I'll use that one. Chip

What this list doesn't know we make up. Jims right the USGS link should supply the info you're looking for. if you want to get your hands on a real map go to the Agricultural Lab at UT in Knoxville. They have tons of geological maps. Seems like they should be in the geology dept. but they're not. The Hardin County Ag. Extension Officer can order a set to be sent to him for you to review. Chip

In a message dated 6/15/00 3:47:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tngibson@worldnet.att.net writes: << Her family was run out of their home by Yankees, so I guess everything was a little mixed up back then! >> Ortho makes a spray for those things these days. <g> Chip

I've always been told "the truth is stranger than fiction". This story and the photograph on the link page certainly do lend credence to that statement. Po' Mary the elephant - all she wanted was some watermelon. Edgar -----Original Message----- From: Morom01@aol.com <Morom01@aol.com> To: TNCHAT-L@rootsweb.com <TNCHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 14 June, 2000 9:16 PM Subject: [TNCHAT] Lynched Elephant With Photo >We got eight new subscribers tonight (fifteen for the day) and I'm told I >sent the story too early. So here it is again. And for all you people who >read it earlier, I found a link to the lynched elephant photo. It's at the >end of the story. > >This story is told many different ways. What I offer here is my version with >facts that I have read since childhood. I'm not sure any official version is >available in a book, but the newspaper archives give the story very similar >to this. Regardless of the details here and there, that have been lost in >time, the story itself is true. Somewhere in some time past I remember >someone showing me a picture of the hanging. If I find it and get permission >from the person I'll display it somewhere. > >In the year 1916 many changes were taking place in the world. War was >ravaging Europe, the country was in an economic decline. America was >beginning to face issues that would plague us eighty years later. But in East >Tennessee and Virginia, in the area most people know as the Appalachians, it >was a good time to see the circus. > >The town was Erwin, Tennessee a railroad town and home to the Cincinnati, >Clinchfield, and Ohio Railroad's repair shop. There were only two main >employers in the town, the railroad and a pottery factory. This meant that >most of the town had the same days off and spent them together at town >picnics and other functions. Any meeting was a time for the whole town to >come together and the execution of an elephant on September 16th, would be no >different. > >Mary, was a five ton elephant owned by the Sparks Brothers Circus. Mary was >their main attraction as she was billed as the largest animal to ever walk >the face of the earth. Her owner claimed she was three inches taller than >Barnum's Jumbo. She was rumored (by her owner) as to have killed eight men. >How much of this was true, nobody knows, but it probably helped to seal >Mary's fate with the public. > >September 11th, the circus played a town in Virginia, (I can't remember the >town's name) where a man named Red Eldridge asked for a job. Red was a >drifter and rode the rails of America as was very common at the time. Why Red >decided to seek employment at this time is not understood, but he asked the >circus and was hired. Red was put in charge of a broom and made clean up. But >on the next day, after the sudden departure of another man, Red was promoted >to elephant handler. Not quite experienced at this job, Red made up for it >with a big stick. It is said that Red tried to intimidate the animals. A >small man with a big stick may strike fear into the hearts of hobos, but >elephants aren't impressed with such nonsense. > >On September 12th the circus came to Kingsport, Tennessee. As was the custom >the animals were unloaded at the train yard and paraded through town to the >delight of the crowds that gathered to watch. This day Red led Mary the five >ton prize elephant of the show. Along the way Mary saw a half eaten >watermelon left on the street by one of the spectators. Mary reached for the >watermelon with her huge trunk. Red decided that Mary shouldn't have the >watermelon and gave a jerk on Mary's chain. According to witnesses, Mary gave >a loud trumpet and went for the melon again. This time Red decided to strike >Mary in the side of the head with his large stick. What happened next, (the >manner of Red's death) is debated to this day. Oh, nobody says the elephant >didn't kill Red, it's just that some say, she gored him with her tusks, >others say she squeezed him to death with her trunk, some say she trampled >him, and other say she kicked him. No matter what, Red was as dead as a >doornail and Mary had her melon. > >The owner of the circus, Charlie Sparks realized the publicity this would >cause. It was one thing for him to claim that Mary had killed eight people, >but if it were true and in the papers that was different. No town would allow >his circus to come with a real certified rogue killer elephant. Charlie >decided that with Mary around his circus was finished. Mary had to go. > >First it was decided that Mary would be shot. A local man shot Mary five >times with a shotgun while she was chained. The shot hardly phased her. Later >that day the sheriff shot Mary repeatedly with a 45 pistol. Still no good. >Mary was simply too thick hided for bullets to kill her. > >Next the town of Kingsport decided that they would electrocute her. A trunk >line ran the length of the railroad track that supposedly carried 44,000 >volts. Mary was chained and the voltage applied. She jumped a little each >time, but never seemed to be injured by the voltage. (Chips note: I doubt >this part of the story because electricity wasn't that common in the area. I >doubt that there would have been that much voltage in the town pre TVA.) > >Other options were discussed including hooking Mary to two train engines and >allowing them to pull her apart. Another said to put her between two engines >and let them crush her. Both of these were ruled out. > >It was decided that Mary should be hanged. But how do you hang a five ton >elephant? The heaviest crane in the area belonged to the Clinchfield >railroad. It was kept in their shop at Erwin, Tennessee. Mary was taken to >Erwin on a train to await her fate the next morning. > >The next morning Mary stood tied to a rail in the train yard. Witnesses say >that Mary seemed nervous and paced back and forth like she knew her fate. The >crane was brought out and a steam shovel dug a hole right beside the track. A >chain was placed around Mary's neck and the winch began to hoist Mary >skyward. As she left the ground a crack was heard. It was then discovered >that Mary was still chained to the track and her leg was breaking. Quickly >the chain around her ankle was cut. Mary began to thrash. > >Another crack was heard and Mary plummeted to the ground. The chain around >her neck was too small and it broke. The crowd scattered, fearing an enraged >elephant stampeding loose in the town. But Mary's hip was shattered and she >couldn't move. A railroad worker climbed Mary's back and attached another >chain. Mary was again lifted by the crane. > >Mary was held in the air for two hours as crowds gathered for a look. Then >later that day, the crane took Mary down the track to the hole that had been >dug and placed her body in it. It was covered with dirt and Mary's body is >buried there today. > >Some of the tracks are gone today, others are in bad repair. The area is >seldom used and the railroad long out of business. But there in Erwin lies >the only elephant found guilty of murder in America and publicly hanged. > >Chip's Comment: >Was Mary guilty of murder? No. I would say the circus was more guilty than >Mary. They put this untrained man in charge of a five ton animal and allowed >him to strike her with a stick. Common sense says this man is going to die. >Mary was never ill tempered and had never hurt anyone before. She wanted a >watermelon and Red paid with his life for his own stupidity. > >To see the photo use the following URL. I can't vouch that it's a real >photograph as it differs from the one I've seen. >http://www.blueridgecountry.com/elephant/elephant.html > > >==== TNCHAT Mailing List ==== >To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list please visit: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnunion/tnchat >This list is generously donated by Rootsweb for our use. >Complete rules for TnChat may be found at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnunion/tnchat > >

In a message dated 6/15/00 2:18:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tngibson@worldnet.att.net writes: << My great aunt was born June 15, 1894 in Ray Co. Missouri. Today she is celebrating her 106th birthday in good health! >> I can't imagine living that long, the things she must have seen in her life. I just hope I live long enough to make my kid's life miserable in my old age. He He Chip

In a message dated 6/15/00 1:54:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lyric@bna.bellsouth.net writes: << Ya know what we aughta invent? Something like spellcheck that turns Southern slang into ...naaaaaa, it wouldn't be half the fun! >> Well it's not really a spell checker but it does convert English into several comic languages. Here's the URL: http://rinkworks.com/dialect/ Chip

Well shoot Chip. I was gonna correct your murderous Eng-a-lish but I figured I'd hurt your feelins'. HOWEVER, now I've seen the topic "Murderous Mary of Tennessee" (Why, oh why, did they have to name it Mary? And they didn't even spell it right!!!) Sigh....<G> Ya know what we aughta invent? Something like spellcheck that turns Southern slang into ...naaaaaa, it wouldn't be half the fun! Peaceful Mari in the 'Boro

A photo of the hanged/hung elephant was taken by T. K. Broyles according to his brother-in-law D. W. Love, Lieutenant Colonel, U. S. Army-Retired of Johnson City appeared in the "Tennessee Conservationist" of June 1970. This info contained in the book "A Treasure of Tennessee Tales" by James Ewing. According to Ewing a similar drawing of Mary appered in Robert Ripley's "Believe It or Not" of August 29, 1938. The photo was supposedly printed in such magazines as Argosy and Popular Mechanics. Wonder if the gravesite is marked? Rsp Jim Allen

We got eight new subscribers tonight (fifteen for the day) and I'm told I sent the story too early. So here it is again. And for all you people who read it earlier, I found a link to the lynched elephant photo. It's at the end of the story. This story is told many different ways. What I offer here is my version with facts that I have read since childhood. I'm not sure any official version is available in a book, but the newspaper archives give the story very similar to this. Regardless of the details here and there, that have been lost in time, the story itself is true. Somewhere in some time past I remember someone showing me a picture of the hanging. If I find it and get permission from the person I'll display it somewhere. In the year 1916 many changes were taking place in the world. War was ravaging Europe, the country was in an economic decline. America was beginning to face issues that would plague us eighty years later. But in East Tennessee and Virginia, in the area most people know as the Appalachians, it was a good time to see the circus. The town was Erwin, Tennessee a railroad town and home to the Cincinnati, Clinchfield, and Ohio Railroad's repair shop. There were only two main employers in the town, the railroad and a pottery factory. This meant that most of the town had the same days off and spent them together at town picnics and other functions. Any meeting was a time for the whole town to come together and the execution of an elephant on September 16th, would be no different. Mary, was a five ton elephant owned by the Sparks Brothers Circus. Mary was their main attraction as she was billed as the largest animal to ever walk the face of the earth. Her owner claimed she was three inches taller than Barnum's Jumbo. She was rumored (by her owner) as to have killed eight men. How much of this was true, nobody knows, but it probably helped to seal Mary's fate with the public. September 11th, the circus played a town in Virginia, (I can't remember the town's name) where a man named Red Eldridge asked for a job. Red was a drifter and rode the rails of America as was very common at the time. Why Red decided to seek employment at this time is not understood, but he asked the circus and was hired. Red was put in charge of a broom and made clean up. But on the next day, after the sudden departure of another man, Red was promoted to elephant handler. Not quite experienced at this job, Red made up for it with a big stick. It is said that Red tried to intimidate the animals. A small man with a big stick may strike fear into the hearts of hobos, but elephants aren't impressed with such nonsense. On September 12th the circus came to Kingsport, Tennessee. As was the custom the animals were unloaded at the train yard and paraded through town to the delight of the crowds that gathered to watch. This day Red led Mary the five ton prize elephant of the show. Along the way Mary saw a half eaten watermelon left on the street by one of the spectators. Mary reached for the watermelon with her huge trunk. Red decided that Mary shouldn't have the watermelon and gave a jerk on Mary's chain. According to witnesses, Mary gave a loud trumpet and went for the melon again. This time Red decided to strike Mary in the side of the head with his large stick. What happened next, (the manner of Red's death) is debated to this day. Oh, nobody says the elephant didn't kill Red, it's just that some say, she gored him with her tusks, others say she squeezed him to death with her trunk, some say she trampled him, and other say she kicked him. No matter what, Red was as dead as a doornail and Mary had her melon. The owner of the circus, Charlie Sparks realized the publicity this would cause. It was one thing for him to claim that Mary had killed eight people, but if it were true and in the papers that was different. No town would allow his circus to come with a real certified rogue killer elephant. Charlie decided that with Mary around his circus was finished. Mary had to go. First it was decided that Mary would be shot. A local man shot Mary five times with a shotgun while she was chained. The shot hardly phased her. Later that day the sheriff shot Mary repeatedly with a 45 pistol. Still no good. Mary was simply too thick hided for bullets to kill her. Next the town of Kingsport decided that they would electrocute her. A trunk line ran the length of the railroad track that supposedly carried 44,000 volts. Mary was chained and the voltage applied. She jumped a little each time, but never seemed to be injured by the voltage. (Chips note: I doubt this part of the story because electricity wasn't that common in the area. I doubt that there would have been that much voltage in the town pre TVA.) Other options were discussed including hooking Mary to two train engines and allowing them to pull her apart. Another said to put her between two engines and let them crush her. Both of these were ruled out. It was decided that Mary should be hanged. But how do you hang a five ton elephant? The heaviest crane in the area belonged to the Clinchfield railroad. It was kept in their shop at Erwin, Tennessee. Mary was taken to Erwin on a train to await her fate the next morning. The next morning Mary stood tied to a rail in the train yard. Witnesses say that Mary seemed nervous and paced back and forth like she knew her fate. The crane was brought out and a steam shovel dug a hole right beside the track. A chain was placed around Mary's neck and the winch began to hoist Mary skyward. As she left the ground a crack was heard. It was then discovered that Mary was still chained to the track and her leg was breaking. Quickly the chain around her ankle was cut. Mary began to thrash. Another crack was heard and Mary plummeted to the ground. The chain around her neck was too small and it broke. The crowd scattered, fearing an enraged elephant stampeding loose in the town. But Mary's hip was shattered and she couldn't move. A railroad worker climbed Mary's back and attached another chain. Mary was again lifted by the crane. Mary was held in the air for two hours as crowds gathered for a look. Then later that day, the crane took Mary down the track to the hole that had been dug and placed her body in it. It was covered with dirt and Mary's body is buried there today. Some of the tracks are gone today, others are in bad repair. The area is seldom used and the railroad long out of business. But there in Erwin lies the only elephant found guilty of murder in America and publicly hanged. Chip's Comment: Was Mary guilty of murder? No. I would say the circus was more guilty than Mary. They put this untrained man in charge of a five ton animal and allowed him to strike her with a stick. Common sense says this man is going to die. Mary was never ill tempered and had never hurt anyone before. She wanted a watermelon and Red paid with his life for his own stupidity. To see the photo use the following URL. I can't vouch that it's a real photograph as it differs from the one I've seen. http://www.blueridgecountry.com/elephant/elephant.html

This story is told many different ways. What I offer here is my version with facts that I have read since childhood. I'm not sure any official version is available in a book, but the newspaper archives give the story very similar to this. Regardless of the details here and there, that have been lost in time, the story itself is true. Somewhere in some time past I remember someone showing me a picture of the hanging. If I find it and get permission from the person I'll display it somewhere. In the year 1916 many changes were taking place in the world. War was ravaging Europe, the country was in an economic decline. America was beginning to face issues that would plague us eighty years later. But in East Tennessee and Virginia, in the area most people know as the Appalachians, it was a good time to see the circus. The town was Erwin, Tennessee a railroad town and home to the Cincinnati, Clinchfield, and Ohio Railroad's repair shop. There were only two main employers in the town, the railroad and a pottery factory. This meant that most of the town had the same days off and spent them together at town picnics and other functions. Any meeting was a time for the whole town to come together and the execution of an elephant on September 16th, would be no different. Mary, was a five ton elephant owned by the Sparks Brothers Circus. Mary was their main attraction as she was billed as the largest animal to ever walk the face of the earth. Her owner claimed she was three inches taller than Barnum's Jumbo. She was rumored (by her owner) as to have killed eight men. How much of this was true, nobody knows, but it probably helped to seal Mary's fate with the public. September 11th, the circus played a town in Virginia, (I can't remember the town's name) where a man named Red Eldridge asked for a job. Red was a drifter and rode the rails of America as was very common at the time. Why Red decided to seek employment at this time is not understood, but he asked the circus and was hired. Red was put in charge of a broom and made clean up. But on the next day, after the sudden departure of another man, Red was promoted to elephant handler. Not quite experienced at this job, Red made up for it with a big stick. It is said that Red tried to intimidate the animals. A small man with a big stick may strike fear into the hearts of hobos, but elephants aren't impressed with such nonsense. On September 12th the circus came to Kingsport, Tennessee. As was the custom the animals were unloaded at the train yard and paraded through town to the delight of the crowds that gathered to watch. This day Red led Mary the five ton prize elephant of the show. Along the way Mary saw a half eaten watermelon left on the street by one of the spectators. Mary reached for the watermelon with her huge trunk. Red decided that Mary shouldn't have the watermelon and gave a jerk on Mary's chain. According to witnesses, Mary gave a loud trumpet and went for the melon again. This time Red decided to strike Mary in the side of the head with his large stick. What happened next, (the manner of Red's death) is debated to this day. Oh, nobody says the elephant didn't kill Red, it's just that some say, she gored him with her tusks, others say she squeezed him to death with her trunk, some say she trampled him, and other say she kicked him. No matter what, Red was as dead as a doornail and Mary had her melon. The owner of the circus, Charlie Sparks realized the publicity this would cause. It was one thing for him to claim that Mary had killed eight people, but if it were true and in the papers that was different. No town would allow his circus to come with a real certified rogue killer elephant. Charlie decided that with Mary around his circus was finished. Mary had to go. First it was decided that Mary would be shot. A local man shot Mary five times with a shotgun while she was chained. The shot hardly phased her. Later that day the sheriff shot Mary repeatedly with a 45 pistol. Still no good. Mary was simply too thick hided for bullets to kill her. Next the town of Kingsport decided that they would electrocute her. A trunk line ran the length of the railroad track that supposedly carried 44,000 volts. Mary was chained and the voltage applied. She jumped a little each time, but never seemed to be injured by the voltage. (Chips note: I doubt this part of the story because electricity wasn't that common in the area. I doubt that there would have been that much voltage in the town pre TVA.) Other options were discussed including hooking Mary to two train engines and allowing them to pull her apart. Another said to put her between two engines and let them crush her. Both of these were ruled out. It was decided that Mary should be hanged. But how do you hang a five ton elephant? The heaviest crane in the area belonged to the Clinchfield railroad. It was kept in their shop at Erwin, Tennessee. Mary was taken to Erwin on a train to await her fate the next morning. The next morning Mary stood tied to a rail in the train yard. Witnesses say that Mary seemed nervous and paced back and forth like she knew her fate. The crane was brought out and a steam shovel dug a hole right beside the track. A chain was placed around Mary's neck and the winch began to hoist Mary skyward. As she left the ground a crack was heard. It was then discovered that Mary was still chained to the track and her leg was breaking. Quickly the chain around her ankle was cut. Mary began to thrash. Another crack was heard and Mary plummeted to the ground. The chain around her neck was too small and it broke. The crowd scattered, fearing an enraged elephant stampeding loose in the town. But Mary's hip was shattered and she couldn't move. A railroad worker climbed Mary's back and attached another chain. Mary was again lifted by the crane. Mary was held in the air for two hours as crowds gathered for a look. Then later that day, the crane took Mary down the track to the hole that had been dug and placed her body in it. It was covered with dirt and Mary's body is buried there today. Some of the tracks are gone today, others are in bad repair. The area is seldom used and the railroad long out of business. But there in Erwin lies the only elephant found guilty of murder in America and publicly hanged. Chip's Comment: Was Mary guilty of murder? No. I would say the circus was more guilty than Mary. They put this untrained man in charge of a five ton animal and allowed him to strike her with a stick. Common sense says this man is going to die. Mary was never ill tempered and had never hurt anyone before. She wanted a watermelon and Red paid with his life for his own stupidity.

Chip, I didn't know about the elephant who was hung for murder. Care to give some of the particulars? Also don't forget that we the Elephant Scantuary in Lewis County, TN near Hohenwald. Edgar -----Original Message----- From: Morom01@aol.com <Morom01@aol.com> To: TNCHAT-L@rootsweb.com <TNCHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: 13 June, 2000 10:53 PM Subject: [TNCHAT] Elephants and Tennessee >I saw on the news tonight Congress is considering a law that would ban >elephants in the circus. How many of you knew that the only elephant ever >hung for murder was hung in Tennessee? > >Chip > > >==== TNCHAT Mailing List ==== >To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list please visit: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnunion/tnchat >This list is generously donated by Rootsweb for our use. >Complete rules for TnChat may be found at: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnunion/tnchat > >

I think you do a great job. This is the most interesting list I've ever been a part of. Keep up the good work and don't worry about those few who want to point out what they think may be wording errors. I can't wait to hear about the elephant! Dawn

It is with quite a bit of embarassment that I must confess to murdering the English language once again. In my statement: "How many of you knew that the only elephant ever hung for murder was hung in Tennessee?" It should have been hanged. While both words are acceptable under the Webster Dictionary, obviously hanged would have been a better choice. Three of you have now written to tell me this. <g> It just makes me realize that you read my stuff. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll tell you one I did better though. I use Word to write columns. I'm bad to use slang and especially the word gonna' (I'm gonna' go to the store.). Now, I know gonna' isn't a word, but Microsoft figures I'm an idiot and changes all my gonnas'. I won't tell you what Microsoft Word changes gonna' into (try it yourself), but I will say thankfully I have a lady that proofs my writing. Chip

I saw on the news tonight Congress is considering a law that would ban elephants in the circus. How many of you knew that the only elephant ever hung for murder was hung in Tennessee? Chip

In a message dated 6/11/00 10:43:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tngibson@worldnet.att.net writes: << It is now reported a Crawford County Horticulturist will experiment with monkeys as strawberry pickers. >> Well apparently your strawberry pickers didn't work out. Thankfully the band of monkeys found gainful employment in our government! <g> Thanks for sending that. I run across odd headlines sometimes and collect them. Chip

Thought this was cute....... POTATOES You know that all potatoes have eyes. Well, Mr. and Mrs. Potato had eyes for each other and they finally got married and had a little one...a real sweet potato, whom they called 'Yam.' They wanted the best for little Yam, telling her all about the facts of life. They warned her about going out and getting half baked because she could get Mashed, get a bad name like 'Hot Potato,' and then end up with a bunch of Tater Tots. She said not to worry, "No Mr. McSpud would get her in the sack and make a Rotten Potato out of her!" But she wouldn't stay home and become a Couch Potato either. She would get plenty of food and exercise so as not to be skinny like her Shoestring cousins. Mr. and Mrs. Potato even told her about going off to Europe and to watch out for the Hard Boiled guys from Ireland. And even the greasy guys from France called the French Fries. They also said she should watch out for the Indians when going out west because she could get Scalloped. She told them she would stay on the straight and narrow and wouldn't associate with those high class Blue Belles or the ones from the other side of the tracks who advertise their trade on all the trucks you see around town that say, 'Frito Lay.' Mr. & Mrs. Potato wanted the best for Yam, so they sent her to Idaho P.U., that's Potato University, where the Big Potatoes come from. When she graduates, she'll really be in the Chips. But one day she came home and said she was going to marry Tom Brokaw. Mr.and Mrs. Potato were very upset and said she couldn't marry him because he's just a ..... Are you ready for this? Are you sure? Are you sitting down? This is REEEEEEALLY bad! OK! Here it is! Remember I warned you! COMMON TATER!!!!

another........ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Red Anthony" <redpata@hypertech.net> To: "Vicki Shaffer" <tngibson@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 9:39 PM Subject: Did you do the rain dance??? March 21, 1846 Arkansas Intelligencer Van Buren, Crawford County, Arkansas As it is very much desired at present by all, and particularly our merchants, that the river should rise, so as to enable steamboats to reach this country, we make known for their benefit, a message, sent down from the Seminoles, by a gentleman who just arrived. They say: "We all want the river to rise, as we have goods promised us by the Government, which we are much in need of- and the merchants also want goods to sell- you must tell them all, if they will send us some good big plugs of good Tobacco, we will set all our Rain Doctors and Medicine Men at work, and they will see the river rise, to have plenty of goods and (whiskey), and we will come and trade; but if they are too stingy to send us Tobacco, we can do without our goods as well as they can, and we won't work for rain unless they send the Tobacco. Looks like the Rain Doctors and the Medicine men must have worked hard because of the following extractions from the Arkansas Intelligencer in the following issues.(This was a weekly paper): April 4, 1846 We are happy to state that some of our merchants complied with the hint given by the Seminoles, and sent them the plugs of good Tobacco. We, being also anxious for a rise, sent up our big China Pipe, with a good quanity of the best "fine cut". April 11, 1846 The river commenced rising on Saturday evening last, and rose some 6 feet; it is now in excellent boating order. The Oella arrived on Sunday and passed up for Fort Gibson the same day. So I would say the Indians did not speak with forked tongue! It would have taken the merchants about a week to get the tobacco overland to the Seminole Nation during that era so it make one wonder just how much the Lord helped the poor old Seminole Indians!

This is a great place to find answers to your problem........... http://www.annoyances.org/win98/features/forum_archive10.html Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: <Roulx@aol.com> To: <TNCHAT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [TNCHAT] Alphabetizing > About alphabetizing....ME TOO!!! Post to the list. I thought I had found a > way to alphabetize my list of favorites at one time, but now I can't find it. > I'm running Windows 95. > > Pat > > > ==== TNCHAT Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe to this list please visit: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnunion/tnchat > This list is generously donated by Rootsweb for our use. > >

One of my Gibson subscribers has been sending me funny old newspaper articles..................this one wins the prize!!!!! And there's still hope for Chip getting a job! Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: "Red Anthony" <redpata@hypertech.net> To: "Vicki Shaffer" <tngibson@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 9:30 PM Subject: I didn't make this up... Van Buren Press Van Buren, Arkansas January 28, 1899 It is now reported a Crawford County Horticulturist will experiment with monkeys as strawberry pickers.

In a message dated 6/11/00 7:45:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, FetherTail@aol.com writes: << You decided to take a two-week break from genealogy, and the U. S. Post Office immediately laid off 1,500 employees. >> This one's true for me. Chip