Correction on Joyce's name it is Jo Joyce Parker. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "welk@heartoftn.net" <welk@heartoftn.net> To: tncannon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] A Big Thank You! Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 13:48:13 GMT >Joseph Arlin Parker (Joe of Joe's place) died 12/4/2002. >His wife, Joe Joyce Parker, died 1/12/2007 and is buried >next to Joe. >Linda >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jess Lewis" <kr4oj@bellsouth.net> >To: <tncannon@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] A Big Thank You! >Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:58:22 -0500 > >>Linda, >>So, who is the Joseph (Joe) Parker who died in 2002 and is >>buried with his wife, Jo Joyce, who died in January, >>2007? It mentions "Joe's Place, on their Tombstone. >> >>Jess Lewis >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >message

Joseph Arlin Parker (Joe of Joe's place) died 12/4/2002. His wife, Joe Joyce Parker, died 1/12/2007 and is buried next to Joe. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jess Lewis" <kr4oj@bellsouth.net> To: <tncannon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] A Big Thank You! Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:58:22 -0500 >Linda, >So, who is the Joseph (Joe) Parker who died in 2002 and is >buried with his wife, Jo Joyce, who died in January, 2007? >It mentions "Joe's Place, on their Tombstone. > >Jess Lewis > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >message

Many household products contain lye, the chemical sodium hydroxide. Lye is a caustic, alkaline chemical, which means it dissolves sticky substances like fat, and has a high degree of reactivity with other materials. Lye, in a flake, granular, or liquid form, is very dangerous and can cause damage to surfaces and people. Lye is created out of a chemical reaction between soda, known as sodium carbonate, and calcium hydroxide, or lime. In raw form, it's made into solid flakes, chips, or grains. Chemical suppliers provide lye to manufacturers to make a wide variety of products, such as fabric, paper, personal soap, laundry detergent, pool-cleaning supplies, metal polishers, and drain de-cloggers. Since households utilize so many poisonous products, they must take care to keep cleaners out of the reach of children and only use them as directed. For instance, carefully follow the directions to clean a sterling silver gravy boat with lye-based polish, because even the fumes can be dangerous. Never use products like drain de-clogger or paint stripper without enough air circulation. Caustic lye products pose other dangers to surfaces. They can dissolve substances to your advantage, like hair clogs in a shower drain, as well as to your detriment, such as the adjacent shower curtain. In fact, lye can damage and corrode paint, metal, cloth, plastic, and especially skin. Lye can be so reactive that, in its solid form, it should be kept away from metals, such as aluminum, and the open air. It's usually non-combustible when dry, but could ignite when mixed with water and cause a fire. Before the modern manufacture of lye, people were able to make it out of raw materials. For thousands of years, people have used lye for soap making and tanning hides. They burned certain hardwoods at a very high temperature to make white, not gray, ashes. Apple trees, oak, and seaweed kelp make ideal fuels. Then water, mixed with a bit of baking soda, penetrates the ashes and removes the lye they contain. When the ashes are filtered out, the water holds enough lye to dissolve fat left on animal furs, or to mix with other ingredients to make strong body soap.

I have never had handmade hominy. Frances From: "Betty G. McCollum" <betmac@centurytel.net> Date: 2007/05/30 Wed AM 11:48:33 CDT To: tncannon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Lye Soap My mom used to make lye soap; also hominy. Have you all ever seen hominy being made in the old black wash kettle? It's delicious. Betty Mc in Ar. ----- Original Message ----- From: "don markum" <markumhosta2000@yahoo.com> To: <tncannon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Lye Soap > you can type in lye soap in your sesarch bar and you can get the recipes. don > > Frances Simmons <fs.rooster@verizon.net> wrote: Has anyone every heard of or seen Lye Soap? My grandmother used to make her in a "Big Iron POT" in the yard. I have forgotten how she made it. When it was done and cool off she would then cut it into bars. > Frances > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda all my grandmother receipes and etc. Had to come from either Cannon or Coffee co. Frances From: "welk@heartoftn.net" <welk@heartoftn.net> Date: 2007/05/30 Wed PM 12:58:56 CDT To: tncannon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Stories I used to make kraut every summer. Just salt, water and chopped cabbage. I will try and find my receipe but one thing for sure after you put it in the jars & put the lids on you need to set them in a dark and preferrably cool place like a basement. Before I had a basement I set them under the floor away from any light. Be sure and sit the jars on several layers of newspapers. When it starts to ferment it will ooze out from under the lids and down on the floor. My mother and father-in-law taught me how to cut it with an old timey kraut knife (big blade on end of a stick) but the last few years I just put it in the blender or chopper. Works just as good and much quicker and easier. Linda Gilley King ----- Original Message ----- From: Frances Simmons <fs.rooster@verizon.net> To: tncannon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Stories Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:17:48 -0500 (CDT) >I can remember my grandmother adding water and salt, but >I don't remember how much. She would check it everyday, >until it was just so-so. Then she would can it in fruit >jars. I know she done a lot of canning in the spring, >with a pressure cooker on her wood cook stove(back in >those days). Even her peaches, she would cut them up and >cook them, and then can them. Everything was better back in >those "Days". Frances > > > >From: m m <alabamanonna@webtv.net> >Date: 2007/05/30 Wed AM 09:08:36 CDT >To: tncannon@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Stories > >My mother in law was the only one that knew how to make the >Kraut,I was just there to help.I do not remember how much >salt there was but remember it was alot.Best of my memory >tells me it was only water,alot of salt & Cabage.I will >call her sister,She still makes Kraut.As to the Buttermilk >,I remember my mother in law just letting cow milk set out >untill it clabbered.YUCK I don't like it to drink but like >it in bread.Now she used to buy powered milk when she could >not get cow milk.Same thing,Mix it up and let it sit out >and clabber. > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, everybody for the recipes and reminiscenses. Maybe some day I'll try making sauerkraut myself. - Heather http://hblair.uchicago.edu/ On Wed, 30 May 2007, Frances Simmons wrote: > Thanks Don, I thought it was por fat, but wasn't sure. My grandmother used to made it then hog killing time. She would use the OLD TIMEY Lard, back when I was growing up. Frances > > > > > From: don markum <markumhosta2000@yahoo.com> > Date: 2007/05/30 Wed AM 10:58:49 CDT > To: tncannon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Lye Soap > > you can type in lye soap in your sesarch bar and you can get the recipes. don > > Frances Simmons <fs.rooster@verizon.net> wrote: Has anyone every heard of or seen Lye Soap? My grandmother used to make her in a "Big Iron POT" in the yard. I have forgotten how she made it. When it was done and cool off she would then cut it into bars. > Frances > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Don, I thought it was por fat, but wasn't sure. My grandmother used to made it then hog killing time. She would use the OLD TIMEY Lard, back when I was growing up. Frances From: don markum <markumhosta2000@yahoo.com> Date: 2007/05/30 Wed AM 10:58:49 CDT To: tncannon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Lye Soap you can type in lye soap in your sesarch bar and you can get the recipes. don Frances Simmons <fs.rooster@verizon.net> wrote: Has anyone every heard of or seen Lye Soap? My grandmother used to make her in a "Big Iron POT" in the yard. I have forgotten how she made it. When it was done and cool off she would then cut it into bars. Frances ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Most schools around here end with graduation the Friday or Saturday before Memorial Day, with teachers having to go back for a workday on Memorial Day, or a few schools get out the week after Memorial Day. In some areas, especially further north, schools are not out until in June. In all my 36 years of teaching, I never was off for Memorial Day. I usually worked the week after school was out, packing up art supplies, making out orders for the next year, cleaining, and finishing up posting grades. Took a long time for me to do inventory, with counting every needle, bead, pan of watercolor, brush, pencil, and all those things that art teachers accumulate! And to order for the following year, within a small budget. I thought there had been a discussion about doing a reunion in the summer time. I don't get to travel, so it wouldn't affect me, but it might help out some who have school, work and vacation time to consider. Cecelia I'm anxious to see the pictures! > Cecelia, et al, >> I wouldn't be able to go anyway, but this might be a hard time for people >> with kids winding up the school year, to travel. > Very few schools run into June. The date is set based on Decoration Day > at Gilley Hill, a very large and fascinating event, as described. Wait > until you see some of the pix. > > Joe >

I remember going for walks with my grandmother in Ft. Worth, around their new suburban neighborhood. At the end of the street, there was still country, with a pasture that held a riding stable where we could rent horses. Of course, that happened rarely. We were more likely to do something that didn't cost anything-like a walk, or playing solitaire, or just sitting on the porche, watching the cars go by, when we visited. Grandma would stop at certain bushes, and break off twigs, that she said made good toothbrushes. I didn't want to put a dirty stick in my mouth, but she proceeded to laugh and show us how to brush. She did use snuff, and her teeth were not very white. I wondered why she just didn't go to the store and get some toothpaste and a toothbrush. (She did have those at home, but she seemed to like those sticks.) She just brushed, threw the sticks away, took a few home with her. She would also find bushes with twigs that made good switches, for the legs of whiney little girls who wanted to go home! Sure did sting! My younger cousin said the stern tone of voice and a good pinch did it for them. On those walks, Grandma also told us about her father, the doctor, using cobwebs to stop bleeding. I could imagine big spiders and cobwebs, maybe in a barn. That made my mind turn to more pleasant things, like my boyfriend. So, I don't recall the other interesting things she might have said. Cecelia >I have two small sticks tied with a rag in a snuff box.Daddy says it was > his grandmothers sweetgum toothbrushes,She would use the frayed ends of > te small twings to brush the snuff off her teeth. > The ones I have had not been used thank goodness > > >

Frances , you can use beef fat to make lye soap it will come out real yellow Hog fat or lard will be whiter i would think. i have seen some made from crisco shortening it is real white. the imporant thing is the amount of lye to fat ratio.. The real strong stuff will remove all dirt and two layers of skin, if you have to use it. it sure makes the washing come out clean , and has its own smell. don Frances Simmons <fs.rooster@verizon.net> wrote: Thanks Don, I thought it was por fat, but wasn't sure. My grandmother used to made it then hog killing time. She would use the OLD TIMEY Lard, back when I was growing up. Frances From: don markum Date: 2007/05/30 Wed AM 10:58:49 CDT To: tncannon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Lye Soap you can type in lye soap in your sesarch bar and you can get the recipes. don Frances Simmons wrote: Has anyone every heard of or seen Lye Soap? My grandmother used to make her in a "Big Iron POT" in the yard. I have forgotten how she made it. When it was done and cool off she would then cut it into bars. Frances ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

My mom used to make lye soap; also hominy. Have you all ever seen hominy being made in the old black wash kettle? It's delicious. Betty Mc in Ar. ----- Original Message ----- From: "don markum" <markumhosta2000@yahoo.com> To: <tncannon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Lye Soap > you can type in lye soap in your sesarch bar and you can get the recipes. don > > Frances Simmons <fs.rooster@verizon.net> wrote: Has anyone every heard of or seen Lye Soap? My grandmother used to make her in a "Big Iron POT" in the yard. I have forgotten how she made it. When it was done and cool off she would then cut it into bars. > Frances > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Healther, Isn't buttermilk the liquid that is left after making butter? Or at least, isn't that what it used to be? I know now it is cultured. Jane

my dad said there was a whip snake in the swamps also. However the stinging snake would stick its take into something and it would did. saw a tree die one time myself. Ran to my grandpa and the dogs got it. Jeannie ----- Original Message ----- From: "m m" <alabamanonna@webtv.net> To: <tncannon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Snake >I had never heard of the stinging snake but my granny tod me of a whip > snake that ran her down and whiped her legs leaving whelps,.Often > wondered if it might have been a black racer > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

not yet, however Henry Kirby had between 15 and 18 children. He died in 1879 Henry Kirby of Stokes Co NC Then family moved to middle TN Jeannie ----- Original Message ----- From: "m m" <alabamanonna@webtv.net> To: <tncannon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] REUNION > Do you have a Victoria Kirby early 1800 in your line.Married > David-Daniel Manus > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, I have churned many a churn of milk in my younger days. You let the milk clabber by letting it sit out of the cooler overnight, and the cream rises to the top. Put it into an old crock churn and then with a wooden dasher and handle we would sit and churn the clabbered milk for about an hour or so until the butter rose to the top. We would then take the butter off the top of the milk and what was left in the crock churn was called buttermilk. We would then take the butter and work it with an old cedar wooden butter paddle until all the milk was worked out of it (sorta like kneading dough, except with the cedar paddle) . The longer you worked with it, the more yellow the butter got, because unless you work all the milk out of the butter, it will be lighter or whiter. Therefore working the milk out of the butter is what makes the color brighter. Anybody out there ever chew gum from a Sweetgum tree?? I have, and oh my, that stuff really sticks to your teeth until you get it chewed down for a while. I've made sourkraut too. Now days I don't go thru the process of using the old crock churn, I just chop my fresh cabbage up, pack it in a quart fruit jar, put about a tablespoonful of salt on the top and pour boiling water over it , and then put the top on the jar and sit it in the pantry to sour. Don't seal the jar lid, because it might explode as it ferments. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frances Simmons" <fs.rooster@verizon.net> To: <tncannon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Stories > I don't remember how my grandmother done her buttermilk, but they had a > Separater to separate the cream from her milk. The buttermilk today, one > kind is got to much water in it, I can find some like the old kind. I like > cornbread and buttermilk, but I don't like the 25 kind. > Frances > > > > > From: heather e blair <h431@uchicago.edu> > Date: 2007/05/30 Wed AM 08:54:05 CDT > To: tncannon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Stories > > I'd be curious about your sauerkraut recipe. Did anybody on the list make > their own buttermilk? > > - Heather > > http://hblair.uchicago.edu/ > > > > On Wed, 30 May 2007, Frances Simmons wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I have enjoyed you'll stories about "Homemade Biscuits and butter". My >> grandmother and Mother used to make their own biscuits, and churn their >> own butter.When i was growing up, it was homemade biscuits for >> breakfast, homemade cornbread for dinner and supper. Does anyone ever >> make homemake Kraut anymore? My grand mothe made it every spring, when >> they lived on the farm. You'll are bringing back some "GOOD OLD >> MEMORIES". >> >> Frances TX >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Has anyone every heard of or seen Lye Soap? My grandmother used to make her in a "Big Iron POT" in the yard. I have forgotten how she made it. When it was done and cool off she would then cut it into bars. Frances

In TN, Mother said that my grandparents had a little Spring" to keep them Milk and butter. I did get to see one when I was back there in 1960s. My Mother used to tell stories of how they did back in TN."Tennessee Tales" I used to call them. Until we went back in the 1960s and she prove the stories wasn't tales. Frances From: heather e blair <h431@uchicago.edu> Date: 2007/05/30 Wed AM 08:54:05 CDT To: tncannon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Stories I'd be curious about your sauerkraut recipe. Did anybody on the list make their own buttermilk? - Heather http://hblair.uchicago.edu/ On Wed, 30 May 2007, Frances Simmons wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have enjoyed you'll stories about "Homemade Biscuits and butter". My grandmother and Mother used to make their own biscuits, and churn their own butter.When i was growing up, it was homemade biscuits for breakfast, homemade cornbread for dinner and supper. Does anyone ever make homemake Kraut anymore? My grand mothe made it every spring, when they lived on the farm. You'll are bringing back some "GOOD OLD MEMORIES". > > Frances TX > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't remember how my grandmother done her buttermilk, but they had a Separater to separate the cream from her milk. The buttermilk today, one kind is got to much water in it, I can find some like the old kind. I like cornbread and buttermilk, but I don't like the 25 kind. Frances From: heather e blair <h431@uchicago.edu> Date: 2007/05/30 Wed AM 08:54:05 CDT To: tncannon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Stories I'd be curious about your sauerkraut recipe. Did anybody on the list make their own buttermilk? - Heather http://hblair.uchicago.edu/ On Wed, 30 May 2007, Frances Simmons wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I have enjoyed you'll stories about "Homemade Biscuits and butter". My grandmother and Mother used to make their own biscuits, and churn their own butter.When i was growing up, it was homemade biscuits for breakfast, homemade cornbread for dinner and supper. Does anyone ever make homemake Kraut anymore? My grand mothe made it every spring, when they lived on the farm. You'll are bringing back some "GOOD OLD MEMORIES". > > Frances TX > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can remember my grandmother adding water and salt, but I don't remember how much. She would check it everyday, until it was just so-so. Then she would can it in fruit jars. I know she done a lot of canning in the spring, with a pressure cooker on her wood cook stove(back in those days). Even her peaches, she would cut them up and cook them, and then can them. Everything was better back in those "Days". Frances From: m m <alabamanonna@webtv.net> Date: 2007/05/30 Wed AM 09:08:36 CDT To: tncannon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Stories My mother in law was the only one that knew how to make the Kraut,I was just there to help.I do not remember how much salt there was but remember it was alot.Best of my memory tells me it was only water,alot of salt & Cabage.I will call her sister,She still makes Kraut.As to the Buttermilk ,I remember my mother in law just letting cow milk set out untill it clabbered.YUCK I don't like it to drink but like it in bread.Now she used to buy powered milk when she could not get cow milk.Same thing,Mix it up and let it sit out and clabber. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to TNCANNON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My mother in law was the only one that knew how to make the Kraut,I was just there to help.I do not remember how much salt there was but remember it was alot.Best of my memory tells me it was only water,alot of salt & Cabage.I will call her sister,She still makes Kraut.As to the Buttermilk ,I remember my mother in law just letting cow milk set out untill it clabbered.YUCK I don't like it to drink but like it in bread.Now she used to buy powered milk when she could not get cow milk.Same thing,Mix it up and let it sit out and clabber.