Thanks for looking for it. There has to be an old picture somewhere taken in the early 1900's. I just started to look. All my family live in Woodbury and I live in M'Boro. So I quess I can just put out feelers to all my family members. to ask every one they know. My sister works at the nursing home there in Woodbury and my brother in law was Mayor in Woodbury. The state named the bridge at the blinking light on the 4 lane to M'Boro for my dad Jesse B Rogers He died in 1991, he lived in Burt. He is buried at Cherry Cem. thanks Jess ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jess Lewis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Found Cemetery [cleanup] > > I thought I had a picture of the Todd Cemetery along the Burt-Bergen Rd., > but I can't seem to locate, right now. I recall a few marked stones, and > many, many plain concrete blank markers, but no "House Type" grave houses, > a few years ago. > > Here is a pic. of a beautiful old tombstone in the Coldwater Cemetery in > Cannon Co..... > http://bellsouthpwp.net/C/a/CanCofHist/coldwater3.jpg > > Jess > > > ==== TNCANNON Mailing List ==== > Post or search Cannon Co. area Genealogical Queries at... > http://www.bellsouthpwp.net/C/a/CanCofHist/cannon/canqry.htm > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >
I thought I had a picture of the Todd Cemetery along the Burt-Bergen Rd., but I can't seem to locate, right now. I recall a few marked stones, and many, many plain concrete blank markers, but no "House Type" grave houses, a few years ago. Here is a pic. of a beautiful old tombstone in the Coldwater Cemetery in Cannon Co..... http://bellsouthpwp.net/C/a/CanCofHist/coldwater3.jpg Jess
Thank you ----- Original Message ----- From: "m m" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Todd Cem >I will try to forward it tomorrow, > > > > > ==== TNCANNON Mailing List ==== > Post or search Cannon Co. area Genealogical Queries at... > http://www.bellsouthpwp.net/C/a/CanCofHist/cannon/canqry.htm > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >
When I was ranting and raving about cemeteries last night, I said the "Craddock" Cemetery, when I was actually talking about the Coldwater Cemetery, along the Stones River Road, a few miles east of Woodbury. It is the one with livestock trails and brambles all through it. My mistake. What is the problem with the Craddock Cemetery, located a 1.5 miles W. of highway 53, along Stringtown Rd. and near the Dekalb Co. line? It is somewhat difficult to find, being on a high and difficult hill, above the road. It is marked on the TOPO map and the Cannon Co. map. It is in a small woods and isn't fenced, but when I was last there, the adjacent field was a hay field and not used for livestock. I found 27 identified grave stones, some more field stones but no evidence of livestock damage. Maybe a few groundhog dens and deer bedding places, but that's to be expected, down on the farm. The land owner was pleasant and helpful, even showing us the best way to get up there. They let us drive up the lane and climb the hill (in a SUV), but I then walked across the field. Other than 25 tiny ticks that my wife later pulled off me, it wasn't a bad trip. I don't know what could be done to improve this ancient cemetery, it being in a fairly remote area. Few local neighbors and the last marked burial was in 1897 (1st marked burial was in 1840) I have never seen any flowers on graves, so most anyone who cared has probably moved on, long ago. In my opinion, the "remoteness" is what has protected this cemetery from vandalism and "kid parking", for all these years. I kinda liked the little hillside. I'll bet the dogwoods and redbuds are blooming there, right now. Call me selfish, but I'm not sure but what "excessive exposure to the general public" might be bad for this particular cemetery. Jess Lewis
I will try to forward it tomorrow,
thanks, do you have the internet address of the site? ----- Original Message ----- From: "m m" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Todd Cem >I don't know if anyone has told you but my friend Kim has set up a site > on Rootsweb I believe for people to send pictures of headstones,I think > it is great because I have family buried in different states & would > never > be able to get a picture of the graves,This also > preserves the headstones > > > > > ==== TNCANNON Mailing List ==== > Several people subscribe and unsubscribe from the list each month. > You are encouraged to resubmit your queries once or twice per year > to reach new listmembers. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >
I don't know if anyone has told you but my friend Kim has set up a site on Rootsweb I believe for people to send pictures of headstones,I think it is great because I have family buried in different states & would never be able to get a picture of the graves,This also preserves the headstones
Does anyone have an old picture of the Todd cemetery across from Joe Frank Millers house on the Burgen Rd? There was at one time little log houses over some of the graves. Those old graves were some of my family. John Rogers and wife Milly Via Rogers. He died about 1857 Any info would be great Jesse B Rogers Jr
Looking for any info on Rogers in Woodbury in early 1800's thanks Jess Rogers
Hi. I don't post much on here, but I have personal experience with this matter, so I will share what worked for me and my family. My family cem is in IL, and we rallied a group of people from the area that were related to my kin, and we get together on Memorial day weekend and do repairs and cleaning. Please keep in mind, I don't live in the area anymore, but have met a whole slew of folks on the net doing my research. I was amazed at the number of folks that were willing to come out and do a bit, nearly everybody has somebody in their group that is handy, to some degree or another. It's not perfect, but it is cared for. The first time we went we also documented everything with a camera, just so we'd have something to refer to later. I know it sounds simple, and pretty unsophisticated, but we figured that no one else seemed to care too much, but we did. The end result is pretty good, this year we will have more folks than ever showing up, and people in the area have volunteered to go out into the boonies and mow a few times a year as well. It really seemed like once folks knew somebody cared, they did, too. Just an idea.Best of luck to you, can't wait until I can get to Cannon Co and see where my Mom's people started out. Angie BJ Martindale <[email protected]> wrote: Is there a possiblility of forming a Cannon County Cemetery Restoration Association? For the purpose of organizing cleanup, and identifying people that could be hired to do the jobs too tough for laymen? When the Patton Cemetery was looking for someone to hire, we just could not identify people to do it - not at any price. As an organization maybe we could interest more schools, boy scouts, church groups, etc, in preserving their heritage. I don't live there so am not one to take on the leadership, but certainly the Patton group would support and contribute to such a group. BJ Patton Martindale 425-861-1981 [email protected] ==== TNCANNON Mailing List ==== Stop by & visit the Cannon Co. Genealogy and History website at... http://www.tngenweb.org/cannon/ ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx
Merideth, In researching the descendants of John Morgan for a recently published book Our Morgan Family, I found some ot the information you are looking for. As you mention Florence's parents were Sampson B. Travis and Minerva Emiline Hays (Hayes). Sampson's parents were Daniel Travis and Margaret Porterfield. The 1850 Cannon County census has Travis, D. 31, Margaret 26, S. B. 4 and other persons. The 1970 census has Travis Daniel 47, no wife, Sampson 12 and others. Sampson married Charita Unknown before 1880. He is listed in the 1880 census as Sampson B. 25. The wife and several other persons are listed. On August 26, 1883 S. B. Travis married Nerve Hayes. The parents of Minerva Emiline Hayes were Alexander Hayes and Sarah Morgan. Sarah's parents were John Allen Morgan and Sylvia Barrett. John Allen Morgan's parents were Lydia Morgan and Unknown. Lydia,s parents were John Morgan and Elizabeth Unknown. Sylvia Barrett's parents were Ward Barrett and Charity Mears. I hope this helps some.----- Original Message ----- From: "Meri Allen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:32 PM Subject: [TNCANNON] searching for info on Allen and Travis >I am searching for info on John Ervin Allen and Florence Travis. I have a >birth for John as being 1882 (this is on his grave marker) and death as >1952 (grave marker). For Florence I have B:29 Oct 1884 D: 1 Sep 1949 ( I >got the years from the grave marker and the day and month from family). >Here is part of my dilema. I found a 1930 census that has them listed with >their children in Cannon Co. so I know it has to be them but their birth >years are listed as being three years later. Why would that be and who >should I trust for this info for record keeping purposes? I can not seem to >find either of these people in a census with their parents. I have the >names of Florence's parents as Sampson B. Travis and Minerva Emiline Hays. >That is as far back as I have gotten but now I am all messed up over the >dates. As far as I know the Allens and Travis' have been in Cannon for >quite awhile. > > Any info or suggestions would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Merideth K. Allen > > > --------------------------------- > Blab-away for as little as 1ยข/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! > Messenger with Voice. > > > ==== TNCANNON Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Cannon Co. list, send mail to.. > [email protected] ,with subscribe or unsubscribe > in the subject line. NOTHING ELSE. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >
Is there a possiblility of forming a Cannon County Cemetery Restoration Association? For the purpose of organizing cleanup, and identifying people that could be hired to do the jobs too tough for laymen? When the Patton Cemetery was looking for someone to hire, we just could not identify people to do it - not at any price. As an organization maybe we could interest more schools, boy scouts, church groups, etc, in preserving their heritage. I don't live there so am not one to take on the leadership, but certainly the Patton group would support and contribute to such a group. BJ Patton Martindale 425-861-1981 [email protected]
Connie and Don, In my opinion, the ultimate responsibility for cleaning up and maintaining old cemeteries, lies with those who have loved ones buried there. I have certainly cleaned my share, with and without my family being buried there. Regardless of what laws and responsibilities may be on the books, most rural law enforcement people and / or district attorneys are not going to be much help. They are not usually going to get prisoners out and they are not going to cut and gravel a road into the cemetery. Most of these rural cemeteries are actually private property and are therefore not a direct public responsibility. Few have actual deeds, the families buried there have died off, children have moved away and the property has changed hands, several times. Therefore you may run into access problems, even to cross someone's land to visit them. Many have old neglected (or no) fence around them, and livestock come and go, at will. Sure, you can eventually get the local sheriff to go out, and enforce your lawful right to go over there and visit the cemetery, if you have the patience and time. Then, there is always the question of who is responsible to fence livestock out, and maintain the fence. The law says they have to keep the livestock out, but few, especially with none of their relatives buried are too keen on the idea of installing and maintaining a fence, at their expense. This is the case of the Craddock Cemetery, along the Stones River Road, a few miles east of Woodbury. It is mostly a weed and briar patch, with almost no fence and animal paths through it, in the summer. There are some neat and beautiful old stones there. I've got pictures of some of them. Some parts of Cannon Co. are still pretty wild and somewhat "untamed". I do believe that some folks grow things other than corn or beans, back up in some of those hollows. Those folks are naturally suspicious of "outsiders" who come nosing around, especially an outsider demanding that "something ought to be done". You have to be easy going and eventually earn their trust. Sometimes, you are very lucky, as B.J. Martindale and the Bradyville, Patton Cemetery Restoration Group were. They earned the trust of two local men and got them interested in helping out on the project. As she said, they have no one buried there, but have taken the cemetery (and the group) on as a project and have been a priceless asset to the group. I doubt that you are going to get much help from "The Chamber of Commerce" and not from the ladies of the DAR. Sorry folks, but it has been my experience that these people have meetings, talk a lot, and sip tea (or whatever) Few will get their hands dirty and some may even have a vested interest in getting rid of the "eyesores", so the property can be "developed". I know of at least two ancient cemeteries within the city limits of Woodbury (with some beautiful old t'stones) that are in deplorable condition, and have been for years. These are in much worse condition than the Craddock Cemetery. There was a third one in Edgefield, near the junction of Hwy 70S and Hwy.145. It was about gone, and a neighbor just took a personal interest in it and did quite a good job in cleaning and restoring it. But mother nature will be back this summer and will soon take it back, without someone's continued dedication. I have had some success with Boy Scout Troops and occasionally a middle school class with a teacher with an interest in history, taking on an old cemetery to clean it and research the people buried there. But kids today, have other interests. Computers, game boys, and soccer, to name a few. Sorry to have such a pessimistic attitude, but such has been my experiences. I don't have a good answer to the problem. That is one reason that I spend a lot of time locating and recording old cemeteries. At least there will be a record of who lived and died there, after time, the elements and new development has taken the markers away. Actually, I enjoy doing it also, but I certainly haven't made any fortune doing it :^)) That's my two cents worth. Good luck on your project and I hope you prove me wrong. Jess Lewis
That would be great!!!!! Thanks so much Connie
You were on line when they were discussing the St John cemetery Connie and I was glad you was being informed about the old cemetery since you & Eric are related to the St Johns
This is kind of off subject, but I've noticed a lot of folks dying young in the cemeteries I've been to. Especially in the early 1800's, and after some checking around I found out why. Here's a list that might help folks understand why it can be hard to find family members. There were many folks back in the day that were traveling west and with them they ran into a lot of sickness. Hope it's useful to some of you. Bobby Lykins Epidemics of the US 1702 Yellow Fever US*NY 1702 Scarlet Fever US Boston 1706 Yellow Fever US SC 1713 Measles US Boston 1721 Smallpox US Boston 1723 Influenza WW 1723 Famine UK*7 years poor harvests & epidemics 1728 Yellow Fever US SC 1729 MeaslesUSBoston 1732 Yellow FeverUSSC 1732 Influenza WW* 1735 Diphtheria/scarlet fever US*4 yrs -New England 1738 Smallpox US S.Carolina 1739 Measles US*Boston 1743 Yellow FeverUS*NY 1747 MeaslesUSCT, NY, PA, SC 1759 MeaslesUSNorth America 1761 InfluenzaUS& West Indies 1763 SmallpoxUS*Boston 1772 MeaslesUS 1775 InfluenzaWW* 1783 Bilious disorderUSFatal 1788 MeaslesUSPA, NY 1789 InfluenzaUS 1792 Yellow FeverUS*7 yrs 1793 UnknownUSPA 1793 InfluenzaUSVermont, Virginia 1802 SmallpoxUSNebraska 1803 Yellow FeverUSNY 1820 "Fever"US* 1826 CholeraWW*1826-37 1826 Dengue FeverUS* and West Indies 1829 MalariaUS* 1831 CholeraUKStarted WW 1826 1831 CholeraUS* 1832 InfluenzaUS 1833 CholeraUSOhio 1834 CholeraUSNY 1837 TyphusUSPA 1837 SmallpoxUSIndians 1841 Yellow FeverUS 1847 MeaslesUSIndians 1847 Yellow FeverUSNO 1847InfluenzaWW* 1848CholeraWW* 1850Yellow FeverUS 1850InfluenzaUS* 1850Dengue FeverUS* 1851CholeraUSIL 1852Yellow FeverUSNO 1853CholeraBirmingham?This came from a UK report with the ? 1855Yellow FeverUS 1857InfluenzaWW* 1860SmallpoxUS*Pennsylvania 1861EpidemicsUS*Civil war numerous infectious diseases 1865SmallpoxUS* 1865CholeraUS 1865TyphusUS* 1868SmallpoxUS*7 yrs 1873InfluenzaUK*N. America & Europe 1873CholeraUS 1878Yellow FeverUSNO 1885TyphoidUSPA 1886Yellow FeverUSFL 1889InfluenzaWW* 1893PolioUS1st known outbreak 1900PlagueUS* 1901SmallpoxUS* 1907PolioUS*9 yrs. 1917InfluenzaWW*Worst ever 1931PolioUS 1942PolioUS11 yrs * - means the epidemic is spread over more than one year.
> Contact the Chamber of Commerce and ask them who to notify about cleanning up an old cemetery. Sometimes the DAR will clean the cemeteries. Good luck. Connie > From: DON MARKUM <[email protected]> > Date: 2006/04/12 Wed PM 08:05:47 GST > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [TNCANNON] Found Cemetery > > I have a question about cemetaries that have grown up . Can anything be done about them . > I have a gg grandfather and wife and his mother buried at Craddock cemetary, it is badly over grown.lot of tombstones are broken or lieing on ground. > Maybe Jess Lewis can answer this question. I would like to see it in a better state of repair. What can be done ? > > > > --------------------------------- > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. > > > ==== TNCANNON Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Cannon Co. list, send mail to.. > [email protected] ,with subscribe or unsubscribe > in the subject line. NOTHING ELSE. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > In God we Trust
What are we talking about? Please refresh me. Thanks Connie > > From: [email protected] (m m) > Date: 2006/04/12 Wed PM 01:35:18 GST > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [TNCANNON] Found Cemetery > > Connie glad you were on line and saw the post,.I forwarded the post to > Eric when I saw it > > > > > ==== TNCANNON Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Cannon Co. list, send mail to.. > [email protected] ,with subscribe or unsubscribe > in the subject line. NOTHING ELSE. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > In God we Trust
Hi Bobby, I am interested in the St. John's homestead and cemetery. I am related thru the John Wood family Postmaster of Woodbury, if anyone has information on them or needs info. let me know. Barbara
I recommend that you talk with Clyde Thomas who currently lives in Smithville, but who was in Bradyville until the last year or so. He and Bill Greene of Bradyville worked for several months to restore the Patton Cemetery from a deplorable state. I can tell you that they did an incredible job of removing blackberry bushes, pulling stumps, leveling, repairing broken tombstones from flat on the ground. They can tell you all the tricks they used. Clydes email address is [email protected] Clyde Thomas 489 Golf Club Drive Smithville, tn 37166 615 597-3033 Clyde gave a talk at the Cannon Cnty Historical Society some months ago about the restoration. Bill Green would probably be willing to show the cemetery to you adn tell you about it. He is at 5765 Bradyville Road Bradyville, TN 37026 615-765-5616 Neither of these two gentleman were related to the people buried in the Patton Cemetery, they generously did the job because it needed to be done and no one else could be found to do it. The Patton Family is eternally (no pun intended) to them for their work. Jess Lewis has seen the result - phenomenal! BJ Patton Martindale On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 15:05:47 -0700 (PDT) DON MARKUM <[email protected]> writes: > I have a question about cemetaries that have grown up . Can anything > be done about them . > I have a gg grandfather and wife and his mother buried at Craddock > cemetary, it is badly over grown.lot of tombstones are broken or > lieing on ground. > Maybe Jess Lewis can answer this question. I would like to see it > in a better state of repair. What can be done ? > > > > --------------------------------- > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC > and save big. > > > ==== TNCANNON Mailing List ==== > To subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Cannon Co. list, send mail > to.. > [email protected] ,with subscribe or unsubscribe > in the subject line. NOTHING ELSE. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > BJ Martindale 425-861-1981 [email protected]