My great-grandfather, James Lawson Steele, died at Central State July 23, 1919, and apparently buried there on the grounds. There were two cemeteries. One for whites. One for Blacks. James was born in DeKalb County, TN July 1879 so was right at age 40. He was epileptic, and they just locked him up in that hell-hole. I'd love to find his remains and have them sent back to DeKalb county, where my great-grandmother, Oma Green (Smith) Steele (1880 - 1933) is buried. Willie Smith --- On Thu, 10/28/10, Lorene Lambert <Lorene.Lambert@tn.gov> wrote: From: Lorene Lambert <Lorene.Lambert@tn.gov> Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] TNDAVIDS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 56 To: tndavids@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 2010, 10:20 AM I wish to respond to the comment that bureaucrats hide behind HIPPA. With regard to Central State, few record exist, and it is unfortunate that in the early 1900s, people did not keep good records. Persons who were sent to the mental hospitals were often "discarded" by their families. It is possible that patients were buried on hospital grounds as their relatives would not take their bodies back. Ignorance about mental illnesses and stigma was and still is a big problem. We do not hide behind HIPPA, and as a genealogist working in the system, it breaks my heart that we often have no record or cannot even find the grave of a patient. The black cemetery for Central State is now on airport property and hard to access. The white cemetery is on Dell property. There are people working to honor those buried and to list as many names as possible. Census records are sometimes the only alternative to finding someone, and a death record will at least tell when someone died and of what ! cause. I sent the individual wanting information the links on Tennessee's genweb pages that give the best info and links to finding patients. It is at http://www.tngenweb.org/poor/ and is a starting point. If you want to change the system on HIPPA for old records, write to your congressmen and women and make it a campaign to use reasonable access to records for relatives who are building family histories. Lorene Lambert Communications Office Tennessee Department of Mental Health & Developmental Disabilities ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wish to respond to the comment that bureaucrats hide behind HIPPA. With regard to Central State, few record exist, and it is unfortunate that in the early 1900s, people did not keep good records. Persons who were sent to the mental hospitals were often "discarded" by their families. It is possible that patients were buried on hospital grounds as their relatives would not take their bodies back. Ignorance about mental illnesses and stigma was and still is a big problem. We do not hide behind HIPPA, and as a genealogist working in the system, it breaks my heart that we often have no record or cannot even find the grave of a patient. The black cemetery for Central State is now on airport property and hard to access. The white cemetery is on Dell property. There are people working to honor those buried and to list as many names as possible. Census records are sometimes the only alternative to finding someone, and a death record will at least tell when someone died and of what cause. I sent the individual wanting information the links on Tennessee's genweb pages that give the best info and links to finding patients. It is at http://www.tngenweb.org/poor/ and is a starting point. If you want to change the system on HIPPA for old records, write to your congressmen and women and make it a campaign to use reasonable access to records for relatives who are building family histories. Lorene Lambert Communications Office Tennessee Department of Mental Health & Developmental Disabilities

Thanks Jane, I may pursue those medical records then because my half brother whose grandfather's medical records I would like to get would certainly help my nieces and nephews and their families. I retired long before HIPAA and will have to research my argument using that law. Lorraine On 10/27/2010 7:42 AM, Jane Colmenares wrote: > HIPAA specifically laid out two instances where someone could be allowed access > to a deceasd person's medical files. One instance is if they are the > personal representative designated by a will or appointed by a court to settle > the deceased's affairs, and the other instance is that a relative may receive > medical information about the deceased if the information has a bearing on the > relative's health. > > Jane Colmenares, A.C.N.P. > Davidson County TNGenWeb > http://sites.google.com/site/davidsoncounty > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Lorraine Moore<lmoore09@cox.net> > To: tndavids@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, October 27, 2010 7:22:55 AM > Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] Medical records > > On 10/27/2010 6:54 AM, Jeanne Johnson wrote: > >> I don't have experience with them but there is a federal law called something >> similar to the freedom of information act. Your request must be answered but you >> may have to pay for expenses involved in obtaining or preparing the records for >> you. Have you checked the obit that may state how many yrs she was in the >> facility? Somethings the death record also asks how many yrs the deceased lived >> in the locality. It also asked how many yrs she was under a doctors care...maybe >> this date will go back to her admittance. Was she divorced after admittance? >> Divorce records may state when she was admitted. Good luck! JJ >> >> >> > When trying to find some information on my husband's father in > Nashville, I was told "only next of kin or a guardian could get them". > My husband had already passed away, and his sister did not want to > pursue it. That was in 2003 or 2004. > > And I tried pursuing some records in Chicago, and was told only a > guardian could get them. This man died in 1945, and I could not have > been his guardian at age 15!! What a crock. Privacy on both requested > records were long past. > > Lorraine Moore > Baton Rouge, LA > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Sorry I was trying to forward this to a friend.. got in a hurry. excuse my blooper of sending it to the list... but its good information and repeating it cannot be all bad. <wink> Vivian In a message dated 10/27/2010 8:29:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, VHULL@aol.com writes: I didn't know how this worked... did you? In a message dated 10/27/2010 7:43:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, evancol@yahoo.com writes: HIPAA specifically laid out two instances where someone could be allowed access to a deceasd person's medical files. One instance is if they are the personal representative designated by a will or appointed by a court to settle the deceased's affairs, and the other instance is that a relative may receive medical information about the deceased if the information has a bearing on the relative's health. Jane Colmenares, A.C.N.P. Davidson County TNGenWeb http://sites.google.com/site/davidsoncounty ________________________________ From: Lorraine Moore <lmoore09@cox.net> To: tndavids@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, October 27, 2010 7:22:55 AM Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] Medical records On 10/27/2010 6:54 AM, Jeanne Johnson wrote: > > I don't have experience with them but there is a federal law called something >similar to the freedom of information act. Your request must be answered but you >may have to pay for expenses involved in obtaining or preparing the records for >you. Have you checked the obit that may state how many yrs she was in the >facility? Somethings the death record also asks how many yrs the deceased lived >in the locality. It also asked how many yrs she was under a doctors care...maybe >this date will go back to her admittance. Was she divorced after admittance? >Divorce records may state when she was admitted. Good luck! JJ > > When trying to find some information on my husband's father in Nashville, I was told "only next of kin or a guardian could get them". My husband had already passed away, and his sister did not want to pursue it. That was in 2003 or 2004. And I tried pursuing some records in Chicago, and was told only a guardian could get them. This man died in 1945, and I could not have been his guardian at age 15!! What a crock. Privacy on both requested records were long past. Lorraine Moore Baton Rouge, LA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I didn't know how this worked... did you? In a message dated 10/27/2010 7:43:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, evancol@yahoo.com writes: HIPAA specifically laid out two instances where someone could be allowed access to a deceasd person's medical files. One instance is if they are the personal representative designated by a will or appointed by a court to settle the deceased's affairs, and the other instance is that a relative may receive medical information about the deceased if the information has a bearing on the relative's health. Jane Colmenares, A.C.N.P. Davidson County TNGenWeb http://sites.google.com/site/davidsoncounty ________________________________ From: Lorraine Moore <lmoore09@cox.net> To: tndavids@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, October 27, 2010 7:22:55 AM Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] Medical records On 10/27/2010 6:54 AM, Jeanne Johnson wrote: > > I don't have experience with them but there is a federal law called something >similar to the freedom of information act. Your request must be answered but you >may have to pay for expenses involved in obtaining or preparing the records for >you. Have you checked the obit that may state how many yrs she was in the >facility? Somethings the death record also asks how many yrs the deceased lived >in the locality. It also asked how many yrs she was under a doctors care...maybe >this date will go back to her admittance. Was she divorced after admittance? >Divorce records may state when she was admitted. Good luck! JJ > > When trying to find some information on my husband's father in Nashville, I was told "only next of kin or a guardian could get them". My husband had already passed away, and his sister did not want to pursue it. That was in 2003 or 2004. And I tried pursuing some records in Chicago, and was told only a guardian could get them. This man died in 1945, and I could not have been his guardian at age 15!! What a crock. Privacy on both requested records were long past. Lorraine Moore Baton Rouge, LA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't have experience with them but there is a federal law called something similar to the freedom of information act. Your request must be answered but you may have to pay for expenses involved in obtaining or preparing the records for you. Have you checked the obit that may state how many yrs she was in the facility? Somethings the death record also asks how many yrs the deceased lived in the locality. It also asked how many yrs she was under a doctors care...maybe this date will go back to her admittance. Was she divorced after admittance? Divorce records may state when she was admitted. Good luck! JJ

On 10/27/2010 6:54 AM, Jeanne Johnson wrote: > > I don't have experience with them but there is a federal law called something similar to the freedom of information act. Your request must be answered but you may have to pay for expenses involved in obtaining or preparing the records for you. Have you checked the obit that may state how many yrs she was in the facility? Somethings the death record also asks how many yrs the deceased lived in the locality. It also asked how many yrs she was under a doctors care...maybe this date will go back to her admittance. Was she divorced after admittance? Divorce records may state when she was admitted. Good luck! JJ > > When trying to find some information on my husband's father in Nashville, I was told "only next of kin or a guardian could get them". My husband had already passed away, and his sister did not want to pursue it. That was in 2003 or 2004. And I tried pursuing some records in Chicago, and was told only a guardian could get them. This man died in 1945, and I could not have been his guardian at age 15!! What a crock. Privacy on both requested records were long past. Lorraine Moore Baton Rouge, LA

Diane, Have you contacted Central State and asked them. My mother was able to get a few records on her mother's time in the state's orphanage. But she could not request her aunts. I would think you'd need to be a direct descendant to get any records at all, and if you could prove there was a medical need, you might be able to get around HIPPA. I am not sure if HIPPA is your problem or bureaucrats hiding behind it. But either way, the more research you can do before you need a lawyer the better. I guess if the records aren't indexed, you may have to decide how bad you want the information. My first step would be the death certificate in 1952. It would give cause of death. That may give you a clue as to what happened. I don't know how good or if any records were kept by Central State. Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:tndavids-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dianne Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:47 PM To: Davidson Co Subject: [TNDAVIDS] Central Hosp. for the Insane, acquiring records Hi, first post to this list. I understand in TN that HIPAA is not time limited after a death as it is in some states and all records remain sealed without a court order. Does anyone have any experience with this? The woman at Archives said request court minutes from the resident county (DeKalb) to see if there are any court proceedings for clues but they aren't indexed, I don't know the admit date, seems rather remote. I know she was admitted between 1900-1910, and I believe she was there until her death in 1952. I called the Davidson county clerk, talked to numerous extensions and they said hire an attorney. That could get pricey and I live in Montana. Can anyone offer suggestions or do you have a contact person? I would appreciate hearing any experience with this. She was my great aunt. I'd really like to know what happened. Dianne Armstrong Surnames in Davidson Co: Reynolds, Williams, Holloway (I think), Johnson. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HIPAA specifically laid out two instances where someone could be allowed access to a deceasd person's medical files.  One instance is if they are the personal representative designated by a will or appointed by a court to settle the deceased's affairs, and the other instance is that a relative may receive medical information about the deceased if the information has a bearing on the relative's health.   Jane Colmenares, A.C.N.P. Davidson County TNGenWeb http://sites.google.com/site/davidsoncounty ________________________________ From: Lorraine Moore <lmoore09@cox.net> To: tndavids@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, October 27, 2010 7:22:55 AM Subject: Re: [TNDAVIDS] Medical records On 10/27/2010 6:54 AM, Jeanne Johnson wrote: > > I don't have experience with them but there is a federal law called something >similar to the freedom of information act. Your request must be answered but you >may have to pay for expenses involved in obtaining or preparing the records for >you. Have you checked the obit that may state how many yrs she was in the >facility? Somethings the death record also asks how many yrs the deceased lived >in the locality. It also asked how many yrs she was under a doctors care...maybe >this date will go back to her admittance. Was she divorced after admittance? >Divorce records may state when she was admitted. Good luck! JJ > >    When trying to find some information on my husband's father in Nashville, I was told "only next of kin or a guardian could get them".  My husband had already passed away, and his sister did not want to pursue it.  That was in 2003 or 2004. And I tried pursuing some records in Chicago, and was told only a guardian could get them.  This man died in 1945, and I could not have been his guardian at age 15!!  What a crock.  Privacy on both requested records were long past. Lorraine Moore Baton Rouge, LA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, first post to this list. I understand in TN that HIPAA is not time limited after a death as it is in some states and all records remain sealed without a court order. Does anyone have any experience with this? The woman at Archives said request court minutes from the resident county (DeKalb) to see if there are any court proceedings for clues but they aren't indexed, I don't know the admit date, seems rather remote. I know she was admitted between 1900-1910, and I believe she was there until her death in 1952. I called the Davidson county clerk, talked to numerous extensions and they said hire an attorney. That could get pricey and I live in Montana. Can anyone offer suggestions or do you have a contact person? I would appreciate hearing any experience with this. She was my great aunt. I'd really like to know what happened. Dianne Armstrong Surnames in Davidson Co: Reynolds, Williams, Holloway (I think), Johnson.

Subject: William F. Moore > Sure wish I could find the father of my: > > William F. Moore born 1795 in SC. died: before 1880 Butler Co Ky.? > in 1850 Bedford Co Tn. > in 1860 Cannon Co Tn. > in 1870 Butler Co Ky. > Married: Most likely Tn. > Elizabeth Arnold born @ 1804 Tn. > father: John Arnold > mother:Anne( maybe Jacobs) > children: > 1.John .A. born: 25 Oct. 1821 Bedford Co Tn.died: 23 Oct. 1882 > married: Mary Amanda Adams 11 Sept 1858 Rutherford Co Tn. > > 2.James E. born: 1827 Tn. (Bedford Co. Tn) > married: Susan B. (Frizzell) > in 1880 Butler Co Ky. > > 3.Amelia Caroline born: 11 July 1826/31 Bedford Co Tn. died: 15 July 1893 > in ARK. > married: #2.John Wesley Yeargain #1. James Gentry > > 4.Mary J. born: 1834 (Tn.) > married: Joseph A. Moore. Son of Obediah and Elizabeth Hendrick > Moore > of Butler Co Ky. > > 5.Sarah E. born: 1837 Tn died : before 1870 > married: Shelby Dye.Son of Lewis and Sarah Gaither Dye > in 1860 and 70 Butler Co Ky. > > 6.Wm. M C born: 1841 Tn. > married: Olivia F. Smith date:6 Jan.1867 Butler Co Ky. > > 7.Francis Jackson born: 19 Mar 1844 Bedford Co Tn. died: 3 Sep 1928 Butler > Co Ky. > married: Nancy A. Brown date: 10 Aug 1865 Rutherford Co Tn. > Nancy A. Brown born: 12 Mar 1850 Rutherford Co Tn. Daughter of Richard and > Elizabeth Thompson Brown > > 8.Barkley H C born: 1848 Tn. (Barclay) > married: Myrtle King 16 May 1908 Maury Co. Tn (N/P) > in 1860 with his parents in Butler Co Ky. > > 9.Anna A. > married: Belia Gaither. Son of Beli and Rachel Gaither. ? > in 1870 Butler Co Ky. > > He may have come from Chester Co.,Greenville Co., Anderson Co.'s SC, > Is this family related to the Moores of > Washington Co Va. ? > > No known males for DNA. Bummer. > > > Any help is appricated. > Diane Ricks > luckystar1313@comcast.net > > > > > > > > Remember, when replying to a gatewayed message, you need to click on the > blue link to take you to the query board. The poster may not be a member > of the mail list. > > Don't forget to check out the Moore DNA site to see if any of your > ancestors are listed: http://small-stuff.com/MOORE/ If you have a Moore > who is eligible to take the DNA test, please encourage them to have the > test done. Details on the DNA site. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MOORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Sure wish I could find the father of my: William F. Moore born 1795 in SC. died: before 1880 Butler Co Ky.? in 1850 Bedford Co Tn. in 1860 Cannon Co Tn. in 1870 Butler Co Ky. Married: Most likely Tn. Elizabeth Arnold born @ 1804 Tn. father: John Arnold mother:Anne( maybe Jacobs) children: 1.John .A. born: 25 Oct. 1821 Bedford Co Tn.died: 23 Oct. 1882 married: Mary Amanda Adams 11 Sept 1858 Rutherford Co Tn. 2.James E. born: 1827 Tn. (Bedford Co. Tn) married: Susan B. (Frizzell) in 1880 Butler Co Ky. 3.Amelia Caroline born: 11 July 1826/31 Bedford Co Tn. died: 15 July 1893 in ARK. married: #2.John Wesley Yeargain #1. James Gentry 4.Mary J. born: 1834 (Tn.) married: Joseph A. Moore. Son of Obediah and Elizabeth Hendrick Moore of Butler Co Ky. 5.Sarah E. born: 1837 Tn died : before 1870 married: Shelby Dye.Son of Lewis and Sarah Gaither Dye in 1860 and 70 Butler Co Ky. 6.Wm. M C born: 1841 Tn. married: Olivia F. Smith date:6 Jan.1867 Butler Co Ky. 7.Francis Jackson born: 19 Mar 1844 Bedford Co Tn. died: 3 Sep 1928 Butler Co Ky. married: Nancy A. Brown date: 10 Aug 1865 Rutherford Co Tn. Nancy A. Brown born: 12 Mar 1850 Rutherford Co Tn. Daughter of Richard and Elizabeth Thompson Brown 8.Barkley H C born: 1848 Tn. (Barclay) married: Myrtle King 16 May 1908 Maury Co. Tn (N/P) in 1860 with his parents in Butler Co Ky. 9.Anna A. married: Belia Gaither. Son of Beli and Rachel Gaither. ? in 1870 Butler Co Ky. He may have come from Chester Co.,Greenville Co., Anderson Co.'s SC, Is this family related to the Moores of Washington Co Va. ? No known males for DNA. Bummer. Any help is appricated. Diane Ricks luckystar1313@comcast.net Remember, when replying to a gatewayed message, you need to click on the blue link to take you to the query board. The poster may not be a member of the mail list. Don't forget to check out the Moore DNA site to see if any of your ancestors are listed: http://small-stuff.com/MOORE/ If you have a Moore who is eligible to take the DNA test, please encourage them to have the test done. Details on the DNA site. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MOORE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers Attempting to find living relatives of Judith Monica? Conway, nee Alexander. Last known address Nashville and she would be in her 80s if still alive. Judith was born in Australia, married an American seaman, Joseph Conway and had children Robin (male) Kimberley and Amber. Not much to go on but am hopeful. Sue In Australia

Lillian Frances Dozier Anderson September 2, 2010 COSHOCTON: Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace. Where there is hatred, let me show love, where there is injury, pardon, where there is doubt, faith, where there is darkness, light and where there is sadness and joy. O Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console, to be understood as to understand, to be loved as to love for it is in dying that we are born in to enternal life. Lillian Frances Dozier Anderson, age 85, of Coshocton, passed away on Sunday, August 29, 2010 in Zanesville, Ohio. She was born on July 7, 1925 in Nashville, Tennessee to the late Harold and Arebelle (Davidson) Dozier. In her early life she accepted Christ and was baptized in Jackson Street Church of Christ in Nashville, Tennessee. Frances as she was called by her family and most of her friends was quite serious in giving love to her family and friends. Her cheerful smile, her endearing concern, her many words of comfort and her eager willingness to always help will make her life long remembered. Frances married Emmett Edison Anderson in February 1947. In moving to Coshocton subsequent to her education at Pearl Senior High School and Nashville Christian School, she worked at M O'Neil's Department store for 31 years. After retiring she became a volunteer at Washington Elementary School for six years and Central Elementary for one year. She leaves to cherish her memory, her daughter, Reathel Anderson Scott of Columbus; and her son, Robert (Libby) Anderson Sr. of Coshocton; ten grandchildren, Regina (Robert) Stevenson, Sophia Barner, Robert Anderson Jr., Michael Carson, Staci (Marcus) Jenning, Natalie (Jason) Stafford, Adam Anderson, Jacquelin Scott, Abgail Anderson, and Deshawna Anderson; eight great-grandchildren; and very special friend, Rosie Roahrig. Along with her parents and husband who passed away in 1996, she was preceded in death by her daughter, Joan Anderson Barner Reese; five sisters; and four brothers. Funeral services will be held on Friday, September 3, 2010 at 1:00 p.m. at the Church of Christ, 1800 Chestnut Street, Coshocton, with Lloyd Tenney and Ernest Cato officiating. Burial will follow at South Lawn Cemetery. Calling hours will be held at the church from 11:00-1:00 p.m. An online memorial can be viewed at: www.given-dawsonfuneralhome.com http://www.coshoctontribune.com/article/20100902/OBITUARIES/9020302/1023

Do you know if there are any Pemberton's in this book? Thanks, Lisa --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Carolyn Johnson <mamawcarolyn@peoplepc.com> wrote: From: Carolyn Johnson <mamawcarolyn@peoplepc.com> Subject: [TNDAVIDS] Anderson County Will book To: "Anderson County" <TNANDERS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 10:23 AM The Pellissippi Genealogical and Historical Society's new book "Anderson County Wills 1830-1913" is now available.  You can pick them up from Mary Harris at the Anderson County Courthouse or order them from the society at 118 South Hicks Street, Clinton, TN 37716.  Price if you did not preorder is $45.00. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Pellissippi Genealogical and Historical Society's new book "Anderson County Wills 1830-1913" is now available. You can pick them up from Mary Harris at the Anderson County Courthouse or order them from the society at 118 South Hicks Street, Clinton, TN 37716. Price if you did not preorder is $45.00. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

On 8/14/2010 7:47 AM, Glenda Todd wrote: > I wouldn't normally list information about a new published book, but > several people on the list had expressed an interest in the new book I > just posted and I lost their addresses in a computer crash last month. > Hopefully the great people on the list will not object. > > Glenda > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNDAVIDS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > I don't know -- who knows how many more who were not aware of the book coming out and would be interested. You did us a favor. Thanks Lorraine

I wouldn't normally list information about a new published book, but several people on the list had expressed an interest in the new book I just posted and I lost their addresses in a computer crash last month. Hopefully the great people on the list will not object. Glenda

This is a revision of the first post as it contained a typographical error. Thanks Glenda McWhirter Todd has published a new book, Heartbreak of a Civil War Widow, which contains information on the life of Sarah Harper McWhirter growing up in Smith Co., TN as the oldest of 15 children, her marriage to Andrew Ferrier McWhirter, their wagon train trip from TN to northwest Alabama, and the life she endured during and after the Civil War as a Unionist in the heart of the Confederacy. They first lived on the border of Smith & Warren Counties in TN. The book is about Sarah Harper McWhirter who watched her husband, three children and three brothers go off to fight in the 1st AL Cav., USV, while two other brothers fought for the Confederacy. It ranges from the factional to fictionalized. The factual obviously being the facts dealing with families, dates of birth, marriage, death, and other historical events. Civil War documents and diaries were also used. The letters written to Sarah by her sons and brothers were based on Official Records, Thomas A. McWhirter's Civil War Diary and other diaries written by other 1st Alabama Cavalry USV members who were serving alongside her sons and brothers when they wrote home. The author has made every attempt to match the fictionalized portions with the documented experiences and actions of the true Sarah Harper McWhirter. Each of the excerpts from diaries, Southern Claims, Civil War Pension Applications, speeches, Official Records, wills, etc. was left in its own unique style. In some instances, the people who wrote them were illiterate but the spelling was used exactly as it was found. Vintage portraits of the Harper families, as well as others, and other photographs enhance the text. The book includes the Harper family history which has been traced back to Oxfordshire, Noke, England in the early 1500's. Heritage Books, Incorporated, T5252, $30 Several people on the list have expressed an interest in this book when it was published. The book can be ordered from the following website, which says it might be up to 3 months before it is ready but it has already been approved by the editor and sent to the printer so should not be that long, and they will not charge credit cards until it is shipped. [1]http://heritagebooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HBI&Pr oduct_Code=T5252&Category_Code= References 1. http://heritagebooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HBI&Product_Code=T5252&Category_Code=

Glenda McWhirter Todd has published a new book, Heartbreak of a Civil War Widow, which contains information on the life of Sarah Harper McWhirter growing up in Smith Co., TN as the oldest of 15 children, her marriage to Andrew Ferrier McWhirter, their wagon train trip from TN to northwest Alabama, and the life she endured during and after the Civil War as a Unionist in the heart of the Confederacy. They first lived on the border of Smith & Warren Counties in TN. The book is about Sarah Harper McWhirter who watched her husband, three children and three brothers go off to fight in the 1st AL Cav., USV, while two other brothers fought for the Confederacy. It ranges from the factional to fictionalized. The factual obviously being the facts dealing with families, dates of birth, marriage, death, and other historical events. Civil War documents and diaries were also used. The letters written to Sarah by her sons and brothers were based on Official Records, Thomas A. McWhirter's Civil War Diary and other diaries written by other 1st Alabama Cavalry USV members who were serving alongside her sons and brothers when they wrote home. The author has made every attempt to match the fictionalized portions with the documented experiences and actions of the true Sarah Harper McWhirter. Each of the excerpts from diaries, Southern Claims, Civil War Pension Applications, speeches, Official Records, wills, etc. was left in its own unique style. In some instances, the people who wrote them were illiterate but the spelling was used exactly as it was found. Vintage portraits of the Harper families, as well as others, and other photographs enhance the text. The book includes the Harper family history which has been traced back to Oxfordshire, Noke, England in the early 1500's. Heritage Books, Incorporated, T5252, $30 Several people on the list have expressed an interest in this book when it was published. The book can be ordered from the following website, which says it might be up to 3 months before it is ready but it has already been approved by the editor and sent to the printer so should not be that long, and they will not charge credit cards until it is shipped. [1]http://heritagebooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HBI&Prod uct_Code=T5252&Category_Code= References 1. http://heritagebooks.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HBI&Product_Code=T5252&Category_Code=