I am looking for information on an Elender J. Partin. Married: James L. Teague. Born: Around Oct 1870 Died: About 1910. Mother: Jane Parton/Partin b. May 1845 I beleive they lived in the Clearfield/Egan Area. James L. Teague was the son of Calvin Teague and Virginia Jane Buchanan. Bryan King.

Hello. I would like to correspond with anyone who knows of or is related to the McGeorge family of Claiborne Co., TN and surrounding areas. Including the KY counties of Bell, Harlan, and Knox. Sincerely, Mary in CA

List anyone know a little about him? a lady researching that surname. i remember a pastor of the CALVARY BAPTIST Church in TIPRELL. in the 1960s. i'm not related. posting this to help. any info i'll pass to her. thanks Ray. MOORE,MAYES,TOWNSLEY,WHITEAKER, WHITAKER,GRUBBS,POE, GRAY, HAUN,LONG,OGLESBY, CRAVENS,VOWELL,PARKER, MOLES,MEADOWS,LAMBERT,NORTH, FIELDS,(HUNDLEY,MANIS,of HAWKINS Co.TN.) & others. in CLAIBORNE,KNOX,GRAINGER Cos.TN. http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore508/moore.htm

If anyone out there has a current e-mail address for Bill Hammock, would you forward it to me, please : [email protected] The last address I had for him was [email protected] and messages there are bouncing with "no such address". Thanks, List Members! Ann Grubb

Does anyone have the new e-mail address of Inez Barr. I need to contact her.. Kyle

I have an Adam Clouse who married Temperance Estes in Claiborne County. Temperance was born about 1818 and so I would presume Adam was about the same age. Temperance's brother was my ancestor. I show Adam's parents to be Christopher (Christian) Clouse and Charlotte Tapp. I am not a Clouse researcher, but I got this info from Clouse researchers years ago who gave me the following sources: "From book "A remembrance of the Clouse family descendents of George Clouse compiled and edited by Prietta Clouse. Also info from Alvin R. Jordan 225 E. Peachtree St, Corbin, Ky" Adam's occupation is shown as a wheelright. I have a list of their children which does include a George. I have been unable to track this family and where they went. If anyone has any current information, I would greatly appreciate it. If anyone needs info on Temperance Estes, I have lots of info on the Estes family. Roberta Estes -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 6:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TNCLAIBO-L] Jones/Clouse/Crawford Phillip, We have communicated before about your Walker kin in Mulberry Valley. My GGG grandfather was Christian Clouse. I have some information about this family and know where they lived. I have seen no proof that he was married to Charlotte Tapp but would love to know more about the Tapps. I believe Christian had a son named George. I am looking at an excerpt from the publication "Watauga" Volume 3, 1974 which is at Tennessee Archives. It is entitled "A list of the Free Male Inhabitants of Claiborne County, Tennessee who hath obtained the age of twenty one years and upwards. Taken in the year 1833. James Mason Commissioner to Claiborne County." The list includes Christian and George Clouse. They are numbered Christian 234 and George 235. I do not know what these numbers refer to. My line comes through Nancy Clouse daughter of Christian who married William Ramsey, son of Josiah and Elizabeth Ramsey. The Clouses lived next door to the Ramseys. They lived in the part which would become Hancock County in 1845. I have more information but will have to dig it up. Rosemary Ramsey Cox ==== TNCLAIBO Mailing List ==== VIRUS WARNINGS, CHAIN LETTERS, SOLICITING, JOKES, MISSING CHILDREN NOTICES, POLITICAL MESSAGES, FLAMES, PRAYERS, etc., are grounds for your immediate removal from this list.

Phillip, We have communicated before about your Walker kin in Mulberry Valley. My GGG grandfather was Christian Clouse. I have some information about this family and know where they lived. I have seen no proof that he was married to Charlotte Tapp but would love to know more about the Tapps. I believe Christian had a son named George. I am looking at an excerpt from the publication "Watauga" Volume 3, 1974 which is at Tennessee Archives. It is entitled "A list of the Free Male Inhabitants of Claiborne County, Tennessee who hath obtained the age of twenty one years and upwards. Taken in the year 1833. James Mason Commissioner to Claiborne County." The list includes Christian and George Clouse. They are numbered Christian 234 and George 235. I do not know what these numbers refer to. My line comes through Nancy Clouse daughter of Christian who married William Ramsey, son of Josiah and Elizabeth Ramsey. The Clouses lived next door to the Ramseys. They lived in the part which would become Hancock County in 1845. I have more information but will have to dig it up. Rosemary Ramsey Cox

List saw this on another list. i'll resend if needed. Ray.----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am attempting to find information on the mother > of > > my ancestor Richard FAULKNER. Having exhausted all > > other sources I am hoping there may be something > in a > > Palmyra newspaper on his marriage that may mention > his > > mother. > > > > He was married in Palmyra on 12 Aug 1946 to > Shirley > > ALLEN. > > > > If anyone has access to a pertinent newspaper and > > could do a lookup I would very much appreciate it. MOORE,MAYES,TOWNSLEY,WHITEAKER, WHITAKER,GRUBBS,POE, GRAY, HAUN,LONG,OGLESBY, CRAVENS,VOWELL,PARKER, MOLES,MEADOWS,LAMBERT,NORTH, FIELDS,(HUNDLEY,MANIS,of HAWKINS Co.TN.) & others. in CLAIBORNE,KNOX,GRAINGER Cos.TN. http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore508/moore.htm

list recently a SNYDER in CUMBERLAND GAP emailed me, i think thru this list. they are from ILL. are you on here? a lady names KAREN SNYDER doing gen. may be related. e me off list. Ray. MOORE,MAYES,TOWNSLEY,WHITEAKER, WHITAKER,GRUBBS,POE, GRAY, HAUN,LONG,OGLESBY, CRAVENS,VOWELL,PARKER, MOLES,MEADOWS,LAMBERT,NORTH, FIELDS,(HUNDLEY,MANIS,of HAWKINS Co.TN.) & others. in CLAIBORNE,KNOX,GRAINGER Cos.TN. http://tippytnn.topcities.com/moore508/moore.htm

Good sermon! We're lacking in them these days. A lot of sermons are watered down. But I know I was saved at the age of 15, and changed from that day forward. I've never been the same! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell G. Waddell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [TNCLAIBO-L] Big Spring Church article > When someone is received in the church by experience, it is saying that > the person has been saved by experience of receiving their salvation > through humble repentance at the altar in the church, or anywhere else > where they repented and were saved, which is then referred to as "their > altar". All of this is a spiritual event, and they can then join the > church tell their "experience" before the church which is required > before they are 'voted in' by the body of the church. Generally, most > people who were saved in a revival held at that church, came forward and > told their 'experience' before the church at that church's next business > meeting. This is the way it was always done, and still is in what is > considered as "old time churches", whereas what is considered as "modern > churches" believe that salvation comes from "accepting Christ as your > personal Savior", a doctrine that is not supported by the "old time > churches. I want to state at this point that I am not condemning any > church or their doctrine, only stating a fact, and answering this > question the best way that I can. In addition, below is a good > explanation, probably one of the best explanations that I've ever seen > that can be explained in text, of what is consider as "Experimental > Salvation", written by an 'old time' preacher that I am acquainted with: > > Cheers, > Darrell G. Waddell > > Salvation > By Bro. Del Compton > > We, as Old Time Baptists, believe "True" salvation is a personal > experience with God. God makes it known to you personally, in your > heart, when He saves you. In order to obtain "true" salvation, there > first must be a sense of trouble, conviction, and condemnation set up by > God in the heart of the unsaved person. They must pray and seek God and > repent of their sins until they know for themselves that God has > forgiven and saved them. Man does not convict them and man cannot tell > them when God forgives and saves them. > > God is all-powerful and can save the soul of one seeking Him any place, > any time. However, the church gives opportunity for those desiring to > seek and find God to come to the front for prayer. Many of our churches > have a pew sitting in the front, facing the congregation, referred to as > the "mourner's bench". We do not believe that the "mourner's bench" has > any saving power, but it is a good place to bow before the Throne of our > Mighty God. > > The unsaved person does not obtain salvation simply by "accepting", > "receiving Christ", "making a decision for Christ", or by "being > baptized" as many teach today. We condemn such practices. It is true > that a person must "accept" and "believe" that Christ is who the Bible > teaches He is. One must also believe that He is the rewarder of those > that diligently seek Him. This is a historical belief and is > definitely required by the one seeking God. When one is saved, they > truly do receive Christ in their heart. It is also true that a person > must "decide" to seek Christ; and must be determined to seek until they > find Him. > We DO NOT believe in using "repeat after me" prayers nor in reading > scripture passages to them to convince them they have prayed, trusted, > or believed. We DO NOT condone the practice known as "The Roman Road" > and all other "easy believeism" practices. These practices substitute a > historical belief for a belief from the heart. > > When God deals in the heart of the one who does not know Him through an > experience of salvation, His Holy Spirit sets up conviction and trouble > in the person's heart. When those in this trouble come for prayer, we > believe in praying for and with the person, but God does the saving and > makes it known to the individual. We do believe in encouraging them > according to the leadership of the Holy Spirit. You know when God > forgives and saves you without anyone telling you (including the > preacher, loved ones, or any friend). > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Treece" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:31 AM > Subject: [TNCLAIBO-L] Big Spring Church article > > > > The latest issue of Reflections has several pages of minutes from Big > > Springs Primitive Baptist Church in Claiborne County (1826-1836). Can > > anyone tell me what it means that they accepted members "by > > experience"? > > People were either admitted by letter or by experience. > > > > Thanks, > > Margaret > > > > > > > > ==== TNCLAIBO Mailing List ==== > > If you are having any difficulties with the list please contact the > > list owner Pamela Burnette at: [email protected] > > Visit the CLAIBORNE COUNTY PIONEER PROJECT at: > > http//freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ccpp/pioneer/index.htm > > we have over 95,000 folks from the county identified and waiting for > > you to find them. > > > > > ==== TNCLAIBO Mailing List ==== > VIRUS WARNINGS, SOLICITING, CHAIN LETTERS, JOKES, MISSING CHILDREN NOTICES, POLITICAL MESSAGES, FLAMES, PRAYERS, etc., are grounds for your immediate removal from this list. > > > >

I can't resist writing. I know what it means to be admitted "by experience." I was saved, born again, when I was 15 years old. The 'experience' completely changed my life, my desires, etc. I have never doubted that it was God who spoke to my heart that night with unbearable conviction (the power of the Holy Spirit showing me that I was lost and doomed forever without God). After I prayed, repented of my sins, asked for forgiveness, by faith I accepted that I was saved. And I was!!!! Praise the Lord!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Treece" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 8:31 AM Subject: [TNCLAIBO-L] Big Spring Church article > The latest issue of Reflections has several pages of minutes from Big > Springs Primitive Baptist Church in Claiborne County (1826-1836). Can > anyone tell me what it means that they accepted members "by experience"? > People were either admitted by letter or by experience. > > Thanks, > Margaret > > > > ==== TNCLAIBO Mailing List ==== > If you are having any difficulties with the list please contact the list owner Pamela Burnette at: [email protected] > Visit the CLAIBORNE COUNTY PIONEER PROJECT at: http//freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ccpp/pioneer/index.htm > we have over 95,000 folks from the county identified and waiting for you to find them. > > > >

Hi, I am not sure if I am kin to Mary Elizabeth Gordon. If so, it would a distant cousin. She could be in the line of Crawford C Tipton. See Below George W Gordon son of George A Gordon & grandson of Crawford Gordon, My Great-Grandfather Samuel (Sandy) Gordon of Hancock County was most likely a brother to Crawford. I have not researched the line of Crawford but picked this up from the internet. Jimmie Gordon 1. CRAWFORD C "TIPTUN" GORDON was born Abt. 1839 in Tennessee, and died Aft. 1890. He married CATHARINE OVERBAY. She was born Abt. 1841 in Tennessee, and died Aft. 1885. Children of CRAWFORD GORDON and CATHARINE OVERBAY are: GEORGE A GORDON, b. April 04, 1861, Tennessee; d. January 06, 1942, Lot, Whitley County, KY. SANDY S (LEE) GORDON, b. Abt. 1862, Tennessee. JOHN ROBINSON GORDON, b. Abt. 1864, Tennessee. . MARTHA J GORDON, b. Abt. 1866, Tennessee. MARANDA GORDON, b. Abt. 1870, Crooked Creek, Estill County, KY; d. Bef. 1894, Rockcastle County, KY. DAVID GORDON, b. Abt. 1873, Hawkins County, TN. MARY C GORDON, b. Abt. 1875, Hawkins County, TN. 4 SARAH C "SALLIE" GORDON, b. Abt. 1877, Hawkins County, TN; d. March 21, 1962, Middlesboro, Bell County, KY. ALICE GORDON, b. June 1885. 2. GEORGE A GORDON (CRAWFORD C "TIPTUN) was born April 04, 1861 in Tennessee, and died January 06, 1942 in Lot, Whitley County, KY. He married MARY WEBB. She was born October 18, 1864 in Hawkins County, TN, and died January 13, 1936. Children of GEORGE GORDON and MARY WEBB are: WILLIAM EDMUND5 GORDON, b. March 1887, Tennessee. GEORGE W GORDON, b. May 1889, Kentucky. SAMUEL CRAWFORD GORDON, b. July 1891, Kentucky. MARTHA J GORDON, b. February 1896, Kentucky; m. UNKNOWN BOWMAN. LOYD HOUSTON "HUSE" GORDON, b. January 1897, Kentucky. THOMAS LEWIS GORDON, b. February 1900, Kentucky. LAURA E GORDON, b. June 21, 1905, Kentucky; d. October 10, 1929; m. CORAM EMERSON REYNOLDS.

Maybe this is not the place to ask this question but you messages about the Church, experience and Baptism and the Church I have to ask this question in the regard is it possible to be Baptized because that is what you want without having to join any certain church. Just wondering Margaret

Mary Elizabeth Gordon born-Sept. 18, 1916 died-Dec. 21, 1916 Claiborne Co.,TN. {Village Mansing, TN.} Age- 3 months, 3 days Father-George W. Gordon born KY. Mother Martha M. Meyers born TN. I am going to give this Certificate to anyone that is kin to her, because I can not find her in my Gordon family. Barbara ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

I am not related to the Lynes at all, but I ran across a deed that may be helpful to Lyne family researchers and thought I would post a transcription. It takes a little explanation though. It's from Claiborne County, book A, page 15, a copy of which I got from the Claiborne County Register. It's clearly been handcopied sometime in the modern era and has at least two likely transcription errors; it refers, for instance, to Edward Lyne who I think was Edmund, and another passage that makes little sense probably said something else in the original. Also, the copy I got was cut off a bit on the right side; I've restored the text (in square brackets) as my best guess, and I don't think anything important was cut off, but Lyne researchers may want a clean copy. In any case, the most likely reading of this deed seems to indicate that Edmund Lyne had died, and heirs were selling off his full grant of 640 acres at Rob Camp. However, it appears that the people selling were not direct heirs of Edmund but of John Lyne; presumably, they are the children of John Lyne, who had also died, selling the part of Edmund's estate that John should have gotten. Alternately, they could be brothers and sisters of an unmarried John Lyne. As I said, I'm not related and haven't researched the family, but since the deed mentions heirs, I thought it might be useful to someone. The exact text: The following Deed is copied from book "A" page 14 This indenture made the seventh day of October one thousand eight hundred and one, between William Ly[ne], Henry Lyne, Edward How, and Anna his wife of the stat[e] of Virginia and William Starling and Susanna his wife [of] the State of Kentucky. for themselves and as legatee [sic] of John Lyne deceased all legatees or divisees of Edward Lyne deceased of the one part and James Overton and John Riley of Russell County and State of Virginia of the other part. Witnesseth that the said William Lyne, Henry Henry [sic] Edward How, and Ann [sic] his wife and William Starli[ng] and Susanna his wife for themselves for John Lyne decea[sed] in consideration of one hundred pounds current money of Virginia in hand paid the receipt whereof is hereby ack[n]owledged has granted bargained and sold, and by these present [sic] doth grant bargain and sell unto the said Ja[mes] Overton and John Riley a tract of land in the county of Hawkins, and State of Tennessee called Rob Camp, containing six [?] hundred and forty acres be the sam[e] more or less, and bounded as follows: Beginning a[t] a large Beech on the bank of the river, thence runnin[g] up the river North forty five degrees east four hu[n]dred and forty poles to a hickory and Elm, thence due north two hundred and twenty six to a red oak, thence south forty three degrees west Six [?] hundred and twenty poles to a stake, thence sout[h] forty five degrees east two hundred and four poles to the beginning. Granted from the State [of] North Carolina the ninth day of August one th[ou]sand Seven hundred and eighty seven, with all ways woods waters advantages, appurtenances, th[ere]unto belonging or in any wise appertaining or [unknown missing words] There from refitting [*], to have and to hold the sai[d] land and premises hereby conveyed to them t[he] said James Overton and John Riley their heirs a[nd] assigns forever, as to rents in covenants to them and their own proper use and behoof [sic] and the said William Lyne, Henry Lyne, Edward How an[d] Ann [sic] his wife and William Sterling [sic] and Susan[na] his wife for themselves and as legatee of John Lyn[e] deceased do command and grant to and with the sa[me] James Overton and John Riley that [several words cut off; may be "they will warrant"] should be lost by a better title than the title of aforesaid Edward Lyne deceased. In witness whereof the said William Lyne Henry Lyne, Edward How and Ann his wife, and William Starling and Susanna his wife have hereunto set their hands and seals the day and year above written Thomas Starling for [seal] William Lyne [seal] Henry Lyne [seal] William Starling [seal] Edward How [seal] sealed and delivered in the presence of George James, James Morgan James Estep Registered April the Seventeenth day, one thousand Eight hundred and two by me Ezekial Craft, R. C. C. [* Although the transcription matches the deed as copied, the section from "or" to the "*" probably said something in the original similar to "and reversion or reversions".] -- Phillip A. Walker [email protected]

OK, while I'm at it as far as children of Edward B. Walker and Jane Horn in the Little Sycamore/Mulberry Creek area: Elizabeth Walker, the youngest, married Henry George Clouse, and moved to Harrison County, Missouri, apparently between 1850 and 1852; anyone researching this family or the Clouse family in general? I don't have independent evidence on Henry's parents, but various Internet sources attribute him to being the son of Christian Clouse and Charlotte Tapp. Susanna Walker married Thomas F. Jones and moved to Greene County, Indiana, probably between 1832 and 1834; I'm working with a Jones researcher to figure out for sure whether this Thomas F. Jones is the Thomas Fitgerald Jones mentioned in the Revolutionary War pension of John Jones; anyone else researching the Jones family? Martha Walker still remains unproven, but I have a strong candidate for her, and she may have married a John Crawford and lived in Sullivan County; Samuel Crawford, who married Mary Walker (-->Edward Jr.-->Edward Sr.) may be their son. Finally, two children remain complete mysteries, to me anyway: William, born in 1792, and John, born in 1801. Neither has definitively shown up in tax or census records, and, of course, they have common names. There is a John in 1840 in Claiborne County, but I'm not sure whether he is this John or quite possibly the son of James Walker, who ran the iron works on Davis Creek. Any hints, mentions in deeds, or anything else about Walkers, especially prior to 1850, are always appreciated. Just FYI, I've identified at least 5 apparently unrelated lines up to 1850: Edward Walker from Duplin County, North Carolina, and Jane Horn are responsible for most of the Walkers in Claiborne and Hancock Counties and many in Union. James Walker was an early settler possibly from Virginia who owned the iron works at Davis Creek and did a little land speculation; he had a wife Mary (Polly). I have a little evidence but mostly suspicions about at least two sons, John and William, and a daughter Sarah, but cannot definitely prove any of the children. I think, though, that the children left the area, possibly for Knoxville, sometime around when James died in 1836. Thomas L. Walker was the "first doctor remembered" in the city of Tazewell; he and his wife died young, and their two children left the area, leaving no descendants in the area to my knowledge. Thomas B. Walker is considered by some as the first doctor in all of Claiborne County and apparently lived near Clear Fork for a while but mostly in Lee County and later in Missouri. He left a number of descendants, including one in Union County, but not any that I know in Claiborne/Hancock. Two brothers, John and Henry, I think, came from North Carolina in 1850 and pop up in the Census then and then only. I think they were only in the area a short time. -- Phillip A. Walker [email protected]

The earliest Walkers in the Claiborne/Hancock County area settled in the stretch on what are now known as Little Sycamore and Mulberry Gap Roads, with their settlement starting sometime before 1818, although I can't prove exactly when. They lived near the Colemans, the Bakers, the other Bakers, the Davises, the Sumpters, the Overtons, the Joneses, and a number of others. I've recently been able to find some of the long missing children from that generation and wondered whether anyone had any likely candidates for two of the wives I have found. Specifically, Jonathan married a woman named Margaret who was born about 1812 in Tennessee, and Henry married a woman named Mary born about 1808 in Virginia. Both Jonathan and Henry left the area with their families a few years after their father died and settled for a while in Dade County, Missouri; Jonathan later moved to Grayson County, Texas, although I have not been able to figure out for sure what happened to Henry's family past 1850. Does anyone have a missing Margaret or missing Mary from that area or southern Lee County, Virginia, who might be the wife of one of the two? I'm mostly looking for hints that can narrow down a deed search. Thanks. -- Phillip A. Walker [email protected]

When someone is received in the church by experience, it is saying that the person has been saved by experience of receiving their salvation through humble repentance at the altar in the church, or anywhere else where they repented and were saved, which is then referred to as "their altar". All of this is a spiritual event, and they can then join the church tell their "experience" before the church which is required before they are 'voted in' by the body of the church. Generally, most people who were saved in a revival held at that church, came forward and told their 'experience' before the church at that church's next business meeting. This is the way it was always done, and still is in what is considered as "old time churches", whereas what is considered as "modern churches" believe that salvation comes from "accepting Christ as your personal Savior", a doctrine that is not supported by the "old time churches. I want to state at this point that I am not condemning any church or their doctrine, only stating a fact, and answering this question the best way that I can. In addition, below is a good explanation, probably one of the best explanations that I've ever seen that can be explained in text, of what is consider as "Experimental Salvation", written by an 'old time' preacher that I am acquainted with: Cheers, Darrell G. Waddell Salvation By Bro. Del Compton We, as Old Time Baptists, believe "True" salvation is a personal experience with God. God makes it known to you personally, in your heart, when He saves you. In order to obtain "true" salvation, there first must be a sense of trouble, conviction, and condemnation set up by God in the heart of the unsaved person. They must pray and seek God and repent of their sins until they know for themselves that God has forgiven and saved them. Man does not convict them and man cannot tell them when God forgives and saves them. God is all-powerful and can save the soul of one seeking Him any place, any time. However, the church gives opportunity for those desiring to seek and find God to come to the front for prayer. Many of our churches have a pew sitting in the front, facing the congregation, referred to as the "mourner's bench". We do not believe that the "mourner's bench" has any saving power, but it is a good place to bow before the Throne of our Mighty God. The unsaved person does not obtain salvation simply by "accepting", "receiving Christ", "making a decision for Christ", or by "being baptized" as many teach today. We condemn such practices. It is true that a person must "accept" and "believe" that Christ is who the Bible teaches He is. One must also believe that He is the rewarder of those that diligently seek Him. This is a historical belief and is definitely required by the one seeking God. When one is saved, they truly do receive Christ in their heart. It is also true that a person must "decide" to seek Christ; and must be determined to seek until they find Him. We DO NOT believe in using "repeat after me" prayers nor in reading scripture passages to them to convince them they have prayed, trusted, or believed. We DO NOT condone the practice known as "The Roman Road" and all other "easy believeism" practices. These practices substitute a historical belief for a belief from the heart. When God deals in the heart of the one who does not know Him through an experience of salvation, His Holy Spirit sets up conviction and trouble in the person's heart. When those in this trouble come for prayer, we believe in praying for and with the person, but God does the saving and makes it known to the individual. We do believe in encouraging them according to the leadership of the Holy Spirit. You know when God forgives and saves you without anyone telling you (including the preacher, loved ones, or any friend). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Treece" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:31 AM Subject: [TNCLAIBO-L] Big Spring Church article > The latest issue of Reflections has several pages of minutes from Big > Springs Primitive Baptist Church in Claiborne County (1826-1836). Can > anyone tell me what it means that they accepted members "by > experience"? > People were either admitted by letter or by experience. > > Thanks, > Margaret > > > > ==== TNCLAIBO Mailing List ==== > If you are having any difficulties with the list please contact the > list owner Pamela Burnette at: [email protected] > Visit the CLAIBORNE COUNTY PIONEER PROJECT at: > http//freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ccpp/pioneer/index.htm > we have over 95,000 folks from the county identified and waiting for > you to find them. >

If I understand correctly, typically Baptist churches accept members through four methods: Baptism, letter, experience, and restoration. "By letter" is literally that, that the person comes with a letter from a "sister church in good fellowship" with the new church transferring the membership. "Restoration" happens when someone previously excluded is readmitted, generally by vote of a the membership of the church. "By Experience" means that the person was previously a church member somewhere but either the membership had been lost for some reason or records were not available to prove it. Typically back then, I think, people who were accepted "by experience" were generally those who were already baptised but lost their letter, didn't get a letter from a church now far away, had not gone to church in a long while, or belonged to churches that the new church didn't like. Just as you see in many old records members being excluded and restored on a regular basis, many churches also fell in and out of fellowship with other entire churches at times. On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:31:03 -0500, Margaret Treece <[email protected]> wrote: > The latest issue of Reflections has several pages of minutes from Big > Springs Primitive Baptist Church in Claiborne County (1826-1836). Can > anyone tell me what it means that they accepted members "by experience"? > People were either admitted by letter or by experience. > > Thanks, > Margaret > > ==== TNCLAIBO Mailing List ==== > If you are having any difficulties with the list please contact the list owner Pamela Burnette at: [email protected] > Visit the CLAIBORNE COUNTY PIONEER PROJECT at: http//freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ccpp/pioneer/index.htm > we have over 95,000 folks from the county identified and waiting for you to find them. > > -- -- Phillip A. Walker [email protected]

The latest issue of Reflections has several pages of minutes from Big Springs Primitive Baptist Church in Claiborne County (1826-1836). Can anyone tell me what it means that they accepted members "by experience"? People were either admitted by letter or by experience. Thanks, Margaret