that's ok no one understands this old Lady. ( smile) You had on there something about Ansel Levi Carden Jr. I thought there was only one Ansel L. who married Virginia Prosise. they didn't have a child named Ansel Levi Carden Jr. Or did he ?? anyway I don't show him . I didn't know there were so many spellings. I hope I've not confused you more. Phyllis