Thank you Jeremy your a wonder & Carolyn keeps me in line. Here is part of of story & I don't know where it came from but it's old and came by snail mail years ago. On the same page is information of Teh Rev. John Webster, his dau. was my step- g grand'mother so I have that information if someone needs it. John & Millie built their home and a Church at the ? of the Hoskins Hollow Rd. with the Frost bottom Rd. In addition he owned he owned much coal lands including 5,000 acre tract (surveyed in 1834 )on ?lew River. Rev. John was a forceful Preacher but owning the Church building may have inclined him to take certain liberties. In any event he developed the habit of "dram drinking" which may have even improved his delivery but his "dram drinking " developed until he was a habitual user of fire water to the extent that Millie "nagged him constanly " For the full story of how Millie was cured of nagging and the Rev. John may have been cured of his drinking see the " Story of Widrock Mountain and It's People" by this writer. The John Seiber family had a family of at least 11 children in 1850 as follows.(1) Livi 1821, (2) Katherine 1824 (3) Phillip 1828. (4) Clarissa 1831 ( 5) Frederick 1834) (6) Hyram 1835 (7) Malinda 1838 (8) George 1840 (9 ) Mark1840) Twins? (10) Jurdon 1842 & (11) Stephen 1848. The Seiber families made a sizable contribution in the early struggles of the Baptist Churches in Anderson & Roane Co., Has anyone seen the book of Story of Windrock Mountain & it's People ? Phyllis