In a message dated 3/3/02 3:14:19 PM EST, wwoodward@nc.rr.com writes: << The wagon train had about 15 rules that set standards for the trip. Some of them were: 1. Allow 5 days each 100 miles. Bad days, what you can make, or stay in camp if agreed by all. Real good days, and group, makes it easy pulling 25 to 30 miles per day, if camp sites come right. 3. Recommeded -- shave your head -- Indians have no interest in bald heads. 8. Keep you politics and preaching to yourself. Let the preacher do the preaching. 12. Be courteous and help pthers 13. Do not be noisy, even with your musical instruments >> Jeesh!! What a teaser. Can you give us the rest of the rules? Please. This is fascinating to me. I always wonder (a) how people got along (same as now looks like...now loud rock music in the apt next door...wonder if there was a generational gap in music) and (b) how far did they travel each day. With regard to #3, was it recommended the women shave their heads? Would the menfolk put up with such, as..uh..I understand that letting the hair down in private moments was important back then. Could you post all the rules? Thanks in advance, Janet (Baugh) Hunter...Descendant of Michael and Elizabeth Landin Marsh (like Tim Marsh, with wife Helen Crawford).

Thank you! That was so interesting. I'm curious as to whether the women shaved their heads. I'm sure I would. ---- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Woodward" <wwoodward@nc.rr.com> To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 3:08 PM Subject: [TNBEDFOR] 1812 Wagon Train > I just ran across an article from the Summer 1975 "Ansearchin' News," a quarterly published by the Tennessee Genealogical Society. an article by Mrs. Woodrow Wilburn of Texarkana, Texas describes a wagon train that left Bell Buckle (Bedfrod County), Tennessee on april 8, 1812. The wagon train was led by a Captain John Baker and included 28 wagons and 90 people (39 men, 19 women, 42 children). They were headed for what is now Washington on the Brazos. > > The wagon train went to Fort Smith, Arkansas and then crossed the Red River east of Spanish Peak. It took199 days to get to the Big Bend of the Red River (10 miles north of Hook, Texas), and another 100 days to reach their destination. According to the article, Captain Baker made two more trips in 1814 and 1816. > > The article gives a log of the trip, with names of the men and the number of wagons and children with them. Some of the names include BAKER, MCDANIEL, ELLIOT, SMITH, WALKER, COOPER, ALLMAN. > > The wagon train had about 15 rules that set standards for the trip. Some of them were: > 1. Allow 5 days each 100 miles. Bad days, what you can make, or stay in camp if agreed by all. Real good days, and group, makes it easy pulling 25 to 30 miles per day, if camp sites come right. > 3. Recommeded -- shave your head -- Indians have no interest in bald heads. > 8. Keep you politics and preaching to yourself. Let the preacher do the preaching. > 12. Be courteous and help pthers > 13. Do not be noisy, even with your musical instruments > > I found this kost interesting and would love to hear about other wagon trains from those early days. I got a copy of the article from the Tennessee Archives people, but I assume that interlibrary loan would work as well. The article was rewritten in the Bedford County Historical Quarterly (Volume I, Number 4, 1975). > > William Woodward, > Chapel Hill, NC > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I just ran across an article from the Summer 1975 "Ansearchin' News," a quarterly published by the Tennessee Genealogical Society. an article by Mrs. Woodrow Wilburn of Texarkana, Texas describes a wagon train that left Bell Buckle (Bedfrod County), Tennessee on april 8, 1812. The wagon train was led by a Captain John Baker and included 28 wagons and 90 people (39 men, 19 women, 42 children). They were headed for what is now Washington on the Brazos. The wagon train went to Fort Smith, Arkansas and then crossed the Red River east of Spanish Peak. It took199 days to get to the Big Bend of the Red River (10 miles north of Hook, Texas), and another 100 days to reach their destination. According to the article, Captain Baker made two more trips in 1814 and 1816. The article gives a log of the trip, with names of the men and the number of wagons and children with them. Some of the names include BAKER, MCDANIEL, ELLIOT, SMITH, WALKER, COOPER, ALLMAN. The wagon train had about 15 rules that set standards for the trip. Some of them were: 1. Allow 5 days each 100 miles. Bad days, what you can make, or stay in camp if agreed by all. Real good days, and group, makes it easy pulling 25 to 30 miles per day, if camp sites come right. 3. Recommeded -- shave your head -- Indians have no interest in bald heads. 8. Keep you politics and preaching to yourself. Let the preacher do the preaching. 12. Be courteous and help pthers 13. Do not be noisy, even with your musical instruments I found this kost interesting and would love to hear about other wagon trains from those early days. I got a copy of the article from the Tennessee Archives people, but I assume that interlibrary loan would work as well. The article was rewritten in the Bedford County Historical Quarterly (Volume I, Number 4, 1975). William Woodward, Chapel Hill, NC

The list has been updated and now contains about 1040 surnames and/or researchers. The following surnames were added today: ALVIS / ALVES BRYANT, BURTON, BYROM CAMPBELL, CLAXTON, COLLINS (2) EAKIN, EWELL FROST GARRET / GARRETT, GREGG, GULLETT LANDIS / LANDISS MCCLELLAN PERRY REAVES / REEVES SAIN TODD WHITE, WILLIAMS (3), WOOD / WOODS, WRAY The URL is (just copy and paste this address into your browser): http://www.tngenweb.org/bedford/surname.htm OR try this hyperlink (sometimes it works for folks, and sometimes not): <A HREF="http://www.tngenweb.org/bedford/surname.htm">Bedford Co. Surnames and Researchers</A> Good luck to you all, Lucy Bryant Dunaway Zeier (researching in Bedford Co.: Chambers, Crutcher, Dixon, Dunaway, Galbreath, Gordon, Hall, King, McKamie/McKamy/McKemey, Rice, and Sharp)

I have been told that these surnames, McCLAIN and various spellings, DAMRON and DORRITY and various spellings, were in Bedford Co early on.........I am looking for them on the journey from North Carolina to Western Tennessee..........they stopped somewhere...........I am hoping this may be it.........happy to exchange, discuss, share or whatever on these families.............pj PS....I also have MORRISON and McCLURE from this county that I know of...........thank you .........pj

In a message dated 03/02/2002 4:06:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, D.Tooker@home.com writes: > <A HREF="mailto:D.Tooker@home.com">D.Tooker@home.com</A> Address of the Bedford Co. Historical Society: Bedford County Historical Society Mrs. George T. Parker (Dixie) P.O. Box 172 Bell Buckle, TN 37020 Email: dixiep@cafes.net Annual Dues (includes 4 printed quarteries per year - a great publication) are a bargain at $12.50. They also sell an index of all surnames (in 2 parts) from 1975-1986 and 1994-1996 ($5.00 and $2.50 respectively). Hope this helps, Lucy

Hi Everybody: I have been reading recent emails about folks moving to/from Bedford Co. to other parts (Pope Co. IL most recently). I would like to take this opportunity to encourage you all to check out a neat website that is called "Migrations Project". Copy and paste this URL into your browser: http://www.migrations.org/ or, if this hyperlink will work for you, just click on the following: <A HREF="http://www.migrations.org/"> Migrations Project</A> After you have checked out this very worthwhile site, you may want to consider making a contribution. Submittals can be fast and their instructions are easy to follow. Some of your "disappearing relatives" mysteries could be solved by folks (like yourselves) making contributions. Good luck, Lucy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/IhB.2ACI/269 Message Board Post: Can anyone please give me the e-mail address and mailing address to the Bedford County Genealogy Society. Thank you very much in advance.

Sorry about that triple posting. My computer seems to have gone bizerk. April >From: PaperHeath@aol.com >Reply-to: TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com >To: TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com >My ancestors left Bedford County, TN and went to Pope County, IL after >the "Civil War". I'm finding a lot of similar surnames in both places and >I wondered how many of you had ancestors in both places? Was this a >migration trend? > > >April >Researching in Bedford County, Harrison, Thorn, Dobbs, Pearson, Bledsoe, >Yates and Brown Researching.... HARBISON, HARP, HARRIS, HARRISON, HAWKINS, HEALEY, HEATH, HEWES, HILL, HUMPHRIES, HUTCHESON, HUTCHINSON, JENKINS, KEATOR, KING, LAMPLEY, LANCASHIRE, LUTHER, MALLORY, MARTIN, NORTH, PASTIS, PEARSON, POWELL, RAINEY, RENNIE, ROBINSON, SMITH, STRATTEN, SULLIVAN, THORN, TIGNER, TOOGOOD, VENDORS, WALKER, WHEELER, WHITEHORN, WILLIAMS, WILSON, WOLSTENCROFT, WOODS, WRIGHT, and many more. http://heycuz.cjb.net

In an effort to figure out all the Harrisons who were in Bedford County, and especially my Harrisons who lived on Sinking Creek, I have created a web site for other researchers. If you have any connections--even collateral lines that connect--to Harrisons please visit the site at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~heycuz/BEDFORD/INDEX.HTM And let me know your comments. Some other surnames involved include: BROWN, YATES, BLEDSOE, PEARSON, THORN, MOORE, BRYANT, ALEXANDER, CARPENTER, COOPER, CRAIG, CULVERHOUSE, DELK, DOBBS, DOUDE, EVANS, DENTON, DUCKWORTH, EARNHART, FARMER, GAMBILL, GREER, HOWARD, JUMPER, LATIMER, LESTER, LYNN, MCLAIN, MILLER, MULLINS, PARTAIN, PUTNAM, PYBUS, REED, RIDGEWAY, SMITH, STUART, THRONEBERRY, USELTON, WHITESELL, WILLIAMS, WHITE and more. Thanks, in advance for your input, April A cousin a day, that's all we ask! http://heycuz.cjb.net

Thank you so much for the information. I would love to have a picture. This isn't the Joel I thought it was. The David here may be a brother to my ggggf Levi or Louis Throneberry. I still have not found where Levi and wife Elenda are buried. Levi also has a son named Joel born in 1841. Thanks again. Reta On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 19:09:45 -0800 (PST) Kathryn Hopkins <kathopkins@yahoo.com> writes: > Hi Reta, > > Yes, there is a tombstone for Joel and his wife still standing. I > have a picture if you would like me to email it to you. Here is > how > it reads (yes, only one "R" in the surname): > > THRONEBERY > JOEL ALICE > 1841-1923 1857-1923 > > I have his middle initial as "N". I have his birth year as 1841 > and > his date of death as 2-JAN-1923. His wife, Alice Roberts died a > day > later on 3-JAN-1923. Now where did I get that info? > > Joel's parents are also buried in the Couch-Patton Cemetery: > > David Throneberry, Jan 1, 1815, Oct 13, 1878 > Elizabeth, wife of David, Jun 6, 1818, Oct 16, 1887 > > Elizabeth was the daughter of John Alvin Bramblett (6-FEB-1791 - > 20-NOV-1861) and Jane Couch (3-JAN-1792 - 28-DEC-1861) - they are > also buried in this cemetery. > > Let me know if you need anything else. > Kathryn > > > > > <snip> > My descendents who are buried there are Joel M Throneberry and wife > Mary. Do you know if there are headstones still standing? Thanks > again. Reta > <snip> > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

We would llike to know of any deed or land grant for thomas Drake Jr. Rev. soldier who died in Coffee or Bedford Co. about 1836. thanks Sue in Al.

Hi, thanks to everyone for the information on the cemetery. My descendents who are buried there are Joel M Throneberry and wife Mary. Do you know if there are headstones still standing? I live in Texas so it will be a couple years before I can travel to Tennessee. I don't know if there are relatives in the Keller cemetery or not. Thanks again. Reta On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:59:09 -0800 (PST) Kathryn Hopkins <kathopkins@yahoo.com> writes: > Hi Reta, > > Now this is a cemetery I know a lot about. Who are you looking > for? > > Because all the street signs are gone, the directions are something > like this: > > 1. From Wartrace, take HWY 64 towards Beech Grove > 2. Hang a right at the Fairfield crossroads > 3. When you come to a stop, turn right > 4. Go past the 3 chicken houses at the bottom of the hill and veer > to > the right > 5. Travel on close to a mile and the Couch-Patton Cemetery will be > on > your right near the top of the hill. It is between the second and > third house (closer to the third house). Be care or you'll pass it. > > There is just a small sign posted on a tree, the cemetery is in the > woods (you definitely can't see the markers from the road in srping > or summer, but since it is winter time, it might be possible). > > Now, Street directions are: > 1. From Wartrace, take HWY 64 towards Beech Grove > 2. Turn right on Clyde Cleaves Road (Fairfield crossroads) > 3. Turn right on Straight Creek Road > 4. Turn right on Kellertown Road > 5. Go about a mile, and the Cemetery will be on your right > > Now, if you have relatives in the Couch-Patton Cemetery, you > probably > have them in the Keller Cemetery as well, which is just down the > road > a bit and to the left. > > You might plan to visit them both and if you need a guide, let me > know. I can meet you at Wartrace and take you there. > > Kathryn > > <snip> > Could anyone tell me where Couch Cemetery is in Bedford Co., Tn. > Thanks Reta > <snip> > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > 1237 > >

Hi Reta, Yes, there is a tombstone for Joel and his wife still standing. I have a picture if you would like me to email it to you. Here is how it reads (yes, only one "R" in the surname): THRONEBERY JOEL ALICE 1841-1923 1857-1923 I have his middle initial as "N". I have his birth year as 1841 and his date of death as 2-JAN-1923. His wife, Alice Roberts died a day later on 3-JAN-1923. Now where did I get that info? Joel's parents are also buried in the Couch-Patton Cemetery: David Throneberry, Jan 1, 1815, Oct 13, 1878 Elizabeth, wife of David, Jun 6, 1818, Oct 16, 1887 Elizabeth was the daughter of John Alvin Bramblett (6-FEB-1791 - 20-NOV-1861) and Jane Couch (3-JAN-1792 - 28-DEC-1861) - they are also buried in this cemetery. Let me know if you need anything else. Kathryn <snip> My descendents who are buried there are Joel M Throneberry and wife Mary. Do you know if there are headstones still standing? Thanks again. Reta <snip> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: prince Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IhB.2ACI/268 Message Board Post: 1850 census lookup please ... Prince, William State : TN County : Bedford Co. Location : 24th Civil District Year : 1850 Page # : 59 ..continued on next page.... Prince, William State : TN County : Bedford Co. Location : 24th Civil District Year : 1850 Page # : 60 *** thankyou larry lstegal@yahoo.com

Couch Cemetery is located at Kellertown, East of Wartrace, TN Hope that helps some. ----- Original Message ----- From: <ackerman25@juno.com> To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:21 AM Subject: [TNBEDFOR] cemetery info > Could anyone tell me where Couch Cemetery is in Bedford Co., Tn. Thanks > Reta > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Reta, Now this is a cemetery I know a lot about. Who are you looking for? Because all the street signs are gone, the directions are something like this: 1. From Wartrace, take HWY 64 towards Beech Grove 2. Hang a right at the Fairfield crossroads 3. When you come to a stop, turn right 4. Go past the 3 chicken houses at the bottom of the hill and veer to the right 5. Travel on close to a mile and the Couch-Patton Cemetery will be on your right near the top of the hill. It is between the second and third house (closer to the third house). Be care or you'll pass it. There is just a small sign posted on a tree, the cemetery is in the woods (you definitely can't see the markers from the road in srping or summer, but since it is winter time, it might be possible). Now, Street directions are: 1. From Wartrace, take HWY 64 towards Beech Grove 2. Turn right on Clyde Cleaves Road (Fairfield crossroads) 3. Turn right on Straight Creek Road 4. Turn right on Kellertown Road 5. Go about a mile, and the Cemetery will be on your right Now, if you have relatives in the Couch-Patton Cemetery, you probably have them in the Keller Cemetery as well, which is just down the road a bit and to the left. You might plan to visit them both and if you need a guide, let me know. I can meet you at Wartrace and take you there. Kathryn <snip> Could anyone tell me where Couch Cemetery is in Bedford Co., Tn. Thanks Reta <snip> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Could anyone tell me where Couch Cemetery is in Bedford Co., Tn. Thanks Reta

HI, It seems to me that my Maxwell family did that same thing. I will need a couple of days to research this so please respond to me and remind me if don't send something in a couple of days. Kat

Thanks Linda! I knew someone on the list would keep me straight. I've never been there myself, just did a search on the web. FBRoberts --> you may want to get in touch with Linda for better directions. Kathryn <snip> I think she's looking for the Mt. Herman Baptist Church which is between the two Mt. Herman Cemeteries. From the Nazarene Church, she will need to continue on Mt. Herman Road another 2 or 3 miles and turn left on New Hermon Road. Go a very short distance and she will find the Baptist Church. The old cemetery is behind the church and the new cemetery is just ahead. If she will contact me at lac47@bellsouth.net and let me know where she is going to be coming from, I may be able to give her an easier way. Linda <snip> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com