Fairfield is in the first district. The 23rd district is around the New Herman/Flat Creek area according to my source. John Foster

Shelbyville Gazette - Dec 8, 1932, page 1 Mrs. Kittie Steel Hutton Passes Away ____________________________ Member of Prominent Family Dies fter Short Illness - Burial Tomorrow, Thursday ___________________________ Mrs Kittie Steele Hutton, Wife of Dr. William Hutton, deceased, died at the family residence, Tuesday night after an illness of two weeks. Mrs. Hutton was a member of a prominent Bedford County family and was a life long resident of the count. She was a devoted member of the Methodist Church, a woman whose lovely character was a shining light in her community and she enjoyed the love and esteem of her relatives, and many friends. Funeral services will be held at the family residence Thursday morning at ll o'clock, conducted by her pastor Rev. Elijah Robinson, assisted by Rev. J.R. Parsons, pastor of the Methodist church of Shelbyville. Interment will be in the family cemetery. She is survived by two brothers, Senator Caleb L. Steele, Sr., and Jo D. Steel, County Court Clerk

In addition to Bedford being formed from Rutherford, my understanding is that the southern portion of the county was formed from Indian lands. I don't know whether that included the 23rd or not. Also the missing districts on the 1878 Beers maps are the result of other lands being taken from Bedford to form other counties. Bedford just never renumbered the districts. Jean Vaughn Hendricks cjh1@charter.net

Hi, The 1878 Beers map shows Flat Creek in Dist 23. The town of Flat Creek is just BARELY in Dist 23. In fact on my map it looks like they made a Point so Flat Creek would be in Dist 23. Normandy is Dist 25. Mari had someone scan the 1876 Beers map of Rutherford County and it is on line. We could ask her how it was done. She also listed all the businesses that are on the right hand side of the map. I can take a pic of my map. I think the district numbers will show up.. But the towns are written to small. Distict 1 is Beech Grove and also includes the Northern part of Fairfield District 2 is Wartrace, Haley (The split is the rail road tracks) and Southern Fairfield District 3 is to the East of the Rail Road tracts, and still Wartrace.. it also has part of the West side of Shelbyville District 4 is Bell Buckle and includes Liberty Pike to the Rutherford County Line District 5 is Deason and adjoins Rutherford County to the North. District 6 is about 3 mile North of Shelbyville and runs to almost Bell Buckle (Webb Hwy). It also picks up part of Midland Road in the middle, and goes to Old Nashville Hwy. It also has Sulphur Springs Road District 7 is Shelbyville District 8 is Fall Creek District 9 is Center Grove.. (which I assume is now College Grove?) District 10 is Rover (Which adjoins Dist 10 in Rutherford County) District 11 is Unionville There was not a dist 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 on this map District 18 is Palmetto (also includes Sims Bridge.. and Fishing ford Pike and Borders Coffee County. District 19 is the East side of Richmond and the North West of Branchville? and borders Lincoln County District 20 is Pleasant Grove District 21 is to the East of Shelbyville District 22 is the very Southern tip of Bedford County and has Hawthorne P.O District 23 is the South of Shelbyville and also includes the Town of Flat Creek District 24 is the Southern half of Flat Creek and runs to Moore County District 25 is Normandy P.O. and Borders Coffee County Other interesting facts. Bedford County was established Dec 7, 1807 out of Rutherford County. First explorers were the Alexander Greer Party in 1783 Shelbyville the county seat was established in 1810. I remember reading about where everyone met, but cannot recall off the top of my head Later, Marty

Bedford County, TN Wills by Tim and Helen Marsh: County Court Minute Book, 1852-1855, p 419 Will of Charles L. Byrne, deceased, produced for probate. Duke W. Harrison and Thomas H. Coldwell, witnesses. Will proven and recorded. Edmund Cooper, Executor. Feb. 1855. Wills of this time period no longer exist due to an 1863 courthouse fire. This record of probate in the county court records is all that is left. Earliest County Court Records of Bedford County, TN by Tim and Helen Marsh: Feb 1859. Settlement with Edmund Cooper, estate of Charles S. Byrn. I believe that Harrison, Coldwell, and Cooper were all lawyers. Edmund Cooper did live in the Unionville (not Union City) area and might have been a neighbor. The Capley family has been well researched. If your Byrne family is kin to the Capleys, I think there will be someone who knows. Most of the people who spell their name Byrne in the state of Tennessee live in Robertson and Sumner Counties, north of Nashville. Carolyn In a message dated 11/21/02 5:23:01 PM, Relieruter@aol.com writes: << Anyone on the list researching the COPLEY,BLEDSOE, or BYRN families? I'm trying to find out all the information I can about Charles L. BYRN. He lived in Civil District #11, according to the 1850 Bedford Co. Census. I believe that was in Union City. Charles L. Byrn's neighbors were: #167 his son, Oscar S. W. BYRN, HOH, and family #168 Elizabeth COPLEY, HOH, and family. # 169 Mary Ann COPLEY, HOH, and family # 170 Franklin COPLEY,HOH, and family # 171 David BLEDSOE, HOH, and family # 172 Peter COPLEY, HOH, and family. Sometimes relatives and in-laws lived on adjoining farms. I'm trying to find out if any of these families were related in some way. Maybe that will lead me to more information about Charles L. BYRN. Thanks for a great list. Ann

Anyone on the list researching the COPLEY,BLEDSOE, or BYRN families? I'm trying to find out all the information I can about Charles L. BYRN. He lived in Civil District #11, according to the 1850 Bedford Co. Census. I believe that was in Union City. Charles L. Byrn's neighbors were: #167 his son, Oscar S. W. BYRN, HOH, and family #168 Elizabeth COPLEY, HOH, and family. # 169 Mary Ann COPLEY, HOH, and family # 170 Franklin COPLEY,HOH, and family # 171 David BLEDSOE, HOH, and family # 172 Peter COPLEY, HOH, and family. Sometimes relatives and in-laws lived on adjoining farms. I'm trying to find out if any of these families were related in some way. Maybe that will lead me to more information about Charles L. BYRN. Thanks for a great list. Ann

Hi Marty, Thanks for the update. The 1878 Beers map is already online on the Bedford County site. http://www.tngenweb.org/bedford/maps.htm http://www.tngenweb.org/bedford/1878Beers.jpg Not sure how to zoom in to make it more readable. Kathryn --- MMendez930@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > The 1878 Beers map shows Flat Creek in Dist 23. The town of Flat > Creek is > just BARELY in Dist 23. In fact on my map it looks like they made > a Point so > Flat Creek would be in Dist 23. Normandy is Dist 25. > > Mari had someone scan the 1876 Beers map of Rutherford County and > it is on > line. We could ask her how it was done. She also listed all the > businesses > that are on the right hand side of the map. > > I can take a pic of my map. I think the district numbers will show > up.. But > the towns are written to small. > > Distict 1 is Beech Grove and also includes the Northern part of > Fairfield > District 2 is Wartrace, Haley (The split is the rail road tracks) > and > Southern Fairfield > District 3 is to the East of the Rail Road tracts, and still > Wartrace.. it > also has part of the West side of Shelbyville > District 4 is Bell Buckle and includes Liberty Pike to the > Rutherford County > Line > District 5 is Deason and adjoins Rutherford County to the North. > District 6 is about 3 mile North of Shelbyville and runs to almost > Bell > Buckle (Webb Hwy). It also picks up part of Midland Road in the > middle, and > goes to Old Nashville Hwy. It also has Sulphur Springs Road > District 7 is Shelbyville > District 8 is Fall Creek > District 9 is Center Grove.. (which I assume is now College Grove?) > District 10 is Rover (Which adjoins Dist 10 in Rutherford County) > District 11 is Unionville > There was not a dist 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 on this map > District 18 is Palmetto (also includes Sims Bridge.. and Fishing > ford Pike > and Borders Coffee County. > District 19 is the East side of Richmond and the North West of > Branchville? > and borders Lincoln County > District 20 is Pleasant Grove > District 21 is to the East of Shelbyville > District 22 is the very Southern tip of Bedford County and has > Hawthorne P.O > District 23 is the South of Shelbyville and also includes the Town > of Flat > Creek > District 24 is the Southern half of Flat Creek and runs to Moore > County > District 25 is Normandy P.O. and Borders Coffee County > > Other interesting facts. Bedford County was established Dec 7, > 1807 out of > Rutherford County. > First explorers were the Alexander Greer Party in 1783 > Shelbyville the county seat was established in 1810. I remember > reading > about where everyone met, but cannot recall off the top of my head > > Later, > Marty > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus � Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

I just assumed that Flat Creek and the 23rd were together. All my census have Joshua and his family living in the 23rd. I always thought he lived in the area of Flat Creek. We need a very good source of maps for TN that is easy to use and read. Alicia ----- Original Message ----- From: <Carolyngenealogy@aol.com> To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] Flat Creek, Bedford CO TN > ALL of Bedford County was in Rutherford County, from 1804 when Rutherford was > formed from Davidson, until 1807 when Bedford was formed from Rutherford. > The 23rd district is in southern Bedford County, not at all near the > Rutherford County line. I am not sure Flat Creek is in the 23rd district. I > hope someone who knows more about this will chime in, but I thought Normandy > was in the 23rd district and it seems as though Normandy and Flat Creek are > too far apart to be in the same district. > > Carolyn > > In a message dated 11/21/02 5:30:47 AM, Amom45@www.att.net writes: > > << > > I want to know something about the 23rd district of Bedford CO. I have > > information that my grandfather's grandparents were married in Rutherford CO > > TN 1809. One of their sons is married in 1840 in Bedford CO and settles in > > the 23rd district at Flat Creek. Was this land ever in Rutherford Co? As > > always I am searching for any information about the Coleman, Byrd, Anderson > > and Southall families. ~~AM~~ > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

ALL of Bedford County was in Rutherford County, from 1804 when Rutherford was formed from Davidson, until 1807 when Bedford was formed from Rutherford. The 23rd district is in southern Bedford County, not at all near the Rutherford County line. I am not sure Flat Creek is in the 23rd district. I hope someone who knows more about this will chime in, but I thought Normandy was in the 23rd district and it seems as though Normandy and Flat Creek are too far apart to be in the same district. Carolyn In a message dated 11/21/02 5:30:47 AM, Amom45@www.att.net writes: << I want to know something about the 23rd district of Bedford CO. I have information that my grandfather's grandparents were married in Rutherford CO TN 1809. One of their sons is married in 1840 in Bedford CO and settles in the 23rd district at Flat Creek. Was this land ever in Rutherford Co? As always I am searching for any information about the Coleman, Byrd, Anderson and Southall families. ~~AM~~

Bedford, Lincoln, Moore, Franklin, Marshall and maybe others were Rutherford in early 19th century. John

Was your BYRD ever spelled BIRD? I have a Bird that I know little about except I believe he was a teacher because the letter referred to here http://home.flash.net/~coley/bird.html speaks about teaching. I don't know if Fairfield is in the 23rd district but I don't think it is. Maybe someone else knows for sure. Lila ----- Original Message ----- From: "AM" <Amom45@WWW.ATT.NET> To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:29 AM Subject: [TNBEDFOR] Flat Creek, Bedford CO TN > > I want to know something about the 23rd district of Bedford CO. I have > information that my grandfather's grandparents were married in Rutherford CO > TN 1809. One of their sons is married in 1840 in Bedford CO and settles in > the 23rd district at Flat Creek. Was this land ever in Rutherford Co? As > always I am searching for any information about the Coleman, Byrd, Anderson > and Southall families. ~~AM~~ > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I want to know something about the 23rd district of Bedford CO. I have information that my grandfather's grandparents were married in Rutherford CO TN 1809. One of their sons is married in 1840 in Bedford CO and settles in the 23rd district at Flat Creek. Was this land ever in Rutherford Co? As always I am searching for any information about the Coleman, Byrd, Anderson and Southall families. ~~AM~~

Fairfield is in the 2nd district. Kathryn <snip> I don't know if Fairfield is in the 23rd district but I don't think it is. Maybe someone else knows for sure. Lila <snip> __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus � Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Hi Ann, I did not find any listings in the Bedford County Cemetery book for BYRN or BRYN. Kathryn --- Relieruter@aol.com wrote: > Thanks to Wayne and Kathryn for clearing that up for me. > > The cemetery I'm looking for is in Unionville. > > I am researching the BYRN family of Bedford Co. > > Charles L. BYRN appears in the 1860 census, a farmer aged 67 yrs. > > I am trying to find the BYRN family burial sites. > > Thanks again. > Ann __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus � Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Hi Debi, I found 2 marriages for a Thos. Conwell, don't know if this is the same person or not. Also, looks like your family moved next door to Moore County before the 1880 census (see below). Let me know if you need anything else. There are other records for CONWELL available in Bedford County. Best regards, Kathryn Official Marriages of Bedford County Tennessee 1880-1898 Volume #2 Compiled by Helen C. & Timothy R. Marsh Published: Southern Historical Press, Inc. 1996 Page 165 Bedford County Marriage Records, Volume B, 1867-1876, Page 182 Thos. Conwell & Sidney E. Coleman, 30 AUG 1871, E. G. Montgomery, security, married by J. E. Frost, M.G. Page 228 Bedford County Marriage Records, Volume B, 1867-1876, Page 289 Thos. Conwell & Susan C. Williams, 2 DEC 1875, E. J. Phelps, security, married by J. D. Floyd, M.G. LDS 1880 CD Set: Census Place: Ashby, Moore, Tennessee Source: FHL Film 1255273, National Archives Film T9-1273 Page 500B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Thos CONWELL Self M M W 30 TN Occ: Farmer Fa: TN Mo: TN Susan Kate CONWELL Wife F M W 28 TN Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: TN Emma CONWELL Dau F S W 3 TN Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN Oliver CONWELL Son M S W 2 TN Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN Ellen C. CONWELL Sister F S W 30 TN Occ: Work In House Fa: TN Mo: TN Lucy CONWELL Niece F S W 2 TN Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN Carrol EMRY Other M S W 18 TN Occ: Work On Farm Fa: --- Mo: --- <snip> Information on Thomas Conwell who married Susan Katherine "Kate" Williams. Two of their children that I know are Oliver, born abt.1878 and Emma, born abt. 1877. <snip> __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus � Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

I would love to read the obit for Mrs Kittie Hutton, obit dated 12/8/1932. If you have that info it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: <MMendez930@aol.com> To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:27 AM Subject: Re: [TNBEDFOR] Shelbyville Gazette > Hi Mike, > > I got the entry out of the Times Gazette Newspaper. I started indexing the > obits. I have it on file. It may take me a few days, but I will pull it up > and send a copy of it to you. > > Later, > Marty > > "Where did you get the Gazette reference? > > Both entries are my family, but I didn't know Lee had a son John! Do you > know the subject of the article/entry?" > ________________________ > > The only Russ I am showing is > Shelbyville Gazette > Russ John B. SG - Jan 8, 1931 page 2 Lee H. Russ (father) > Russ Betty (Mrs Robert) 78 SG - July 9, 1931 page 3 Durham > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Shelbyville Gazette - Jan 8, 1931, page 2 John B. Russ Though the kindness of our good friend, Mrs. J.F. Boyd, we have received a clipping for the Omaha Bee of Nebraska, which mentioned a former citizen of our town. The Mr.. Russ spoken of was a brother of the late Mr.. Lee H. Russ of this place and we expect he had something to do with the birth of the Gazette in 1873. Our older citizens may remember him. Here is what the Bee says: " Crofton's only civil war veteran John B. Russ was a member of the confederate army. One of the oldest residents of the northeastern Nebraska. Mr.. Russ. who has passed his 90th birthday, still enjoys good health. He makes his home with his son in law, Frank Holder, Livestock dealer. "Born in Shelbyville, Tennessee., Mr.. Russ in 1862 enlisted as a confederate under Gen N.B. Forrest. On Christmas Eve, 1864 he and several companions became separated form a skirmish party and were taken prisoners. They were interned at Camp Chase, Ohio where they remained until May 14, 1865. After his discharge Mr. Russ returned to Shelbyville and was employed there five years as a printer. "Later he engaged in railroading and in this work traveled through most of Kansas and Texas. He has been a resident of Crofton for a number of years, coming here because of his advanced age. Shelbyville Gazette - July 9, 1931, page 3 Mrs. Betty Russ Mrs. Betty Russ, 78 died at the home of her son-in-law, Mr. Charles Durham, in West Shelbyville, Friday of the infirmities of age, She had been a widow for may years. Her husband, Mr. Robert Russ was a son of Mr. R.C. Russ, a well known newspaper man in Shelbyville many years ago. Funeral service were conducted at the home Saturday morning followed by burial in Willow Mount Cemetery.

Shirley, Thank you! Another twist is that my 4th great grandfather's name was Samuel Taylor Tillman. hum??? Thanks :) Pam Tillman-Goff

Shirley, Thank you! Another twist is that my 4th great grandfather's name was Samuel Taylor Tillman. hum??? Thanks :) Pam Tillman-Goff