhide's "Map Guide to the US Federal Census 1790-1920" -----Original Message----- From: tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dora Smith via Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:14 PM To: TNDAVIDS@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNDAVIDS] Need map of civil districts for Robertson, Davidson and Cheatham Counties Where, online, would I find civil district maps for Robertson, Davidson and Cheatham Counties, ca 1880 through 1920. I am tired of the census telling me that so and so lived in Civil District 7, Robertson, Tennessee. Like where in the heck was that?!! Ditto Civil District 14. Thanks! Dora --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Where, online, would I find civil district maps for Robertson, Davidson and Cheatham Counties, ca 1880 through 1920. I am tired of the census telling me that so and so lived in Civil District 7, Robertson, Tennessee. Like where in the heck was that?!! Ditto Civil District 14. Thanks! Dora --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Wow! What an incredible find! I wish you would run across my Burnside/Howe album that I saw 30+ years ago in PA that now no one seems to have remembered seeing. Glad I took pictures of some of the pictures. Linda On Sep 8, 2014, at 1:51 AM, Shelley Cardiel via wrote: > I've "rescued" a group of ROWLAND Family photographs (17 total) and two > photograph albums as well. The group of 17 loose photographs include the > following people and based on limited research I've included some additional > information that I discovered regarding the family and those in the > photographs: > > > > Delta ROWLAND > > . Dr. Delta Eulita or Eulilla ROWLAND was b. Dec 1883 in IL to > parents Christian ROWLAND (1855-1935) and Sarah Eulila LICHTY (1857-1902). > She died in 1941 in Yakima Co. WA and is buried in the Old Sunnyside > Cemetery in Sunnyside, WA > > > > Grace ROWLAND and Clifford FRANKS at Lainesville about 1906 > > . Clifford G. FRANKS was b. 17 Sept 1888 in Brookville, IL to > parents George FRANKS and Margaret or Catherine COWAN or COWEN. He married > Hazel M. CLOTHIER or CLOSHIER (b. 1888 to parents Will CLOTHIER or CLOSHIER > and Della HAWES) on 6 Oct 1909 in Kane, IL. Clifford d. 19 Aug 1936 in > Chicago, IL and is buried in the Fairmount Cemetery in Polo, IL. He was > living in Nashville, TN when he registered for the draft in 1917. Grace > Darling ROWLAND was b. 4 Jul 1888 in Lanark, IL to Christian ROWLAND and > Sarah LICHTY as noted below. She married Clayton SPECK (b. 3 Sept 1885) on > 28 Nov 1908. > > > > Joy ROWLAND & Grace ROWLAND with Z. T. LIVENGOOD (2 copies of photo) > > Grace D. ROWLAND and friends at Myron's party > > Dr. Delta ROWLAND with STITZEL Family children > > Grace ROWLAND > > Christian ROWLAND and Sadie E. LICHTY ROWLAND > > . Christian ROWLAND was b. 5 Aug 1855 in Carroll Co. IL to > parents Isaac ROWLAND (b. 10 Apr 1820 in Hagerstown, MD-1894) and Mary Ann > STITZEL (b. 21 Aug 1825 in Greencastle, PA-1892). He had a brother David > ROWLAND (1849-1933) and two sisters, Loretta ROWLAND b. 3 Dec 1860 and > Elizabeth ROWLAND b. 1852. Sarah Eulila "Sadie" LICHTY was b. 14 Dec 1857 > in Somerset Co. PA to parents Samuel J. LICHTY (1827-1907) and Catherine > MILLER (1827-1911). She was one of 6 children born to this couple > including, Mary Mollie; William S.; Daniel S.; Sarah; Albert M.; and Annie > LICHTY. She and Christian had five children, Delta E.; Christian Earl; > Grace Darling; Samuel Joy; and Charles ROWLAND. Sadie died 27 Feb 1902 in > Lanark, IL and is buried in the Lanark City Cemetery in Lanark, IL. After > Sadie's death Christian married Sarah MILLER HARRINGTON. > > > > Minnie HARRINGTON SKILES and Grace ROWLAND SPECK BOOSE > > . Minnie Burbus HARRINGTON was b. 1886 in IL to William > HARRINGTON (b. 1846) and Sarah Herrington MILLER (b. 1855). Minnie was one > of 5 children born to this couple including, Daniel W.; Annanetta; Mary; > Minnie B.; and Samuel J. HARRINGTON. Minnie married Oral SKILES (1884-1979) > and together they had two children including a son Robert H. SKILES > (1915-2008). Minnie died 25 Apr 1980 in Freeland, WA > > > > Delta ROWLAND - infant > > Delta ROWLAND - teens > > Mrs. ROWLAND and unidentified women > > Joy ROWLAND and Grace ROWLAND > > Christian ROWLAND and Family including Earl, Delta, Samuel Joy, and Grace > Darling, and Sadie > > . Christian Earl ROWLAND was b. 30 Mar 1885 in Carroll Co. IL to > parents Christian ROWLAND (1855-1935) and Sarah Eulila LICHTY (1857-1902). > He married Aleta M. STEVENS (b. 1887) and together they had two children, a > daughter, Emily Euleta ROWLAND b. 1908 and a son, Rexford Earl "Rex" ROWLAND > (1913-2002). He married a second time to Alice May THAYER (1875-1967). > Christian Earl died in 1960 in Yakima Co. WA and is buried in the Old > Sunnyside Cemetery in Sunnyside, WA. Dr. Samuel Joy ROWLAND was b. 13 Nov > 1890 in Lanark, IL to the same parents and married Emma or Edna C. or Norma > GEORGE (1892-1967) on 13 May 1915 in Sunnyside, WA. The couple had 4 > children including, Samuel John; Madeline Joy; George Keith; and Romona > Claire ROWLAND, all born between 1915 and 1929. Samuel Joy died 15 May 1929 > in Yakima Co. WA and is buried along with family members in the Old > Sunnyside Cemetery in Sunnyside, WA. > > > > Hazel WILD, Grace ROWLAND, and Aleta STEVENS > > . Hazel Eleanor WILD was b. 8 Apr 1888 in Lanark, IL to parents > William Greason WILD (1859-1936) and Anna Dorothea "Annie" HARMAN > (1863-1944). Hazel was one of 4 children born to this couple including, > Claude Monroe; Hazel; Marjorie Anna; and Hellen or Helen Elizabeth WILD, all > born between 1886 and 1900. Hazel married Charles Cornelius LAFFERTY > (1890-1947) and together they had three boys including, Charles Arlington; > James Robert; and John William "Jack" LAFFERTY, all born between 1910 and > 1927. Hazel died 25 Oct 1969 in Chelan, WA. > > > > ROWLAND, FRANKS, HARRINGTON, SKILES, and STUCKMAN Families - 59 members > pictured > > ROWLAND Family Group - 21 members pictured > > ROWLAND Family Group - 16 members pictured > > > > Some of the census records I was able to locate include the following > details: > > > > 1900 census of Lima Township, Carroll Co. IL: > > > > George FRANKS, age 50, born Aug 1849, married 13 years, born IL, parents > born England, a Farmer > > Margaret FRANKS, wife, age 44, born May 1856, married 13 years, 2 children/1 > living, born PA, parents born PA > > Clifford FRANKS, son, age 11, born Sept 1888, born IL > > Charles FRANKS, son, age 23, born Aug 1876, born IL, parents born IL/PA, a > College Student > > Robert FRANKS, son, age 19, born Aug 1880, born IL, parents born IL/PA, a > Farm Laborer > > Sarah FRANKS, sister, age 53, born Mar 1847, born IL, parents born England > > Charles MCCULLOUGH, father-in-law, age 78, born Jun 1822, a widower, born > PA, parents born PA, a Carpenter > > + 1 Boarder > > > > 1900 census of Rock Creek, IL: > > > > Carrie STEVENS, age 32, born Aug 1868, a widow, 3 children/2 living, born > IL, mother born OH, a Capitalist > > Aleta STEVENS, dau, age 11, born Jul 1888, born KS, parents born IL, at > School > > Emily STEVENS, dau, age 9, born Dec 1890, born KS, parents born IL, at > School > > > > William WILD, age 40, born Aug 1859, married 15 years, born PA, parents born > PA, an Editor > > Annie WILD, wife, age 36, born Jul 1863, married 15 years, 3 children/3 > living, born PA, parents born PA > > Claude WILD, son, age 13, born Jun 1886, born IL, at School > > Hazel WILD, dau, age 12, born Apr 1888, born IL, at School > > Marjorie A. WILD, dau, age 5, born Aug 1894, born IL > > > > 1910 census of Chicago, IL: > > > > Clifford G. FRANKS, age 21, married 6 months, born IL, parents born IL/PA, a > Grain Sampler > > Hazel M. FRANKS, wife, age 22, married 6 months, no children, born IL, > parents born Canada/IL > > > > 1920 census of Chicago, IL: > > > > Clifford FRANKS, age 31, born IL, parents born IL, a Federal Grain Inspector > > Hazel M. FRANKS, wife, age 32, born IL, parents born Canada/IL > > Richard W. FRANKS, son, age 7, born IL > > > > 1920 census of Sunnyside, WA: > > > > Oral SKILES, age 35, born IL, parents born USA/IL, a Hardware Merchant > > Minnie B. SKILES, wife, age 33, born IL, parents born PA > > Robert H. SKILES, son, age 4 years + 4 months, born WA > > > > 1940 census of Sunnyside City, WA: > > > > Oral SKILES, age 53, born IL, a Retail Hardware Merchant > > Minnie B. SKILES, wife, age 53, born IL > > Barbara Jean SKILES, dau, age 18, born WA > > > > Delta ROWLAND, age 56, born IL, a Physician > > > > In addition to this group of loose photographs, I've also recovered two > albums originally belonging to Sadie ROWLAND include more than 150 > photographs belonging to all related families as well as KEIM, SHOEMAKER, > HARRISON, BEACHY, LICHTY, MUSSELMAN, RIDGE, MILLER, and GROSSMAN Family > members. I am hoping to be able to return all the photographs to families > and would appreciate you contacting me if you are a member of this group of > families or you know someone who might be. > > > > Thanks, > > Shelley > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've "rescued" a group of ROWLAND Family photographs (17 total) and two photograph albums as well. The group of 17 loose photographs include the following people and based on limited research I've included some additional information that I discovered regarding the family and those in the photographs: Delta ROWLAND . Dr. Delta Eulita or Eulilla ROWLAND was b. Dec 1883 in IL to parents Christian ROWLAND (1855-1935) and Sarah Eulila LICHTY (1857-1902). She died in 1941 in Yakima Co. WA and is buried in the Old Sunnyside Cemetery in Sunnyside, WA Grace ROWLAND and Clifford FRANKS at Lainesville about 1906 . Clifford G. FRANKS was b. 17 Sept 1888 in Brookville, IL to parents George FRANKS and Margaret or Catherine COWAN or COWEN. He married Hazel M. CLOTHIER or CLOSHIER (b. 1888 to parents Will CLOTHIER or CLOSHIER and Della HAWES) on 6 Oct 1909 in Kane, IL. Clifford d. 19 Aug 1936 in Chicago, IL and is buried in the Fairmount Cemetery in Polo, IL. He was living in Nashville, TN when he registered for the draft in 1917. Grace Darling ROWLAND was b. 4 Jul 1888 in Lanark, IL to Christian ROWLAND and Sarah LICHTY as noted below. She married Clayton SPECK (b. 3 Sept 1885) on 28 Nov 1908. Joy ROWLAND & Grace ROWLAND with Z. T. LIVENGOOD (2 copies of photo) Grace D. ROWLAND and friends at Myron's party Dr. Delta ROWLAND with STITZEL Family children Grace ROWLAND Christian ROWLAND and Sadie E. LICHTY ROWLAND . Christian ROWLAND was b. 5 Aug 1855 in Carroll Co. IL to parents Isaac ROWLAND (b. 10 Apr 1820 in Hagerstown, MD-1894) and Mary Ann STITZEL (b. 21 Aug 1825 in Greencastle, PA-1892). He had a brother David ROWLAND (1849-1933) and two sisters, Loretta ROWLAND b. 3 Dec 1860 and Elizabeth ROWLAND b. 1852. Sarah Eulila "Sadie" LICHTY was b. 14 Dec 1857 in Somerset Co. PA to parents Samuel J. LICHTY (1827-1907) and Catherine MILLER (1827-1911). She was one of 6 children born to this couple including, Mary Mollie; William S.; Daniel S.; Sarah; Albert M.; and Annie LICHTY. She and Christian had five children, Delta E.; Christian Earl; Grace Darling; Samuel Joy; and Charles ROWLAND. Sadie died 27 Feb 1902 in Lanark, IL and is buried in the Lanark City Cemetery in Lanark, IL. After Sadie's death Christian married Sarah MILLER HARRINGTON. Minnie HARRINGTON SKILES and Grace ROWLAND SPECK BOOSE . Minnie Burbus HARRINGTON was b. 1886 in IL to William HARRINGTON (b. 1846) and Sarah Herrington MILLER (b. 1855). Minnie was one of 5 children born to this couple including, Daniel W.; Annanetta; Mary; Minnie B.; and Samuel J. HARRINGTON. Minnie married Oral SKILES (1884-1979) and together they had two children including a son Robert H. SKILES (1915-2008). Minnie died 25 Apr 1980 in Freeland, WA Delta ROWLAND - infant Delta ROWLAND - teens Mrs. ROWLAND and unidentified women Joy ROWLAND and Grace ROWLAND Christian ROWLAND and Family including Earl, Delta, Samuel Joy, and Grace Darling, and Sadie . Christian Earl ROWLAND was b. 30 Mar 1885 in Carroll Co. IL to parents Christian ROWLAND (1855-1935) and Sarah Eulila LICHTY (1857-1902). He married Aleta M. STEVENS (b. 1887) and together they had two children, a daughter, Emily Euleta ROWLAND b. 1908 and a son, Rexford Earl "Rex" ROWLAND (1913-2002). He married a second time to Alice May THAYER (1875-1967). Christian Earl died in 1960 in Yakima Co. WA and is buried in the Old Sunnyside Cemetery in Sunnyside, WA. Dr. Samuel Joy ROWLAND was b. 13 Nov 1890 in Lanark, IL to the same parents and married Emma or Edna C. or Norma GEORGE (1892-1967) on 13 May 1915 in Sunnyside, WA. The couple had 4 children including, Samuel John; Madeline Joy; George Keith; and Romona Claire ROWLAND, all born between 1915 and 1929. Samuel Joy died 15 May 1929 in Yakima Co. WA and is buried along with family members in the Old Sunnyside Cemetery in Sunnyside, WA. Hazel WILD, Grace ROWLAND, and Aleta STEVENS . Hazel Eleanor WILD was b. 8 Apr 1888 in Lanark, IL to parents William Greason WILD (1859-1936) and Anna Dorothea "Annie" HARMAN (1863-1944). Hazel was one of 4 children born to this couple including, Claude Monroe; Hazel; Marjorie Anna; and Hellen or Helen Elizabeth WILD, all born between 1886 and 1900. Hazel married Charles Cornelius LAFFERTY (1890-1947) and together they had three boys including, Charles Arlington; James Robert; and John William "Jack" LAFFERTY, all born between 1910 and 1927. Hazel died 25 Oct 1969 in Chelan, WA. ROWLAND, FRANKS, HARRINGTON, SKILES, and STUCKMAN Families - 59 members pictured ROWLAND Family Group - 21 members pictured ROWLAND Family Group - 16 members pictured Some of the census records I was able to locate include the following details: 1900 census of Lima Township, Carroll Co. IL: George FRANKS, age 50, born Aug 1849, married 13 years, born IL, parents born England, a Farmer Margaret FRANKS, wife, age 44, born May 1856, married 13 years, 2 children/1 living, born PA, parents born PA Clifford FRANKS, son, age 11, born Sept 1888, born IL Charles FRANKS, son, age 23, born Aug 1876, born IL, parents born IL/PA, a College Student Robert FRANKS, son, age 19, born Aug 1880, born IL, parents born IL/PA, a Farm Laborer Sarah FRANKS, sister, age 53, born Mar 1847, born IL, parents born England Charles MCCULLOUGH, father-in-law, age 78, born Jun 1822, a widower, born PA, parents born PA, a Carpenter + 1 Boarder 1900 census of Rock Creek, IL: Carrie STEVENS, age 32, born Aug 1868, a widow, 3 children/2 living, born IL, mother born OH, a Capitalist Aleta STEVENS, dau, age 11, born Jul 1888, born KS, parents born IL, at School Emily STEVENS, dau, age 9, born Dec 1890, born KS, parents born IL, at School William WILD, age 40, born Aug 1859, married 15 years, born PA, parents born PA, an Editor Annie WILD, wife, age 36, born Jul 1863, married 15 years, 3 children/3 living, born PA, parents born PA Claude WILD, son, age 13, born Jun 1886, born IL, at School Hazel WILD, dau, age 12, born Apr 1888, born IL, at School Marjorie A. WILD, dau, age 5, born Aug 1894, born IL 1910 census of Chicago, IL: Clifford G. FRANKS, age 21, married 6 months, born IL, parents born IL/PA, a Grain Sampler Hazel M. FRANKS, wife, age 22, married 6 months, no children, born IL, parents born Canada/IL 1920 census of Chicago, IL: Clifford FRANKS, age 31, born IL, parents born IL, a Federal Grain Inspector Hazel M. FRANKS, wife, age 32, born IL, parents born Canada/IL Richard W. FRANKS, son, age 7, born IL 1920 census of Sunnyside, WA: Oral SKILES, age 35, born IL, parents born USA/IL, a Hardware Merchant Minnie B. SKILES, wife, age 33, born IL, parents born PA Robert H. SKILES, son, age 4 years + 4 months, born WA 1940 census of Sunnyside City, WA: Oral SKILES, age 53, born IL, a Retail Hardware Merchant Minnie B. SKILES, wife, age 53, born IL Barbara Jean SKILES, dau, age 18, born WA Delta ROWLAND, age 56, born IL, a Physician In addition to this group of loose photographs, I've also recovered two albums originally belonging to Sadie ROWLAND include more than 150 photographs belonging to all related families as well as KEIM, SHOEMAKER, HARRISON, BEACHY, LICHTY, MUSSELMAN, RIDGE, MILLER, and GROSSMAN Family members. I am hoping to be able to return all the photographs to families and would appreciate you contacting me if you are a member of this group of families or you know someone who might be. Thanks, Shelley

Tsla has their microfilm inventories online. Check those to see which roll you need. Then search FS for that deed book. On July 17, 2014, at 10:44PM, Dianne Armstrong via wrote: Hi I am trying to locate a deed for a 21 yr. old enslaved man sold in Nashville by my ancestor John Walter Evans. I ordered a deed search from the TSLA for 1850-1855 and 1855-1860 and learned that deeds for sales of slaves weren't indexed so it requires searching the microfilm page by page which I'm happy to do but the TSLA don't interlibrary loan those and I'm in the other end of the country. They sell them for $25 but this is a long shot to even find it and I don't know when it happened but sometime between 1851-1865. I was going to order the film from the FHL but I sure can't see anything except an authored deed book which can't be ordered through the FHL. Is there something else I should be looking for other than the word "deed books" to find the long version of the deed books on film? Thank you, Dianne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I am trying to locate a deed for a 21 yr. old enslaved man sold in Nashville by my ancestor John Walter Evans. I ordered a deed search from the TSLA for 1850-1855 and 1855-1860 and learned that deeds for sales of slaves weren't indexed so it requires searching the microfilm page by page which I'm happy to do but the TSLA don't interlibrary loan those and I'm in the other end of the country. They sell them for $25 but this is a long shot to even find it and I don't know when it happened but sometime between 1851-1865. I was going to order the film from the FHL but I sure can't see anything except an authored deed book which can't be ordered through the FHL. Is there something else I should be looking for other than the word "deed books" to find the long version of the deed books on film? Thank you, Dianne

It was South of the Ohio River. On July 15, 2014, at 11:33AM, tndavids@rootsweb.com wrote: There used to be an area called Territory south of the Ohio. Not sure what years, but was before Tn was a state.   On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 5:05 PM, Dibrellion <dibrellion@verizon.net> wrote: Hi Folks, --- I am trying to figure out if the Nashville, Davidson County, or Cheatham County area in Tennessee could at one time have been considered to be in Illinois. I have looked at maps and timelines for the development of Tennessee, Virginia, and North Carolina, but it isn't clear to me. I believe Virginia at one time included land that later became Illinois, but I can't figure how Tennessee fits into the picture. --- The 1880 Census for Tennessee states that an ancestor was born in Illinois abt 1830, however we have other sources that state that he was born in Davidson County, Tennessee. --- Can someone clarify this for me or recommend a website, book, or map that would be helpful? --- Many thanks, Valerie Gibbs ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There used to be an area called Territory south of the Ohio. Not sure what years, but was before Tn was a state.   On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 5:05 PM, Dibrellion <dibrellion@verizon.net> wrote: Hi Folks, --- I am trying to figure out if the Nashville, Davidson County, or Cheatham County area in Tennessee could at one time have been considered to be in Illinois. I have looked at maps and timelines for the development of Tennessee, Virginia, and North Carolina, but it isn't clear to me. I believe Virginia at one time included land that later became Illinois, but I can't figure how Tennessee fits into the picture. --- The 1880 Census for Tennessee states that an ancestor was born in Illinois abt 1830, however we have other sources that state that he was born in Davidson County, Tennessee. --- Can someone clarify this for me or recommend a website, book, or map that would be helpful? --- Many thanks, Valerie Gibbs ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Faye, you are so kind to offer your help. I am researching Thomas Hobby Puckett from Williamson County, TN he died in 1802, do you think there would be anything there that would help me. I am trying to connect him to his father Richard Puckett from Henrico/Prince Edward/Amelia Counties, VA. Thanks for being so kind. Margie -----Original Message----- From: Faye Majors Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 3:47 PM To: tndavids-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNDAVIDS] Nashville Archives If I can help anyone with a lookup at the state archives or nashville archives PLEASE let me know ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Faye,  Would there be records for Dickson County, TN there? I am searching for probate records for William B. West who died in Dickson Co, TN 1820/1821. He came to Dickson County from Bertie, NC before 1812. There was a William West Billips that changed his name to William B. West in Bertie. I suspect it is this man. I am hoping to find a connection to Billips in his probate records. I have been through the ones on familysearch.org with no luck. His wife is Elizabeth and William West Billips married an Elizabeth Fleetwood. I would love to know if there is a connection to that family in the records also. William B. West is my 4th great grandfather and I would love to know if his birth name was Billips and not West. That is so sweet of you to offer to do a look-up. I appreciate it so much!  Thank you! Lisa  On Saturday, July 12, 2014 7:49 PM, "tndavids@rootsweb.com" <tndavids@rootsweb.com> wrote: Faye, you are so kind to offer your help.  I am researching Thomas Hobby Puckett from Williamson County, TN he died in 1802, do you think there would be anything there that would help me.  I am trying to connect him to his father Richard Puckett from Henrico/Prince Edward/Amelia Counties, VA. Thanks for being so kind. Margie -----Original Message----- From: Faye Majors Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 3:47 PM To: tndavids-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [TNDAVIDS] Nashville Archives If I can help anyone  with a lookup at the state archives or nashville archives PLEASE let me know ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry for the last message. I thought I had deleted the unnecessary parts. Hi again, Thank you all for your replies; I'll keep your suggestions in mind. The US Genweb map for Tennessee where you click on the different years and see the formation of the counties, is very interesting, as are the other sites you all mentioned. Cheryl's idea that the ancestor was born in Tennessee and moved to Illinois is a good possibility. If you go to www.mapsofworld.com/usa/, you can see that the upper northwest corner of Tennessee is very close to Illinois. Tennessee, Missouri, and Kentucky meet in the northwest corner of Tennessee and Illinois reaches down almost to where these states meet. At this point, Tennessee is probably only 20-30 miles from Illinois. Another person reminded me that the birthplaces listed on the censuses can often be wrong. I'm not quite ready to accept this, as both the 1860 and 1880 censuses gave the birthplace as Illinois. An online acquaintance who is working on this same line is out of town right now, but when she returns, we'll discuss it. If she has any new ideas, I'll let you all know. Thanks again, Valerie Gibbs

On 07/08/14, CHERYL HORNE wrote: Valerie, He probably was born in Davidson Co TN and the family moved across the river. At one time Virginia went all the way to the Mississippi River, that included Illinois and Tn.....just as North Carolina was part of Viriginia too! 2 Great books to have are: Map Guide to the U.S. Federal Censuses 1790-1920 by William Thorndale and William Dollarhide. and The Handy Book for Genealogists Everton Publishers., Inc. Logan, Utah. hope this helps Cheryl On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 4:43 PM, Linda Holley <ljholley@gmail.com> wrote: Hi again, Thank you all for your replies; I'll keep your suggestions in mind. The US Genweb map for Tennessee where you click on the different years and see the formation of the counties, is very interesting, as are the other sites you all mentioned. Cheryl's idea that the ancestor was born in Tennessee and moved to Illinois is a good possibility. If you go to www.mapsofworld.com/usa/, you can see that the upper northwest corner of Tennessee is very close to Illinois. Tennessee, Missouri, and Kentucky meet in the northwest corner of Tennessee and Illinois reaches down almost to where these states meet. At this point, Tennessee is probably only 20-30 miles from Illinois. Another person reminded me that the birthplaces listed on the censuses can often be wrong. I'm not quite ready to accept this, as both the 1860 and 1880 censuses gave the birthplace as Illinois. An online acquaintance who is working on this same line is out of town right now, but when she returns, we'll discuss it. If she has any new ideas, I'll let you all know. Thanks again, Valerie Gibbs > Hi Folks, > --- > I am trying to figure out if the Nashville, Davidson County, or Cheatham County area in Tennessee could at one time have been considered to be in Illinois. I have looked at maps and timelines for the development of Tennessee, Virginia, and North Carolina, but it isn't clear to me. I believe Virginia at one time included land that later became Illinois, but I can't figure how Tennessee fits into the picture. > --- > The 1880 Census for Tennessee states that an ancestor was born in Illinois abt 1830, however we have other sources that state that he was born in Davidson County, Tennessee. > --- > Can someone clarify this for me or recommend a website, book, or map that would be helpful? > --- > Many thanks, Valerie Gibbs > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many Tennesseans migrated to Illinois between 1820 to 1840. Several branches of my family, from various middle TN counties, were separated by this quest for cheap land. Illinois did State Censuses in 1825, 1830, and 1835. This is very helpful in learning when our ancestors arrived in IL, (as of course are their Deed records). ancestry.com has all these IL State Census in their database. They are easier to access by selecting the Search "Card Catalog" feature. You need to check these records to find the earliest date your ancestor's father was in IL. Another source is the Davidson County Deed records to see if / when the father sold his TN land. If you do not subscribe to ancestry.com, I will be happy to do a lookup for you. Email me off line at jak.ish@verizon.net Kathleen in CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dibrellion" <dibrellion@verizon.net> To: <tndavids@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] Tennessee Origins ? > > > > On 07/08/14, CHERYL HORNE wrote: > > Valerie, > He probably was born in Davidson Co TN and the family moved across the > river. > At one time Virginia went all the way to the Mississippi River, that > included Illinois and Tn.....just as North Carolina was part of Viriginia > too! > 2 Great books to have are: > Map Guide to the U.S. Federal Censuses 1790-1920 by William Thorndale and > William Dollarhide. > and > The Handy Book for Genealogists Everton Publishers., Inc. Logan, Utah. > > hope this helps > Cheryl > > > > On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 4:43 PM, Linda Holley <ljholley@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi again, > > Thank you all for your replies; I'll keep your suggestions in mind. The US > Genweb map for Tennessee where you click on the different years and see > the formation of the counties, is very interesting, as are the other sites > you all mentioned. Cheryl's idea that the ancestor was born in Tennessee > and moved to Illinois is a good possibility. If you go to > www.mapsofworld.com/usa/, you can see that the upper northwest corner of > Tennessee is very close to Illinois. Tennessee, Missouri, and Kentucky > meet in the northwest corner of Tennessee and Illinois reaches down almost > to where these states meet. At this point, Tennessee is probably only > 20-30 miles from Illinois. > > Another person reminded me that the birthplaces listed on the censuses can > often be wrong. I'm not quite ready to accept this, as both the 1860 and > 1880 censuses gave the birthplace as Illinois. > An online acquaintance who is working on this same line is out of town > right now, but when she returns, we'll discuss it. If she has any new > ideas, I'll let you all know. > > Thanks again, Valerie Gibbs > > > >> Hi Folks, >> --- >> I am trying to figure out if the Nashville, Davidson County, or Cheatham >> County area in Tennessee could at one time have been considered to be in >> Illinois. I have looked at maps and timelines for the development of >> Tennessee, Virginia, and North Carolina, but it isn't clear to me. I >> believe Virginia at one time included land that later became Illinois, >> but I can't figure how Tennessee fits into the picture. >> --- >> The 1880 Census for Tennessee states that an ancestor was born in >> Illinois abt 1830, however we have other sources that state that he was >> born in Davidson County, Tennessee. >> --- >> Can someone clarify this for me or recommend a website, book, or map that >> would be helpful? >> --- >> Many thanks, Valerie Gibbs >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 10072 (20140709) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 10073 (20140710) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Valerie, You reminded me with your post, that one of my Tennessee ancestors was from TN and crossed the river near Fulton, to Illinois and they farmed there in Illinois, and later came back across the river to TN! There was a ferry at that site, and I know it went to Cairo, Illinois, as that is where my g.g. grandfather left when he went off to the Civil War across the river to Cairo!  He had been living in the Henry Co TN. Cheryl   On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:54 PM, Dibrellion <dibrellion@verizon.net> wrote: Sorry for the last message. I thought I had deleted the unnecessary parts. Hi again, Thank you all for your replies; I'll keep your suggestions in mind. The US Genweb map for Tennessee where you click on the different years and see the formation of the counties, is very interesting, as are the other sites you all mentioned. Cheryl's idea that the ancestor was born in Tennessee and moved to Illinois is a good possibility. If you go to www.mapsofworld.com/usa/, you can see that the upper northwest corner of Tennessee is very close to Illinois. Tennessee, Missouri, and Kentucky meet in the northwest corner of Tennessee and Illinois reaches down almost to where these states meet. At this point, Tennessee is probably only 20-30 miles from Illinois. Another person reminded me that the birthplaces listed on the censuses can often be wrong. I'm not quite ready to accept this, as both the 1860 and 1880 censuses gave the birthplace as Illinois. An online acquaintance who is working on this same line is out of town right now, but when she returns, we'll discuss it. If she has any new ideas, I'll let you all know. Thanks again, Valerie Gibbs ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maybe his was born in Tennesse, IL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee,_Illinois At 07:33 PM 7/8/2014, Debie Cox wrote: >By 1830 Tennessee (1796) and Illinois (1818) were both states and there was >no cross over. If he was born in Illinois in 1830 then there would have >been no way to confuse that place with Tennessee. Two separate place many >miles apart in 1830. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try this site - http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~george/countyformations/tennesseeformationmaps.html On Jul 8, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Dibrellion wrote: > Hi Folks, > --- > I am trying to figure out if the Nashville, Davidson County, or Cheatham County area in Tennessee could at one time have been considered to be in Illinois. I have looked at maps and timelines for the development of Tennessee, Virginia, and North Carolina, but it isn't clear to me. I believe Virginia at one time included land that later became Illinois, but I can't figure how Tennessee fits into the picture. > --- > The 1880 Census for Tennessee states that an ancestor was born in Illinois abt 1830, however we have other sources that state that he was born in Davidson County, Tennessee. > --- > Can someone clarify this for me or recommend a website, book, or map that would be helpful? > --- > Many thanks, Valerie Gibbs > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

By 1830 Tennessee (1796) and Illinois (1818) were both states and there was no cross over. If he was born in Illinois in 1830 then there would have been no way to confuse that place with Tennessee. Two separate place many miles apart in 1830.

Us genweb has a formation map for the different areas. Just go to the co site and it Wii show you the changes by year. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Gene Phillips <gnphllps@comcast.net> </div><div>Date:07/08/2014 3:36 PM (GMT-07:00) </div><div>To: tndavids@rootsweb.com </div><div>Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] Tennessee Origins ? </div><div> </div> Cheatham County was formed in 1856 from parts of Davidson & Dickson County. Before westward exploration the states of PA, VA, NC claimed everything due west of the state. Hence NC claimed TN and VA claimed KY and part of OH, IN and IL. Sullivan was the first county formed in 1779. Name Changed to Hawkins 1786. Davidson and Greene Counties were formed in 1783 from Washington County NC. Davidson County being essentially Middle TN and Greene County Eastern TN except for that of Sullivan County. All still considered part of NC until 1790 when "The Territory South of the River Ohio" was formed. TN became a state in 1796 Gene At 05:04 PM 7/8/2014, Dibrellion wrote: > Hi Folks, >--- >I am trying to figure out if the Nashville, Davidson County, or Cheatham County area in Tennessee could at one time have been considered to be in Illinois. I have looked at maps and timelines for the development of Tennessee, Virginia, and North Carolina, but it isn't clear to me. I believe Virginia at one time included land that later became Illinois, but I can't figure how Tennessee fits into the picture. >--- >The 1880 Census for Tennessee states that an ancestor was born in Illinois abt 1830, however we have other sources that state that he was born in Davidson County, Tennessee. >--- >Can someone clarify this for me or recommend a website, book, or map that would be helpful? >--- >Many thanks, Valerie Gibbs > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gene What a great summary! Underscoring North Carolina's early "ownership" of what would become Tennessee, North Carolina set aside large quantities of land to be granted veterans of the Revolutionary War. This served as both a reward for faithful service and as an incentive to settle the territory. Gary Willis Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Gene Phillips <gnphllps@comcast.net> wrote: > > Cheatham County was formed in 1856 from parts of Davidson & Dickson County. Before westward exploration the states of PA, VA, NC claimed everything due west of the state. Hence NC claimed TN and VA claimed KY and part of OH, IN and IL. > Sullivan was the first county formed in 1779. Name Changed to Hawkins 1786. > Davidson and Greene Counties were formed in 1783 from Washington County NC. Davidson County being essentially Middle TN and Greene County Eastern TN except for that of Sullivan County. All still considered part of NC until 1790 when "The Territory South of the River Ohio" was formed. TN became a state in 1796 > > Gene > > At 05:04 PM 7/8/2014, Dibrellion wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> --- >> I am trying to figure out if the Nashville, Davidson County, or Cheatham County area in Tennessee could at one time have been considered to be in Illinois. I have looked at maps and timelines for the development of Tennessee, Virginia, and North Carolina, but it isn't clear to me. I believe Virginia at one time included land that later became Illinois, but I can't figure how Tennessee fits into the picture. >> --- >> The 1880 Census for Tennessee states that an ancestor was born in Illinois abt 1830, however we have other sources that state that he was born in Davidson County, Tennessee. >> --- >> Can someone clarify this for me or recommend a website, book, or map that would be helpful? >> --- >> Many thanks, Valerie Gibbs >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message