We may be over complicating something that is very simple. Why did the Europeans come here in the 1st place? Why did they leave the east coast? Why are Ks of illegal aliens in my town of Irving today? MONEY ECONOMICS A better and easier life for them and their families. 95% of all migrations thru history.... maybe I should back that up a notch and make it read SURVIVAL, but it is the same thing. Add PERSECUTION, usually religious, and you have another 3-4% While a very attractive area compared to the bare plains of Texas, can you imagine trying to scratch out a living on the rocky hillsides w/o power equioment? And, oh, yes, about the sheriff staying in town: Several years ago during my 1st visit to Cannon, I wanted to visit the large cave system that goes by several names but was the favorite site for family gatherings in the 1880s and later. One of my local cousins escorted me and as we scrambled up the ridge leaving we came upon a LARGE marijuana patch..... uh-huh, we got out of there forgetting how winded we were from the climb! Joe

There is a map now published called "Western Emigrant Trails". It is very detailed and shows almost all the immigrant trails and years established going west after the Mississippi crossings. You can write Western Emigrant Trails Research Center P.O. Box 641555 Omaha, NE 68164 or go to Google and look them up on the Internet. The map is well, well worth the money to get. Sherrieinfla ----- Original Message ----- From: <SJaneane@aol.com> To: <tncannon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] migration patterns > Was there a trend in migration patterns? I hear Texas and California > mentioned a lot when you all talk about families that kept moving west. > What about > the dates that families left? It sure would be interesting to have data on > families who left, where they went and when. > > I know families who farmed kept moving west when their soil was worn out. > I've read about families who were refugees during the War Between the > States > and went west. Then there were all the homesteaders after the Indians > were > moved on reservations in the west. Did people from particular states > tend to > move in patterns to particular states? Janeane > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My forefather's also lived in Cannon County (Wilson, Rutherford too). Why did they leave? Dad is 90 and here's what he says......Tennessee was in turmoil after the Civil War. It was brother against brother, men who never came home from war, farms left fallow if even tillable, gov't in disarray and chaos all around. My own family was a part of a huge wagon train that left Cannon County in about 1870 and finally settled in the Freestone County, TX area. The family migration continued well in the 20th century. Land was wide open "out west" and the southern sympathies were aplenty. Families were large and to divide land in TN became challenging. Land was more available and there was lots of it out west. I might also add that a degree of lawlessness continued in TN well into the 20th century. My grandparents both said that the Sheriff pretty much stayed in town and didn't venture out into the country much. Country folk took care of their own. Also, Cannon County, to my knowledge, never raised a Union Company to fight in the CW. Confederate sympathies were very strong within the county. Sherrie Paty Barber ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rhemann3566@aol.com> To: <tncannon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] TNCANNON Digest, Vol 2, Issue 109 > With regards to migration of families from Cannon County - I read a book > years ago on the subject of migration. One thing stuck with me - people > who are > comfortable with their circumstance don't tend to move. So I gather our > ancestors were getting 'uncomfortable' with their environment. My Markum > and > Sullins families tended to have large families. The family of Charles > Markum > numbered twelve children, eleven surviving. Just after the 1900 census > they all > boarded a wagon to the nearest railroad and traveled by train to Falls > County, > Texas - just south of Waco. There they farmed and some continued the > pattern > brought from Tennessee - the sons stayed with the head of the family and > helped on the farm. In this case, the youngest sons joined the war > efforts and > when they returned, they no longer wanted to farm. I've visited Cannon > County, > where my grandfather J.B.Markum was born. I wondered, too, why he and his > parents left such a beautiful place. > > Kathleen Rheman > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

With regards to migration of families from Cannon County - I read a book years ago on the subject of migration. One thing stuck with me - people who are comfortable with their circumstance don't tend to move. So I gather our ancestors were getting 'uncomfortable' with their environment. My Markum and Sullins families tended to have large families. The family of Charles Markum numbered twelve children, eleven surviving. Just after the 1900 census they all boarded a wagon to the nearest railroad and traveled by train to Falls County, Texas - just south of Waco. There they farmed and some continued the pattern brought from Tennessee - the sons stayed with the head of the family and helped on the farm. In this case, the youngest sons joined the war efforts and when they returned, they no longer wanted to farm. I've visited Cannon County, where my grandfather J.B.Markum was born. I wondered, too, why he and his parents left such a beautiful place. Kathleen Rheman ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

My husband's line comes down from Albert Francis the 2nd...brother to big John. I will be happy to share and send my entire Smithson file which is large. Can u scan pics? Barbara ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

have we exchanged info. on Big John Smithson? Your name sounds familiar. Barbara Hammons Davis ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I have a program GENSMARTS. I use it to print out research packs. It prints out call #'s for books as well as to do lists and more. You can try it your self for free. Link to Gensmarts : http://gensmarts.com/downloads.html I go to the Wisconsin Historical Society and several other places for research. The only thing all of them allow in the research room is a #2 pencil and loose leaf papers. One places limits me to 3 pages only. (Pre printed are ok.) It is always best to call or to write to see what the rules are before going Another thing they all have in common is they love donations. Some places have to limit operating hours to stay on budget. Or cant fix microfiche readers/viewers due to lack of money. If you can spare it, a few dollars can sometimes go a long way. Jelayne -------Original Message------- From: BJ Martindale Date: 5/18/2007 5:43:54 PM To: tncannon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Adams Memorial Library - Woodbury, TN. It is sad, but people steal things, and when dealing with books and Papers that cannot be replaced, it is necessary to limit what goes into The room so that the things that belong in it stay in it. The TN State Archives has a room where you can take in only a sheet of paper and Pencil (and some do not allow pens of any kind!) But it is we the public That have caused this to be necessary.

Yes Barbara we have corresponded. At least your name sounds familiar to me. So sure we have. I have a lot of info on Smithson's. One of our daughter in law's cousins has shared with me. Lots of pictures too. Not real good copies and are just on paper, no actual photographic paper. I'd be glad to share with you too Joe. What is your line of Smithson's? I have six or seven generations of them, maybe more. Marie

Was there a trend in migration patterns? I hear Texas and California mentioned a lot when you all talk about families that kept moving west. What about the dates that families left? It sure would be interesting to have data on families who left, where they went and when. I know families who farmed kept moving west when their soil was worn out. I've read about families who were refugees during the War Between the States and went west. Then there were all the homesteaders after the Indians were moved on reservations in the west. Did people from particular states tend to move in patterns to particular states? Janeane ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

We'd better communicate, Marie. We have Smithsons in our later lineage and Sapps earlier. The latter continues to cause me some heartburn. For what I have, take a look at http://dfc.cc. Joe M

I've enjoyed all the posts myself, and decided to reply. One of our daughter in laws ancestor was a Smithson. Big John Smithson was her line. He and family lived in Short Mountain, and he is buried there. First person to be buried there as I've been told. Now one of my mother's sister's married a Sapp. (He was a nice guy) regardless of the name. One of my favorite uncles. He was born in Oklahoma and moved to Ca., but his family might have come from TN before that. I have been in touch with a lady doing research at Short Mountain and she told me it has always been a very small place. Hope this helps some. Marie Clayton

What Kirby are you researching ? Know anything about Victoria Kirby that married Daniel-David Manus ?

I'm not sure I understand///// > All persons entering the genealogy room are asked to leave large items What is a 'large item'? I trust that is not a laptop, notebooks, research files, etc. I really don't see how much could be accomplished or I have a very limited vision of this. > Several years ago my husband, mother-in-law and I went to VA researching > family history. We could not even go in where the books were. We had to turn > in our drivers license and they handed us 3 books at a time. Yes, I have been to libraries like that and they are a PAIN. As I recall the library in the old customs house in Knoxville (the name of which I have forgotten) is that way... you have to fill out slips for the books selected from the index. Some wonderful resources there but an exasperating experience. > > The library will be open to the public on Saturday BUT MONDAY will be open > for researchers only. Joe

It is sad, but people steal things, and when dealing with books and papers that cannot be replaced, it is necessary to limit what goes into the room so that the things that belong in it stay in it. The TN State Archives has a room where you can take in only a sheet of paper and pencil (and some do not allow pens of any kind!) But it is we the public that have caused this to be necessary. BJ Patton Martindale . On Fri, 18 May 2007 15:54:54 -0500 Joe Sissom <joesissom@tx.rr.com> writes: > I'm not sure I understand///// > > > All persons entering the genealogy room are asked to leave large > items > What is a 'large item'? I trust that is not a laptop, notebooks, > research files, etc. I really don't see how much could be > accomplished > or I have a very limited vision of this. > > > Several years ago my husband, mother-in-law and I went to VA > researching > > family history. We could not even go in where the books were. We > had to turn > > in our drivers license and they handed us 3 books at a time. > Yes, I have been to libraries like that and they are a PAIN. As I > recall the library in the old customs house in Knoxville (the name > of > which I have forgotten) is that way... you have to fill out slips > for > the books selected from the index. Some wonderful resources there > but > an exasperating experience. > > > > The library will be open to the public on Saturday BUT MONDAY will > be open > > for researchers only. > > Joe > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > BJ Martindale 425-861-1981 bjmartindale@juno.com

Sorry to read about an unhappy researcher. All persons entering the genealogy room are asked to leave large items on the bench just outside the door (2 steps out of the room). This policy is used at most small libraries. Our reason is missing books or files. We do have a small alarm that goes off when people go in and out of the room in case the employee is on the other side of the room. Large libraries have bar codes that protect the papers and books. Several years ago my husband, mother-in-law and I went to VA researching family history. We could not even go in where the books were. We had to turn in our drivers license and they handed us 3 books at a time. (I'm sorry for the bad day at our library). I volunteer each Thursday 9 - 2 and have being doing this for over 5 years. I personally have a little information on the Campbell and Grizzle family that I would be glad to share if it's something she needs. For the "Care & Share Days" extra help will be available to help assist and also a place has been set up for sharing downstairs for exchanging family records. Upstairs will also have the use of the reference room next to the genealogy room. So books can be used in either room for these two days. The library will be open to the public on Saturday BUT MONDAY will be open for researchers only. Several people are bringing books to sell, so if you have any fell free to bring them. Good news - Monday June the 21st the library has been notified the new micro film reader will be delivered and Thursday the new copy machine will be delivered, which will make 2 of each. A time limit of 30 minutes on the micro film is always posted if someone else is waiting. Peggy Wilson Tate ptateovr@dtccom.net Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:19:46 -0500 From: "Ruth Peppers" <ruthpep@cherokeetel.com> Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Cannon County "Care & Share Days" To: <tncannon@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000601c797c5$415ddb50$3c01a8c0@peppershome> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I did like the library when I was there but it was not convenient for me. I was asked to leave all my research material out of the research room, I couldn't take anything in there with me. So it was a back & forth problem on my research. Will it be that way again.????? I got what I wanted but it just took me longer. Researching Campbell's, Grizzel's and etc.

Carol! Looking forward to seeing you and Wayne again. We'll be there Sat. AM. FYI, I am bringing a digital projector. John has approx. 1 gig pix of Sissom desc. & others, tombstones which we can project for all to see as well as databases for comparison purposes. If you use a laptop, bring it along and we can plug it in too. No software required. This will really be a celebration! Joe Wayne & Carol Russell wrote: > I am coming to believe more and more that everyone with ties to Cannon > County is related in some way! I looked at your info just to see and I found > - my gg-grandparents, Jesse and Katie Parker Sissom, - and there may be others > too! > > I am really looking forward to the meeting at the library on Memorial Day > weekend! I hope we will have a big turnout. Joe, I'll be there Saturday > morning (my main research line is Sissom) to meet with you and John and Ira > and hopefully many more that we can connect. I'm also hoping to meet some > Stacy/Stacey researchers and West researchers to see if I can solve a puzzle > about Martha Elizabeth Stacy's family (her mother was a West). > > It will be fun to finally put faces on many of the names that we see on this > list. I know some are not in Cannon County, but I hope the ones who are > will come to the library.

I will try and call him. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Sissom <joesissom@tx.rr.com> To: tncannon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] SPRY / PARKER Line Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 14:09:19 -0500 >Linda Gilley King, would you pls ask (demand?....teehee!) >Clyde Basham to be in the library Sat morning? I want to >do some serious comparisons on those that appear to be in >my lineage. > >I cannot recall Clyde originating anything on this list. > >BYFORD desc. are very high on my list also. > >And in case any PARKERs are reading, I think I have some >answers on where Silas and his bunch fit. > > >> This info came from Clyde Basham of this county. > >Joe > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >message

I am coming to believe more and more that everyone with ties to Cannon County is related in some way! Julie, I have no direct ties to either the Williams or Coley surnames but I looked at your info just to see and I found - my gg-grandparents, Jesse and Katie Parker Sissom, - my great aunt, Thursey McBride Gilley (by the way her full name is Mary Thirsa Elizabeth McBride), - my great-grandparents, James and Martha Stacy McBride, - Dave Cawthorn, who is not blood related, but he was the second husband of Martha Stacy McBride after the death of James McBride, - and there may be others too! I am really looking forward to the meeting at the library on Memorial Day weekend! I hope we will have a big turnout. Joe, I'll be there Saturday morning (my main research line is Sissom) to meet with you and John and Ira and hopefully many more that we can connect. I'm also hoping to meet some Stacy/Stacey researchers and West researchers to see if I can solve a puzzle about Martha Elizabeth Stacy's family (her mother was a West). It will be fun to finally put faces on many of the names that we see on this list. I know some are not in Cannon County, but I hope the ones who are will come to the library. Linda Gilley King, I hope to finally get to meet you. Who knows, we may all be cousins! Carol Russell Nashville, TN

The Dublin Dr Pepper plant is the oldest Dr Pepper plant and they have a birthday party 2nd Sat in June every year. It is really a great party, we went last year and it is really something. It is about 70 miles south west of Dallas. You can buy Dr Pepper, as well as T -shirts ,caps and just about anything you would like. It is well worth the trip to see the plant and museum. THe cake is made with Dr. Pepper and they have drink boxes all around filled with Dr Pepper and you can drink all you want. W will not be able to go to the party this year, but we will go later to get drinks Later Betty

I bet they are all connected in some way. You can see all of my info on the McDougal family here _My Williams and Coley Family_ (http://wehaveneatstuff.com/williamsc/) Julie ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.