Not even one day passed before my own list caught me not conforming to Netscape rules. I swear to you I made a transparent spacer graphic for our page at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnunion/tnchat I just forgot to put the image src in the html. Rats! Luckily I have two great HTML people on this list. One who wishes to remain anonymous and Bridget. The anonymous one will have to come forward before long, I make way too many mistakes for them to keep quiet long. If you have a personal, county or state page, send us the link so we can see your work and get to know each other. I don't do roll calls. I find it easier just to say something stupid so everyone can correct me. That way I get to see who's actually listening. Chip