My ancestors came to the Dallas Texas area in the late 1840's/early 1850's. Are there any lists of wagon trains for that time period? The family name is Ivy. Thank you. Lynn Blau lynnraye22@hotmail.com >From: Beverly Peavler <bp@peavler.org> >Reply-To: TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com >To: TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] 1812 Wagon Train - Entire article from BCHQ >Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2002 07:56:56 -0700 > >Thank you so much for doing this. > >At 08:17 PM 3/6/02 -0800, you wrote: >>The Bedford County Historical Quarterly >>Vol. 1, No. 4 >>Published by The Bedford County Historical Society, Shelbyville, >>Tennessee, Winter 1975 >> >>Pages 139-141 >> >>Wagon Train From Tennessee >>-------------------------- >> >>(Summarized from date furnished by Mrs. Woodrow Wilburn, Texarkana, >>Texas) >> >> Mrs. Wilburn's article was first published in ANSEARCIN' NEWS, >>Summer, 1975. Since this article concerned Bedford County, Mrs. >>Wilburn was contacted in an effort to learn more about (1) the source >>of her information and (2) for permission to use parts of the >>article. Mrs. Wilburn graciously responded to the request furnishing >>not only her source but supplementing the original article with >>information of a later date. >> Briefly summarizing, there were several wagon trains which left >>the >>Bell Buckle area from 1811 to 1837. Logs of the trips and diaries of >>some individuals were kept of each trip. Some of these records were >>discovered by Mrs. Wilburn in a most unusual manner and one I >>referred to the ANSEARCIN' NEWS for the account. A portion of the >>first log, covering the trip which left the Bell Buckle area April 8, >>1811 is repeated here. The destination of the wagon train was that >>portion of East Texas which was later to be known as >>Washington-on-the-Brazos. >> >>A Condensed Version of the Log >>------------------------------ >> Captain Baker was the wagon master and had either wagons. Andy >>McCoy was the first scout and Marcus Whitlo was second scout. Henry >>MdDaniel was second in charge, driving the lead wagon. He had two >>wagons and five children in the wagons. Joe Pelphry was Deputy and >>he had one wagon with four children. Jim Elliott had two wagons; >>Robert Grainger Elliot, 1 wagon and 3 minor children; J. F. McDer one >>wagon, four children; Jim Poindexter, one wagon and five children; W. >>W. Smith, one wagon and five children and his brother W. E. Smith >>with one wagon and three children. Homer G. Elliott, Dan Clovis >>Elliott, W. C. Elliott, P. C. Elliott, and LeLand G. Elliott were the >>five grown sons of Robert G. Elliott, who drove supply wagons. >> Bill Walker and his brother Sam Walker, sons of Will (or Mike) >>Walder, drove supply wagons. Sam R. Cooper, Sr. with two wagons and >>five children; Kelly Ross, Sr., one wagon and two children; K. C. >>Spike, Henry Allman, Roy Fergison, O. Lemay each with one wagon with >>no children. S. Roy Walker, one wagon, no children. He was a >>brother to Will and Mike Walker (who were) not on the train. >> Ted Morton and Jack Johnson, not train but each paid for one >>wagon's >>expense. Barney Phipps, Jim Crump, Willis Wright, John Parr, Charles >>Berry, and Thurman Utchman were all guards. Belung Brown and his >>brother Arden, each with a wagon. Arden was later kicked by a mule >>and couldn't work for a long time. Otto Payne and Jim Jones, one >>wagon each. Benny Tubbs, preacher. Dr. Crossweight, the doctor. >> There were 39 men including the doctor and the preacher and there >>were 19 women and 42 children. Ninety were in the train when they >>started from Tennessee but they picked up two wagons on April 20th. >>They had 28 wagons, 116 draft horses and mules, and 30 saddle horses. >> One-hundred dollars was paid by each family and there were 19 or 20 >>families on the train. >> >>Rules of the Wagon Train >>------------------------ >>1. Allow 5 days each 100 miles. Bad days, what you can make, or stay >>in camp if agreed by all. Real good days, and group, makes it easy >>pulling 25 to 30 miles per day, if camp sites come right. >> >>2. Take plenty of guns and ammunition. >> >>3. Recommended -- shave your head -- Indians have no interest in bald >>heads. >> >>4. Do not drink whiskey of alcohol in freezing weather, or you are >>liable to freeze to death. >> >>5. Do not fire rifles, only when absolutely necessary. >> >>6. Do not stay up late - get your sleep. Guards are on duty all >>night. >> >>7. Do not smoke strong pipes and cigars in close places where women >>and children are. >> >>8. Keep you politics and preaching to yourself. Let the preacher do >>the preaching. >> >>9. In case of a runaway of reams to wagons, get down and try to ride >>it out. If you jump, you are liable to get killed, or hurt badly. >>The hose men will pick the team up, maybe not too far off. >> >>10. All people - young married, or not, stay inside the circle of >>wagons in Indian country, or you are liable to loose your scalps. >> >>11. The wagon master will try to pick spots so men and women and >>children can bathe, clean up, and wash clothes, when possible. >> >>12. Be courteous and help others >> >>13. Do not be noisy, even with your musical instruments; only when it >>is safe. >> >>14. When can, we will have recreation and dances. >> >>15. Do your part by all means. Church services will be held when it >>is considered safe form Indians, and other hazardous conditions. >> >> >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Try FREE Yahoo! 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Kathryn, Not sure if I ever thanked you for these Perry burials, but I thought it was better late than never! I sure do appreciate all your hardwork and offers. It's very, very nice of you to do this for us! Thanks again :) Pam Tillman-Goff

FYI; It took me many years but I fainally found the long lost older bro. of the James Drake family. Family tradition had it that when the James Drake and Betsy Holmes Drake came to Ala. prior to 1840 census of Jackson Co. Al. that William M. Drake the eldest son stayed around Bedford (Coffee) Co. and then went to Texas with some other people. I finally found him on the 1860 census of Austin Texas living with the H.D.Blair family. census states he was blind but later census records indicate he became rather prosperous(he was a farmer and had a license to operate a still) and owned a good bit of land. Md. and had 3 ch. by the 1870 census but seems to have died before the 1880 census. The Blairs and walkers were intermarried some way and some of the walkers went to Texas also. The Wagon Train info. is great. Sue in Al.

In a message dated 3/6/02 12:04:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, TNBEDFOR-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Does anyone know if back copies of the Bedford County Historical Quarterlies are in the Argie Cooper Public Library, or better still in Linebaugh in Murfreesboro? Linda >> Hi, Back issues of the quarterlies can be ordered directly from; Bedford County Historical Society. Mrs.George Parker PO box 172 Bell Buckle, TN 37020 Good luck, Betty

Linda, I am a descendent of a Peter Tribble to his son James Tribble b. 1758 in Halifax, Va . died 1809. James married Nancy.............does this fit wtih your Peter? Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Coop" <lac47@bellsouth.net> To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] Bedford County Historical Quarterlies > Nadeen, all that I can tell you is that my mother-in-law descended from > Patrick Henry Tribble (son of Peter Tribble). Contact me direct and I'll > send you what I have. lac47@bellsouth.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nadeen McOsker <nadeen@sofnet.com> > To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:08 AM > Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] Bedford County Historical Quarterlies > > > > I would love to know which line of Tribbles was included in those > clippings > > or the book as I have Tribbles in my family line. > > > > Nadeen nadeen@sofnet.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Linda Coop" <lac47@bellsouth.net> > > To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] Bedford County Historical Quarterlies > > > > > > > Kathryn, thanks for your offer. I just found Bill Woodard's note > > regarding > > > the wagon train that left Bell Buckle interesting and thought I'd like > to > > > look through the old quarterlies. When my mother-in-law was living she > > had > > > an old drug store ledger that someone in her family had pasted newspaper > > > clippings in for many, many years. There was an article about a wagon > > train > > > that left Flat Creek that included some of her Tribbles and some of my > > > Womacks. When we cleaned her house out in 1990 after her death we did > not > > > find the old book and none of her sisters or anyone we have asked know > > > anything about it. I would love to see that article again. There was > so > > > much wonderful info in that book that I'd like to have to post on the > net > > > now. Such a shame that it's lost. Linda > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Kathryn Hopkins <kathopkins@yahoo.com> > > > To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:01 PM > > > Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] Bedford County Historical Quarterlies > > > > > > > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > > > > > Yes, there are copies in the Argie Cooper Public Library in > > > > Shelbyville. I don't know about the one in Murfreesboro. > > > > > > > > If you already know what you are looking for, perhaps I can help, as > > > > I have a set. > > > > > > > > Kathryn > > > > > > > > <snip> > > > > are back copies of the Bedford County Historical Quarterlies are in > > > > the Argie Cooper Public Library, or better still in Linebaugh in > > > > Murfreesboro? Linda > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Nadeen, all that I can tell you is that my mother-in-law descended from Patrick Henry Tribble (son of Peter Tribble). Contact me direct and I'll send you what I have. lac47@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Nadeen McOsker <nadeen@sofnet.com> To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] Bedford County Historical Quarterlies > I would love to know which line of Tribbles was included in those clippings > or the book as I have Tribbles in my family line. > > Nadeen nadeen@sofnet.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Coop" <lac47@bellsouth.net> > To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] Bedford County Historical Quarterlies > > > > Kathryn, thanks for your offer. I just found Bill Woodard's note > regarding > > the wagon train that left Bell Buckle interesting and thought I'd like to > > look through the old quarterlies. When my mother-in-law was living she > had > > an old drug store ledger that someone in her family had pasted newspaper > > clippings in for many, many years. There was an article about a wagon > train > > that left Flat Creek that included some of her Tribbles and some of my > > Womacks. When we cleaned her house out in 1990 after her death we did not > > find the old book and none of her sisters or anyone we have asked know > > anything about it. I would love to see that article again. There was so > > much wonderful info in that book that I'd like to have to post on the net > > now. Such a shame that it's lost. Linda > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kathryn Hopkins <kathopkins@yahoo.com> > > To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] Bedford County Historical Quarterlies > > > > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > > > Yes, there are copies in the Argie Cooper Public Library in > > > Shelbyville. I don't know about the one in Murfreesboro. > > > > > > If you already know what you are looking for, perhaps I can help, as > > > I have a set. > > > > > > Kathryn > > > > > > <snip> > > > are back copies of the Bedford County Historical Quarterlies are in > > > the Argie Cooper Public Library, or better still in Linebaugh in > > > Murfreesboro? Linda > > > <snip> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thank you so much for doing this. At 08:17 PM 3/6/02 -0800, you wrote: >The Bedford County Historical Quarterly >Vol. 1, No. 4 >Published by The Bedford County Historical Society, Shelbyville, >Tennessee, Winter 1975 > >Pages 139-141 > >Wagon Train From Tennessee >-------------------------- > >(Summarized from date furnished by Mrs. Woodrow Wilburn, Texarkana, >Texas) > > Mrs. Wilburn's article was first published in ANSEARCIN' NEWS, >Summer, 1975. Since this article concerned Bedford County, Mrs. >Wilburn was contacted in an effort to learn more about (1) the source >of her information and (2) for permission to use parts of the >article. Mrs. Wilburn graciously responded to the request furnishing >not only her source but supplementing the original article with >information of a later date. > Briefly summarizing, there were several wagon trains which left the >Bell Buckle area from 1811 to 1837. Logs of the trips and diaries of >some individuals were kept of each trip. Some of these records were >discovered by Mrs. Wilburn in a most unusual manner and one I >referred to the ANSEARCIN' NEWS for the account. A portion of the >first log, covering the trip which left the Bell Buckle area April 8, >1811 is repeated here. The destination of the wagon train was that >portion of East Texas which was later to be known as >Washington-on-the-Brazos. > >A Condensed Version of the Log >------------------------------ > Captain Baker was the wagon master and had either wagons. Andy >McCoy was the first scout and Marcus Whitlo was second scout. Henry >MdDaniel was second in charge, driving the lead wagon. He had two >wagons and five children in the wagons. Joe Pelphry was Deputy and >he had one wagon with four children. Jim Elliott had two wagons; >Robert Grainger Elliot, 1 wagon and 3 minor children; J. F. McDer one >wagon, four children; Jim Poindexter, one wagon and five children; W. >W. Smith, one wagon and five children and his brother W. E. Smith >with one wagon and three children. Homer G. Elliott, Dan Clovis >Elliott, W. C. Elliott, P. C. Elliott, and LeLand G. Elliott were the >five grown sons of Robert G. Elliott, who drove supply wagons. > Bill Walker and his brother Sam Walker, sons of Will (or Mike) >Walder, drove supply wagons. Sam R. Cooper, Sr. with two wagons and >five children; Kelly Ross, Sr., one wagon and two children; K. C. >Spike, Henry Allman, Roy Fergison, O. Lemay each with one wagon with >no children. S. Roy Walker, one wagon, no children. He was a >brother to Will and Mike Walker (who were) not on the train. > Ted Morton and Jack Johnson, not train but each paid for one wagon's >expense. Barney Phipps, Jim Crump, Willis Wright, John Parr, Charles >Berry, and Thurman Utchman were all guards. Belung Brown and his >brother Arden, each with a wagon. Arden was later kicked by a mule >and couldn't work for a long time. Otto Payne and Jim Jones, one >wagon each. Benny Tubbs, preacher. Dr. Crossweight, the doctor. > There were 39 men including the doctor and the preacher and there >were 19 women and 42 children. Ninety were in the train when they >started from Tennessee but they picked up two wagons on April 20th. >They had 28 wagons, 116 draft horses and mules, and 30 saddle horses. > One-hundred dollars was paid by each family and there were 19 or 20 >families on the train. > >Rules of the Wagon Train >------------------------ >1. Allow 5 days each 100 miles. Bad days, what you can make, or stay >in camp if agreed by all. Real good days, and group, makes it easy >pulling 25 to 30 miles per day, if camp sites come right. > >2. Take plenty of guns and ammunition. > >3. Recommended -- shave your head -- Indians have no interest in bald >heads. > >4. Do not drink whiskey of alcohol in freezing weather, or you are >liable to freeze to death. > >5. Do not fire rifles, only when absolutely necessary. > >6. Do not stay up late - get your sleep. Guards are on duty all >night. > >7. Do not smoke strong pipes and cigars in close places where women >and children are. > >8. Keep you politics and preaching to yourself. Let the preacher do >the preaching. > >9. In case of a runaway of reams to wagons, get down and try to ride >it out. If you jump, you are liable to get killed, or hurt badly. >The hose men will pick the team up, maybe not too far off. > >10. All people - young married, or not, stay inside the circle of >wagons in Indian country, or you are liable to loose your scalps. > >11. The wagon master will try to pick spots so men and women and >children can bathe, clean up, and wash clothes, when possible. > >12. Be courteous and help others > >13. Do not be noisy, even with your musical instruments; only when it >is safe. > >14. When can, we will have recreation and dances. > >15. Do your part by all means. Church services will be held when it >is considered safe form Indians, and other hazardous conditions. > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! >http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I would love to know which line of Tribbles was included in those clippings or the book as I have Tribbles in my family line. Nadeen nadeen@sofnet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Coop" <lac47@bellsouth.net> To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] Bedford County Historical Quarterlies > Kathryn, thanks for your offer. I just found Bill Woodard's note regarding > the wagon train that left Bell Buckle interesting and thought I'd like to > look through the old quarterlies. When my mother-in-law was living she had > an old drug store ledger that someone in her family had pasted newspaper > clippings in for many, many years. There was an article about a wagon train > that left Flat Creek that included some of her Tribbles and some of my > Womacks. When we cleaned her house out in 1990 after her death we did not > find the old book and none of her sisters or anyone we have asked know > anything about it. I would love to see that article again. There was so > much wonderful info in that book that I'd like to have to post on the net > now. Such a shame that it's lost. Linda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kathryn Hopkins <kathopkins@yahoo.com> > To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] Bedford County Historical Quarterlies > > > > Hi Linda, > > > > Yes, there are copies in the Argie Cooper Public Library in > > Shelbyville. I don't know about the one in Murfreesboro. > > > > If you already know what you are looking for, perhaps I can help, as > > I have a set. > > > > Kathryn > > > > <snip> > > are back copies of the Bedford County Historical Quarterlies are in > > the Argie Cooper Public Library, or better still in Linebaugh in > > Murfreesboro? Linda > > <snip> > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

The Linebaugh Library in Murfreesboro can be found online at http://www.linebaugh.org/ You can inquire there as to whether they have the quarterlies for Bedford County Historical. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Coop" <lac47@bellsouth.net> To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:08 PM Subject: [TNBEDFOR] Bedford County Historical Quarterlies > Does anyone know if back copies of the Bedford County Historical Quarterlies > are in the Argie Cooper Public Library, or better still in Linebaugh in > Murfreesboro? Linda > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

The Bedford County Historical Quarterly Vol. 1, No. 4 Published by The Bedford County Historical Society, Shelbyville, Tennessee, Winter 1975 Pages 139-141 Wagon Train From Tennessee -------------------------- (Summarized from date furnished by Mrs. Woodrow Wilburn, Texarkana, Texas) Mrs. Wilburn's article was first published in ANSEARCIN' NEWS, Summer, 1975. Since this article concerned Bedford County, Mrs. Wilburn was contacted in an effort to learn more about (1) the source of her information and (2) for permission to use parts of the article. Mrs. Wilburn graciously responded to the request furnishing not only her source but supplementing the original article with information of a later date. Briefly summarizing, there were several wagon trains which left the Bell Buckle area from 1811 to 1837. Logs of the trips and diaries of some individuals were kept of each trip. Some of these records were discovered by Mrs. Wilburn in a most unusual manner and one I referred to the ANSEARCIN' NEWS for the account. A portion of the first log, covering the trip which left the Bell Buckle area April 8, 1811 is repeated here. The destination of the wagon train was that portion of East Texas which was later to be known as Washington-on-the-Brazos. A Condensed Version of the Log ------------------------------ Captain Baker was the wagon master and had either wagons. Andy McCoy was the first scout and Marcus Whitlo was second scout. Henry MdDaniel was second in charge, driving the lead wagon. He had two wagons and five children in the wagons. Joe Pelphry was Deputy and he had one wagon with four children. Jim Elliott had two wagons; Robert Grainger Elliot, 1 wagon and 3 minor children; J. F. McDer one wagon, four children; Jim Poindexter, one wagon and five children; W. W. Smith, one wagon and five children and his brother W. E. Smith with one wagon and three children. Homer G. Elliott, Dan Clovis Elliott, W. C. Elliott, P. C. Elliott, and LeLand G. Elliott were the five grown sons of Robert G. Elliott, who drove supply wagons. Bill Walker and his brother Sam Walker, sons of Will (or Mike) Walder, drove supply wagons. Sam R. Cooper, Sr. with two wagons and five children; Kelly Ross, Sr., one wagon and two children; K. C. Spike, Henry Allman, Roy Fergison, O. Lemay each with one wagon with no children. S. Roy Walker, one wagon, no children. He was a brother to Will and Mike Walker (who were) not on the train. Ted Morton and Jack Johnson, not train but each paid for one wagon's expense. Barney Phipps, Jim Crump, Willis Wright, John Parr, Charles Berry, and Thurman Utchman were all guards. Belung Brown and his brother Arden, each with a wagon. Arden was later kicked by a mule and couldn't work for a long time. Otto Payne and Jim Jones, one wagon each. Benny Tubbs, preacher. Dr. Crossweight, the doctor. There were 39 men including the doctor and the preacher and there were 19 women and 42 children. Ninety were in the train when they started from Tennessee but they picked up two wagons on April 20th. They had 28 wagons, 116 draft horses and mules, and 30 saddle horses. One-hundred dollars was paid by each family and there were 19 or 20 families on the train. Rules of the Wagon Train ------------------------ 1. Allow 5 days each 100 miles. Bad days, what you can make, or stay in camp if agreed by all. Real good days, and group, makes it easy pulling 25 to 30 miles per day, if camp sites come right. 2. Take plenty of guns and ammunition. 3. Recommended -- shave your head -- Indians have no interest in bald heads. 4. Do not drink whiskey of alcohol in freezing weather, or you are liable to freeze to death. 5. Do not fire rifles, only when absolutely necessary. 6. Do not stay up late - get your sleep. Guards are on duty all night. 7. Do not smoke strong pipes and cigars in close places where women and children are. 8. Keep you politics and preaching to yourself. Let the preacher do the preaching. 9. In case of a runaway of reams to wagons, get down and try to ride it out. If you jump, you are liable to get killed, or hurt badly. The hose men will pick the team up, maybe not too far off. 10. All people - young married, or not, stay inside the circle of wagons in Indian country, or you are liable to loose your scalps. 11. The wagon master will try to pick spots so men and women and children can bathe, clean up, and wash clothes, when possible. 12. Be courteous and help others 13. Do not be noisy, even with your musical instruments; only when it is safe. 14. When can, we will have recreation and dances. 15. Do your part by all means. Church services will be held when it is considered safe form Indians, and other hazardous conditions. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Kathryn, thanks for your offer. I just found Bill Woodard's note regarding the wagon train that left Bell Buckle interesting and thought I'd like to look through the old quarterlies. When my mother-in-law was living she had an old drug store ledger that someone in her family had pasted newspaper clippings in for many, many years. There was an article about a wagon train that left Flat Creek that included some of her Tribbles and some of my Womacks. When we cleaned her house out in 1990 after her death we did not find the old book and none of her sisters or anyone we have asked know anything about it. I would love to see that article again. There was so much wonderful info in that book that I'd like to have to post on the net now. Such a shame that it's lost. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathryn Hopkins <kathopkins@yahoo.com> To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] Bedford County Historical Quarterlies > Hi Linda, > > Yes, there are copies in the Argie Cooper Public Library in > Shelbyville. I don't know about the one in Murfreesboro. > > If you already know what you are looking for, perhaps I can help, as > I have a set. > > Kathryn > > <snip> > are back copies of the Bedford County Historical Quarterlies are in > the Argie Cooper Public Library, or better still in Linebaugh in > Murfreesboro? Linda > <snip> > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Linda, Yes, there are copies in the Argie Cooper Public Library in Shelbyville. I don't know about the one in Murfreesboro. If you already know what you are looking for, perhaps I can help, as I have a set. Kathryn <snip> are back copies of the Bedford County Historical Quarterlies are in the Argie Cooper Public Library, or better still in Linebaugh in Murfreesboro? Linda <snip> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Does anyone know if back copies of the Bedford County Historical Quarterlies are in the Argie Cooper Public Library, or better still in Linebaugh in Murfreesboro? Linda

LUCY, There is only one VICTORY listed in the Bedford County Cemetery Book and no VICKERY's page 108 Jennings Cemetery Located North of Fairlane Estates NINA BROWN VICTORY 1912 - 1962 However, in the adjoining county, MARSHALL COUNTY, the are VICTORY's and VICKERY's listed Cemetery Records of Marshall County, TN by MARSH page 13 CHAPEL HILL AREA Harris Cemetery (North of the Holtland-Lunn's store and west of Harris Cemetery Road) Alex Victory 1869-1944 and Tilithey D. Victory 1870-1945 Tom M. Victory 1897 -1967 (TM) don't know what that TM means Page 184 BELFAST AREA Round Hill Cemetery (located 1 1/2 miles northeast of Belfast Walter Lee Vickery Sept 5, 1887 Jul 16, 1903 Mary Jane Vickery Dec 20, 1885 June 24, 1921 Thomas A. Vickery April 23, 1863 Nov 12, 1912 Brother Bennie C. Vickery Aug 23, 1889 Feb 23, 1923 Also found this in Bedford County Wills Book page 22 Will Book I page 136 ISAAC VICKRY 4 May 1868 (note, there is no E in this VICKRY) Wife Elizabeth Vickry, gets everything. Children not named. Executor: Thomas W. Bullock Witnesses: T.F. Bullock, J.A. Boyce and Allen Wade. Probated: 9 June 1868 in the 1880 CENSUS of BEDFORD COUNTY BOOK Page 51 Bedford County Census Page 7 District 10 Household or line #57 VICKRY, Elizabeth R. age 57 (widow) GA ____ NC Nancy H age 19 Thomas A. age 17 Bedford County Census Page 6 District 10 Household or line #53 VICKRY, Isaac age 31 Laborer Rebecca 31 (T VA T) Jane 10 Nancy 8 Harda 1 (son) I used to go to church with Mike and Glenda Vickery in the Memphis TN area. It was last year when I last saw them. They were lovely people. Any kin that you know of??? Hope some of this helps you out. I know it can be frustrating. You may want to check out Marshall County on the Gen Web page. Good luck, Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. H." <thehopes@yahoo.com> To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:07 AM Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] Update to List of Bedford Co. Surnames and Researchers > Lucy, have you checked out Native American > registration rolls like the Guion-Miller rolls > for Vickerys? That is a prominent name in those > rolls with a lot of genealogy, sometimes back to > the first white ancestor. Also see the various > Cherokee family histories published over the > years. > > > Hi > > Can you tell me if there are any Vickerys or > > Victorys listed I am still > > trying to find my Vickery line in Bedford Co > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Can you tell me if there are any Vickerys or Victorys listed I am still trying to find my Vickery line in Bedford Co Ann -----Original Message----- From: Looswhl@aol.com <Looswhl@aol.com> To: TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, March 03, 2002 7:43 AM Subject: [TNBEDFOR] Update to List of Bedford Co. Surnames and Researchers >The list has been updated and now contains about 1040 surnames and/or >researchers. The following surnames were added today: > > ALVIS / ALVES > BRYANT, BURTON, BYROM > CAMPBELL, CLAXTON, COLLINS (2) > EAKIN, EWELL > FROST > GARRET / GARRETT, GREGG, GULLETT > LANDIS / LANDISS > MCCLELLAN > PERRY > REAVES / REEVES > SAIN > TODD > WHITE, WILLIAMS (3), WOOD / WOODS, WRAY > >The URL is (just copy and paste this address into your browser): >http://www.tngenweb.org/bedford/surname.htm OR try this hyperlink >(sometimes it works for folks, and sometimes not): <A HREF="http://www.tngenweb.org/bedford/surname.htm">Bedford Co. Surnames and >Researchers</A> > >Good luck to you all, >Lucy Bryant Dunaway Zeier (researching in Bedford Co.: Chambers, Crutcher, >Dixon, Dunaway, Galbreath, Gordon, Hall, King, McKamie/McKamy/McKemey, Rice, >and Sharp) > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Lucy, have you checked out Native American registration rolls like the Guion-Miller rolls for Vickerys? That is a prominent name in those rolls with a lot of genealogy, sometimes back to the first white ancestor. Also see the various Cherokee family histories published over the years. > Hi > Can you tell me if there are any Vickerys or > Victorys listed I am still > trying to find my Vickery line in Bedford Co __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

Looking for info on Thomas Holder who is found in District 3 on the 1836 Tax List. Any info about household members, descendants, etc appreciated. Pat

As requested: 2. Take plenty of guns and ammunition 4. Do not drink whiskey or alcohol in freezing weather, or you are liable to freeze to death. 5. Do not fire rifles, only when absolutely necessary 6. Do not stay up late -- get your sleep. Guards are on duty all night. 7. Do not smoke strong pipes and cigars in close places where women and children are 9. In case of runaway teams to wagons, get down and try and ride it out. If you jump, you are liable to get killed, or hurt badly. The horse men will pick the team up, maybe not too far off. 10. All people -- young, married, or nt, stay inside the circle of wagons in Indian country, or you are liable to lose your scalps 11. The wagon master will try to pick spots so men and women and children can bathe, clean up, and wash clothes when possible. 14. When can, we will have recreation and dances. 15. Do your part by all means. Church services will be held when it is considered safe from Indians, and other hazardous conditions. And some other names: McCoy, Whitlo, Pelphry,McDermitt, Ross, Spikes, Lemay, Phipps, Crump, Wright, Parr, Berry, Utchman, Brown, Norton, Johnson, Payne, Jones, Tubbs (preacher), and Crosswright (doctor). Bill Woodward Chapel Hill, NC

Thanks for an interesting article...Never mind the rules....do you have any more names??? Thelma Phillips

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IhB.2ACI/270 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on my gg grandfather James Gideon Harrison who was born in Oct 1927. He was married to Jemima Rucker and my information indicates they had 7 sons William, Joe C., Joel Green, James Gideon, John Edward, Cornelius J, and Robert).