The Normans, Clingans, Cowans and Cobbs lived just North of Cleveland Tennessee in the mid 1800's, along a ridge now known as Clinging Ridge (it was originally Clingan Ridge). My family the Normans moved from Cleveland to Oklahoma around 1870 as did some of the Cobbs, Cowans and Clingans to settle on Cherokee Indian land (they were all related by marriage). In the Northern part of Cleveland, Tennessee there is a "Clinging Ridge Road" as well as a "Norman Chapel Road" that is nearby the ridge. Does anyone have a clue as to how "Norman Chapel Road" came by its name? Danny Williams adworld@ionet.net

Hi everyone, Can anyone tell me where exactly Julian Cemetery, near Cleveland, TN. is located? I just recently learned my Grandmother Sarah CRANE THOMAS, born abt. 1897 died 22 June 1926, is buried in this cemetery. Is there anyone that can look up the Cemetery's address for me? I would like to obtain information about where her grave is specifically located and whether she is buried by maybe her mom and dad CRANE or maybe other THOMAS family members. Sarah died at the age of 30 and my dad remembered so little of his mom, as he was only 2-1/2 yrs. old when she died. Is there anyone that lives near the cemetery that could take a picture of her tombstone, if there is one? I would reimburse for the film, picture. Appreciate any assist so much. Barb (Thomas) Fitzmaurice - In Michigan 10225 Dice Rd. Freeland, MI 48623 BLFITZMA@prodigy.net

Hello, My husbands great-grandfather was a Baptist minister in Turkey Hollow. I discovered today that is was 6 to 8 miles outside Chattanooga, Tennessee. (They came to Texas abt 1894). Does anyone know who has the records from that church that might shed some light on this line. John R. McDowell born abt 1850 either TN or NC. married Martha L. Collins abt 1867 Bradley County, TN. Would appreciate any information of him. Thank you and have a good week Elaine McDowell Sponsor of McDowell list. to subscribe http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/mcdowell to post a message to the list mcdowell@onelist.com Bob and Elaine McDowell Amarillo, Texas

Anyone researching the Pardue family of Bradley Co. John Pardue, born in McMinn Co. about 1873 died age 42 in 1915. John's father was L. A. Pardue and mother Palina Loyd. I believe John Pardue was married to Adda Banks, daughter of John J. and Minerva Moreland Banks. Marcene

Hi, I am looking for Jake Jackson SANSOM m. Otsie Fannie CAMPBELL They d. in Hamilton Co,Tn.,but had ties to Bradley Co.Otsie d.1950s. dau.,Casey SANSOM,m. James O. Moore.Casey d. 1973, in Chattanooga. Casey's children b. Horry, S.C. Regards, Pat Koger

The 1840 census shows my great grandfather Allen Edgemon living in Bradley, TN, with his wife and children. His wife was Mahala Webb who was born in Tennessee. I have been unable to find who her parents were. She is said to have been part Cherokee Indian, and they were living in the south part of the county near Red Clay. About 1848 they moved to Catoosa County, Georgia. She could have been from Meigs, White, Rhone, or Rhea Counties as well as from Bradley. Would appreciate any help or suggestions on Mahala's parents and siblings. JWH. - ------------------------------ AUDREY and JWHENSON 2305 Laurelton Creek Lane Chattanooga, Tennessee USA 37421 - ------------------------------ 423-892-3567 (For FAX use same number; make voice contact before faxing) - ------------------------------ jwhenson@southern.edu - ------------------------------ Check out our HomePage http://home.chattanooga.net/~henson3 - ------------------------------

Hi Everyone, I am new to the list and I am seeking information on Tandy W. Long & Sarah Ellen Daniels who lived in Bradley Co. TN. Tandy had brothers Thomas S.,Isham & Samuel and sisters Mary & Margaret. I believe their parents were George & Sarah Slover Long and maybe from Polk county TN. Tandy died the 28th. of Feb 1868 in Bradley Co. and Thomas died the 13th. of Sep 1903 in Hancock Co. IL, what happened to the other children? Mary may have married Henry Sanford and Margaret married George Hawkins, Isham married Elizabeth Wateas and Samuel married Ruth or Margaret Reed. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Roberta Summers at KSum555@aol.com

Elihu McNeese b. 1820 and his wife Rebecca b. 1825 moved from Greene Co, TN to Bradley Co. between 1860 and 1870. I am looking for data on the descendents of Elihu. I have found that a Elihue McNeese m. Alsa Nelson on March 19, 1865 in Bradley Co, TN. Is this the same Elihu and if so what happened to Rebecca, did she die or did they divorce. Did Ehihue and Alsa have any children. The data I have on them is listed below. I have a lot of data on Elhiu's and Rebecca's ancestors. Any help would be appreciated. Bill McNeese bill@mcneese.com http://mcneese.com ........................... Descendants of Elihu McNeese: Generation No. 1 1. ELIHU MCNEESE was born 1820 in Greene County, Tennessee. He married REBECCA MCNEESE September 09, 1840 in Greene County, Tennessee, daughter of JONAS MCNEES and ELIZABETH PHILLIPS. Notes for ELIHU MCNEESE: In 1860 He was listed as a farmer in the Laurel Gap area of Greene County, TN with land of $2,100 and property of $250. He moved to Bradley County before 1870. Children of ELIHU MCNEESE and REBECCA MCNEESE are: i. WILLIAM RILEY6 MCNEESE, b. 1841, Greene County, Tennessee. ii. SUSAN MCNEESE, b. 1844, Greene County, Tennessee. iii. CHARITY MCNEESE, b. 1846, Greene County, Tennessee; m. CHARLES WILLIAMS, November 06, 1865, Bradley Co, TN. iv. ANDREW J MCNEESE, b. 1848, Greene County, Tennessee. v. MARY C MCNEESE, b. 1850, Greene County, Tennessee. Notes for MARY C MCNEESE: In 1870 Mary is listed as a Housekeeper for Elizabeth Davis. vi. MALINDA MCNEESE, b. 1852, Greene County, Tennessee. vii. REBECCA MCNEESE, b. 1856, Greene County, Tennessee. viii. SARAH C MCNEESE, b. 1859, Greene County, Tennessee. ix. JOHN C MCNEESE, b. 1860, Greene County, Tennessee.

Hello, For those who interested in the surname McDowell, MacDowell, McDowel and all other spellings anytime, any where; I invite you to join the list. Have a good week. Sponsor of McDowell list. to subscribe http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/mcdowell to post a message to the list mcdowell@onelist.com Bob and Elaine McDowell Amarillo, Texas

Hi all. Trying to sort out which THOMAS's are direct line. And is anyone working on WELCH/WELSH Line, Sarah Elizabeth WELCH b 1854 TN,, parents Charles and Manerva DAVIS WELSH. Or Crane, Sarah CRANE b. abt. 1897 mar. abt 1919-1921 to James Vance Thomas b.1884 Chattanooga area. Father T.N. CRANE Mother C. Cora Bayon or Bayna? Seeking information about area and family in Bradley Co. Wilson THOMAS b.abt.1817 unknown who his "first wife was", Sarah name of next wife. In 1850 census index there are many of my Thomas names, but no ages or dob's are listed. See below. Is there an 1850 or 1860 that can give me ages and dates? And show heads of households? Need Wilson's parents. 1880 Bradley Co. Census: Dist 9 Wilson (w) (M) 63 yrs (b.abt 1817) Sarah wife 44 b. TN Amanuel son 14 born in TN {I believe the first two, maybe all three children were by Wilson's Margarett dtr 12 born in TN first wife.) Malinda dtr 7 born in TN Hugh son 2 born in TN. 1850 census index for Bradley Co. May 26, 1998 1850 BRADLEY CO. CENSUS INDEX {Wilson's father could be Jacob or William?} THOMAS FAMILIES {I am not sure what the asterisk * means or the < by some of the names. Should the sub divisions be included, pg.’s 219, 220 with 216, 217, 218?} Dist. 7, pg. 216 Margaret E. < {Were pages 216 through pages 218 all the same family?} Dist. 7, pg. 217 Dist. 7, pg. 218 Nancy Nancy Robert < Susan T. Tresa Vanee William William Wilson < Adam < Jacob David James A. Joel W. John John A. Lydda Margaret Mary J. Dist. Cleveland, pg. 204 Dist. 11, pg. 260 Dist. 11, pg. 258 Richard Marisa Charles E.< Emeline C. Polly Jane Sarah Julie B. < Susan Dist. 11, pg. 259 Laura Millie Erby William William< Cassie Liza Margaret E. 1850 BRADLEY CO. CENSUS INDEX THOMAS FAMILY Dist 9, pg. 23 Malisa Marthena < Isabella 26th Sub Division pg. 147 Sarah Ann 26th Sub Division pg. 219 Adam 26th Sub Division pg. 220 Jacob John A. 26th Sub Division pg. 227 Eliza 26th Sub Division pg. 233 Enoch Wilson THOMAS b. abt 1817 died after 1880. (Living in Bradley Co. 1880 Census.) Sarah Elizabeth Welch THOMAS b.1854 d. 1925 North Chattanooga area. Sarah Crane THOMAS died 1926 Red Barn area. John Thompson THOMAS died 30 Dec 1931 North Chattanooga area. (May once had been James Co.?) Any assist gratefully appreciated. Hope this is not too confusing even though I am really confused! Barb (Thomas) Fitzmaurice - Michigan BLFITZMA@prodigy.net

PRESS RELEASE --------------------------- June 4-- Historical Society Workshop Features Genealogy Advice from Noted Experts The East Tennessee Historical Society's 1998 genealogy workshop will feature a full day's worth of activities and lessons from some of the region's noted genealogy experts. The workshop will be held Saturday, June 20, 1998, on the campus of the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. Featured speakers at the workshop will include Dr. George K. Schweitzer, an expert in military genealogy, genealogical resources, and genealogical education. Dr. Schweitzer is an Alumni Distinguished Professor of Chemistry at the University of Tennessee and is the author of a popular series of research guides for genealogical research in a variety of U.S. states. In addition, Dr. Schweitzer has authored research guides for assistance in researching military records, German genealogy and Scots-Irish genealogy. Another noted expert to offer advice at the workshop will be Mary McCampbell Bell, a native of Knoxville and one of the founding members of the Genealogical Speakers Guild. Bell specializes in Southern research methodology, especially colonial Virginia. She was a faculty member of the National Institute on Genealogy and Historical Research. In 1988, she received the National Genealogical Society's Award of Merit. In addition to mini-workshops from Dr. Schweitzer and Mary McCampbell Bell, the Saturday workshop will include presentations from Steve Cotham, head of the McClung Historical Collection of the Knox County Public Library System. Pre-registration for the workshop is required. Contact the East Tennessee Historical Society at 423-544-5732 or via e-mail at ETHS@netstarcomm.net for registration materials and registration fee information. A listing of mini-workshop topics and registration information can also be found on the ETHS web pages at http://www.korrnet.org/eths/calendar.htm#gene ### Shane S. Rhyne, Public Relations Coordinator East Tennessee Historical Society P.O. Box 1629, Knoxville TN 37901-1629 ETHS@netstarcomm.net http://www.korrnet.org/eths/ ***Please note ETHS cannot respond to online requests for research assistance at this time. For a listing of professional researchers in this area, send a stamped, self-addressed envelope to ETHS at the address in the signature above.***

Expanding on my earlier post to the list re: THOMAS COCKEY DEYE FORD and BENJAMIN FRANKLIN FORD. Forgot to give dates. ELIZABETH FORD daughter of BENJAMIN FRANKLIN FORD and niece of THOMAS COCKEY DEYE FORD (of Bradley Co.) married Benjamin Franklin Jones (how confusing!!). BF Jones was born in 1822 in TN either Rhea or Hamilton Co. Guessing from the date of birth of BF Jones' father (John) which was 1792 I would have to say that BENJAMIN FRANKLIN FORD had to be born about the same time frame. BF FORD was said to have been born in Maryland, prob. Baltimore Co. and was dead by 1860 in Hamilton Co., TN. He and his first wife, RACHEL (mother of ELIZABETH and her sister RACHEL) reportedly floated down the river from Knoxville to Red Bank, TN. Their home in Red Bank was where Shoney's is now. His 2nd wife was PENSICOLA HAWLEY, a widow. Kathi Jones Hudson khudson@softspikes.com

Does anyone have a lead on this man? He's the brother of BENJAMIN FRANKLIN FORD of Hamilton Co. (Red Bank area). They came to Tennessee from Maryland. Kathi Jones Hudson khudson@softspikes.com

JohnJ. Banks married to Minerva Moreland Lived in Cleveland Bradley Co. in the 1870s and -1914. Children were: Joseph married Mary and had Lizzis M. born March 1880. He was a brickmason and died Aug1900 in Birmingham Ala. Retrned to Cleveland for interrment. Columbus lived in Woodlawn, suburb, of Birmingham. Was living there in 1914. John T born about 1866 Adolphus parker born about 1868 died age 43 in Woodlawn Ala on Feb 1914. Adda born 1873 married John Pardue and lived in Cleveland. Does anyone know about the Pardue family. Marcene

For reunion info on the Womack families in TN..go here: http://members.aol.com/womacknet/reunions.html <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/womacknet/reunions.html">Womack Family Reunions</A> Connie

Hi Fellow researchers, Just wanted to let you know, the McMinn County, Tn page now has a Reunions page.. Hope this helps some of you..Also, the Womack/Womac family has a reunion in McMinn the second Sunday of June.. In McMinn, at the Womac Cemetery in McMinn.. Go Here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnmcminn/Decorations-Reunions.htm Connie

Someone on another list thought that family scandals of ancestors might be a good thing to post..So, here is (one) of mine.. Vol. LXVI No. 21 The Cleveland Banner Thursday, October 2, 1919 Front Page Headlines: Doctor Womack Dies of Gun Wounds Received From Wm. A. Slack and Son The case of the State vs William A. Slack, and his son, Herb Slack, charged with killing Dr. Riley B. Womack in a three-cornered shooting afray in the first precinct of this county last Friday has created considerable interest, filling the Circuit Court Room here at the preliminary trial before Esq. A. H. Kerr, assisted by Esq. S. L. Higdon as Associate Justice. The State is represented by H. M. Candler and Frank Boyd of Athens and the defense by B.B.C. Witt and John Shamblin of the local bar. The peculiar longevity of Dr. Womack after the shooting was phenomenal, the attending Doctor considering him dying two hours after the shots entered his body, and the Knoxville papers received such report the next morning, attendants and neighbors reported him " surely dead by this time" at 8 o'clock Saturday morning, but he rallied and talked freely and rationally apparently for some time before noon on Saturday and did not die until Sunday morning between sun-up and 8 o'clock. The trial set for Monday was postponed for the funeral of Dr. Womack, which occurred near noon at the Womack Cemetery, three miles east of Calhoun, on Monday. States Witness, Jerry Cronan, testified that just after Doctor Womack said, "We will let the law settle who owns the slabs," a shot was fired, rattling against the crib walls just back of Dr. Womack, then that both Womack and Slack stepped out into his view, and two shots were exchanged, the team running from Slack toward Womack, being turned back at the second shots, and that Slack appeared to be dodging behind the mules to keep from being shot. Cronan did not know the number of shots, but others said four or five, and Herbert Slack got the empty gun and loaded it. Cronan said that the young Slack, Herbert, shot Doctor Womack once in the arm with a pistol, after emptying the shotgun into him, after having loaded it behind the sawdust pile, and that Dr. Womack was looking toward the older Slack when Cronan told him to watch out, and Herbert Slack fired from the other side of the sawdust pile, but out in full view of the Doctor had he been looking that way. Herbert Slack had five small shot grazing him, indicating that he was either shot at before going behind the sawdust pile, or that he was close enough to his father for some of the shot to hit him. Dorcas Prater, negro wash woman at the Slack home when Wm. Slack came for the gun, was the amusing witness, remembering only that he had said "Wasn't going to be run over," and that she said to him "The War is over, you ought to be good," and he replied, "I am trying to be as good as I can", and then she finished her washing and went home. John Harrison of Harrison Bros. testified to selling to Herbert Slack about 1:30 the day of the shooting, four cartridges of No. 4 buckshot, (some smaller than a .22 bullet), and that Slack did not say what they were for, and that he had nothing unusual in his attitude. W. F. Russell, owner of the saw set, timber, and slabs, testified substantially that after trading Slack some oak timber and the slabs off of them, he gave the slabs in question toMr. Slack. That the timber was bought from Daniel Calhoun when he owned the land, that Dr. Womack bought the land and moved on to it about six or eight months ago, that the saw set was finished about two weeks ago, and that a month was in the contract in which to move the lumber form the yard after the mill finished. Mrs. Womack, young widow of Dr. Womack who was killed, testified freely regardless of which side the testimony favored apparently. She said Dr. Womack had the morning of the difficulty bought lumber for part of a house pattern from Wm. Slack on the mill yard. That the Doctor told Slack he wanted part of the slabs, that Slack told him he wanted four loads, that Doctor said that would take all of them. That Slack came back for second load and was asked by teh Doctor not to come back after any more, that next time the Doctor took his gun down there and ordered them not to come back any more, that he would shoot them, and Slack said, "If it takes a gun to settle it, Herbert get your gun and I'll get mine," and the Doctor said, "We can settle it, leave the boy out." When the two Slacks brought the gun and a pistol along with the wagon, and were starting to load slabs, the Doctor was in the road with his gun, and pistol, when Wm. Slack told him to stay out of the mill yard. Thereupon, the Doctor said, "I can shoot from the road", and Slack shot the first shot, the shot rattling against the crib behnd the Doctor, then the Doctor shot and four or five shots were fired. That Herbert Slack shot at the Doctor after getting behind the sawdust pile to reload it, that the Doctor turned and shot at Herbert Slack then. That the Doctor's pistol had three empty cylinders afterward, and one not shot. She gave the Doctor's age at 72, while she is apparently about half as old. Another witness unloading hay in the barn loft for Cronan substantiated Cronan's evidence as to what was said, but could not see what occurred. Cronan's evidence as to what was said was not as full as Mrs. Womack's nor as freely given, he not remembering he said all that was said, nor how may shots were fired. Evidence as a whole showed five by Womack, and four or more by the two Slacks, the younger Slack's shots after having been hit. The Elder Slack, with shots in both arms, scattered over his berast, and face and piled up in left shoulder, and his son, Herbert, with five surface wounds form shotgun, were accompanied at the trial by their families,while two brothers of the deceased Dr. Womack aided in the prosecution. The Court bound both defendants over to Circuit Court in a bond of $10,000 each, which was readily made, being signed by B. P. Rollins, W. F. Scarbrough, J. W. Burris, Albert Crumley and W. F. Russell, among them worth probably five times the amount. The medical attendants evidence, Dr. Nichols first, showed that the charge of shot into the stomach of Esq.Womack gave him no chance of recovery. The arm being shot badly, indicated that part of the shotgun charge hit it before he turned around and that the pistol shot then struck inside left arm. while the Doctor was shooting at the younger Slack. (Riley B. Womack was shot Friday, September 26, 1919, and he died Sunday, September 28th and was buried Monday the 29th, 1919.) Buried at Womac Cemetery in McMinn Co., Tn.

Some SE Tn surnames here...

Please note: A typographical error was included in yesterday's press release about the ETHS Genealogical Workshop. The correct date for the workshop is Saturday, May **23**, NOT Saturday, May 25, as originally announced. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. A corrected press release follows-- The East Tennessee Historical Society is offering a free genealogy workshop on Saturday, May 25, at the historical society's headquarters in downtown Knoxville. The workshop will be led by Cherel Henderson, associate director of ETHs and the historical society's director for the First Families of Tennessee heritage project, from 10 am until noon at the East Tennessee Historical Center (Old Custom House, 600 Market Street). Admission to the workshop is free. The workshop will provide assistance to help genealogists complete the First Families of Tennessee application and locate sources for proof of membership eligibility in the historical society's First Families of Tennessee heritage project. Membership in First Families of Tennessee is open to anyone who can prove descent from an ancestor who was in Tennessee by the time of statehood in 1796. Established in 1993 as a Tennessee Bicentennial heritage project of the East Tennessee Historical Society, the project now has more than 12,000 members representing all fifty states and eight foreign nations. Additional information about ETHS and its workshops can be found on the ETHS web pages at http://www.korrnet.org/eths/ Sincerely, Shane S. Rhyne, Public Relations Coordinator East Tennessee Historical Society P.O. Box 1629, Knoxville TN 37901-1629 ETHS@netstarcomm.net http://www.korrnet.org/eths/ ***Please note ETHS cannot respond to online requests for research assistance at this time. For a listing of professional researchers in this area, send a stamped, self-addressed envelope to ETHS at the address in the signature above.***

The East Tennessee Historical Society is offering a free genealogy workshop on Saturday, May 25, at the historical society's headquarters in downtown Knoxville. The workshop will be led by Cherel Henderson, associate director of ETHs and the historical society's director for the First Families of Tennessee heritage project, from 10 am until noon at the East Tennessee Historical Center (Old Custom House, 600 Market Street). Admission to the workshop is free. The workshop will provide assistance to help genealogists complete the First Families of Tennessee application and locate sources for proof of membership eligibility in the historical society's First Families of Tennessee heritage project. Membership in First Families of Tennessee is open to anyone who can prove descent from an ancestor who was in Tennessee by the time of statehood in 1796. Established in 1993 as a Tennessee Bicentennial heritage project of the East Tennessee Historical Society, the project now has more than 12,000 members representing all fifty states and eight foreign nations. Additional information about ETHS and its workshops can be found on the ETHS web pages at http://www.korrnet.org/eths/ Sincerely, Shane S. Rhyne, Public Relations Coordinator East Tennessee Historical Society P.O. Box 1629, Knoxville TN 37901-1629 ETHS@netstarcomm.net http://www.korrnet.org/eths/ ***Please note ETHS cannot respond to online requests for research assistance at this time. For a listing of professional researchers in this area, send a stamped, self-addressed envelope to ETHS at the address in the signature above.***