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    1. Re: [TNCANNON] Lye Soap
    2. don markum
    3. you can type in lye soap in your sesarch bar and you can get the recipes. don Frances Simmons <fs.rooster@verizon.net> wrote: Has anyone every heard of or seen Lye Soap? My grandmother used to make her in a "Big Iron POT" in the yard. I have forgotten how she made it. When it was done and cool off she would then cut it into bars. Frances ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool.

    05/30/2007 02:58:49
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] Stories
    2. heather e blair
    3. I'd be curious about your sauerkraut recipe. Did anybody on the list make their own buttermilk? - Heather http://hblair.uchicago.edu/ On Wed, 30 May 2007, Frances Simmons wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have enjoyed you'll stories about "Homemade Biscuits and butter". My grandmother and Mother used to make their own biscuits, and churn their own butter.When i was growing up, it was homemade biscuits for breakfast, homemade cornbread for dinner and supper. Does anyone ever make homemake Kraut anymore? My grand mothe made it every spring, when they lived on the farm. You'll are bringing back some "GOOD OLD MEMORIES". > > Frances TX > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/30/2007 02:54:05
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] Stories
    2. m m
    3. My mother in law died 3 years ago at 82,very sudden.I still miss her.The last Kraut I made was helping her.She would grade the cabbage put it in a churn.She would always go out side find a fairly good size rock,wash it and then put a plate turned upside down over the Kraut,then put the rock on top of the plate.I never asked, just knew it was part of the progress.I guess now that I think of it,it was to stop the cabbage from rising out of the brine water so it would not turn dark.You talk about good.We would all raid the Kraut Churn as the Kraut was working 3-4 days into the progress.Wow nothing like that good salty cabbage taste. My grandmother used to have homemade butter.Sometimes she would have yellow butter & sometimes white.Granny said it was according to the cow.Not sure that is right.She might have just answering a child's question to get her out of her hair.My favorite was the white butter,just had a different taste.It was wonderful with molasses & biscuits.Brings back wonderful memories of my childhood.Running in Granny's door straight to her side board to see if there was anything sweet.If nothing else,there was always molasses and left over biscuits or I loved it on left over cornbread.Shows how times have changed.I still make biscuits when the kids come over but just for me and my husband I use the frozen ones.Granny would not know what to think of frozen biscuits and would scold me good for using them.She died in 1976

    05/30/2007 02:22:05
    1. [TNCANNON] Stories
    2. Frances Simmons
    3. Hi Everyone, I have enjoyed you'll stories about "Homemade Biscuits and butter". My grandmother and Mother used to make their own biscuits, and churn their own butter.When i was growing up, it was homemade biscuits for breakfast, homemade cornbread for dinner and supper. Does anyone ever make homemake Kraut anymore? My grand mothe made it every spring, when they lived on the farm. You'll are bringing back some "GOOD OLD MEMORIES". Frances TX

    05/30/2007 01:45:08
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] Joe's Place
    2. m m
    3. Wow congrats,That was a great honor

    05/29/2007 05:15:26
    1. [TNCANNON] Biscuits
    2. Mabel Phillips
    3. My dad usually did not cook. But, he expected (required) hot fresh bread at every meal - cornbread for dinner and summer; biscuits for breakfast. One of the worst insults he could think of for a woman was that she had served "store-bought light bread" at a meal. When I was about six, my sister had her tonsils out and my mother spent the night at the hospital with her. I could fry some sausage and eggs and make gravy by then, but biscuits were a bit beyond me. Dad had been in the CCC and may have picked up a bit of cooking then. Anyway, he made the biscuits. They were pretty good, brown and fluffy and hot. We had no difficulty finishing them just fine. But that's not what we remembered. There were three of us children home that morning and Dad. In the big pan where we baked bread in the woodburning cook stove, he divided the dough into just four biscuits - about the size of ham steaks. Ever after, just the mention of "big biscuits" would send us children into gales of laughter. He said we were going to eat them all anyway, and it just didn't make sense to waste time making a bunch of little old round biscuits. Betty G. McCollum wrote: > Cecelia: > I so enjoyed your stories about "biscuits". I am a pretty good cook, >but just in the last few years have I learned to make good biscuits. Mine, >too, would usually come out flat. I used to tell my kids we could take them >somewhere where they were having a skeet shoot, and I could supply the >skeets (my biscusits). One thing about it, I am very determined, and >finally I can make them that come out pretty good. > Betty Mc in Arkansas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cecelia" <cheinric@suddenlink.net> > To: <tncannon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:50 PM > Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Joes > > > > My dad was crazy about homemade biscuits. He sold insurance, at one >point > > in his life, and had to go around collecting the money. Nearly every >house, > > would give him homemade biscuits. By supper time, he wasn't so hungry. >My > > mother would be so angry because he didn't want the big meals she cooked >for > > him when he got home! But, as sure as she would fix a small supper, he > > would be starving and had not had any biscuits. Sometimes because she >had > > been so mad the night before when he wouldn't eat much! > > We had to make biscuits in our freshman homemaking class. That is > > hilarious. > > I was terrified to strike a match and light the oven, or even the little >gas > > hotplates we used. When I was 4, I was playing with candles, had a tea > > party for my dolls, and caught my dress on fire. I was scared of >matches > > and fire of any kind after that. So, I was more concerned about >lighting > > the oven, than how my biscuits came out. > > In our class of 8 girls, everyone's biscuits came out different. Some >came > > out flat and crisp, like crackers. Others, rose so tall, they fell >over! > > In my same pan, I had some that came out just right, some flat as >crackers, > > and some that rose so tall they fell over like a slinky! > > We had to memorize the recipe, had tests on it, etc. I thought I would > > never forget that recipe, but I have. Maybe it's just as well since my > > biscuits came out so funny! However, other girls used it and it worked >just > > fine for them over the years. > > And then there was the time when we had to make eggs. We each took a > > different recipe to make and there was one girl more than the teacher >had > > recipes for. She had been helping in the cafeteria so missed out. The > > teacher took her to the cafeteria and got her something "special" to >make. > > This was about in 1950, remember. > > Well, we made scrambled eggs, boiled eggs, poached eggs, fried, etc. >But my > > cousin Doris had the most questionable eggs. The teacher brought her a >big > > can, like popcorn comes in now, or potato chips used to come in, from >the > > cafeteria. In it were government supplies for the cafeteria, which were > > basically war surplus. My cousin got to make powdered eggs. > > Well, that should have been alright, as they were using these in the > > cafeteria food. But, this can was left over from the War. The eggs >were > > green. > > So we had green scrambled eggs long before we ever heard of "Green Eggs >and > > Ham". Talk about some girls trying to sneak their food into the trash >can > > any way we could! We were "required" to eat everything we cooked, but >we > > were all willing to take an F rather than eat those awful looking eggs. >The > > "cook", my cousin, did eat her's while the teacher was watching her, but >the > > rest of us sneaked ours into the trashcan, then ran out of the room, >leaving > > my poor cousin alone with the teacher, and having to eat her whole >serving > > of green eggs. She said they weren't that bad, if you didn't look at >them. > > Oh, my. I don't care that much for biscuits. But I do like to put them > > into boiling liquids (like soup or gravy) and use them for dumplings. I > > think it is the baking soda in the biscuits that I don't care for. They > > have a bit of a sour taste to them, that I'm not wild about. I like >rolls > > much better. > > My daughter picked up some Churches fried chicken the other day, with > > biscuits with honey butter on top. Couldn't taste the honey, but it >made > > the biscuits hard on top. The chicken wasn't very good, and had really >small > > pieces. (Churches used to have huge pieces with lots of batter.) But, >the > > worst was the mashed potatoes. Don't know if they used spoiled milk or >sour > > cream in them, but we threw them away. > > One thing I really don't like is the change in the "grease" companies >are > > doing. I haven't tasted Kentucky Fried Chicken yet, but I'll bet it is > > awful. At lunch, I usuall make a sandwich and have some Lay's Wavey >sour > > cream and onion potato chips, or plain chips. Now, here, in Texas, >anyway, > > they have started using sunflower oil to cook in. That stuff is awful! >The > > only chips they aren't putting it in are Cheetos, so far. The "new" >chips > > taste like greasey cardboard, with a little salt. They are hard and >dry. I > > can't chew them for anything without soaking them in soup! > > I guess I am going to have to fry my own potatoes in Crisco, if I want >some > > potatoes with my sandwich! 8>)) Companies should give us a choice, if >we > > want to eat their nasty health food or if we want the real stuff. > > I believe I read an article about the need to go back to using the real > > sugar, instead of this fructose stuff. They said it isn't as good for >you > > as first believed, and it is making prices go up due to corn shortages. >I > > think that was online, if I remember correctly. > > Well, hooray for Pioneer Biscuit Mix, and refrigerated biscuits. Wish I > > could find some good old dewberry jelly to go with them! Love those > > dewberries, but no one goes out to pick them and sell them anymore. I >had a > > lot in my yard, but I wasn't about to put my hand in those weeds to pick > > them. I got 4 berries this year, about 4 last year. Well, that's >enough to > > use in painting a picture! But sure would like some good dewberry jelly >and > > cobbler! > > Cecelia in Texas > > > > > > > > > >> Put Joe's Menu online and lets see what they have ? > >> I want a Cathead Biscuit !! Never figured on how to make them. >Biscuits > >> have been my downfall in cooking. Then I eat them and my sugar goes to >400 > >> ! > >> Kevin Morgan > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

    05/29/2007 04:50:53
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] A Big Thank You!
    2. m m
    3. I am to.My husbands family fought for the North and all of mine fought for the South.No matter which side,men fought and died for what they believed was right

    05/29/2007 04:26:25
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] Joes
    2. m m
    3. Wow people never heard of KFC.It is the only chicken we eat anymore.

    05/29/2007 04:15:24
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] Joes
    2. Jess Lewis
    3. WOW !!! What planet are you folks from? I thought everyone on this planet had tasted Kentucky Fried Chicken, at least once. I think it's pretty tasty, myself & I've eaten a lot of "good" southern fried chicken, in my life. Jess

    05/29/2007 03:27:16
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] Joes
    2. Betty G. McCollum
    3. Cecelia: I so enjoyed your stories about "biscuits". I am a pretty good cook, but just in the last few years have I learned to make good biscuits. Mine, too, would usually come out flat. I used to tell my kids we could take them somewhere where they were having a skeet shoot, and I could supply the skeets (my biscusits). One thing about it, I am very determined, and finally I can make them that come out pretty good. Betty Mc in Arkansas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cecelia" <cheinric@suddenlink.net> To: <tncannon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Joes > My dad was crazy about homemade biscuits. He sold insurance, at one point > in his life, and had to go around collecting the money. Nearly every house, > would give him homemade biscuits. By supper time, he wasn't so hungry. My > mother would be so angry because he didn't want the big meals she cooked for > him when he got home! But, as sure as she would fix a small supper, he > would be starving and had not had any biscuits. Sometimes because she had > been so mad the night before when he wouldn't eat much! > We had to make biscuits in our freshman homemaking class. That is > hilarious. > I was terrified to strike a match and light the oven, or even the little gas > hotplates we used. When I was 4, I was playing with candles, had a tea > party for my dolls, and caught my dress on fire. I was scared of matches > and fire of any kind after that. So, I was more concerned about lighting > the oven, than how my biscuits came out. > In our class of 8 girls, everyone's biscuits came out different. Some came > out flat and crisp, like crackers. Others, rose so tall, they fell over! > In my same pan, I had some that came out just right, some flat as crackers, > and some that rose so tall they fell over like a slinky! > We had to memorize the recipe, had tests on it, etc. I thought I would > never forget that recipe, but I have. Maybe it's just as well since my > biscuits came out so funny! However, other girls used it and it worked just > fine for them over the years. > And then there was the time when we had to make eggs. We each took a > different recipe to make and there was one girl more than the teacher had > recipes for. She had been helping in the cafeteria so missed out. The > teacher took her to the cafeteria and got her something "special" to make. > This was about in 1950, remember. > Well, we made scrambled eggs, boiled eggs, poached eggs, fried, etc. But my > cousin Doris had the most questionable eggs. The teacher brought her a big > can, like popcorn comes in now, or potato chips used to come in, from the > cafeteria. In it were government supplies for the cafeteria, which were > basically war surplus. My cousin got to make powdered eggs. > Well, that should have been alright, as they were using these in the > cafeteria food. But, this can was left over from the War. The eggs were > green. > So we had green scrambled eggs long before we ever heard of "Green Eggs and > Ham". Talk about some girls trying to sneak their food into the trash can > any way we could! We were "required" to eat everything we cooked, but we > were all willing to take an F rather than eat those awful looking eggs. The > "cook", my cousin, did eat her's while the teacher was watching her, but the > rest of us sneaked ours into the trashcan, then ran out of the room, leaving > my poor cousin alone with the teacher, and having to eat her whole serving > of green eggs. She said they weren't that bad, if you didn't look at them. > Oh, my. I don't care that much for biscuits. But I do like to put them > into boiling liquids (like soup or gravy) and use them for dumplings. I > think it is the baking soda in the biscuits that I don't care for. They > have a bit of a sour taste to them, that I'm not wild about. I like rolls > much better. > My daughter picked up some Churches fried chicken the other day, with > biscuits with honey butter on top. Couldn't taste the honey, but it made > the biscuits hard on top. The chicken wasn't very good, and had really small > pieces. (Churches used to have huge pieces with lots of batter.) But, the > worst was the mashed potatoes. Don't know if they used spoiled milk or sour > cream in them, but we threw them away. > One thing I really don't like is the change in the "grease" companies are > doing. I haven't tasted Kentucky Fried Chicken yet, but I'll bet it is > awful. At lunch, I usuall make a sandwich and have some Lay's Wavey sour > cream and onion potato chips, or plain chips. Now, here, in Texas, anyway, > they have started using sunflower oil to cook in. That stuff is awful! The > only chips they aren't putting it in are Cheetos, so far. The "new" chips > taste like greasey cardboard, with a little salt. They are hard and dry. I > can't chew them for anything without soaking them in soup! > I guess I am going to have to fry my own potatoes in Crisco, if I want some > potatoes with my sandwich! 8>)) Companies should give us a choice, if we > want to eat their nasty health food or if we want the real stuff. > I believe I read an article about the need to go back to using the real > sugar, instead of this fructose stuff. They said it isn't as good for you > as first believed, and it is making prices go up due to corn shortages. I > think that was online, if I remember correctly. > Well, hooray for Pioneer Biscuit Mix, and refrigerated biscuits. Wish I > could find some good old dewberry jelly to go with them! Love those > dewberries, but no one goes out to pick them and sell them anymore. I had a > lot in my yard, but I wasn't about to put my hand in those weeds to pick > them. I got 4 berries this year, about 4 last year. Well, that's enough to > use in painting a picture! But sure would like some good dewberry jelly and > cobbler! > Cecelia in Texas > > > > >> Put Joe's Menu online and lets see what they have ? >> I want a Cathead Biscuit !! Never figured on how to make them. Biscuits >> have been my downfall in cooking. Then I eat them and my sugar goes to 400 >> ! >> Kevin Morgan >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    05/29/2007 03:03:21
    1. [TNCANNON] Butter
    2. Kevin Morgan
    3. Does anyone in Middle TN still make their own butter ? My Aunt in Bedford County, TN use to churn her own from fresh milk way back when. It had a unique taste, probably because of no salt. She would roll it up in a small ball and put it in cheese cloth. She would always send us home some when we visited. A little question for those who live down that way. Between Murfressboro and Shelbyville on US 231, there is a Big Hill. My aunt said it was called Signal Mountain. I think it had a laarge tower on it when I was young. My aunt said a neighbor of hers in the 1950's who was in her 90's, said her father owned a part of the land below it during the War. Said some troops had came through there with a wagon loaded with silver. When they thought they would be attacked soon, the Commander ordered the silver to be buried on the mountain. The residents were kept away while this was being done. Has anyone ever heard of this Story also ? Kevin Morgan

    05/29/2007 02:46:51
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] Joe's Place
    2. Kevin Morgan
    3. Seeing someone talking about KFC, I was made a " Kentucky Colonel " in April by Governor Ernie Fletcher of Kentucky. It was a surprise ! A Tinsley relative of mine in KY had written the Governor last Fall and nominated me. It is a Great Honor. Kevin Morgan

    05/29/2007 02:37:34
    1. [TNCANNON] Joe's Place
    2. Jess Lewis
    3. Linda, So, who is the Joseph (Joe) Parker (Buried at Gilley Hill) who died in 2002 and is buried with his wife, Jo Joyce, who died in January, 2007? It mentions "Joe's Place, on their Tombstone. I seem to remember the article in the Cannon Courier about him and "Joe's Place", when he died. Jess Lewis

    05/29/2007 01:27:22
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] A Big Thank You!
    2. Jess Lewis
    3. Linda, So, who is the Joseph (Joe) Parker who died in 2002 and is buried with his wife, Jo Joyce, who died in January, 2007? It mentions "Joe's Place, on their Tombstone. Jess Lewis

    05/29/2007 11:58:22
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] A Big Thank You!
    2. Jess Lewis
    3. Joe's Place, on the Square, in Woodbury, was owned and ran by Joseph (Joe) Parker, for many years. He died in 2002. He & his wife are buried in Gilley Hill Cemetery. The place and name was so popular, that even though it was sold, it retained the name "Joe's Place". Jess

    05/29/2007 11:52:49
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] Cannon reunion
    2. Cecelia
    3. Thanks for the write up, for those of us who couldn't be there. Sounds like a great trip and gathering, despite some travel difficulties. Anyone else have a write up to share? I wouldn't be able to go anyway, but this might be a hard time for people with kids winding up the school year, to travel. There is graduation and all that going on, too. Teachers finishing up the school year-that sort of thing. Some people might be able to travel more after the school year is over. It wouldn't affect those close by, probably, but it might make a difference to those who have to travel a long way. Just a thought I had. I grew up in a town that is known for being in a time warp! 8>)) the cemetery is like a park, complete with benches and sculptures. I always wondered if the places my grand and great-grandparents lived were like where I grew up. Cecelia > All of y'all got home y'day before we did --- an anticipated 11 hr drive > became 14: blowout, lugnut caps broken (not even the hiway patrolman > that helped us had seen this), freeway closed becasue of wreck, hard > rain..... > > Gilley Hill, perhaps all of Cannon Co., is in a time warp. How long has > it been since you have seen a store w/ a screen door? Joe's has one. > My Sissom cousins from GA, 1st timers: "Joe I thot you were exaggerating > just to get us to come, but you downplayed it." Another comment: > "This is not like a cemetery. It has benches." "I've never seen a > cemetery like this. It is a real celebration." > And how about the family that insists on mounding the graves, something > very new to me, and upsetting to some members of the the same family. I > am told that this comes out of the Church of Christ via scripture, > "Don't let the grass grow on my grave." I have written a very devout C > of C member/cousin for her comment. > > The sharing sessions had fewer people than I had hoped, more than I > expected, some from TX, IN, GA, AR, SC, NC. The noise level at times > approached that of an airport. 12 nano seconds after I arrived, being > met by Danny Nichols (who was invaluable in putting things together for > the meeting), we found we had common Fuston ancestors --- as does the > librarian's husband! I didn't get any Byford help, but did get insights > on Bashams. > > My cousin Jerry, born & raised in Cannon, never involved in research, > visited w/ us Mon. and had lunch at Joe's. Before he left, he told me, > "Joe, I'm beginning to see why you like this. All of these people are > so interested in what is, and what was, here, where they came from. > They have asked me so many questions. I hope they all come back and > I'll take them anywhere." FYI, on my 1st trip to Cannon some years > ago, I wanted to go to the Espy cave (goes by many names) which was the > site of may family gatherings) and Jerry took me, having to scramble up > & down one of the steep ridges to do it. > > Now if only Woodbury had a motel!!! > > I hope those of you who weren't there are realizing that those of us who > were are trying to make your mouth water. Yes, I found new cousins, but > most of all, I found some new FRIENDS. This was more about friends than > genealogy, I guess. Jeanine & I will be back next year. Thanks to all > of you who contributed to a marvelous experience. > > Joe >

    05/29/2007 11:07:40
    1. [TNCANNON] Joes
    2. Kevin Morgan
    3. Put Joe's Menu online and lets see what they have ? I want a Cathead Biscuit !! Never figured on how to make them. Biscuits have been my downfall in cooking. Then I eat them and my sugar goes to 400 ! Kevin Morgan

    05/29/2007 11:05:05
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] A Big Thank You!
    2. Kevin Morgan
    3. Just contact your local American Legion and they can direct you on how to do this. All mine are small too. I decorate all of them, if they are confederate or union. I am proud of our ancestors ! Kevin

    05/29/2007 11:03:28
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] A Big Thank You!
    2. Kevin Morgan
    3. Jess, Are you going to put your Cemetery Book on CD soon ? That would be a good buy if you did. Kevin

    05/29/2007 10:48:37
    1. Re: [TNCANNON] Butter, Chicken, etc.
    2. Cecelia
    3. I wondered if Blue Bell had spread across the country, so I went to their website. http://www.bluebell.com/history.aspx It seems they are celebrating their 100th anniversary. Under the recipes sections, it tells how to make an old fashioned chocloate malt. We like to make floats, but one thing I make that tastes like the soda fountain drink, is a chocolate soda. I put chocolate ice cream in a glass, then fill it with 7Up or Sprite. Put in a straw and a spoon, and it tastes just like a soda from the old drugstore. We used to have a Swenson's here, that had the old fashioned drugstore treats, hamburgers, sandwiches, etc. But it was closed a year or so ago. I can't understand how popular places like that close up, when they have good business. The newspaper said it because the profits weren't that high. The Black Eyed Pea even closed up, and it was always full, and right across the street from the university, too. Yet, there are so many new places opening, and the place is really growing. Cecelia in Texas > We've had it in Missouri for a long time. > > Cecelia wrote: > >>I had heard that Blue Bell had branched out to other places, as well. A

    05/29/2007 09:37:56