I also have waited for the list owner to step in. The original posting was not appropriate. I did look at the source page and its links and while I have lived all my life in the south, I have no desire to create a new southern nation as advocated by those linked to the original source page. My next message is to unsubscribe. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Momepa@aol.com> To: <TNBLOUNT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 10:08 AM Subject: Listowner where are you... > I am very disappointed that this has become a political discussion list for > extremely controversial issues often by persons making unpleasant > accusations. I was not looking for controversy but it is being forcefed to > everyone on the TNBLOUNT list--I just wanted to share and obtain much needed > genealogic information but this irritation has diven me to unsubscribe. > > In a message dated 8/18/99 5:36:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcteer@iname.com > writes: > > << ubj: Re: TNBLOUNT-D Digest V99 #143 > Date: 8/18/99 5:36:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: mcteer@iname.com (McTeer) > To: TNBLOUNT-L@rootsweb.com > > First point, I said it sounded like a front for the "KKK" not neo-Nazis > ("Aryan", not that there is a difference in the long run). I have been told > the Nathan Bedford Forrest was one of the founders of the Ku Klux Klan > (KKK) and reportedly the first Imperial Wizard (1867). The remark was not > directed at you personally, for I do not know your reasons for posting it. > If you took it personally, that is on you. > > I went to the website and found the following in the FAQ section: > > "Why should we respond to the U.S. census at all; isn't the census for U.S. > citizens and aren't we an occupied country?" > If the citizens of the United States were to all take the time to thoroughly > study our Constitution, the writings of the founding fathers and delve > deeply into the causes for the War for Southern Independence, they would > realize that the Northern states grossly violated the Constitution and > illegally invaded and occupied the Confederate States of America. In one > sense we are an occupied nation. Current reality says that we have to > operate within the legal boundaries that exist or face total exclusion from > being considered for anything. If we were to refuse to take part in the > census, we would risk existing only for the purpose of providing tax dollars > for the federal government that "conquered" the South and could end up > reaping none of the benefits of living under the current political > structure. > Southerners need to be engaged politically and work to educate people, > Southerners and non-Southerners alike, on the full history of the United > States and the South. We need to take this opportunity and make a > statement. This will help motivate those Southerners who don't hear about > Southerner 2000 in time for the census and get them engaged in rediscovering > who they really are. > > > They would appear to be still fighting the Civil War. Before jumping on any > band wagon, one should examine whose wagon it is. It would APPEAR that this > group's meaning of "Southern" is CSA. > > Second point, this APPEARS to be a 'political' issue, not genealogical. > This 'thread' should have been ended as soon as it started. I do not pay a > great deal of attention to these groups, but I don't recall much 'firing up > the troops' to write their Congressmen/Senators on an actual headcount vs > the estimate. > > As someone else noted, the same word or words can have far different > meanings to different people. To some people "Southern Pride" or "Heritage" > means burning crosses, lynching, rape, oppression and the denial of their > God given Constitutional rights and protections. And isn't this Tennessee? > Did not the people vote against succession only to have the governor > backdoor them into the CSA against the majority vote of the populace? > > What is really sad is that 30 years after the 'Dream" speech, many of our > children are sill not allowed to attend their local neighborhood schools. > Nothing has changed except that we have added another category (surnames) to > the color of one skin. > > H. Michael McTeer > > > > >> >